Viffercrab's Chinese Fairings Build Thread

In the 'I can't leave well enough alone' department, I'm pulling the trigger on a set of the newer ABS injected Chinese fairings. I've decided on using the seller named Auctmarts, which from what I can tell, is the lesser of all of evils when you read anything about these aftermarket kits. Seems all of the horrible experiences with Chinese fairings, are from years ago before the industry started using more modern methods of plastic molding. So, with the relatively low entrance fee, I'm gonna give it a shot. My 2002 only has ~9000 miles on it, but I'm the third owner and somewhere along it's history, things have toppled into it. So, I can either roll my eyes at it, when the nicks and scratches catch my eye every time I ride it, or do something about it. I'm going with a total color change, from red, to a white/black theme incorporating a little bit of the red back into it. Wifey doesn't know it yet, but my inspiration is the colors of the flag of her home country. I figure when she yells at me for spending more money on this thing, I throw that little tidbit at her, and BOOM. That'll shut her up... :)

Here's a before picture, which I've posted recently. Will keep updating throughout the process. I'm working with the seller now, to finalize paint details before I send money. Timeline and review to follow...

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And because I know someone is gonna ask, here's a pic of wifey with the Viffer

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Extra credit goes to anyone that can tell me her home country. :)

Canada?

You are a double lucky man !! And good luck .

motormike

Canada?

Not a bad guess. Canada is just Red and White I think?

Switchblade

You are a double lucky man !! And good luck .

Thanks and thanks. ;)

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"I figure when she yells at me for spending more money on this thing, I throw that little tidbit at her, and BOOM. That'll shut her up... :)"

Sure it will. Can't wait to see the fairings installed!

Italia.

Red White Green. Ciao. :lurk:

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Extra credit goes to anyone that can tell me her home country. :)

Hard to tell in the description and the pic of your lovely wife, but I'm going to guess Egypt or Syria, leaning towards Syria.

I missed the black in the opening post.

Well it seems obvious to me... She's from the land of HOT!

motormike

I missed the black in the opening post.

It was greyed out. Err, black and white out. :wink:

Wait until she finds out you call her 'wifey'... THEN you will hear her scream..

My vote is Sweden.

Getting some great reviews

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=auctmarts+fairings+review

the flag is obviously a checkered flag..... youve won the race buddy!!!

Lint

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Extra credit goes to anyone that can tell me her home country. :)

Hard to tell in the description and the pic of your lovely wife, but I'm going to guess Egypt or Syria, leaning towards Syria.

Not bad, very first time I've heard those for guesses though. The black/red/white flag is pointing you there I suppose...

wagzhp

Well it seems obvious to me... She's from the land of HOT!

Ha. Indeed...

Dutchy

Wait until she finds out you call her 'wifey'... THEN you will hear her scream..

My vote is Sweden.

Meh, she'll find something to scream about, regardless. This is a WOMAN we're talking about after all. ;)

rescue

Getting some great reviews

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=auctmarts+fairings+review

the flag is obviously a checkered flag..... youve won the race buddy!!!

That is one in depth review. Holy crap... Gonna go read the whole thing now.

Okay, so for the nationality guesses... take her country's flag out of it. Where does she look like she's from? In our 18 years together, and hundreds of guesses, only ONE person has ever gotten it right on the first try.

Here's another pic. Good luck.

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Ay Caramba !!! ^^^^

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^^^^ HA. That's a lot of flags to go through... At first glance, I didn't see hers. :huh:

Back to the motorcycle thingy...

Not sure who's bike this is, but I think I'm leaning towards this overall design, but with slightly different color theme.

1. All white parts in this pic would stay WHITE

2. All striping would be same thickness, but be solid RED

3. All black parts would stay black

4. VFR and Interceptor logos would be RED, to match striping

5. Honda Wing and lower HONDA logos would be WHITE

6. Rear cowl would carry RED/WHITE/BLACK theme from tank across it

7. Wheels would change to WHITE

8. Mirrors would remain black and front windscreen would be smoked.

9. Bike already has Carbon Fiber exhaust, and I love the thought of that against the white rear plastic.

10 Already put Sargent seat on it, which looks kinda like carbon fiber and has red piping between pilot and pillion seats. Cowl would be there, but piping would still be visible.

11. Not sure on color of bolt kit. I think I like RED since there's such little red in my design, but then again, not sure if I want red dots, peppering all of the fairings. Might just have each bolt match it's colored fairing. I suck so bad at picturing this stuff...

Something like this, but with minor changes I stated above.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Do a schema like the RWB edition, but make all blue parts black, and change wheels to white. Easy peasy....

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VifferCrab

Lint

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Extra credit goes to anyone that can tell me her home country. :)

Hard to tell in the description and the pic of your lovely wife, but I'm going to guess Egypt or Syria, leaning towards Syria.

Not bad, very first time I've heard those for guesses though. The black/red/white flag is pointing you there I suppose...

wagzhp

Well it seems obvious to me... She's from the land of HOT!

Ha. Indeed...

Dutchy

Wait until she finds out you call her 'wifey'... THEN you will hear her scream..

My vote is Sweden.

Meh, she'll find something to scream about, regardless. This is a WOMAN we're talking about after all. ;)

rescue

Getting some great reviews

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=auctmarts+fairings+review

the flag is obviously a checkered flag..... youve won the race buddy!!!

That is one in depth review. Holy crap... Gonna go read the whole thing now.

Okay, so for the nationality guesses... take her country's flag out of it. Where does she look like she's from? In our 18 years together, and hundreds of guesses, only ONE person has ever gotten it right on the first try.

Here's another pic. Good luck.

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Heaven. She's from heaven... :goofy:

For country of origin, I'm going with Trinidad and Tobago.

Otherwise I'd have to agree with lint...

glassmaker

For country of origin, I'm going with Trinidad and Tobago.

Otherwise I'd have to agree with lint...

BOOM. She is indeed a Trini...

Finalizing details with the seller. Payment to be made tonight or tomorrow, then the clock starts. Will update.

I'll keep updating this post with timeline and experience.

So far, communication is decent. All emails are replied to within 24 hours but I've learned to only ask 1 succinct question per correspondence. They seem to have a problem when one email asks multiple things. It slows everything down a bit, but they do reply.

Also, after telling them I need to order the tank cover, which is additional for this particular kit, they sent me a paypal invoice without the additional charge for it. Then I received another email asking if I needed the tank cover. I told them no less than 3 times that I did in previous emails, so we'll see what happens. They also sent me duplicate invoices through PayPal. I cancelled one and paid one, which still didn't include the tank cover. Again, I stated I needed it in the PayPal transaction notes.

I also noted I'd like a custom paint job done. Their response is to pay first, then talk details. It's a bit of leap of faith, but I've read reviews stating similar protocol, so fingers crossed.

Payment made 10:30 PM EST on Aug 6th 2015.

Kit includes all plastics, including cowl, custom painted to anything I like. Free windscreen, bolt kit, and heat shielding for $399 shipped. Custom painted tank cover is another $80 shipped. I've found the same kit from other sellers for $50 less, but the small premium is worth peace of mind for their history of stellar reviews and 100% fitment guarantee and shipment damage guarantee.

Anyways, here we go. Clock is ticking...


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:cheerleader: :cheerleader:

Gonna like following your thread as I have on several occasion almost purchase one of these kits.

Thanks for the future info.

I'll be very interested in your opinion of the bodywork once you receive and mount it. After center-punching a large deer at high speed recently, I'm in the market for some new plastic too. Unfortunately, from what I've read, it seems that the 6th gen bikes are the ones where the Chinese started injection molding the fairings. All the 5th gen Chinese fairings I've seen are compression molded, which appears to be the type to generate the most fitment and quality complaints, by far. Regardless, I'm still very interested in hearing about your new plastic, once it's received.

Following this for sure. I want to do a track day at some point on my '07, and the RWB fairings are way too precious to risk tearing up if I wreck. If your experience with the custom paint scheme is good, maybe I'll see if they can paint a set to match the ambulances I work on...

I have a full set of injection molded Chinese bodywork at my house right now. So far everything looks identical to factory. Have a tank cover also, paint and finish on it is not as good as the rest.

Will report back with progress.

Switchblade

:cheerleader: :cheerleader:

Gonna like following your thread as I have on several occasion almost purchase one of these kits.

Thanks for the future info.

No problem. The forum has already helped me, it's my turn.

glassmaker

I'll be very interested in your opinion of the bodywork once you receive and mount it. After center-punching a large deer at high speed recently, I'm in the market for some new plastic too. Unfortunately, from what I've read, it seems that the 6th gen bikes are the ones where the Chinese started injection molding the fairings. All the 5th gen Chinese fairings I've seen are compression molded, which appears to be the type to generate the most fitment and quality complaints, by far. Regardless, I'm still very interested in hearing about your new plastic, once it's received.

As you've realized, and so did I, whatever you do, stay away from the compression molded stuff. That's the genesis of all the evil in the world, if you believe the reviews you read about it. The company I'm going with, does indeed have an ABS injected kit for the 5th gens. You pick it, and tell them the color schema you want. Looks to be a tiny bit pricier. Maybe more parts? Dunno...

Motographer

Following this for sure. I want to do a track day at some point on my '07, and the RWB fairings are way too precious to risk tearing up if I wreck. If your experience with the custom paint scheme is good, maybe I'll see if they can paint a set to match the ambulances I work on...

They have a RWB kit readily available, although it's lines are slightly different. I was THIS close to going with it. In the end, I felt the RWB theme of this bike is so sacred, that It'd be an injustice to put it on. That said, I really don't care THAT much about it's history and lineage to not get something I really wanted, if RWB was the one for me. I wanted more white, just my taste at this very moment. But, the OEM RWB theme on the 6th gens is drool worthy.

Baileyrock

I have a full set of injection molded Chinese bodywork at my house right now. So far everything looks identical to factory. Have a tank cover also, paint and finish on it is not as good as the rest.

Will report back with progress.

Oh wow. Great! Can you give us the details? Who'd you purchase from? What color scheme? Price paid? Freebies, etc.? Be nice to have a comparo...

Good luck with it. I'm very interested to see yours.

This is an option as well. They have a US based office in Florida and they will also do custom work, be it paint, graphics or the fairings themselves, i.e. I want to eventually convert my bike to a single side exhaust and they will work with me to make the rear cowl on enclosed piece, instead of having the big openings where the exhaust used to be. I just need to remove my exhaust and send them pics and they will figure out the rest.

http://shop.absfairings.com/

Baileyrock

I have a full set of injection molded Chinese bodywork at my house right now. So far everything looks identical to factory. Have a tank cover also, paint and finish on it is not as good as the rest.

Will report back with progress.

That figures. My fairings are in excellent shape but the tank has some scratches on it. I'd want to change colors anyway, so I'd need the whole works.

Auctmarts replied this evening. They acknowledge payment, but have yet to acknowledge my custom paint request...

Lint

This is an option as well. They have a US based office in Florida and they will also do custom work, be it paint, graphics or the fairings themselves, i.e. I want to eventually convert my bike to a single side exhaust and they will work with me to make the rear cowl on enclosed piece, instead of having the big openings where the exhaust used to be. I just need to remove my exhaust and send them pics and they will figure out the rest.

http://shop.absfairings.com/

I paid $200 less than this kit... FYI.

The airco in the Florida office has to run too.... :-)

tbzep

Baileyrock

I have a full set of injection molded Chinese bodywork at my house right now. So far everything looks identical to factory. Have a tank cover also, paint and finish on it is not as good as the rest.

Will report back with progress.

That figures. My fairings are in excellent shape but the tank has some scratches on it. I'd want to change colors anyway, so I'd need the whole works.

I bought this kit mostly because on the tank cover, but it also includes Every trim piece as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291326361088?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I haven't unpacked every piece, but looking at the upper cowl it looks exactly like factory. I'll try to post some pics this weekend if possible.

I'm trying to finish another bike first before mounting the fairings on this one which maybe a week or so. I will post fit and finish comments and pics.

Took less then 30 days to receive them as well.

BR

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VifferCrab

Auctmarts replied this evening. They acknowledge payment, but have yet to acknowledge my custom paint request...

Lint

This is an option as well. They have a US based office in Florida and they will also do custom work, be it paint, graphics or the fairings themselves, i.e. I want to eventually convert my bike to a single side exhaust and they will work with me to make the rear cowl on enclosed piece, instead of having the big openings where the exhaust used to be. I just need to remove my exhaust and send them pics and they will figure out the rest.

http://shop.absfairings.com/

I paid $200 less than this kit... FYI.

OK, found the link via Google:http://gundamhost.com/auctmarts/shop/index.php?cPath=118_252_253&osCsid=11f8d849dd576fd75cfd98e6df70dd3c

8/8/15

They've acknowledged my tank cover request and I've sent the payment for that. $480 shipped for full kit plus bolt kit, smoked windscreen, rear cowl, and heat shielding, all gratis. I'll be sending paint schema, once again, this afternoon. Remember, it's smart to only ask for one thing per email. But they always reply. Always.

Anyway here's a gratuitous pic of wifey in front of lake yesterday and then on the ferry crossing the Potomac up in northwest Maryland .. I'll toss those in sporadically.

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Hmmm, i would guess Trinidad?

Already guessed .

Am I correct in assuming the pics above are with the new fairings? Maybe not, you are going black and white.

No he is changing colors to white and black .

Right. I just started the ordering process. Gonna be a month or so I'd guess before I have hands on the kit. White, black, with red accents.

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Lint

This is an option as well. They have a US based office in Florida and they will also do custom work, be it paint, graphics or the fairings themselves, i.e. I want to eventually convert my bike to a single side exhaust and they will work with me to make the rear cowl on enclosed piece, instead of having the big openings where the exhaust used to be. I just need to remove my exhaust and send them pics and they will figure out the rest.

http://shop.absfairings.com/

Darn, too bad they don't make anything for 5th gen.

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Double Dam, that they make nothing for the 4th Gen.

The pics are killing me.

PS I was gonna say D.R... :wink:

8/10/15 - Auctmarts acknowledges again that I'm paid in full, and they emailed one more time to be 100% certain on paint scheme. Fingers crossed...

Now, in the meantime, I need to find someone to paint my wheels.

PowderCoat them. Here's it about $40 - $60 each.

Do you know if the company you ordered from is able to blank the headlight, taillight, and turn signal openings? Nobody makes track fairings for the VFR, but if it's possible to order them custom through these guys, I'll be all over that.

Motographer

Do you know if the company you ordered from is able to blank the headlight, taillight, and turn signal openings? Nobody makes track fairings for the VFR, but if it's possible to order them custom through these guys, I'll be all over that.

sales@auctmarts.com

I'm pretty sure they can do grab handles, not sure about the other bits... that seems like a completely different mold but shoot them an email. 24-36 hour reply time...

Motographer

Do you know if the company you ordered from is able to blank the headlight, taillight, and turn signal openings? Nobody makes track fairings for the VFR, but if it's possible to order them custom through these guys, I'll be all over that.

http://shop.absfairings.com/motorcycle_fairings/race-fairings

8/11/2105 - Sent email to Auctmarts yesterday stating that I'm very sensitive to possible overspray on inside of front fairings. Since the VFR has a pretty open front, I'd really hate to see any overspray in there. They replied quickly asking if I'd just prefer the inside of the fairing be painted as well. Yes, please.

Outstanding communication and reaction to my customization requests so far.

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I am impressed so far ..

OK here are some shots on my Chinese Injection molded body work. I took shots of the most critical item (upper fairing) as it has the most mounting points.

I have to say it looks Factory! The paint is not as nice as the last set I got though but looks good enough.

The test will be fitment, but don't expect any issues. The last none -injection molded kit took 8 hrs to mod & mount! :wacko:

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BR

RazorWing

Lint

This is an option as well. They have a US based office in Florida and they will also do custom work, be it paint, graphics or the fairings themselves, i.e. I want to eventually convert my bike to a single side exhaust and they will work with me to make the rear cowl on enclosed piece, instead of having the big openings where the exhaust used to be. I just need to remove my exhaust and send them pics and they will figure out the rest.

http://shop.absfairings.com/

Darn, too bad they don't make anything for 5th gen.

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There are many companies that do make 5th gen kits. :beer:

Baileyrock

RazorWing

Lint

This is an option as well. They have a US based office in Florida and they will also do custom work, be it paint, graphics or the fairings themselves, i.e. I want to eventually convert my bike to a single side exhaust and they will work with me to make the rear cowl on enclosed piece, instead of having the big openings where the exhaust used to be. I just need to remove my exhaust and send them pics and they will figure out the rest.

http://shop.absfairings.com/

Darn, too bad they don't make anything for 5th gen.

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There are many companies that do make 5th gen kits. :beer:

The Company from the OP does. I contacted them as their site lists one color and they will do whatever color/scene/etc, just watching for updates.

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Okay, I gotta say, I'm getting more and more excited. Here's my final pic to them, with the caveat that there be no overspray on forward facing fairings and stripe between all white and black parts be red, along with all lettering and logos.

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I did that same color scheme w/o red strips.

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VifferCrab

Okay, I gotta say, I'm getting more and more excited. Here's my final pic to them, with the caveat that there be no overspray on forward facing fairings and stripe between all white and black parts be red, along with all lettering and logos.

That's a lots of requests/demandments. You're getting damn close to a custom shop paint job, I'd say, with all of these "special requests". Count me in as curious to see what you finally get, and whether or not they are listening to what you want, and actually doing it. What's all this costing you again, USD, total with shipping and everything?

Lint

Motographer

Do you know if the company you ordered from is able to blank the headlight, taillight, and turn signal openings? Nobody makes track fairings for the VFR, but if it's possible to order them custom through these guys, I'll be all over that.

Www.absfairings.com can do it for you, or really anything custom, they can even fill and smooth the tail cowling if you went with a single side exhaust. The race fairings are an additional $99 to have the taillight and headlight holes filled,sanded, etc. Give them a call at 540 324 7464, each time I've called them, they they pick up and answer my questions. I don't know about the other place linked above.

http://shop.absfairings.com/motorcycle_fairings/race-fairings

Thanks! I'll give them a try tomorrow. There's a track weekend at the Corvette Museum circuit Labor Day weekend that I'm going to try and make. I REALLY don't want to risk rashing up the factory RWB fairings.

Baileyrock

I did that same color scheme w/o red strips.

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Looks fantastic. Tank design is a little different, not much.

Glad I added a splash of color. Almost thinking I could go with a little more.

Thanks for sharing

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wgregt

VifferCrab

Okay, I gotta say, I'm getting more and more excited. Here's my final pic to them, with the caveat that there be no overspray on forward facing fairings and stripe between all white and black parts be red, along with all lettering and logos.

That's a lots of requests/demandments. You're getting damn close to a custom shop paint job, I'd say, with all of these "special requests". Count me in as curious to see what you finally get, and whether or not they are listening to what you want, and actually doing it. What's all this costing you again, USD, total with shipping and everything?

Indeed, I've tweaked the design a few times. Every time I do, they don't complain and say, no problem.

Total out of pocket is $479, shipped to Maryland inclusive of custom tank cover, painting inside of nose fairings, black. Bolt kit, smoked windscreen, and rear cowl.

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8/13/15 - Auctmarts contacted me to confirm exactly which VFR, Interceptor and Tank decal I wanted.

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If it works out great, its almost too good to be true at that price.

I'm very interested on outcome, as I've always like the idea of a two fairing set option, to change look of bike a couple of times a year.

When are you supposed to receive everything?

I'm watching this thread with great interest - thanks for sharing your experiences through this process, VifferCrab. :fing02:

I'm toying with the idea of getting a custom Tricolor fairing set (Italian Green/White/Red) for my Silver '02 to mess with people's heads - a cross between the RWB VFR scheme and an MV Augusta colour scheme (green on bottom, red on top). I might also just go for a plain red set, as I used to have an '05 in red, and I just love that colour. Either way, this thread is really useful for me.

Other than the quality of the custom paint, I'm curious about how well the tank cover works. I'll be eagerly awaiting progress updates! :beer:

Yeah, I'm also very interested in seeing how the tank cover works. My tank is red, will that color be seen around the gas flap? I guess we'll find out...

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Lint

When are you supposed to receive everything?

I pinged them this morning asking for a timeline. I should know something by tomorrow. Will update... I also linked them to this thread. :)

Baileyrock, can you snap a few pics of the tank cover?

The suspense is killing me!

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They told me should be ready to ship in a about a week. They'll send pics of everything for my approval before shipment. Then figure another week for transport or so. Getting closer...

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VifferCrab

They told me should be ready to ship in a about a week. They'll send pics of everything for my approval before shipment. Then figure another week for transport or so. Getting closer...

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Wow this is almost unbelievable .

Yeah, cautiously optimistic on the timeline. We'll see, I suppose.

I also asked them if they could paint match the bolt kit to the color of the stickers, and think I confused them a bit. Was told, the bolt kit is black. So, we'll see what they send.

In other news, I've ordered new Emgo carbon fiber mirrors for it as well. I'm gonna go ahead and order a new rear sprocket and chain too. Since the wheels are gonna be broken down for powder coating, might as well put new shiny stuff back on during assembly.

Turning into a bit of a project now.

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Early Christmas !

Subscribing to the thread and wishing you good luck. Hopefully this will be a cheap fix for the raccoon I smashed into a few months back.

Just picked this up in preparation for the color change. Getting closer...

Also just got off the phone with the guy who's gonna powdercoat the wheels. $170 total if I bring him the wheels loose, and broken down.

Seems reasonable.

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Does the new helmet have the "transitions" shield? I'm strongly considering one.

I have riden with the transitions lenses and it is the best thing since sliced bread.

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wagzhp

Does the new helmet have the "transitions" shield? I'm strongly considering one.

Just ordered the transition lens too. Should be here mid next week I guess.

I got this helmet DIRT cheap guys. Not sure what the rules are in the forum in regards to linking to non-vendor sites. But if interested, PM me. It was south of $200. Couldn't resist. We've gone from having zero helmets to having 4, in less than a month.

This Bell. A SHOEI, and 2 O'Neal Commanders with built in Bluetooth. I need help.

Helmet should go nicely with the new White/Black/Red fairing theme...

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CandyRedRC46

I have riden with the transitions lenses and it is the best thing since sliced bread.

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Everything I've read/watched, says it's bad ass.

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VifferCrab

Just picked this up in preparation for the color change. Getting closer...

Also just got off the phone with the guy who's gonna powdercoat the wheels. $170 total if I bring him the wheels loose, and broken down.

Seems reasonable.

I got a quote 2 weeks ago on my 6th gen wheels of $55 each. Still on the fence about it, but I guess it was a better deal than I thought at first.

$110 sounds better for sure. I'm not gonna quibble over ~75 or so. DC Metro area has its luxury tax I suppose.

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New levers. Grips and D3 bar ends coming too...

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Sent email asking for update on paintwork.... should be getting VERY close to shipment, I'd think.

Rear tire hugger ordered.

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What brand?

rhoderage

What brand?

Honda OEM

Part # 08F70-MJM-D10

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VifferCrab

rhoderage

What brand?

Honda OEM

Part # 08F70-MJM-D10

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They fit 6th gens?

Well his avatar is a sixth gen so....

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And his bike is a sixth gen...

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tbzep

VifferCrab

rhoderage

What brand?

Honda OEM

Part # 08F70-MJM-D10

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They fit 6th gens?

So, that was my question too. When I google the part number, it comes up for the new bikes... but I was told by the seller (Honda dealer) that it works on 6th gen too. As with much of this thread, I guess we'll find out. :wacko:

CandyRedRC46

Well his avatar is a sixth gen so....

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And his bike is a sixth gen...

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Which I already knew and your post doesn't help one bit. The part is for an 8th gen.

I sees them online for about $75. If they fit, that will be cool!

Auctmarts got back to me. Couple more days before I'm able to put eyes on the prize. I should have pics to share by the weekend.

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I sees them online for about $75. If they fit, that will be cool!

I stared for abut 10 minutes at an 8th gen and a 6th gen swingarm photo because I was tired and didn't feel like going to the shop to look at my bike.

At the minimum, it looks like we would have to drill holes in the swingarm to mount it. I'm hoping I'm wrong, though.

Thanks for putting in the work guys. It would be great to get my bike looking new again for $400, after 70,000 miles and 7 years of daily abuse. Sorry for smart ass response earlier. :)

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Thanks for putting in the work guys. It would be great to get my bike looking new again for $400, after 70,000 miles and 7 years of daily abuse. Sorry for smart ass response earlier. :)

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I think a lot of us are watching this thread closely! Going by Kevin's pics, the fairings are probably going to be fine. I'm waiting to see if they've improved tank cover finish and fit. If they have, these guys will probably get 20 or 30 orders within 24 hours!

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Lint

I sees them online for about $75. If they fit, that will be cool!

I stared for abut 10 minutes at an 8th gen and a 6th gen swingarm photo because I was tired and didn't feel like going to the shop to look at my bike.

At the minimum, it looks like we would have to drill holes in the swingarm to mount it. I'm hoping I'm wrong, though.

Yeah, probably won't work. Maybe I'll donate it to science...

In other news, it's about time for another pic of wifey for absolutely no reason other than she's fun to look at. She's so clandestine, but has amazing helmet hair. So there's that...

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Guess who's got two thumbs, and an 8 spoker on its way?

This Guy.

Thanks to member deltaboxii for guiding me to this wheel, and educating me on it. Was purchased from a great member on another site, should have it in a couple of days.

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Let's see: new bodywork, hugger, and an 8-spoke? Should look ballin' when done! Following... Anxious to take a peek at what's coming your way!

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Let's see: new bodywork, hugger, and an 8-spoke? Should look ballin' when done! Following... Anxious to take a peek at what's coming your way!

New Sargent seat, new mirrors, new levers, new grips, new bar ends... new just about damn everything. This is NOT how I saw this going at all. LOL.

I have my doubts about the hugger though... I can't imagine it's gonna work. Gonna give it a shot though. If not, I'll use it as big ass cereal spoon.

And one day later, I have this! Came next day. Wow!

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What state did it ship from? That's fast!

Ohio to Maryland. I friggin love dealing with amazing sellers.

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It's gonna be good !!

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And one day later, I have this! Came next day. Wow!

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Nice looking tricycle :).

New levers made it this weekend. Driven D3 grips with Driven Axis bar ends en route... No word from Auctmarts this weekend though, like I had anticipated.

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Here we go folks...

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I have informed them that the scheme was to be carried over to the cowl, but to just send everything else and correct that later.

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Looks good. Definitely let us know how they fit. Did they send the caps for the rear grab bar holes?

They "look" good, here's hoping they fit.

Agree, at first look they appear very well done... fitment is key though

Installed ?

Looks good. Definitely let us know how they fit. Did they send the caps for the rear grab bar holes?

No, I wanted the grab handles to stay, at my wife's request, since she's back there an awful lot.  

Installed ?

No, we're in the "Make sure you like everything before we ship it", phase.   

Changed thread title.    This has morphed from a chinese fairing review, to a full on build thread, at this point.  

Oh look, Carbon fiber (look) mirrors are here...

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So, was the painted bodywork photos the manufacturer sent to you or pics you took?

So, was the painted bodywork photos the manufacturer sent to you or pics you took?

Nope, keep the updates comming.

I'm enjoying this.  As OEM fairing bits become more and more difficult to find, this thread will become so much more valuable.  Not to mention this seems easier than painting all the OEM bits if someone wants a unique design.

Thanks!!!

I just passed on a nice 2007 Anniversary bike, hoping your project works out nicely.  I will come down to how the tank cover looks.  I figure spending a few hundred on new skins is better than spending a few thousand on a bike and having to swap out my suspension bits and other stuff.

Very well....

Okay, here's the latest:   I have bad news, bad news and VERY good news.

Bad news #1 - It's going to be another 3-5 days before they can ship it, due to errors in the paint booth.   (See bad news #2)

Bad news #2 - Auctmarts initially dropped the ball on my custom paint job.   The picture from them earlier in this thread wasn't exactly what I designed.  I emailed them stating that they completely forgot to paint the rear seat cowl.  I was told 3-5 days to fix.

VERY good news #1 - What I thought was just an error in the cowl, was actually larger than that.   After receiving my email, they took it upon themselves to totally go over the design again on their end, from nose to tail.   I completely missed 2 other errors in their final product, that THEY caught.  Not me, THEM.   They sent me a picture (see below) of what the final product WILL look like.   To me, this is OUTSTANDING customer service.   Kudos to them for not just listening to me spout off about the cowl, fix that, and send everything.    Even though it's going to be delayed another work week,  I'm very satisfied that they actually care about what the customer gets, and they take pride in their work.    To be honest fellas (and ladies),  As long as everything fits as they say it will, it's going to be hard for me not to fully endorse them at this point.   Obviously that's a little premature, but right now, it's hard not to.

Here's what they sent me back:

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That certainly looks good hope it fits well , very different scheme for paint but really looks like it will look great when finished.

What  happens  to the wrong  pieces ?

What  happens  to the wrong  pieces ?

I'm guessing they are just being repainted.

That certainly looks good hope it fits well , very different scheme for paint but really looks like it will look great when finished.

Thanks, as is with everything else with this build...  we'll see, I suppose.   Fingers crossed.

What  happens  to the wrong  pieces ?

The gambler in me says they're gonna sand/repaint.    Didn't ask...  Remember: One Day, One Email, One Question is all you get.  Didn't want to waste one on that question with them.    :goofy:

What  happens  to the wrong  pieces ?

I'm guessing they are just being repainted.

This.  

what mirrors did you get? do you like them? i need new ones, and the carbon looks good on those.

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That certainly looks good hope it fits well , very different scheme for paint but really looks like it will look great when finished.

Thanks, as is with everything else with this build...  we'll see, I suppose.   Fingers crossed.

So  you have to return  them ?

what mirrors did you get? do you like them? i need new ones, and the carbon looks good on those.

Made by Emgo, got em on Amazon.  So far so good.. 

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That certainly looks good hope it fits well , very different scheme for paint but really looks like it will look great when finished.

Thanks, as is with everything else with this build...  we'll see, I suppose.   Fingers crossed.

So  you have to return  them ?

No sir.   The fairings haven't been shipped yet.   They send you a picture of the product for you to okay, before they ship.   I didn't okay it, we made some adjustments.  

what mirrors did you get? do you like them? i need new ones, and the carbon looks good on those.

Made by Emgo, got em on Amazon.  So far so good.. 

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That certainly looks good hope it fits well , very different scheme for paint but really looks like it will look great when finished.

Thanks, as is with everything else with this build...  we'll see, I suppose.   Fingers crossed.

So  you have to return  them ?

No sir.   The fairings haven't been shipped yet.   They send you a picture of the product for you to okay, before they ship.   I didn't okay it, we made some adjustments.  

Got it  .   Brain farted .

The waiting is the hardest part. Hopefully.

Can't wait to hear and see how they fit. :happy:

If this is becoming mundane and boring because it's dragging out, let me know. I'll pare down the updates.

Oh lordy no. Keep 'em comin'!  :lurk:

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The waiting is the hardest part.

Taking the 8 spoke to have junk tire removed, tomorrow, then headed out to powder coat. I then have an appt moved up on this Friday to have the front wheel removed, tire removed, and wheel broken down. I'll drop that one off Friday to the powder coater. Should have both wheels back on the bike early next week. Not really gonna match the current fairings too well, but at least that'll all be done by the time the fairings make it.

Grips and ends should be here in a day or two.


Gonna go ahead and order a new clean chain. Was gonna do a whole 3pc upgrade, but I actually need to start hiding stuff from the wife. She's wise to my hijinx. ;)

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Not to be patronizing, but make sure the someone tapes off the bearing area of the wheels before they're powder coated.
It's one of those obvious steps that sometimes gets forgotten.

Taking the 8 spoke to have junk tire removed, tomorrow, then headed out to powder coat. I then have an appt moved up on this Friday to have the front wheel removed, tire removed, and wheel broken down. I'll drop that one off Friday to the powder coater. Should have both wheels back on the bike early next week. Not really gonna match the current fairings too well, but at least that'll all be done by the time the fairings make it.

Grips and ends should be here in a day or two.


Gonna go ahead and order a new clean chain. Was gonna do a whole 3pc upgrade, but I actually need to start hiding stuff from the wife. She's wise to my hijinx. ;)

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Not to be patronizing, but make sure the someone tapes off the bearing area of the wheels before they're powder coated.
It's one of those obvious steps that sometimes gets forgotten.

Bearings are being pulled on the front. Just dropped rear off at for powdercoat.


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No, he's saying to make sure that the surface area where the bearings will be re-installed into are taped off.  Getting new bearings back in with the added thickness of the powder coating is impossible.  Keep the powder coating off of that area with tape, or you will have to spend a lot of time removing it to be able to install the bearings.

Taking the 8 spoke to have junk tire removed, tomorrow, then headed out to powder coat. I then have an appt moved up on this Friday to have the front wheel removed, tire removed, and wheel broken down. I'll drop that one off Friday to the powder coater. Should have both wheels back on the bike early next week. Not really gonna match the current fairings too well, but at least that'll all be done by the time the fairings make it.

Grips and ends should be here in a day or two.


Gonna go ahead and order a new clean chain. Was gonna do a whole 3pc upgrade, but I actually need to start hiding stuff from the wife. She's wise to my hijinx. ;)

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Not to be patronizing, but make sure the someone tapes off the bearing area of the wheels before they're powder coated.
It's one of those obvious steps that sometimes gets forgotten.

Bearings are being pulled on the front. Just dropped rear off at for powdercoat.


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No, he's saying to make sure that the surface area where the bearings will be re-installed into are taped off.  Getting new bearings back in with the added thickness of the powder coating is impossible.  Keep the powder coating off of that area with tape, or you will have to spend a lot of time removing it to be able to install the bearings.

Ahhhh, got it.    The wheel comes from the factory powder coated, correct?    When they strip that off,  then re powerdercoat it, it's a net zero, I'd think.   Unless that area is left bare metal from the factory?   I see your point though.  This place does lots of motorcycle and car wheels,  I'm sure they're familiar, but I'll remind them just in case.   Thanks for the info...

Ahhhh, got it.    The wheel comes from the factory powder coated, correct?    When they strip that off,  then re powerdercoat it, it's a net zero, I'd think.   Unless that area is left bare metal from the factory?   I see your point though.  This place does lots of motorcycle and car wheels,  I'm sure they're familiar, but I'll remind them just in case.   Thanks for the info...

I'm not sure, but I think they come from the factory with paint.  But even so, the bearing (and I think rotor) mounting surfaces are paint/coating free.  (Or, at least that's what the old rims in my garage look like.) Check those areas after you have removed the tire, rotors, and bearings.  You want them to come back from powder coating in the same condition.  A good shop should be careful about those areas, but it never hurts to ask them before the work is done.

Yup.  All good points.   I just contacted the powder guy to be sensitive to those areas....  

Those look absolutely too good to put on a bike send them to me and I can mount them on the wall in my shop .

It looks like they did an OUTSTANDING job on those wheels!  I'm liking your paint design, too.

i have retro reflective red tape on my wheels and it works/looks amazing. it shines bright even in the sun.

Corrections made to the 3 pieces. Ships tomorrow...

Wheels are done today, they got backed up over the holiday. New DID black/gold chain going on today, along with new front and +2 rear sprocket.

Here's the corrected pieces. Hopefully have in a week or so...

I'm hoping the funny looking striping on the cowl is just a reflection.  From the cast of the shadows, it appears the sun is directly overhead...    

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There  picture studio  leaves alot to desire .

You don't like the cracked concrete backdrop?   Pffft...  

At least put a towel down or something, right?   LOL... I thought the same thing... whacha gonna do?  $479.00 shipped, with custom paint.   :)

You don't like the cracked concrete backdrop?   Pffft...  

At least put a towel down or something, right?   LOL... I thought the same thing... whacha gonna do?  $479.00 shipped, with custom paint.   :)

You  gotta  wonder  what the paint  booth  look like .

But if the finished product is good  i guess it does not matter .

You don't like the cracked concrete backdrop?   Pffft...  

At least put a towel down or something, right?   LOL... I thought the same thing... whacha gonna do?  $479.00 shipped, with custom paint.   :)

You  gotta  wonder  what the paint  booth  look like .

But if the finished product is good  i guess it does not matter .

I'm guessing I won't be entering it into the Concours d'Elegance anytime soon.    Everyone that's posted on other bike forums about buying these things all say the paint is like a 9/10...  I'll take it.

I will say the wheels are a 10/10.  That shop killed it.  

At least put a towel down or something, right?  

That's what she said

  Anyway,  It's probably gonna look a bit goofy until the new plastic arrives, but my excitement is now palpable. 
 
 
 

It won't look goofy.  Red VFR's with white wheels look pretty awesome...assuming the wheels aren't covered with brake dust.  :)

At least put a towel down or something, right?  

 
That's what she said

I can see why you are getting excited.  I am too and ready to see final product.  That color scheme is going to look extra slick.  Makes me think something similar in the greys, maroons and blacks would be a cool look too.  Keep updates coming.

Do you know if the company you ordered from is able to blank the headlight, taillight, and turn signal openings? Nobody makes track fairings for the VFR, but if it's possible to order them custom through these guys, I'll be all over that.

sales@auctmarts.com

I'm pretty sure they can do grab handles,  not sure about the other bits...  that seems like a completely different mold but shoot them an email.   24-36 hour reply time... 

I emailed auctmarts and they said they can fill the headlight and other holes.  They Said it was an Extra $100 per set.

I had the white wheel and white fender on red bike look for a while. It Looked great, but I couldn't keep up with keeping it clean, because I'm lazy lol.

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So then I did black wheel and carbon fender.


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Where did you get the carbon fender?

That  looks like a  R1 front forks .

That Candyred so  I know thats a R1 front fork.

Where did you get the carbon fender?

I have an R1 front end. R1 carbon fenders are a dime a dozen on ebay.

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DAMN THAT LOOKS GOOD!!!!!

Hey is that a sargent seat? is it heavier than factory?

Thank you, sir. Looks better than I expected, on solid red.

Yup, that was the first thing I did, I think. No clue if it's heavier, but it's worth it's weight in gold, for me. It's a lot more comfy for my ASSets.



grips and ends...

Looks kinda silly against the red fairings, but should pop nicely against the white.

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DAMN THAT LOOKS GOOD!!!!!

Hey is that a sargent seat? is it heavier than factory?

i think most of the aftermarket seats are heavier due the denser foams and gels that some use... my Saddleman kit I installed on the Y2K felt heavier but I never threw it on a scale.  I'll do it next time I have it off for a data point.

Hey, quick question guys....
 
 
Shop did new front and rear sprockets, along with chain.  Since then, speedo is jacked!  Registers zero... up until about 30 mph than goes bat-shit crazy bouncing around all over the place then kinda settles down a bit around 50 mph +.   I'm guessing speed sensor of some sort, but having exactly zero working knowledge of this particular bike... is the sensor involved... or at least near the front sprocket on this dune buggy?  They also were responsible for removing front and rear wheel for powder coat, so maybe the speedo sensor it at one of those two places?   Where do I look first?  

I've informed them of it, and they'll take it back to fix, but I'd like to give it a shot first on my own, with help from the membership here.  
 
T.I.A.
Ahhhh, it just dawned on me that I never posted pics of the new chain.... Not exciting, but here it goes... Black with gold inners...


Gonna change sprocket bolts to red, I think....  Hell, I dunno anymore.. so many irons in the fire, I can't keep track.

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And again, if the updates are just too damn much, let me know. I'll take my foot off the throttle...

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The speedo sensor has a plastic coupling that engages with the sprocket nut. If the sprocket cover was removed and reinstalled without lining the coupling and sprocket up (by rotating the back wheel as needed) then when everything is snugged tight the sprocket nut can damage the coupling and give erratic contact. Undo the two bolts holding the speedo sensor on and pull it off to inspect the coupling. The shaft should not stick right through into the socket end, if it does it is damaged and needs to be replaced, good news is they are less than $10 and common across a lot of Hondas.

You got the wheel  dirty .

You know, a windowed clutch cover would be perfect on that bike... :wink:

DuPont teflon chain lube dries clear. It will help keep your wheels white and your gold/black chain gold and black.

good looking bike!  Reminds me of the '90 (or '91?  can never remember) VFR 750 red with white wheels. 

And so begins the saga of the dirty white wheel lol

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That is a lot of wheel weights

If you think the grease makes a mess wait until you have to clean brake dust off the White  front wheel after a wet ride I used to really hate that job when I had white wheels

That is a lot of wheel weights

If you think the grease makes a mess wait until you have to clean brake dust off the White  front wheel after a wet ride I used to really hate that job when I had white wheels

Would be half that if they were still making them out of lead.

DuPont teflon chain lube dries clear. It will help keep your wheels white and your gold/black chain gold and black.

+1

I use this stuff and it greatly reduces the cleaning needed to keep your wheels looking good and it does a great job flushing the cr@p out from the links... use a piece of cardboard to keep the overspray and washout off the rims.

Where do you get it? I bought a can once @ Lowe's of all places. I don't think they carry it any more.

Where do you get it? I bought a can once @ Lowe's of all places. I don't think they carry it any more.

Some Walmart stores carry it, but not all.  Some Lowe's and Home Depots.  Amazon.

I have not bought the actual DuPont Chainsaver yet, but am finishing off can of the Dupont Multi-use Teflon lubricant.  Think they are pretty close and it says on can that you are able to use on motorcycle chains.  It is a dry wax, teflon lubricant too.  Dries clear and does not sling off.  Really good stuff.  Think I bought it at Lowes or Wallyworld too and it is not hard to find nor expensive.  

I have not bought the actual DuPont Chainsaver yet, but am finishing off can of the Dupont Multi-use Teflon lubricant.  Think they are pretty close and it says on can that you are able to use on motorcycle chains.  It is a dry wax, teflon lubricant too.  Dries clear and does not sling off.  Really good stuff.  Think I bought it at Lowes or Wallyworld too and it is not hard to find nor expensive.  

The DuPont Multi-use is what I used until they reformulated it.  Chainsaver isn't as good as the original Multi-use, but it's better than the current version and better than most other stuff.

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Hard to see in the pictures, but ypu did properly stake the large 46 rear axle nut did you?

Already looking to the "bikini wash" pictures by the way.....    :cheerleader:

Where do you get it? I bought a can once @ Lowe's of all places. I don't think they carry it any more.

Some Walmart stores carry it, but not all.  Some Lowe's and Home Depots.  Amazon.

+1 on amazon... I order 2 at a time and get it delivered to my door.

Had a '92 CBR600F2 back in the day with white wheels.  Loved 'em but took a lot care.  Hint:  use a firm bristle toothbrush with your choice of liquid cleaner to get into the tight spaces.  Source a good comfy low stool.   :wink:

Hard to see in the pictures, but ypu did properly stake the large 46 rear axle nut did you?
 
 
Already looking to the "bikini wash" pictures by the way.....    :cheerleader:

I certainly didn't stake any nuts. I did however, get hammered this afternoon watching my beloved Redskins blow yet another lead. I celebrated the debacle with steak jerky. Does that count?

Bikini bike wash may be in play. I'll round up the bishes.... :crazy:

I actually had a shop do the wheel removal and brake down the front wheel to ready it for powder coat, and install the sprockets/chain etc...   I hope they did everything right.    I put about a hundred spirited miles on it, since getting it back...  seems okay to me.    Except that they did break the speedo sensor.    I was going to take that apart and fix it while I was cleaning everything but decided I'll take it back to them.   I paid them in good old fashioned American dollars, so they're on the hook for that.  

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remove the round rubber cap thingie from the rear sprocket carrier/axle

Look closely at the rear axle threaded end, there is a bit/groove cut out.  The large nut has a thin metal ring on top and this should be staked/punched into the grovve on the axle.

If this is not done by the shop then this a serious omission..

(from the 3rd/4th gen manual but the principle is the same)

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To change the sprocket and chain indeed one doesnot need to take the nut off.

But in the lovely pictures, I could not see that the nut is staked.

The last one shows the mark but it *looks* not in.

Worse thing that can -and has for some here, not me- is that the nut and then the whole lot comes off...

hmmmmm i never caught that picture, and still see no reason why anyone would be messing with that nut.

I'm trying to follow what you guys are talking about here? What was the shop messing with? Didn't they just change the chain/sprockets and paint the wheel? Why would they pull the whole hub assembly apart?

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Those are my thoughts too. None of this needs to be done for a simple rear wheel off & on.

So to check if the nut is staked properly, you just pop off the plastic cap?

So to check if the nut is staked properly, you just pop off the plastic cap?

Just rotate the wheel and look at the edge of the nut. You'll see the dent if it's been done.

Hmm  any  cracks  ?

Looked okay to me, but what the heck do I know.    I turned the key on, and spun the sensor by hand and the speedo moved.   I buttoned it all back up and will probably ride it into the office tomorrow, and see if it made a difference.    It worked perfectly until the sprockets were changed, problem has to be related.   And of course, FI light now comes on and stays solid everyone once in a while.  A key cycle makes it go away.    Does this sensor do anything more than calculate vehicle rolling speed?    Does it affect fueling and ignition at all?   Seems to be running a bit rough since all this nonsense... but that could be jedi mind tricks...  

Reinstall  everything and pull the  battery connection off and leave disconnect  for 5 minutes. Then reconnect battery and start the bike and see if the FI light clears. 

Reinstall  everything and pull the  battery connection off and leave disconnect  for 5 minutes. Then reconnect battery and start the bike and see if the FI light clears. 

It actually cleared with every key cycle, even without pulling the battery.    It's happened 3 times in the last two days.   All 3 times, at a red light, I recycled the key and it went away, for the rest of my ride.    I did do the 15 minute reset tonight, haven't started it up since.   I'll let it idle for 10 minutes tomorrow and see what happens... If it goofs up again, I'll Thelma and Louise this thing off a cliff.    :goofy:

Look for my "for sale" thread for some new fairings.   HA!

Reinstall  everything and pull the  battery connection off and leave disconnect  for 5 minutes. Then reconnect battery and start the bike and see if the FI light clears. 

It actually cleared with every key cycle, even without pulling the battery.    It's happened 3 times in the last two days.   All 3 times, at a red light, I recycled the key and it went away, for the rest of my ride.    I did do the 15 minute reset tonight, haven't started it up since.   I'll let it idle for 10 minutes tomorrow and see what happens... If it goofs up again, I'll Thelma and Louise this thing off a cliff.    :goofy:

Look for my "for sale" thread for some new fairings.   HA!

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Did you check and see what code it was flashing?

Did you check and see what code it was flashing?

Nah, I didn't.  Not yet, anyway...    The thing has never thrown a code, then went in to have the sprockets changed, since that day it threw a code a few times, and the speedo stopped working.   I'm using deductive reasoning up to this point...

Drove it to the office today, no change in speedo.   No FI code though...  

If I recall correctly, the speedo pickup goes right over the bolt for the front sprocket.  Is the pickup fitting over the bolt head enough to spin it properly?

I can't say for sure, but the center of the speedo drive looks like it's pushed too far onto the cable.  Like they didn't line up the sprocket bolt and the cable end, and just force the sprocket cover back on, damaging the cable end.

I can't say for sure, but the center of the speedo drive looks like it's pushed too far onto the cable.  Like they didn't line up the sprocket bolt and the cable end, and just force the sprocket cover back on, damaging the cable end.

Yeah... what he said.  I just went to the garage and took mine apart to have a look-see.  There is a 1/4" of space between the speedometer joint (white plastic) and the sensor assembly. 

I had this exact problem this week. My speedo was behaving very erratically. On a steady throttle it would jump all over the place - 22, 11, 34, 9, 13, etc. Ran through the troubleshooting section in the Haynes manual and all the continuity checks and resistance readings checked out. Then I read this thread:

http://www.vfrdiscus...py-speedometer/

I double checked mine and found it to be faulty. If the 'key' on the speed sensor has pushed through the nylon joint (like it has on yours), it won't sit far enough onto the front sprocket bolt to get a good grip. The sprocket bolt will spin inside it and eventually round out the inside of the joint. It's a cheap enough part, just replace it.

Had the same exact thing happen on my first 5th gen. I just slid the white portion forward on the shaft and buttoned it back up. That lasted for at least 40K.

Hope it all turns out well. I am looking for a track-worthy set, although if your Chinese fairing are any good, I might buy them as the good set!

In addition to Seb's clear clutch cover, have you thought about clear turn signals?  Suspension?  Valve check?  OK, that last one is just silly...

Most importantly, how many VFRD rallies do you plan to make so the VFR can be used for its intended purpose?  PRB's Fall Ride comes to mind...

Nah, not worried. I changed the scheme probably 5 times before they started. Had to send it back to paint once. It was done and ready to ship two weeks ago. I changed something up so it was delayed. They've done everything fine so far...


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When you are done, could you please re-summarize the cost for us? I can't find it in the almost two dozen pages!

Thank you.

Sure.

For just the fairing kit or total invested?

Just the kit:

$399 for any of their 6th gen kits, including custom paint and shipping. Also included free windscreen, bolt kit, rear seat cowl, and heat shielding.

$89 for custom matched tank cover.


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Thank you! That seems to be too good to be true, but I sincerely hope to be wrong.

Well, assuming the seller reads this thread too, if he can do a good job at that price, he will get more orders....

I just went with the replacement Red. I had a black bike previous (which is a GREAT black) but the Red they used for the VFR is just to glorious not to have. 

I'm looking at a red set as well, so I may wait for you to get yours before I order mine... If you do start up another thread can you post some pics / a review when you get 'em (or PM 'em)? I'm in no rush to order, though - once winter rolls in up here in the great white North it'll be ages until I can get the bike out again...

I contacted them about the tank cover, but before I order I still want to see pics of an installed one as they said:

"We do offer tank cover for VFR800 02-12 which is 99USD extra, but the fitment of the tank cover is not perfect as it is just an extra cover to cover the actual gas tank. Fairing kit is injection molded, but the tank cover is compression molded." 

I also asked about the shade of red they use - as Honda had Italian Red (R157) on the 2002+, and Winning Red (R258) on the 2005. I previously had an '05, but I kinda prefer the deeper red on the '03. Their reply was:

"We didn't follow specific paint code, but you can send us paint chip for color match."

So it's kinda a gamble what shade it's gonna be - though from their pics I think it's quite a light shade, so probably closer to the '05.

Anyhoo, good luck with your order.  :smile2:

And I'm rooting for you too, VifferCrab. Can't wait to see the end result of your project!  :fing02:

I learned a little trick on international shipment tracking from China, although I forget where.  The tracking on the international website does seem to stop once it leaves the other country.  However, I found that you can generally enter the same tracking number on the USPS website, and tracking continues.  This has only been helpful (as far as I know) for smaller packages.  I am not sure if USPS will deliver your fairings or not.  Anyways, it is worth a shot to put the tracking number in the USPS website once the other website says it left the other country.

Once it goes into the Chinese system the number can track at USPS, After it leaves mainland china you will be info dead until it hits ISC on the east or west coast. ISC mean you are just waiting to clear customs and USPS will then take over.

Go ahead, Cliff Clavin!

I just went with the replacement Red. I had a black bike previous (which is a GREAT black) but the Red they used for the VFR is just to glorious not to have. 

I'm looking at a red set as well, so I may wait for you to get yours before I order mine... If you do start up another thread can you post some pics / a review when you get 'em (or PM 'em)? I'm in no rush to order, though - once winter rolls in up here in the great white North it'll be ages until I can get the bike out again...

I contacted them about the tank cover, but before I order I still want to see pics of an installed one as they said:

"We do offer tank cover for VFR800 02-12 which is 99USD extra, but the fitment of the tank cover is not perfect as it is just an extra cover to cover the actual gas tank. Fairing kit is injection molded, but the tank cover is compression molded." 

I also asked about the shade of red they use - as Honda had Italian Red (R157) on the 2002+, and Winning Red (R258) on the 2005. I previously had an '05, but I kinda prefer the deeper red on the '03. Their reply was:

"We didn't follow specific paint code, but you can send us paint chip for color match."

So it's kinda a gamble what shade it's gonna be - though from their pics I think it's quite a light shade, so probably closer to the '05.

Anyhoo, good luck with your order.  :smile2:

And I'm rooting for you too, VifferCrab. Can't wait to see the end result of your project!  :fing02:

I will post up pictures when I get the plastics, I promise!

Viffer-

I will be interested to see if I get any update now as well.

I just went with the replacement Red. I had a black bike previous (which is a GREAT black) but the Red they used for the VFR is just to glorious not to have. 

I'm looking at a red set as well, so I may wait for you to get yours before I order mine... If you do start up another thread can you post some pics / a review when you get 'em (or PM 'em)? I'm in no rush to order, though - once winter rolls in up here in the great white North it'll be ages until I can get the bike out again...

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Anyhoo, good luck with your order.  :smile2:

I will post up pictures when I get the plastics, I promise!

Thank you, sir!  :wheel:   :fing02:

You've got way more patience than me. I'd have smeared some KY jelly on the tank, wrestled that cover on and bolted up the side panels by now!

Love your colour scheme.

I kinda like the red tank

All that said, this is a little bit more work than I had it worked out in my head.

Getting there...

With any new project I have not tried before, I figure to multiply my first time estimate by 3. :comp13:

Looks like that answers my earlier question about how the tank will fare with the cover on it.   AFAIK, this is the first I've seen of anyone installing one, so very helpful.

Here's a youtube video of how to remove the front fairing / headlight assembly - it takes you through step by step.  The only thing I might add is that the instrument bezel cover has two push pins that go through grommets on the fairing stay.  I don't know about other bikes, but on mine they were a bitch to remove.  I honestly thought I was going to break them.  I finally used the side of a shorty flat blade screwdriver to push on them from the back.  Once off, I trimmed them with a knife and then put some silicone grease on them to make subsequent removal easier.  A second set of hands is also helpful, as you'll need to remove the temp sensor wire once it's pulled forward a bit, and that takes 2 hands leaving none to hold the assembly with.  I cover the front fender with a blanket while doing this to prevent scratching it. 

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Cogswell, this video was invaluable.  Thank you. 

Glad to help!  :fing02:  

This is looking great!  Fingers crossed on the tank cover . . . 

Looking very good ,can't wait to see it all together with that nice colour scheme.

I kinda like the red tank

I'm actually leaning that way Seb. With your clear clutch cover and red pressure plate.... I'm telling you...

I'm not really digging the tank cover application at this very second....

Still buttoning things up. Why do I have so many parts left over. Hmmmm, weird. ;)


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Maybe just add a little white and black vinyl to the tank, to break the red up a bit? You could experiment with plastidip.

What a transformation! 

Find a dented tank and put the cover on it.  Save the red tank or sell it with your red plastics.

Working with the seller to find a reasonable outcome for the tank cover. I'll keep my comments to myself; until I get to test their customer service protocols, but other than the cover, most everything buttoned up as OEM plastics would. Taking one of these naked, then back to full dress, isn't for everyone, no doubt

That said, the most work I've done on a motorcycle before this, consisted of air filter changes and scooping up chicks and tossing them in the backseat during beach week in high school.




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You seem reasonable and understanding. Points to you!

The bike looks terrific and they will sell MANY sets to people like me and Polarbear.

Working with the seller to find a reasonable outcome for the tank cover. I'll keep my comments to myself; until I get to test their customer service protocols, but other than the cover, most everything buttoned up as OEM plastics would. Taking one of these naked, then back to full dress, isn't for everyone, no doubt

That said, the most work I've done on a motorcycle before this, consisted of air filter changes and scooping up chicks and tossing them in the backseat during beach week in high school.




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Did you ask them for install tips for the tank cover? Sounds like you changed your mind on it. They do refunds for stuff like that?

I didn't think about this before, but your color scheme would be a prime candidate for the clear or smoke version of the turn signal and tail light lenses that Thurn and others sell:

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Viffer, can you please post more detail on the tank cover... what is the issue, is it difficult to get over the tank?  Doesn't fit right once on?  Can't get it on for fear of cracking it?  Don't want to scrape up your tank underneath?

The fairings look great, and whatever floats your boat, but if the tank cover fits well I expect the bike would look more 'complete' with it in place... just my opinion

Working with the seller to find a reasonable outcome for the tank cover. I'll keep my comments to myself; until I get to test their customer service protocols, but other than the cover, most everything buttoned up as OEM plastics would. Taking one of these naked, then back to full dress, isn't for everyone, no doubt

That said, the most work I've done on a motorcycle before this, consisted of air filter changes and scooping up chicks and tossing them in the backseat during beach week in high school.




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Did you ask them for install tips for the tank cover? Sounds like you changed your mind on it. They do refunds for stuff like that?

So, I didn't change my mind, it was changed for me.   As it turns out, the tank cover from this particular seller/kit is not of the same ABS injected mold quality as the rest of the fairings.    This piece, is compression molded, and has an incredibly weak seam down the center of it.  It wasn't even close as far as fitment,  the bolt holes nearest the seat didn't line up at all, and the tab that contained  the two most forward bolt holes near the triple tree, broke off completely.   The shell split from the part nearest the seat as well, right up that seam, towards the gas flap hole.      So, I've decided to just paint the tank to match the cover, and ask for a refund of the cover.    If this is the material that older kits were made of,  I can COMPLETELY understand everyone's frustration with installing them.  Good lord, I'd have punched myself repeatedly in the face, if I purchased a full kit made of this material.  

Also,  the windscreen they sent looks okay at first, but is pretty flimsy and the bolt holes don't line up.   That was a freebie toss-in, so nothing lost there.

With all that said, 

I have to stress that the fairings,  instrument bezel,  and all of the little plastics forward of gas tank, and under the nose,  are all VERY close to being 100% spot-on fitment wise.   I slightly enlarged maybe 4 holes that the push-pins had trouble getting into.   Honestly,  had I left those alone and muscled the pins in place,  it'd probably fit.  I just didn't want to risk cracking a fairing mount point, because I over muscled a piece, so i bored out a few holes ever so slightly.  That may have cost me a few mm's in fitment gap somewhere along the line, but having never ever done anything like this  before, and kinda just tossing caution the wind, I'm happy the way it came out.  Hell, my OEM fairings had gaps up near the front of the bike from shops taking them off and reinstalling.    I'm taking the tank cover to a painter today, to find out the cost to paint my tank to match it exactly.   Can't imagine it's THAT much, and hopefully the company feels good about refunding my cost of the cover.    

I'll put up some pics to the cover,  so everyone can see.   My guess is maybe they haven't made too many of these, especially since they're not offered with their kit.   They just got this one wrong, but everything else right.  

From conception, to ordering, to custom painting, to installation,  I have to whole heartedly endorse this purchase.    For $400 shipped, without tank cover,  you're gonna be hard pressed to beat it.    Opt-in for the bolt kit,  that should come with it.   Even though I didn't use their bolts ( I went with RED from Pro Bolt), it comes with an assortment of push-pins that work well to tighten everything up.    Don't fall in love with the windscreen,  it's not great and I can't even get it to work at all.    Gonna grab a double bubble, I suppose...    

Are they 100% the same as OEM?  Nope.   But they're every bit of 90% the same.    One little touch I'd like to see them include, is on the fairing mounting points where screws connect plastic to plastic (not frame bolts).  Everything lines up fine, no worries.  But the OEM fairings, have nice metal threads where the bolt screws into.  These do not, however they snugged up just fine.   I'd also like to see them include all of the fairing clips and grommets that I had to convey from the OEM ones.  Time consuming,  and nerve racking as you have to put a fair amount of pressure to get some of these grommets in.   I was so worried about busting off a mounting point.   I think Greg above, noted to use a lubricant.  Take his advice...  

I'll try to answer any questions honestly, and fully.    I know I probably missed some in this thread, since I was banging knuckles, yelling MF'er, snapping pics, and updating here near real-time  as I was installing.   

So, fire away... thanks for following along.   

I didn't think about this before, but your color scheme would be a prime candidate for the clear or smoke version of the turn signal and tail light lenses that Thurn and others sell:

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Yes,  will be a Spring project for sure, now that I have some comfort removing and installing everything.  

Here's the Cliff's Notes version for those not wanting to read 31 pages:

From this to this:  For $399 including custom paint and shipping.    Wheels, seat, exhaust, grips, levers and mirrors,  not included.   :)  Gas tank incomplete at this moment...  

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And a pic of my wife, because she's hot.   Oh, and color scheme based on her home country's flag.     That about sums up the last 31 pages.  

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Here's the Cliff's Notes version for those not wanting to read 31 pages:

From this to this:  For $399 including custom paint and shipping.    Wheels, seat, and exhaust not included.   :)  Gas tank incomplete at this moment...  

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And a pic of my wife, because she's hot.   Oh, and color scheme based on her home country's flag.     That about sums up the last 31 pages.  

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You know, there is a rally in the Spring called TMAC where you can show off your... um ...  assets.

I didn't think about this before, but your color scheme would be a prime candidate for the clear or smoke version of the turn signal and tail light lenses that Thurn and others sell:

I just went and looked at my 07 RWB. Don't all 6th gens come with clear lenses and taillights? Maybe that's an 07 thing? Not sure...bought mine used. The PO may have swapped them out?

Most of what I read on other forums about the tank cover says the same thing: Junk. Not designed well.

I have yet to see fotos of one installed on ANY bike. That's why I was curious to hear what they said about installing it. In my mind, even if it had not cracked/split, I cannot figure out how in the world that thing would have successfully gone on the tank.

On 6th gens, '06 through '09 have clear lenses - '02 through '05 amber.   IIRC, Honda changed the style of the bulb sockets, so there's some finagling required to make the swap. 

THAT is why you have 2748 posts. Nicely done!

I didn't think about this before, but your color scheme would be a prime candidate for the clear or smoke version of the turn signal and tail light lenses that Thurn and others sell:

I just went and looked at my 07 RWB. Don't all 6th gens come with clear lenses and taillights? Maybe that's an 07 thing? Not sure...bought mine used. The PO may have swapped them out?

Most of what I read on other forums about the tank cover says the same thing: Junk. Not designed well.

I have yet to see fotos of one installed on ANY bike. That's why I was curious to hear what they said about installing it. In my mind, even if it had not cracked/split, I cannot figure out how in the world that thing would have successfully gone on the tank.

Yep.   My infinite wisdom was that since the fairings were nice ABS injected, that somehow the tank cover would be.  Never dawned on me that the tank skin would be different,  until someone mentioned a thread a day or two ago.  And actually, that guy's tank cover turned out well.  There's no chance my cover would've fit as well as his did.   I'll put some pics up of tank cover this evening.   It's laughable... 

Talked to painter today, piece of cake.   Just need to figure out how to remove the tank.   Off to search the forum... 

Here's the thread to the semi-succesfull tank cover:

http://www.vfrdiscus...e-6#entry854442

The failure of the tank cover means I won't be ordering a fairing kit.  I had high hopes that the tank cover woes posted the last few years had been remedied.  My plastics are perfect, but I wanted to changes colors.  There's no point in me doing it because I don't want to fool with having the tank painted.  Hopefully in the next year or two they will come up with a way to make a good tank cover. 

The failure of the tank cover means I won't be ordering a fairing kit.  I had high hopes that the tank cover woes posted the last few years had been remedied.  My plastics are perfect, but I wanted to changes colors.  There's no point in me doing it because I don't want to fool with having the tank painted.  Hopefully in the next year or two they will come up with a way to make a good tank cover. 

Yes, that is exactly the point of what a fairing kit with custom paint and matching tank cover could be vs having to have the tank custom painted which could cost as much or more then the entire kit cost.

I haven't spent much time at all with the newer Injection kits tank cover, but after splitting the other tank cover on my old non-injection kit it looked decent installed and matched the kit.

If they could get these tank skins down, it would be a great mod.

Tank cover: non-injection. This kit was 4-5 years old when installed and i was running a mini tank bag that covered the split cover perfectly.  :cool:

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BR

what tank bag is that? 

Tank cover: non-injection. This kit was 4-5 years old when installed and i was running a mini tank bag that covered the split cover perfectly.  :cool:

BR

Do the tank bag magnets do anything on the cover or is the mini bag only held on by a strap?

Tank cover: non-injection. This kit was 4-5 years old when installed and i was running a mini tank bag that covered the split cover perfectly.  :cool:

BR

Do the tank bag magnets do anything on the cover or is the mini bag only held on by a strap?

No magnets work on these, but I Velcro'ed a metal mounting plate right over the split that the bag stuck to.

Don't remember the brand. 

So, I didn't change my mind, it was changed for me.   As it turns out, the tank cover from this particular seller/kit is not of the same ABS injected mold quality as the rest of the fairings.    This piece, is compression molded, and has an incredibly weak seam down the center of it.  It wasn't even close as far as fitment,  the bolt holes nearest the seat didn't line up at all, and the tab that contained  the two most forward bolt holes near the triple tree, broke off completely.   The shell split from the part nearest the seat as well, right up that seam, towards the gas flap hole.      So, I've decided to just paint the tank to match the cover, and ask for a refund of the cover.    If this is the material that older kits were made of,  I can COMPLETELY understand everyone's frustration with installing them.  Good lord, I'd have punched myself repeatedly in the face, if I purchased a full kit made of this material.  

Aww, man - that sucks, VifferCrab! :ohmy:   

Auctmarts - I am disappoint.  :mad:

The rest of it looks great, though! And overall, all the mods you've done look awesome. Once the tank problem is sorted you'll have a real gem.  :fing02:

The failure of the tank cover means I won't be ordering a fairing kit.  I had high hopes that the tank cover woes posted the last few years had been remedied.  My plastics are perfect, but I wanted to changes colors.  There's no point in me doing it because I don't want to fool with having the tank painted.  Hopefully in the next year or two they will come up with a way to make a good tank cover. 

+1 on that, but I'm going to wait on the arrival of thebigtea's set (as mentioned on p23) to see if he has any more success with his tank cover before I write off auctmarts. 

I like the suggestion of warming up the tank cover in a bath of hot water first - but it'll still rely on the quality of the material and manufacturing. From Viffercrab's description it sounds like manufacturing & material quality was sadly lacking on the one he got.

I'm also looking at some of the other vendors of injection-molded fairing sets who list tank covers as an option (a couple of them mentioned in the thread VifferCrab quoted earlier, plus the "advan racing" lot on ebay) - they're generally more expensive than auctmarts, though. I may do some research with those guys as to the method used for manufacturing (injection/compression) and suggested installation method for their tank covers before giving up hope...

OK, now I have to ask since I've seen it a few times.

Injection vs. compression?

Talk amongst yourselves (and let me listen in over your shoulder.)

The last time I looked on eBay, all the tank covers were compression molded, even when the rest of the kit parts were injection.  I wouldn't be surprised if the various ebay vendors are all getting the plastics from the same sources.  Hopefully someone is producing an injection molded cover now or will soon.

Wgret, the compression molded stuff has had poor fitment, brittle tabs, etc.  Injection molded stuff has shown a much better fit and resilient tabs.  Both are ABS plastic.

Plastic geek here - 

Injection molding uses a family of plastics called "thermoplastics" (typically that is, you few magnesium injection weirdos don't count) those are materials that when heated to, or past, a certain temperature will become pliable and be able to 'move' before they actually melt into a smelly pool on the floor.

Compression molding uses a family of plastics called thermosets and those plastics do not move when heated - they just degrade and burn and smell.

 - It is far easier to mold a complex, almost completely spherical shape like a bike tank in the compression process than it would be to make an injection mold for a tank - compression can be done at 1/100 the cost of a collapsing core injection mold.  Compression is far more suited for complex, undercut shapes like a bike tank cover.  Unfortunately, even though Honda's steel tank stamping and welding process is likely repeatable to less than a total of .050" in any direction on the finished tank (and it likely is) I wouldn't even consider a plastic tank cover as there is far more variability in the cover sizing itself - in other words; it ain't never gonna' fit right even if you get it on without breaking.  

A couple have asked, and I've accidentally glossed over it.  No, they never shared tips/tricks for install of the cover.   After it broke, all I was interested in was the refund, so I didn't pursue install tips after that.  And with the 24/48 hour email standard, I wanted to put my refund of the tank cover before anything else. 

The tank cover isn't a deal breaker for many people. Remember, this kit wasn't offered with a cover. I asked them to make me one. I think they know it's not a great solution, but they're also not in the business of turning down money.

Maybe they could've given me a heads up on the difference in quality between their fairing kit and the add-on cover that I purchased, sure.

I don't want to get hung up on the bad fitment of the cover here though. The quality of their fairings is much better than other companies in years past. They're a solid 9/10. Those that are looking for a show bike, or Meecum vehicle, aren't the same people that are budget shopping a set of $400 fairings. Those who were scared or nervous about buying replacement fairings from China, we now have a solid solution for a great price.

The tank cover, while a bummer, shouldn't be a show stopper. Auctmarts is satisfying my request of a full refund of the tank cover. So, can't ask for much more than that. It works out great for me actually, because now I have an exact replica of what I want the painter to do to my metal tank. That's a win.

For those reading along that are putting the tank cover at the top of the checklist, the search continues for you. For those that want an inexpensive replacement fairing solution, at near-OEM quality, plunk down the $399 and have no fear.

YMMV.




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Any read from them whether they can match OEM colors?  For example, if someone tipped their bike on its side and needs a replacement panel, can they provide a good match for the color (maybe give them the Honda color code)?   My guess is 'probably not', but thought I'd ask. 

Any read from them whether they can match OEM colors?  For example, if someone tipped their bike on its side and needs a replacement panel, can they provide a good match for the color (maybe give them the Honda color code)?   My guess is 'probably not', but thought I'd ask. 

I emailed them to ask about matching specific model-year colors (specifically could I get the 2003 Italian red - color code R157 - instead of 2005 Winning red - R258) and their response was that they don't follow specific paint codes for their colors, but if you send them a paint chip they can color match to it. I guess they use one of those scanner/mixer setups like they have in Home Depot... :smile:

So if you have a spare OEM paint chip handy (or can get it from a dealer or catalog) and physically mail it to them, you're good to go. If they are using a scanner setup then I'm not sure you'd get a good match by sending anything electronic that they'd have to print out first, so a physical paint sample seems to be the best way to guarantee the match.

The red stripes on my fairings are VERY close to the color of my tank.   You'd be hard pressed to notice the difference.  Could be because there's so much white between the red pieces though.  If it were an all red kit, I wonder how close it would look next to the tank....

I just ordered a front fairing only from them with the headlight and turn signal holes filled in.  We'll see how that turns out.

As someone that ordered a red set for my 2003 I was told that their red should be very close to the red on my bike. I ordered mine two weeks ago so I think they should be here soon. I will post up pics when they do show up with comparison to my old plastics.

Viffer's experience with the quality has really heightened my anticipation, and I am looking forward to getting mine quite a bit now.

Sweet! With what Viffer said as well, it sounds like it'll be real close. I'm looking forward to you getting yours quite a bit, too.  :goofy:

Working with the seller to find a reasonable outcome for the tank cover. I'll keep my comments to myself; until I get to test their customer service protocols, but other than the cover, most everything buttoned up as OEM plastics would. Taking one of these naked, then back to full dress, isn't for everyone, no doubt

That said, the most work I've done on a motorcycle before this, consisted of air filter changes and scooping up chicks and tossing them in the backseat during beach week in high school.




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You seem reasonable and understanding. Points to you!

The bike looks terrific and they will sell MANY sets to people like me and Polarbear.

I just ordered a front fairing only from them with the headlight and turn signal holes filled in.  We'll see how that turns out.

What model?  5th or 6th gen?  I'm curious about this option too... keep us posted.

I just ordered a front fairing only from them with the headlight and turn signal holes filled in.  We'll see how that turns out.

What model?  5th or 6th gen?  I'm curious about this option too... keep us posted.

PS: What was the pricing for the racetrack style front fairing?

No problem mon.....

It might be your Trinidad and Tobago paint scheme made him think that everyone in the Caribean/USA uses that phrase :-)

Ha! I know, right?

Little tidbit of information that may only interest me.    Before meeting my Trinidadian wife, I thought Jamaica and Trinidad are very similar in culture,  vernacular, phrases, etc...   I couldn't have been more wrong.  They actually sound nothing like each other, Trinidadian's speech is very sing/songish, if that makes sense.   Pitchy, if you will.    And both Jamaicans and Trinis don't like to be compared to each other. They both turn their nose up at the other for some reason.   No clue why.    Trini's actually have a huge British and East Indian and Asian influence, and they're right off the coast of Venezuela, which pumps out the hottest women on the planet.   As you can see by the pics of my wife,  not a bad mix.  :)

We went for Carnival a few years ago and "played mas" and J'ouvert  with these guys...  Good lord...   

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You're welcome.   ;)

Thanks  mon   !!

My updates were starting to lack sizzle... so here.   My wife left me alone tonight and this happened. 

It's about to get realz all up in hurrrrrrrr

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You doing the clear clutch window thing too?

Do I foresee a window to your V4 soul in the near future?!?

BTW... ya Mon, HD a good ting!

That's gonna be awesome...

You should put heavier clutch springs in, while you're in there.

And a new fuel filter, while the tank is off.

Not a bad idea...   Only has 10K miles on it, but as you've seen, I like doing stuff, just to do it.  So, maybe...  Thanks for the input, good stuff. 

If anyone has been trying to order from auctmarts and have not received any order confirmation or answers to their questions in the last few days, I just realized it has been a Chinese Holiday from Oct 1 till today.  

A whole week? That's a hell of a holiday!

A whole week? That's a hell of a holiday!

that is nothing, I get 30+ days paid vacation...

You Euros almost got it made with your long vacations.

Then I remember the taxes, and I feel better.

Re the clutch springs, at least measure them, they wear by shrinking regardless of mileage.

For the exhaust, either fit a smuggler can or make up an under tray section to cover the void, if you are good, it could have an access hatch for storage.

Another thing I notice on your tank, is the bit of foam on one side at the front, did you add that or is it factory ? It blocks one of the air intake areas under the front of the tank.

Also, my viff has the single Two Bros exhaust on the right side. I thought I came across someone mentioning there was a custom rear fairing that "fixed" the left side so it doesn't look like it's missing an exhaust. Is that true or did I misinterpret?

I have called their office in Florida and they can custom manufacture anything. If you give them lots of pics and tell them what you want, they will build it for you. I am thinking along the lines of a fully enclosed tail and putting on a side exhaust like I have seen pics of.

Imagine this with the tail all enclosed without the gaps there right now.

Also, my viff has the single Two Bros exhaust on the right side. I thought I came across someone mentioning there was a custom rear fairing that "fixed" the left side so it doesn't look like it's missing an exhaust. Is that true or did I misinterpret?

I have called their office in Florida and they can custom manufacture anything. If you give them lots of pics and tell them what you want, they will build it for you. I am thinking along the lines of a fully enclosed tail and putting on a side exhaust like I have seen pics of.
 
Imagine this with the tail all enclosed without the gaps there right now.
 

Also, my viff has the single Two Bros exhaust on the right side. I thought I came across someone mentioning there was a custom rear fairing that "fixed" the left side so it doesn't look like it's missing an exhaust. Is that true or did I misinterpret?

I have called their office in Florida and they can custom manufacture anything. If you give them lots of pics and tell them what you want, they will build it for you. I am thinking along the lines of a fully enclosed tail and putting on a side exhaust like I have seen pics of.

Imagine this with the tail all enclosed without the gaps there right now.

Becoming  my  favorite !!

FYI: Auctmarts got back to me. $200 USD shipped for both 6th gen, RWB 07 version, side panels only. They repeatedly asked for me to buy the upper fairing as well (maybe to make sure the paint/striping matches?), but I don't need/want the upper.

I've been licking my chops waiting to see V.C.'s repainted tank and how the whole bike looks once finished! 

I've been licking my chops waiting to see V.C.'s repainted tank and how the whole bike looks once finished! 

pull those baffles man!

Why?

because this bike has the greatest sounding engine ever, and to restrict that sound at all is simply a sin  :491:

i have my baffles out, and they will stay like that till the end of days.

pull those baffles man!

 
Why?

because this bike has the greatest sounding engine ever, and to restrict that sound at all is simply a sin  :491:
 
i have my baffles out, and they will stay like that till the end of days.

 
I have a feeling your neighbors may feel differently.

Note that the OP does.
 
I'm curious, do you feel the same way about the great sound of V-twins when you're stuck behind a dozen H-Ds with open pipes?

pull those baffles man!

 
Why?

because this bike has the greatest sounding engine ever, and to restrict that sound at all is simply a sin  :491:
 
i have my baffles out, and they will stay like that till the end of days.

 
I have a feeling your neighbors may feel differently.

Note that the OP does.
 
I'm curious, do you feel the same way about the great sound of V-twins when you're stuck behind a dozen H-Ds with open pipes?

lets not get us mixed up. i wasn't trying to be rude. just offering my opinion, lol. i never ran mine with the baffles so i wouldn't know the difference. but word on the street is they really aren't that much quieter with them in.  :wheel:

but in response to Rectal:

yes. yes i do. i love engine noise. harley to vfr, they're all fantastic!

people who ride yet complain about loud pipes...... :wacko:

And see? To me, this is the greatest thing about modding vehicles. Everyone's taste is unique. Every single one that I've owned, is different from the rest. Might not always be considered better, per se, by many. But to me, normal is boring. It's kind of a mantra I live my life by. That trickles down to most everything I do, including modding vehicles.

I've also heard the baffles don't make much difference. So, from a purely aesthetic perspective, I like them in. They look like mini jet engine turbines. Different. Cool.


You guys have just "met" me. I'm a different cat. Weird, by many. And I teach my kids to be different, be weird, be unique in everything they do.

/sermon over

Can't wait to get this clutch cover back. Ive got a huge boner thinking about how that's gonna look.


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Figuratively speaking, hopefully...otherwise TMI... LMAO!  Can't wait to see the bike with the clear clutch cover.  I'm thinking that may be my next mod.

in response to Rectal:
 
yes. yes i do. i love engine noise. harley to vfr, they're all fantastic!
 
people who ride yet complain about loud pipes...... :wacko:

Question for the masses...

Tank is buttoned up, everything connected, I think. ;)

Zero fuel in the tank. I turn the key, hoping to hear the injectors prime. Nothing, nada... No noise. Battery good, electrics work. Could this be because the clutch cover is off, or will it not prime the injectors if it detects zero fuel? Or, did I miss a connection, which seems unlikely.....


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Question for the masses...

Tank is buttoned up, everything connected, I think. ;)

Zero fuel in the tank. I turn the key, hoping to hear the injectors prime. Nothing, nada... No noise. Battery good, electrics work. Could this be because the clutch cover is off, or will it not prime the injectors if it detects zero fuel? Or, did I miss a connection, which seems unlikely.....


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Turn your kill switch on.

Question for the masses...
Tank is buttoned up, everything connected, I think. ;)
Zero fuel in the tank. I turn the key, hoping to hear the injectors prime. Nothing, nada... No noise. Battery good, electrics work. Could this be because the clutch cover is off, or will it not prime the injectors if it detects zero fuel? Or, did I miss a connection, which seems unlikely.....
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Turn your kill switch on.

Okay, let's just file this one away as....
Wow. I'm dumb.
Nothing to see here... Move along.
Good grief, that is embarrassing.
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It's even more fun when you hit that switch while riding. I went to adjust the brake span and clipped the switch, had a WTF moment as all power was gone and the FI light came on. Realised my error pretty quickly before I lost too much speed!


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Try hitting the kill switch while riding in a parking lot in a sharp turn... that'll get your attention!  

Question for the masses...
Tank is buttoned up, everything connected, I think. ;)
Zero fuel in the tank. I turn the key, hoping to hear the injectors prime. Nothing, nada... No noise. Battery good, electrics work. Could this be because the clutch cover is off, or will it not prime the injectors if it detects zero fuel? Or, did I miss a connection, which seems unlikely.....
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Turn your kill switch on.

Okay, let's just file this one away as....
Wow. I'm dumb.
Nothing to see here... Move along.
Good grief, that is embarrassing.
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You're not the first and will not be the last. I've "fixed" a few customers bikes by either flipping the kill switch or putting fuel in them.

Camera.... Not on a tripod or anything.... Just iPhone angled with quick pic. Bike on side stand too....


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Here's a freehand overhead... Pretty close for not having the bike during paint. I dropped off a loose tank...

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What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I'm thinking that's just glare and not damaged paint.

To the OP, paint scheme looks great!

It's even more fun when you hit that switch while riding. I went to adjust the brake span and clipped the switch, had a WTF moment as all power was gone and the FI light came on. Realised my error pretty quickly before I lost too much speed!


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Camera.... Not on a tripod or anything.... Just iPhone angled with quick pic. Bike on side stand too....


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Here's a freehand overhead... Pretty close for not having the bike during paint. I dropped off a loose tank...

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What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I just kept licking that area until the paint faded...

What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I'm thinking that's just glare and not damaged paint.

To the OP, paint scheme looks great!

Thank you sir....   

The CF filler protector makes perfect sense there.  Looks really great - can't wait to see some proper side shots.

A friend of mine saw the pics last night and is very impressed.  Can't lose for the price.  Though he, being an experienced wrench, did say it would be interesting to see how it holds up to a year or two of UV and weather exposure.

Camera.... Not on a tripod or anything.... Just iPhone angled with quick pic. Bike on side stand too....


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Here's a freehand overhead... Pretty close for not having the bike during paint. I dropped off a loose tank...

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What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I just kept licking that area until the paint faded...

What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I'm thinking that's just glare and not damaged paint.

To the OP, paint scheme looks great!

Thank you sir....   

Now we need a few action shots so we can see what it looks like goin' down the road! 

The CF filler protector makes perfect sense there.  Looks really great - can't wait to see some proper side shots.

A friend of mine saw the pics last night and is very impressed.  Can't lose for the price.  Though he, being an experienced wrench, did say it would be interesting to see how it holds up to a year or two of UV and weather exposure.

Yeah, I suppose over time, weather may affect it more than OEM.   I'll never know... it'll stay garaged during my ownership unless being driven in dry weather.    However, I did go over the whole bike with a compliment of my pro detailing products that offer UV protection.   I only question how it holds up in the heat of summer, and the radiators on the side.   The kit came with heat shielding so that's in place....  time will tell 

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Here's a freehand overhead... Pretty close for not having the bike during paint. I dropped off a loose tank...

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What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I just kept licking that area until the paint faded...

What happened to the seat cowl? Mice eat the paint?

I'm thinking that's just glare and not damaged paint.

To the OP, paint scheme looks great!

Thank you sir....   

Now we need a few action shots so we can see what it looks like goin' down the road! 

Nobody wants that more than me.    Waiting on powder and the parts to come back home to mamma....  

And OH!   I took someone's advice here and used plasti-dip on the inside of the OEM windscreen.  Turned out pretty well actually.    I need to polish the outside of the windscreen to bring some of the shine out, but it was in rough shape when I got it.   It wasn't garaged by the previous owner, you can tell.   I'll take care of that, while I wait on the clutch cover to come back...  Pics to come of that..

Found the first thing negative to report.....

As I reported, the free windscreen included didn't seem particularly impressive in neither fit, nor quality.   It also seemed to direct air directly at my head, causing a bit of turbulence at speed.  So, with the advice of a member here, I decided to plastidip the inside of the OEM windscreen.   The outside  of the windscreen looked every bit of 13 years old, with oxidation, built up grime etc.   So, I decided to use 0000 steel wool on both sides before plastidip, knowing I'd have to polish the outside once done.    The process turned out well, actually, but I still need to polish the outside with my buffer, just haven't done it yet.  It'll give me something to do while I wait on my clutch cover.    However,  what I thought was poor fitment of the free windscreen, I now believe to be a slight difference in gap between the two most top points of the nose fairing.    Even the OEM screen has a small gap at the exact spot the freebie screen had.     It's easily corrected with a small shim, but thought it worth a mention...

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Or  heatgun  and a little pressure .

Yeah, I  actually thought of that.  Could you imagine if I accidentally cracked that part though?  I'd be sick to my stomach, after all of this.   A little piece of cut vacuum line or rubber grommet wedged behind the screen does the trick.   Can't even see it...

Looks good. I like the baffles in the pipes.

Looks like missiles ready to launch if any tailgaters.  :beer:

Looks good. I like the baffles in the pipes.

Looks like missiles ready to launch if any tailgaters.  :beer:

That's exactly what I love about this exhaust, other than the glorious sound it puts out.   They look really friggin cool from behind, with the baffles in... 

Wow,   no offense but if you say you are just a little anal retentive, you will have no argument from me.....

many :goofy:

I will gladly put redslut in your hands to correct all the little nooks and crannies she has...... :beer:

HAHA, yeah... with project vehicles like this one, and a few of my cars, I get a bit particular with them.    But honestly, that's what I love about it.   Before this build, I really had no emotional connection with the bike.    That's no longer the case.    Didn't even have to spend that much to get in the game, didn't really spend too much on personalizing it,  and now I have a connection with it.   Money well spent.... 

My neighbors really teased me for years when I they saw I had one of the cars on lift stands, wheels removed, and I was cleaning the braking components with a toothbrush.   The car was headed to a show that weekend, so I really went at it.   :)

It was the Supecars on State Street show in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania in 2012.   Car looks different now, but you get the idea... 

Stick around for the end of the video....   :)

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I have read thorugh almost all 40+ pages of this thread. I only have 1 negative comment. 

I love the bike and the paint scheme. I am in the middle of collecting parts for a similar build myself. Your build gives me something to keep me motivated.

The only bad comment I have about your bike are the Driven D3 grips are garbage. They will wear out in less than a season. and you wont be able to remove them without cutting the metal collars in half with a dremel. I have owned 2 sets of them, And both had to be cut off. The collars, over time, will lock the grips in place. I tried to remove them with WD-40 and air and the grips twisted and tore in half right at the metal collar.  I learned the hard way that $50 grips makes no sense.

I also forgot to add that the red will fade into pink with relatively little use. The anodized layer is very thin.  

I have read thorugh almost all 40+ pages of this thread. I only have 1 negative comment. 

I love the bike and the paint scheme. I am in the middle of collecting parts for a similar build myself. Your build gives me something to keep me motivated.

The only bad comment I have about your bike are the Driven D3 grips are garbage. They will wear out in less than a season. and you wont be able to remove them without cutting the metal collars in half with a dremel. I have owned 2 sets of them, And both had to be cut off. The collars, over time, will lock the grips in place. I tried to remove them with WD-40 and air and the grips twisted and tore in half right at the metal collar.  I learned the hard way that $50 grips makes no sense.

I also forgot to add that the red will fade into pink with relatively little use. The anodized layer is very thin.  

The grips and ends have been great so far.  Totally eliminated vibration and look great to me.  The red is still red after about 2000 miles.    If your first ones were garbage and a pain to remove, I'm wondering why you purchased a second set? 

If these end up not holding up, I'll replace them with something else.   $50 per season seems reasonable to me, if it ends up being that.   No worries... 

It has been quite a few pages since we got a picture of your lovely wife did we not?  :unsure:

(yes it is getting evening here, yes it is raining and yes I need a beer :goofy: )

Keep up the good work!

I have read thorugh almost all 40+ pages of this thread. I only have 1 negative comment. 

I love the bike and the paint scheme. I am in the middle of collecting parts for a similar build myself. Your build gives me something to keep me motivated.

The only bad comment I have about your bike are the Driven D3 grips are garbage. They will wear out in less than a season. and you wont be able to remove them without cutting the metal collars in half with a dremel. I have owned 2 sets of them, And both had to be cut off. The collars, over time, will lock the grips in place. I tried to remove them with WD-40 and air and the grips twisted and tore in half right at the metal collar.  I learned the hard way that $50 grips makes no sense.

I also forgot to add that the red will fade into pink with relatively little use. The anodized layer is very thin.  

The grips and ends have been great so far.  Totally eliminated vibration and look great to me.  The red is still red after about 2000 miles.    If your first ones were garbage and a pain to remove, I'm wondering why you purchased a second set? 

If these end up not holding up, I'll replace them with something else.   $50 per season seems reasonable to me, if it ends up being that.   No worries... 

I bought the 2nd set thinking maybe something was wrong with the earlier batch, plus i think they look really good. But I ride all year, and those grips just could not keep up.

It has been quite a few pages since we got a picture of your lovely wife did we not?  :unsure:
 
 
(yes it is getting evening here, yes it is raining and yes I need a beer :goofy: )
 
 
Keep up the good work!

I have read thorugh almost all 40+ pages of this thread. I only have 1 negative comment. 
I love the bike and the paint scheme. I am in the middle of collecting parts for a similar build myself. Your build gives me something to keep me motivated.
 
The only bad comment I have about your bike are the Driven D3 grips are garbage. They will wear out in less than a season. and you wont be able to remove them without cutting the metal collars in half with a dremel. I have owned 2 sets of them, And both had to be cut off. The collars, over time, will lock the grips in place. I tried to remove them with WD-40 and air and the grips twisted and tore in half right at the metal collar.  I learned the hard way that $50 grips makes no sense.
I also forgot to add that the red will fade into pink with relatively little use. The anodized layer is very thin.  

 
 
The grips and ends have been great so far.  Totally eliminated vibration and look great to me.  The red is still red after about 2000 miles.    If your first ones were garbage and a pain to remove, I'm wondering why you purchased a second set? 
 
If these end up not holding up, I'll replace them with something else.   $50 per season seems reasonable to me, if it ends up being that.   No worries... 
 

 
I bought the 2nd set thinking maybe something was wrong with the earlier batch, plus i think they look really good. But I ride all year, and those grips just could not keep up.

Love the Europa at the 2:41 mark in the video.  The twin cam special version of the Europa is one of the most underappreciated sports cars of all times IMO.  How much did that last 15 seconds cost you in rubber?  Thanks for the video!

Love the Europa at the 2:41 mark in the video.  The twin cam special version of the Europa is one of the most underappreciated sports cars of all times IMO.  How much did that last 15 seconds cost you in rubber?  Thanks for the video!

Viffercrab, any suggestions for good rides through Maryland? I'm getting awfully bored with Catoctin. Your bike is gorgeous! I work in Frederick and would love to check it out sometime.

sorry to hear about the grips. I switched to progrip 719s and they feel pretty good, but the fit was REAL tight on the left clip-on.

Also I would love to know about some new roads in maryland. I am in damascus. I am real familiar with 108, and 650 and most of the various small one lane roads off those routes. 

I put oem 900RR grips on everything now, including the bicycle. Love them. And they're cheap to boot!

14 hours ago, Hosspower

Viffercrab, any suggestions for good rides through Maryland? I'm getting awfully bored with Catoctin. Your bike is gorgeous! I work in Frederick and would love to check it out sometime.

Where in the Frederick area is your office?   I'm buzzing around there ALL the time.   

Sure,  I'm in Catoctin area pretty much every time I ride.   It's very cool to go past Camp David entrance, stop and see if you can people rustled up back there.   :)

If you head out towards Boonsboro and pick up Rt34 towards Shepardstown, WV then down to Harper's Ferry and circle back to Frederick, it'a real pretty ride....

You should also check out the Frederick County covered bridges loop... there's 3 or 4 of em, all connected by some pretty nice, albeit slower, twisties.   

9 hours ago, fonque

sorry to hear about the grips. I switched to progrip 719s and they feel pretty good, but the fit was REAL tight on the left clip-on.

Also I would love to know about some new roads in maryland. I am in damascus. I am real familiar with 108, and 650 and most of the various small one lane roads off those routes. 

The answer for you is Catoctin Mountain Park.    Rt550, and Rt77  are sublime...  

I am at the Ford and Subaru dealer off the Golden Mile.

Been through Catoctin a lot over the past few weeks. My travels have taken me all over that area and into Pennsylvania. It doesn't matter where I'm going but it seems like I always hit 550 and 77 coming from my house in Carroll County. I have not tried out a Harpers Ferry run yet, although I was down in Jefferson and Burkittsville a couple of times in the past few days. Regarding the bridges' loop, I've heard others talk about it but have not tried that yet either. I'll get the loop from one of the Harley guys.

Thanks and hope to see you around.

Rob

Hosspower I am at the Ford and Subaru dealer off the Golden Mile.

Been through Catoctin a lot over the past few weeks. My travels have taken me all over that area and into Pennsylvania. It doesn't matter where I'm going but it seems like I always hit 550 and 77 coming from my house in Carroll County. I have not tried out a Harpers Ferry run yet, although I was down in Jefferson and Burkittsville a couple of times in the past few days. Regarding the bridges' loop, I've heard others talk about it but have not tried that yet either. I'll get the loop from one of the Harley guys.

Thanks and hope to see you around.

Rob

SEBSPEED I put oem 900RR grips on everything now, including the bicycle. Love them. And they're cheap to boot!

I just found the guy at dutrows last week.  He does seem to be about the only guy around that knows much about our bikes. You should be pretty easy to identify on your bike, I look forward to flipping you off. 

im looking to buy a house around lake lignanore. I like that area.

There are not many VFR owners in the area, I have only seen 4 in the last 5 years. 

fonque im looking to buy a house around lake lignanore. I like that area.

There are not many VFR owners in the area, I have only seen 4 in the last 5 years. 

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Did your kit come with all the right mounts?  I'm trying to put the tail light back on the rear cowl.  Unfortunately, I'm missing the threaded part that accepts the screw (#21 above).  It isn't listed as a separate part, probably because it is a part of the rear cowl.  The nut clips (#20) that accept the other bolts (#21) were easy to transfer over, but I don't think I can move the other one.  I may use self-tapping screws such as found on the front turn signals.  Did yours come with the right parts, or did you improvise?

Switchblade, 9/13/2016 at 7:45 AM

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I will take pics when the bike is in one piece.  My pics won't look any different than what I already posted. 

Off topic (kinda) question:

I recently picked up a couple extra motorcycles, and have kind of developed a crush on one of them in particular, a Ninja ZX6R 636.    I wasn't supposed to like this ZX6, but I do for some reason.  I bought it as a small project bike,  at a very good price.   My thinking was it was something to keep me busy over the winter, ripping it apart and making it like new, or better than new, as in the case of my VFR, then selling it in the spring.    However, the wife is now very much ready to not be a pillion anymore, and she's ready to be a pilot.   Since my love affair with the VFR was hugely fueled by all of the 2-up riding with the Missus,  it seems that may not be happening that frequently, come Spring time.    If that's the case,  there's few times I'd choose the VFR over the 636 mountain carver, which is was most of my riding involves.

That's a very round about way of saying that I'm having thoughts of selling the Viffercrab 800!   I think most people who followed this great build from inception to completion,  are probably already VFR owners and wouldn't be interested, but I dunno.   I also have mixed emotions about it, because it's a stunner, and a conversation starter everywhere I take it.   Something I put a lot of love and busted knuckles into,  and with my narcissistic and needy personality, I love it when that happens.  :)

What does the membership here think the machine is worth.   There's enough info in here to know how meticulous I was during the build but some other things to note would be that it would come with:

All of the OEM Italian Red fairings.  No cracks, but some minor scuffing  (Proves that it wasn't a rebuild due to accident)

BRAND new front/rear Qualifier Q3 tires

Can be sold with or without the Sargent seat

8 spoke rear

Delkevic carbon fiber exhaust

Fender eliminator

+2 Vortex rear sprocket (throws speedo off about 8%)

D.I.D. chain

Fresh Amsoil change

ummmmmm, what else....

It's nearly flawless.  Hell, I'm not even sure there's a spec of dirt on it to be honest.  

OOOOOH!   And something i like to call the "little porthole of orgasmic visual spinning thingy" most commonly referred to as the Sebspeed custom clear clutch cover.    EVERY single VFR owner should do this.   I can't tell you how often I get asked about it.

I basically replaced or upgraded most every single part of the outward facing parts of the bike.   It starts and runs flawlessly.    Hell, it only has 14,500 (ish) miles

Oh, and also have the stock rear wheel, and OEM exhaust.  

Again, not sure this forum would be my target audience, since most here are already blessed with a VFR of their own.  But I'm very much confused on what it'd be worth to someone.    This doesn't strike me as a Craigslist bike,  since I think that's a place for when you're ready to sell at wholesale or for when you're really looking for a quick flip.   This is not that type of bike.   Or maybe I just think that because I'm emotionally invested in it, and it's really only metal and plastic to whomever the new owner would be.  

So this very long winded question is:  Any thoughts from the very smart people here of what this thing is worth, in real American dollars?     I'm all ears...

Thanks gents...  

There's already a crapload of pics in this thread, here's the latest one posted a page or two ago.   I have 1.2 million more pics of it, if it's really needed. 

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I had a, '03 636 for a bit as a track bike. Turned out I was an idiot to think I could trust a guy I knew because it needed a transmission rebuild and a head rebuild. But it was a great learning experience! I split the cases to fix the trans and also did a head swap from an '05. I thought it was a great track bike, but on the street it felt like sitting on a stack of 2X4s. Very hard, and wanted to tip over. 

KevCarver I had a, '03 636 for a bit as a track bike. Turned out I was an idiot to think I could trust a guy I knew because it needed a transmission rebuild and a head rebuild. But it was a great learning experience! I split the cases to fix the trans and also did a head swap from an '05. I thought it was a great track bike, but on the street it felt like sitting on a stack of 2X4s. Very hard, and wanted to tip over. 

I've put about 200 miles on this 2006 636, and I really like it. Has some miles, but runs smooth as butter. Maybe it's because I have a smaller frame, but it just seems to feel more like a tool, than the VFR. I absolutely adore my Viffer, especially for 2-up, but I can't keep buying bikes and not sell any. Decisions....

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VifferCrabI can't keep buying bikes and not sell any.