Juggernaut72, Apr 3 2005, 02:08 PMHello all... I'm new around here.
I have been riding liter bikes (last year was an 04 R1) but this year I am looking for something a little more laid back in the ergos.
If I get a VFR am I going to be disappointed? I know the power diff on paper... but what about real world butt dynos?
Thanks!
:wheel:
Define "disappointed". This is all so relative. It depends upon what gets you off. I, for one, always preferred Bailey Quarters over Jennifer Marlowe. :thumbsup:
sailcycle, Apr 3 2005, 02:30 PMDefine "disappointed". This is all so relative. It depends upon what gets you off. I, for one, always preferred Bailey Quarters over Jennifer Marlowe. :thumbsup:
Why ? Less 50 hp, + 100 lbs ! I had both, 02 VFR and 04 CBR, there is simply no comparison and wished I was riding the VFR that day in July. Get a CBR, risers, rearsets, different screen, etc... and you're set. I plan to.
Butt dyno ? I couldn't believe the CBR/R1/10R/GSX are legal. They don't even need 6 speeds, 2 would do, fast and not-fast. Better get one of the above while we still can get them.
HS, that makes 2 now I believe, this and the pot holder thing ? I can't remember exactly but Boo Boo will. Free tee-shirts will fix it for you Brother :)
To me the VFR only makes because of ABS and linked brakes, otherwise I'm with ScootR, get a lightly modified open class, or even the new middleweight Kawasaki.
BOBINOTTAWA, Apr 3 2005, 08:55 PMHeck, get the VFR. All those great reviews for years, haven't been a lie.
True enough but as of the last few years it's gained weight and complexity (VTEC, Catalytics, etc) for no real advantage (ABS and linked brakes excluded).
The nice thing 'bout a 6th gen., is it could be 50cc, the chicks still dig it. RED even looks faster! LOL.
Figure 'bout 20 more ponies would put it in the "scary" zone. Gonna dyno mine in a few weeks, (stock), to get a base line. once I do my mods, (fall), I'll let ya know what I get. LOL.
If all your buds ride 100hp bikes, you will never notice the difference. I find myself going way to fast on the blade, but the VFR can trick you into going fast also. Smooth power is fun, top speed has no place on the streets. I will be going back to a VFR one of these days due to the comfort. I am buying a dirtbike to take care of my need for a rush, plus there is no officer Banks to deal with in the dirt. Tickets suck, (don't ask).
Juggernaut72, Apr 3 2005, 09:08 PMHello all... I'm new around here.
I have been riding liter bikes (last year was an 04 R1) but this year I am looking for something a little more laid back in the ergos.
If I get a VFR am I going to be disappointed? I know the power diff on paper... but what about real world butt dynos?
Thanks!
:wheel:
The VFR is great do-it-all type bike for the street. But for me having owned older big inline fours (FJ1200), the VFR falls short on giddy up on the highway. When you want to get by someone in due haste on the viffer you must downshift and wack it open. With the FJ all you had to do was roll on the throttle and you were moving on. Personally I think the VFR is one of the most refined bikes out there, but in no way is it going to catapult you like a R1. There are several big sport tourers out there that will give you big umph with refined sportbike-like qualities. Just to name a few, FJ1300, Kawi 1200zzr, CBR XX, Triumph ST, and the newly anticipated '06 VFR with hopefully more displacement. Now having said all that, make no mistake, it would take alot to get me consider another ride to replace my viffer. B)
After owning a Busa I found the Viffer to be a lot less power, but having not used that power I didnt need it anyway. I mean how often do you ride faster than 120mph?? Its got enough is all I got to say to keep up with just about anything in the twisties, and its comfy, plenty of fuel capacity, milage is decent, sounds awsome, easy to work on (well mine anyway).
I rode a Superhawk (I know, not an open class king candidate but technically a liter-bike) for 5 years and often during that time rode an '01 R1. The low RPM torque on the Superhawk was nice but I don't really think it was that much faster than my VFR.
The R1 had Sh*t loads of power everywhere, had amazing handling, and was obviously way faster than the S'hawk or VFR. But, I think I had less fun riding the R1. It's so easy to go fast on it, it almost becomes mundane. It's almost like the bike's abilities were so far beyond mine that nothing was a challenge.
I always had more fun flogging my S'hawk to keep up with my buddy on his R1.
For me, I think there is something to the old saying, "It's more fun to a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."
i'm with h.s. on this one... the sound makes it all worth while! i try to stay off my roommate's r1... don't want to get corrupted by the power! cuz if i ride it enough, i will NEED liter bike power. but then at 150 lbs after a steak dinner, the vfr has plenty of power for me ;) yes, that v4 makes it all worthwhile!
superfuzz, Apr 3 2005, 08:44 PMI rode a Superhawk (I know, not an open class king candidate but technically a liter-bike) for 5 years and often during that time rode an '01 R1. The low RPM torque on the Superhawk was nice but I don't really think it was that much faster than my VFR.
The R1 had Sh*t loads of power everywhere, had amazing handling, and was obviously way faster than the S'hawk or VFR. But, I think I had less fun riding the R1. It's so easy to go fast on it, it almost becomes mundane. It's almost like the bike's abilities were so far beyond mine that nothing was a challenge.
I always had more fun flogging my S'hawk to keep up with my buddy on his R1.
For me, I think there is something to the old saying, "It's more fun to a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."
A buddy sold his RC51 and bought a VFR for that same reason. I borrowed it for a day and immediately saw what he was talking about. It was just too easy to go too fast. Slow speeds were tortuous on such a capable bike. He needed some bike-induced limitations. As has been said an nauseum in so many other threads, the VFR will keep up with anything at sane street speeds. :wheel:
I agree, being overly harsh as I rode with some CBR's today and miss mine bad. I'll never sell the VFR. This biggest thing, HS is right, not the power but the weight. The only way you can appreciate that is to ride a liter RR or even a 600 Supersport. I'm am in fact waiting on the 06 VFR to decide. 1KRR or next gen VFR. Weight, better suspension, a little more power would be nice, say 130ish, V5 yea baby, sound, looks, and most of all price ! I won't buy a high dollar VFR as I know what a CBR feels like, rides like, and costs. Ulewz is correct, too much power and tickets. A lot of the guys I ride with now on their CBR's are slow. Maybe that's smart but you have to wonder why even have one ? That keeps me thinking about the 600RR, cheaper, ligher, less insurance, etc...
If Honda came out with a CBR750RR I would buy it now, no brainer. I think the GSX750R might be THE perfect street bike. I don't need or want saddle bags or 2-up, my wife rides the Magna or could ride the VFR. Too dangerous and no fun, too much weight. I don't long distance either, that's what cars are for.
Don't need or want a 1200cc V5 VFR either. A 1000cc ~420 lb with 6 way suspension, ABS, linked maybe, would be great. Gotta be a vee motor and have really cool underseat pipes, 5 !
Juggernaut72, Apr 3 2005, 02:08 PMHello all... I'm new around here.
I have been riding liter bikes (last year was an 04 R1) but this year I am looking for something a little more laid back in the ergos.
If I get a VFR am I going to be disappointed? I know the power diff on paper... but what about real world butt dynos?
Thanks!
:wheel:
How big of a guy are you? I'm 6'2" 240 lbs and I can ride a VFR all day long. I rode an Aprilia Mille for about 1/2 hour last fall and was cramped so bad I almost couldn't shift it. If you're looking for a sporty tourer, then the VFR is great, and in my humble opinion, mich sexier than the VStrom, FJR, STs. If you simply want to race around and get in trouble, then the 1Ks are for you. You may want to decide based on your riding style and plans.
I rode an 05 gsxr 750 on sat. I put 2 miles on the highway not exceeding 7 grand. I'm not very big and found the suspension very stiff. It doesn't have the intake snarl a gsxr1000 has. But, as was stated, it may be the perfect compromise. It'll run almost 170, it has 129 horse which is more than enough to be a hooligan, it's light, the only real down side besides ergos is that it has titanium valves. They don't last like stainless. There's nothing in the Suzi service manual about periodic replacement but we've found out on racecars that they have a definate life span.
I went riding my VFR today with some others who were on litrebikes, and in the twisty bits I was able to keep up with their pace. I think I surprised a couple of them! Obviously, they could pull away on the straights when they wanted to. If you can live with giving up some horsepower, the VFR is a very satisfying ride. The handling is excellent and the ergos are very good........much more comfortable than the open class litrebikes. The bike is very refined and the V4 engine is a joy. To me the only downside is the VTEC valve adjustment at every 16,000 miles. It is a pain to perform, or costly to have someone else do for you. For me having something a bit different than every two wheel hot rod you see is also a positve.
I just had an R1 until a couple of months ago, and bought a VFR yesterday, and so far I love it. It's obviously not as fast as the liter bike, but it's no slouch. I bet it will get really close to 600 in-line fours. The handling is surprisingly good too.
sooner02r1, Apr 4 2005, 05:14 AMI just had an R1 until a couple of months ago, and bought a VFR yesterday, and so far I love it. It's obviously not as fast as the liter bike, but it's no slouch. I bet it will get really close to 600 in-line fours. The handling is surprisingly good too.
R1, a couple of months ago??? That's not even enough time to bed the brakes in! Can we ask what happened to that awesome bike? :blink:
As stated by many the VFR is about balance, distinctive sound (ever hear one with a Staintune w/out baffle, Micron, Laser, or Remus if not look up sound clips), unparalled comfort, awesome handling, and great looks (we all love that single swing arm). Not to mention classy design of the instruments, taillights, blinkers, etc. No, it is never scary fast to an experienced rider. But it will power wheelie in first (and second gear with 15T sprocket and a pipe) if you are into that sort of thang.
Beck, Apr 4 2005, 02:42 AMR1, a couple of months ago??? That's not even enough time to bed the brakes in! Can we ask what happened to that awesome bike? :blink:
Beck 95 VFR
Stolen. I unfortunately live in the ghetto right now being in college and only have a carport to park under. Left it unchained for 15 minutes to give a friend a ride home at 1 in the morning, and when I came back it was gone. Progressive insurance HOOKED ME UP though, but premiums went up after :(.
Beck, Apr 4 2005, 02:42 AMR1, a couple of months ago??? That's not even enough time to bed the brakes in! Can we ask what happened to that awesome bike? :blink:
Beck 95 VFR
Stolen. I unfortunately live in the ghetto right now being in college and only have a carport to park under. Left it unchained for 15 minutes to give a friend a ride home at 1 in the morning, and when I came back it was gone. Progressive insurance HOOKED ME UP though, but premiums went up after :(.
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