VFR's (any gen.) run significantly better and make noticeably more butt dyno power on gasoline compared to "ethanol + gasoline" that we are mostly forced to buy.
I've also found, for years, that Exxon ethanol + gasoline runs significantly better than any other brand of "ethanol + gasoline" and I know, it all comes from the same bulk tank. Nevertheless.......
I can buy gasoline where I live and find it when riding away from home now and then. When I find it, I use it.
Ethanol in gasoline is the biggest welfare program ever created by the feds. IMO. Vote.
For what it's worth.
mpgs dropped 20% when going from pure gas to 10% ethanol on the 4th gen. Not sure about power increase.
I live near a lot of rivers (with boaters), so thankfully, pure gas is easy to find.
I wish pure gas were available here, but it's not.
Non-ethanol gas costs significantly more than the E10 around here. As much as $1.00/gal. more. That would cancel any mileage sacrificed for the E10.
My first fifth gen went 105,000 mi before a deer KIA on E10 with no apparent effect on the machine.
Non-ethanol gas costs significantly more than the E10 around here. As much as $1.00/gal. more. That would cancel any mileage sacrificed for the E10.
My first fifth gen went 105,000 mi before a deer KIA on E10 with no apparent effect on the machine.
I doubt if you care, fast MaxSwell (think a few years ago) :goofy: , but I don't really care what unpolluted gasoline costs when I'm filling up a 5.6 gallon tank on a vehicle meant, to me, for fun only. I could care less about mpg on my VFR but I do care that it runs better with more power, perceived or real. I have a Honda car that gets about the same mileage on the highway as my VFR (Interceptor?) with much more horsepower FWIW.
I believe there is a member or two on here in the petroleum industry who can confirm that it is actually more expensive to produce E10 from the refinery than pure gas.
I have a chain of local gas stations in my area that carries 91 pure gas. Cost is about $.60 more per gallon, pretty much the same as e10 premium everywhere else. Love it.
Here's some help . . . The website below provides locations in North America where zero ethanol fuel is available. Prices for it are all over the place. A local Unocal has regular E-10 for $2.05. Their non-ethanol is $4.65!! :ohmy: Fortunately there's another station about an additional 5 miles away where it's about $3.35.
http://www.pure-gas.org/
Scroll to the bottom and click on a state or province - the list is by city.
E-15 is starting to show up in very limited places and is awaiting approval in markets such as California. There are problems with it's blending, dispensing and storage. These kinds of steps will help the EPA ensure that older vehicles are eliminated from the road. Make it damaging or cost prohibitive to retrofit them, and to the scrap yard they go. :mad:
https://en.wikipedia...e_United_States
Interesting thread - looking forward to more responses.
Our local Quiktrip's serve ethanol-free premium, currently for $2.05 a gallon. My research shows that with e10, I get ~10% drop in fuel economy, and while math isn't my best subject, it tells me that the corn squeezin's we're putting in the tanks might as well be water or air. If my bike ran as well or as far on alcohol, I'd be all for it, but all that corn used to fill a hole in my tank but basically zero performance in return? I don't see a benefit.
Times are not bad for me now, so I pull up to the ethanol-free tanks at every opportunity for all my vehicles - mostly on principle, and on my VFR because my goal is close to a 200 mile range, which I *sometimes* get e-free, but *never* get with ethanol.
I'm a Kansas boy, but wish our farmers would stick to growing food, as well as our finding other ways to power our toys - I'm liking the trends on electric bikes, BTW...