Planning on doing some heavy duty riding this coming year. Since me and my family have just recently gotten back into riding we are going to have to update our gear. Here in Oklahoma we have big temperature swings from very cold to very hot. Just wanting some opinions on riding suits that might fit that bill. I was thinking of 1 piece suits for simplicity. Not sure if any of them can fit the criteria for staying cool in the summer and being able to layer up when the temps are cold. Also would like to know what the consensus on gloves are. All opinions are greatly appreciated.
Opinions on good riding gear
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From what I understand quality suits like Aerostich or Olympian do an excellent job at wide temp ranges.
Myself I have two suits, one perforated and one solid two piece leather.
BR
Myself I have two suits, one perforated and one solid two piece leather.
BR
Skip the Teknic Chicane textile riding pants... They do not hold up in a crash.
My Right leg got seriuos road rash when the armor turned into packaging peanuts.
The buttox completely disappeared.
My Sidi boots were destroyed and I did get some soft tissue damage and still can not walk correctly without massive pain.
My wife was wearing all Tour Master. Every square inch of her gear looks like it touched the ground and none of it blew out.
Her TourMaster gloves did get a blow out in the seam on the palm and she did get some rash.
She was wearing Bates Lightweight Tactical Boots. They held up much, much better than my Sidi's did.
Leather pants with armor is the way to go. Leather rarely wears through when sliding down the road.
One of my riding buddies who watched me crash bought me a pair of TourMaster leather pants after the crash. They are being altered to fit now.
I lost my TekNic Huricane jacket, but I had several others on the shelf, so all is good there.
I replaced the Sidi with a pair of Teknic Road Race but the angle of the ankle and riding position makes them hard to shift.
I bought the Alpine Stars MX-S boots.
I had Teknic gloves on and the steel studs did their job. The gloves completely saved my hands.
The extra padding on the fingers and the studs with a layer of kevlar really protected my palms.
This crash took place on 11.11.2011... My birthday to remember in the emergency room.
My Right leg got seriuos road rash when the armor turned into packaging peanuts.
The buttox completely disappeared.
My Sidi boots were destroyed and I did get some soft tissue damage and still can not walk correctly without massive pain.
My wife was wearing all Tour Master. Every square inch of her gear looks like it touched the ground and none of it blew out.
Her TourMaster gloves did get a blow out in the seam on the palm and she did get some rash.
She was wearing Bates Lightweight Tactical Boots. They held up much, much better than my Sidi's did.
Leather pants with armor is the way to go. Leather rarely wears through when sliding down the road.
One of my riding buddies who watched me crash bought me a pair of TourMaster leather pants after the crash. They are being altered to fit now.
I lost my TekNic Huricane jacket, but I had several others on the shelf, so all is good there.
I replaced the Sidi with a pair of Teknic Road Race but the angle of the ankle and riding position makes them hard to shift.
I bought the Alpine Stars MX-S boots.
I had Teknic gloves on and the steel studs did their job. The gloves completely saved my hands.
The extra padding on the fingers and the studs with a layer of kevlar really protected my palms.
This crash took place on 11.11.2011... My birthday to remember in the emergency room.
I had the same dilemma living up in Canada. Some days in early spring are below freezing and 35°C (95°F) or hotter in the middle of summer. I ended up just watching a few gear sites - like Motorcyclegear.com and bought some of their clearance stuff over the winter. Ended up with three jackets - Icon leather Motorhead $320, Joe Rocket mesh $90 and Joe Rocket textile $150, two pairs of pants - Icon leather $150 and Joe Rocket textile $125.
Figured this way, I have all the bases covered.
Figured this way, I have all the bases covered.
Originally I looked at the Olympia gear and cast it aside as being too expensive.
Since then, I have talked to a friend that has probably logged more miles than anyone I know.
One of his trips was from Arizona through Nova Scotia and back on only two lane roads. No Interstate roads were used at all.
Anyway, he was a motorcycle gear representative for years and still does a lot of trade shows with his wife.
I called him and he immediately said Olympia without a doubt in his mind.
1. He can afford anything he wants.
2. He has worn leathers as well.
3. He and his wife usually ride coast to coast on 2 lane roads each year and they both love the Olympia gear.
4. His comment, "Pay the price, complain once, buy the cheap stuff, complain every time you use it."
It is still a little pricey for me, but if you can afford it, you most likely won't regret it.
Since then, I have talked to a friend that has probably logged more miles than anyone I know.
One of his trips was from Arizona through Nova Scotia and back on only two lane roads. No Interstate roads were used at all.
Anyway, he was a motorcycle gear representative for years and still does a lot of trade shows with his wife.
I called him and he immediately said Olympia without a doubt in his mind.
1. He can afford anything he wants.
2. He has worn leathers as well.
3. He and his wife usually ride coast to coast on 2 lane roads each year and they both love the Olympia gear.
4. His comment, "Pay the price, complain once, buy the cheap stuff, complain every time you use it."
It is still a little pricey for me, but if you can afford it, you most likely won't regret it.
Was looking at the Aerostich or Motoport but it looks like leather is the way to go. I will have to add Tourmaster to the list.
Another Olympia fan here. My wife and I both have Olympia jackets and pants and like them very much. I bought a used Olympia Phantom one piece suit last year. Really liked it, but it was too big so I resold it. Still looking to replace it.
Spend the money to get good gear. Not only will it protect you better in a crash, but it will last longer and you will not have to replace it as soon. Buy the best you can afford. If you want a one piece suit to ride year round, and Aerostitch is hard to beat. They are a textile suit but very tough and waterproof.
Some good brands for leather gear are Alpinestars, Dianese and Held.
Some good brands for leather gear are Alpinestars, Dianese and Held.
[image: View Post]huntinggunns, on 13 December 2011 - 06:30 PM, said:
Was looking at the Aerostich or Motoport but it looks like leather is the way to go. I will have to add Tourmaster to the list.I wear my Motoport Kevlar Mesh 2-piece suit from 35F to 105F. If it gets colder than that, I like to use a Gerbing electric liner under it as well. It is an expensive suit, but I've been wearing it for almost 3 years now and wouldn't trade it for anything else including a Stich (which I've had in the past but it was too hot in the summer). I have the rain liners (top and bottom) and the thermal liner (top) for the Motoport which gives it a lot of flexibility.
From what I've read, the Kevlar mesh suit has the same abrasion resistance as leather. I saw a jacket that had been slid down the road once and there was hardly any damage done to it. Seeing that made up my mind on buying the suit.
My opinion on gear is that it is good. Especially when used to drive cams. Makes a nice whine sound.
Thanks all. I will add Olympia to the list. Initially it looked like leather was the best bet but the more I read it looks like some of the newer textile stuff is just as good. This past summer here in Oklahoma is a good example of the temerature extremes I was talking about. 100+ for 45 days or more IIRC. Now to just decide which suit to get from these 3 different manufacturers.
I have a Cyclock jacket and Motorport pants. I've had them for over 10 years, and 100,000 miles and both still look like new. I don't believe the Cycloak brand is still available.I did have to replace the hook and loop closures at the cuffs in both the jacket and pants. I wash them in the washing machine on gentle using powered detergent. It is amazing how filthy they get during the season. Imagine the amount of road grime on your car if you did not wash it all year. For that reason I favor Black and Gray colors. For visibility I use a hi vis vest when I need to. The Cyclock jacket is still waterproof (Gortex liner) the Motorpants - not so much. Both are heavy Cordora construction and I don't have any reservations regarding their abriasion resistance. They do get warm. Good from 40F to 80F degrees. Using electric gear I can leave heavy clothing and the liner at home and use the jacket only. Above that I use mesh gear. Today's gear have much better options for soft armor.
I like the Motorport, Firstgear (especially the new TPG), Tourmaster in that order. I have some Joe Rocket gear but don't think the quality is as good. I don't have any experience with Aerostich or Olympia but have heard good things about them. One common complaint with the Aerostich one piece is that it leaks in the crotch during rain. I have a leather jacket but don't use it for serious touring because it does not tolerate prolonged rain as well.
Long winded but in summary
1) Buy the best gear you can afford. It will pay for itself because it will last a long time.
2) Buy winter gear, summer mesh gear and electric gear for the cold days
3) Consider high vis vests for safety. High vis jackets can get dirty and be difficult to get clean if at all.
Good luck
I like the Motorport, Firstgear (especially the new TPG), Tourmaster in that order. I have some Joe Rocket gear but don't think the quality is as good. I don't have any experience with Aerostich or Olympia but have heard good things about them. One common complaint with the Aerostich one piece is that it leaks in the crotch during rain. I have a leather jacket but don't use it for serious touring because it does not tolerate prolonged rain as well.
Long winded but in summary
1) Buy the best gear you can afford. It will pay for itself because it will last a long time.
2) Buy winter gear, summer mesh gear and electric gear for the cold days
3) Consider high vis vests for safety. High vis jackets can get dirty and be difficult to get clean if at all.
Good luck
You are doing the right thing, always get input from those that ride. I respect all of the opinions offered here and know that they really want to help. I you are interested in seeing gear evaluations that are thorough and highly objective, check out webbikeword.com. I've used gear from a lot of different companies, but thankfully, I haven't "tested" it as thoroughly as some have (read: crashed with it). However, I love my gloves from these guys: http://www.highvelocitygear.com/ I have 5 seasons on a pair of gloves I got from them that I wear 3 seasons, and only use a winter glove in March and November. My winter isn't the toughest, but more severe than in Oklahoma, and studs were outlawed in Nebraska, so ice riding is out! :laugh:
Hey Fred...from a fellow okie I know what you speak. My leather joe rocket pro street pants zipped to my leather scorpion jacket are my go to for cool days up to about 75-80 degrees and then just too hot. I use a gerbings jacket liner down to freezing and below if it's dry. For the hot days I downgrade to armored mesh but don't feel nearly as protected as with leather. Wish I could afford a Motorport Kevlar (God they are ugly though) or an Aerostitch. Stitch has a new Roadcrafter Light that may be the ticket.
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A vote for Aerostich here. The original textile riding suit. Made in USA, great company, not cheap, but this isn't an area I'd scrimp on.
(And IIRC, our esteemed CEO has their Transit leather suit.)
(And IIRC, our esteemed CEO has their Transit leather suit.)
[image: View Post]YoshiHNS, on 14 December 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:
My opinion on gear is that it is good. Especially when used to drive cams. Makes a nice whine sound.:-) :-):-)
I've owned a Aerostich Roadcrafter (two piece - zips together - occasionally wear just the jacket for short trips around town) for several years (never crashed it) and found it very comfortable in most weather. Worn it through 30+ temps and 95+ temps. Tends to be warm in the later while going slow. Ventilation is very good when it's hot out. Wind blocking very good when cold. Bought an Aerostich Transit suit this year and it is fantastic. Now I wear the Transit (Goretex backed heavy-duty perforated leather) all summer. Not especially hot in warm weather. Not especially warm in cold weather. Now it's Transit for the summer (very waterproof - does not absorb any water) and the Roadcrafter in the cold weather. Roadcrafter looks geeky - lots of WTF to non-initiated; Transit looks very cool - lots of compliments; and it is a chick magnet ;-) For long-distance riding the Roadcrafter has so many pockets it eliminates need for a backpack. And it's very dry in the rain. (I average 15,000 miles / year). I also have a TourMaster flow-through mesh jacket ($89) for hot in-town riding. All have performed excellently. I've crashed with a mesh jacket only and got roadrash and minor broken bones but core body came through fine. I seldom ride without pants now. Oh wait - make that overpants. My legs are not that good looking. :rolleyes:
Way good advice from the posters. Buy the best that you can afford, it will pay for itself in the long run and you will enjoy your riding more. I like loose fiting clothes but tighter is better in mc clothes in case of a get off. Loose gear will roll up if you have a get off.
Since you live in a climate that is really hot and cold try to get two different suits. Vented leather is good for everything except summer for me. I use textile in summer in Texas and in Texas like climates.
Now, in northern New Mexico I use textile or leather at this time of year with a Firstgear Thermal one piece suit over them. Pricey but warm.
Get a really good rainsuit ! Rain inserts in normal gear will eventually leak and leave you cold.
Buy different gloves for the different seasons, most riders have many different pairs. Motorcycle specific boots are always good but if you use non-mc boots make sure they have a cleated or grippy sole not a smooth leather sole.Your boot will slide when you put your boot down at a stop if the sole is smooth leather( like most cowboy boots.)
Since you live in a climate that is really hot and cold try to get two different suits. Vented leather is good for everything except summer for me. I use textile in summer in Texas and in Texas like climates.
Now, in northern New Mexico I use textile or leather at this time of year with a Firstgear Thermal one piece suit over them. Pricey but warm.
Get a really good rainsuit ! Rain inserts in normal gear will eventually leak and leave you cold.
Buy different gloves for the different seasons, most riders have many different pairs. Motorcycle specific boots are always good but if you use non-mc boots make sure they have a cleated or grippy sole not a smooth leather sole.Your boot will slide when you put your boot down at a stop if the sole is smooth leather( like most cowboy boots.)
...And another Olympia fan. I only have one jacket and one pair of pants and they have to do it all.
I have had my Olympia jacket for 3 years / 30,000 miles, through 110F heat, 35F cold, busy freeway miles, and The Dragon. I've had it longer than I've had any one bike, actually. Just last week in a real dumba$$ move, I broke the zipper pull-tab off the zipper head. I'll go get a new one put on and enjoy this thing for 3 more years...
As far as boots, motorcycle-specific boots are a MUST. Another member here that I know now walks funny and carries titanium in his foot simply because he let a bike fall over gently at a stop - on his hiking boot.
I really like my Alpinestars Ridge Waterproof. Solid black, not too space-cadet-ish, still holding up well after a couple of years and 20,000 miles. I do not ride without them. I've worn them all day at work, and they are passable, but since they are waterproof, they don't breathe all that well - so it will get stifling after 10 hours. They do make a vented version, but I can vouch for the waterproof-ness of mine - they are storm-tested.
I have had my Olympia jacket for 3 years / 30,000 miles, through 110F heat, 35F cold, busy freeway miles, and The Dragon. I've had it longer than I've had any one bike, actually. Just last week in a real dumba$$ move, I broke the zipper pull-tab off the zipper head. I'll go get a new one put on and enjoy this thing for 3 more years...
As far as boots, motorcycle-specific boots are a MUST. Another member here that I know now walks funny and carries titanium in his foot simply because he let a bike fall over gently at a stop - on his hiking boot.
I really like my Alpinestars Ridge Waterproof. Solid black, not too space-cadet-ish, still holding up well after a couple of years and 20,000 miles. I do not ride without them. I've worn them all day at work, and they are passable, but since they are waterproof, they don't breathe all that well - so it will get stifling after 10 hours. They do make a vented version, but I can vouch for the waterproof-ness of mine - they are storm-tested.
For multiple season gear, the Olympia AST and Ranger Pants are a good combination ( I have). The Olympia Phantom suit would be my pick for a one piece textile. Give Tellico Plains Outfitters a shot for pricing. They have treated me great and will answer all questions.
For spirited riding....... I agree leather is the best, but putting a cow over your body in 90+ temperatures is HOT... hahahha
For spirited riding....... I agree leather is the best, but putting a cow over your body in 90+ temperatures is HOT... hahahha
Anyone know anything about Motofast? There is a link to their website on Dustin Apgar's (the guy in the ghillie suit) page. I followed it and there's a lot of gear, but not a lot of info on the 'net about them.
Nothing beats dead cows in a crash. I wear a two piece Dianese roadrace suit when playing and in most reasonable temperatures. When it gets really cold I've got a Joe Rocket Ballistic 5.0 textile suit that I've worn on a 600 mile day in the mid 20's....grip heaters and good gloves (tourmaster).
[image: View Post]huntinggunns, on 13 December 2011 - 06:30 PM, said:
Was looking at the Aerostich or Motoport but it looks like leather is the way to go. I will have to add Tourmaster to the list.Leather, have you looked at the advantages and disadvantages of leather versus textile suits? I like Aerostitch, here in Cincinnati it can get humid and hot during the summer and as long as the bike is moving don't have much of a problem.
Sometimes you don't get what you paid for but I think with a motorcycle suit you do. Have seen so many posts about zippers going bad and so many posts about Aerostich Roadcrafter suits lasting ten plus years that are still in great condition. They have been making Roadcrafter suits for twenty nine years, doesn't that say something!
The only advantage to leather in my opinion is you will come to a stop in a shorter distance with leather, leather bites textile will slide.
I cant say enough about how well my Aerostich gear has performed over the years, 2 one piece Roacrafter suits, with over 100k of miles with them on and crashed in them 6 times if you count the times I went off on my dirt bike too. Twice on the street the Roadcrafters performed well, and not a scratch on me, a few sore muscles but not one bit of road rash. I dont really remember how many times I crashed my xr650r piggy dirbike in the roadcrafter so many times, one once in the mud in front of everybody in Kansas I when my 98 vfr decided it did not like the soft mud of the backroad we were on and I played helecopter off in the grass - felt like I landed on a pillow of grass when I landed on my back protector spinning like a top, just muddy as hell but very much ok.
A couple of times on the piggy I flipped the bike upside down over me trying to go up a steep embankment and landed on my back with the bike on top of me upside down. The tough codura saved me from a nice leg burn with the exhaust ended up on my leg with me pinned under the bike upside down, a buddy pushed the bike off me and it fell down the hill. I got fell down too and got up a little dizzy but kicked the bike back alive and was back to riding!
2 years ago I sold my trusty red and black roadcrafter and bought a transit suit - their water proof leather 2 piece and have almost 30k miles on that now too, its faded a bit but comfy, rode it in cold, downpours, heat, and was knocked off the bike by a guy in a van when he decided I did not need to be on the road anymore and he hit me head on in TN on the way to TN, my old girl 1998 vfr was totaled in that one and well I played superman and landed into some gravel a little beat up - sore and with a pulled groin but the suit performed very well and I walked away to a waiting ambulance to get checked out. I wont buy anything else for touring in - they have stupid advertising and it looks geeky but shoot after all I have been through in my stich suits nothing comes close to the versatility and the protection! I have well over 200k miles logged in a stich since 1999 when I started riding again after a long break and wont wear anything less.
If you going to use it for both road and dirt get a two piece - I was thinking of getting a darrien lite for my dirt rides light weight, water proof and with good armor. I love my transit and it is a bit scratched from that trip to the dirt in TN but it cleaned up good and is so comfy for long rides, I like I can wear the pants most of the day and dont need to pack so many clothes as I did with the roadcrafter. My trusty roadcrafter is in my avatar, and below are pics of me in my 3 stich suits
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=558] More fun days on the bike Album: The Veefalo Uploaded 20 Sep 2011 - 23:19
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=447] Aerostich Transit suit Album: Stuff Uploaded 03 Mar 2010 - 11:27
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=447] Vertigo Mega (wide sizes) Gore-Tex Boots Album: Stuff Uploaded 03 Mar 2010 - 11:27
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=452] All New Gear Transit suit, Sidi Boots, Held Gloves, Nolan Helmet Album: Stuff Uploaded 27 Mar 2010 - 22:44
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[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=397] Me waving at the top of Mt Evans Album: Colorado Day Rides Uploaded 02 Jul 2009 - 07:43
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A couple of times on the piggy I flipped the bike upside down over me trying to go up a steep embankment and landed on my back with the bike on top of me upside down. The tough codura saved me from a nice leg burn with the exhaust ended up on my leg with me pinned under the bike upside down, a buddy pushed the bike off me and it fell down the hill. I got fell down too and got up a little dizzy but kicked the bike back alive and was back to riding!
2 years ago I sold my trusty red and black roadcrafter and bought a transit suit - their water proof leather 2 piece and have almost 30k miles on that now too, its faded a bit but comfy, rode it in cold, downpours, heat, and was knocked off the bike by a guy in a van when he decided I did not need to be on the road anymore and he hit me head on in TN on the way to TN, my old girl 1998 vfr was totaled in that one and well I played superman and landed into some gravel a little beat up - sore and with a pulled groin but the suit performed very well and I walked away to a waiting ambulance to get checked out. I wont buy anything else for touring in - they have stupid advertising and it looks geeky but shoot after all I have been through in my stich suits nothing comes close to the versatility and the protection! I have well over 200k miles logged in a stich since 1999 when I started riding again after a long break and wont wear anything less.
If you going to use it for both road and dirt get a two piece - I was thinking of getting a darrien lite for my dirt rides light weight, water proof and with good armor. I love my transit and it is a bit scratched from that trip to the dirt in TN but it cleaned up good and is so comfy for long rides, I like I can wear the pants most of the day and dont need to pack so many clothes as I did with the roadcrafter. My trusty roadcrafter is in my avatar, and below are pics of me in my 3 stich suits
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=558] More fun days on the bike Album: The Veefalo Uploaded 20 Sep 2011 - 23:19
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=447] Aerostich Transit suit Album: Stuff Uploaded 03 Mar 2010 - 11:27
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=447] Vertigo Mega (wide sizes) Gore-Tex Boots Album: Stuff Uploaded 03 Mar 2010 - 11:27
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=452] All New Gear Transit suit, Sidi Boots, Held Gloves, Nolan Helmet Album: Stuff Uploaded 27 Mar 2010 - 22:44
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=452] All dressed up an no bike to ride Album: Stuff Uploaded 31 Mar 2010 - 02:41
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=397] Me waving at the top of Mt Evans Album: Colorado Day Rides Uploaded 02 Jul 2009 - 07:43
[image: index.php?app=gallery&module=images§ion=img_ctrl&img=329] My Turn Album: 2008 Kootenay Hootenanny Uploaded 31 Aug 2008 - 15:25
Everyone has the favorite gear, many here seem to get lot's of use out of it unlike some other forums...
A friend I ride with has an Aerostitch, actually couple of them, Darien and Roadcrafter, both at least decade old and thousands of miles ridden, no complaints
I'm a cheap bastard, many times thought about it but never pulled the trigger on the 'Stitch, have tried many different jacket/pant/rain gear combinations till I decided that one piece wonder-suit should be a better cold/wet protection so I picked up a Tourmaster Centurion couple month ago just on time for the annual trip down to PA. It seems to rain every year and every year I was cold and sick for few days after, but not this time!
We left with temps in the 20's, no heated gear, just a base layer shirt with tee-shirt and a Polar fleece under the Centurion suit, no thermal liner, forecast was for warmer day and I didn't want to mess with removable liner. It was comfortable ride, I'm no polar bear and like to be warm, and only my face and fingers were cold, but core stayed warm, I recon with a thermal liner I could survive temperatures in the teens, but that will require new pair of gloves and a snowmobile helmet.
On the way back couple days later temperature hit 80F and when we stopped in traffic on I-84 I got quite hot, but for most of the trip I was very comfortable, same suit with only Polar fleece removed and all of nearly two dozen the vents open, they REALLY work well!
Month later I lowsided wearing the suit, one zipper got damaged and stitching on the knee came apart, but I am unhurt and suit is still water and windproof as I tested last week when we went exploring local dirt roads and I dove in to a mud hole.
From all the gear that I own this is so far best bang for the buck!
A friend I ride with has an Aerostitch, actually couple of them, Darien and Roadcrafter, both at least decade old and thousands of miles ridden, no complaints
I'm a cheap bastard, many times thought about it but never pulled the trigger on the 'Stitch, have tried many different jacket/pant/rain gear combinations till I decided that one piece wonder-suit should be a better cold/wet protection so I picked up a Tourmaster Centurion couple month ago just on time for the annual trip down to PA. It seems to rain every year and every year I was cold and sick for few days after, but not this time!
We left with temps in the 20's, no heated gear, just a base layer shirt with tee-shirt and a Polar fleece under the Centurion suit, no thermal liner, forecast was for warmer day and I didn't want to mess with removable liner. It was comfortable ride, I'm no polar bear and like to be warm, and only my face and fingers were cold, but core stayed warm, I recon with a thermal liner I could survive temperatures in the teens, but that will require new pair of gloves and a snowmobile helmet.
On the way back couple days later temperature hit 80F and when we stopped in traffic on I-84 I got quite hot, but for most of the trip I was very comfortable, same suit with only Polar fleece removed and all of nearly two dozen the vents open, they REALLY work well!
Month later I lowsided wearing the suit, one zipper got damaged and stitching on the knee came apart, but I am unhurt and suit is still water and windproof as I tested last week when we went exploring local dirt roads and I dove in to a mud hole.
From all the gear that I own this is so far best bang for the buck!
I'll second what others have said about Aerostich. I like their stuff. My main suit right now ( last 14 months ) is Firstgear TPG and it is doing very well. It fits me loose enough to layer underneath and has proven to be 100% waterproof. (My Aerostich Darien is also) All of them are a little warm when ambiant gets above 80 but I can ride in 40°, or hard rain, and stay dry and comfortable. I also like that the Firstgear has a ton of waterproof pockets, something my older Darien does not have.
Anybody have any feedback on the Firstgear stuff? I took my wife down to get an idea of what type and size that she would like and it looks like we are going to have to have her stuff altered. Firstgear is located in Ft. Worth so is is only a couple of hours from here. It would make it easier on us to let her try on some of their stuff and get as close as we can and then have it altered from there. Are there any companies that do the alterations at the factory?
If you go to the Aerostitch factory in Minnesota you save 10% I think. Kind of a cold trip this time of year...LOL!
Thanks for all the replies. I am kind of leaning towards the Firstgear stuff. Just wanted to see how many others have used it and what their opinions are.
Little late to the party, but you might try British Motorcycle Gear -- http://www.britishmo...r.com/index.asp
I picked up their Adventure Jacket and Pants a couple months ago. Haven't gotten into summer weather yet, but have great hopes for this gear, when the temperature rises. Wear it now for some fairly vigorous off-roading and it's pretty comfortable with the vents open. Dakar-like gear, so it's built for extremes.
I picked up their Adventure Jacket and Pants a couple months ago. Haven't gotten into summer weather yet, but have great hopes for this gear, when the temperature rises. Wear it now for some fairly vigorous off-roading and it's pretty comfortable with the vents open. Dakar-like gear, so it's built for extremes.
And, one more thing. Just picked up a pair of Held Air Stream gloves. A little pricey, but seem like they'll be pretty good in the heat, when it comes. Nice protection and ventilation features. My favorite gloves over the year have been Helds. Usually wore them way past their intended lives (which were long), because they were so comfy -- like an old pair of jeans.
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