Well I cut one of the OEM filters apart the other day and found what appears to be a substandard overall product. While I am sure it works well - it appears more cheaply made (cardboard endcaps etc..) than the $3 Walmart filters.
Incidentally I found that the filter for a turbocharged Subaru Baja happens to be identical in all dimentions - but their filter is better constructed.
I think I will start using major brand filters from now on. The Honda one is not worth $15 in my opinion.
RSTAsoldier, Jun 13 2005, 06:05 PMWell I cut one of the OEM filters apart the other day and found what appears to be a substandard overall product. While I am sure it works well - it appears more cheaply made (cardboard endcaps etc..) than the $3 Walmart filters.
Good to know. I think I'm going to switch to the K&N filter. That's what I've been using in my cars and trucks.
Interesting, here all along I was under the impression that OEM filters were of higher quality than most readily available ones, such as Fram, Mobil, Bosch, etc. I was concerned with using a Hi-Flo oil filter (made by K&N) during break-in because of it being less quality than Honda's $10 filter.
Somebody on here said that Mazda Miatta's have the identical filter as our viffers, and that the Honda filter is actually cross-referenced in some catalogs to the Miatta's. This might be the filter to use over the Subaru one! I wonder though, could there be any differences in construction of these Honda filters over these car ones? For example, could the motorcycle oil effect the filter material differently on the car filters, and could the difference in oil pressures have any effect either? Do alot of viffer owners use these cars filters reguraly without any problems?
I believe the M-108 oil filter is also used on the Mazda Miata. No, the quality is not any less with automotive applications, and yes, a number of members use the "automotive" filters on their bikes with no problems whatsover. Sounds like the Honda oil filter is made a lot like a Fram.... :o :(
I went with a Scotts filter. It has a machined brushed aluminum case. It has a surgical grade stainless mesh with the ability to trap some really small stuff. It also incorporates a high strength magnet to pre filter the bigger stuff. I t is very easy to clean and has a super high flow rate. Kinda pricy at $119.00, but top quality. Check out scottsperformance.com
ROD, Jun 13 2005, 01:02 PMI went with a Scotts filter. It has a machined brushed aluminum case. It has a surgical grade stainless mesh with the ability to trap some really small stuff. It also incorporates a high strength magnet to pre filter the bigger stuff. I t is very easy to clean and has a super high flow rate. Kinda pricy at $119.00, but top quality. Check out scottsperformance.com
My bro uses one of these on his 600RR and loves it. I just have a problem shelling out $120 for one. That is 12 oil changes for me, or 36,000 miles! :o
Ah, this is what I should have read yesterday. I backed off from getting the $12 K&N, and just put on the Honda OEM that I had.
But, I know for next time.
With my oil looking so clean after 3000 miles, I'm not too worried.
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Wow, i just went and looked at those Scotts filters. I am a total materials and CNC whore. I want one just for the bling factor! I remember a friend getting a Scotts steering damper for his KTM, and just fondling it for 10 minutes. Thye make some sweet schwag.
I use Mobil 1 # M-110, its idintical to the M-108 except longer, more capasity. I like Mobil 1 filters cause they use synthetic media which is more efficient than paper / cellulose media.
Stinkbait, Jun 13 2005, 02:37 PMI use Mobil 1 # M-110, its idintical to the M-108 except longer, more capasity. I like Mobil 1 filters cause they use synthetic media which is more efficient than paper / cellulose media.
What year is your bike? I take it you don't have any clearance issues with the M-110 hitting the exhaust... Some people on here have claimed that the M-110 touches the exhaust. Not good. :blink:
The M 110 Mobile filters are good, much better than the OEM Honda filters but if you want one that filters even better get the Purolator Pure One PL14610.
well i had to say something on this one i went with the scotts , look you guys want only the best for your viffer stop draggin and get a filter that really protects the heart of your bike its lifes blood if you will! you want cardboard filtering your motor oil ? i think not ! i would rather spend the money and have the piece of mind that my oil filter can keep up with the performance and temps and not restrict the flow of oil during startup on cold days or extremely hot ones paper viffer not me ,not me!!! :D
I called a riding buddy who used to be a service manager for a local Honda dealer (now partner for Suzuki/Ducati) He told me that one of the problems with non-OEM is that their flow rate is different from Honda's. He highly recommended the OEM. He used to get bikes in the had not used orig. filters and had had problems (can't remember what sort of fixin' was needed)
DEZLPWR, Jun 13 2005, 09:47 PMWhat year is your bike?� I take it you don't have any clearance issues with the M-110 hitting the exhaust...� Some people on here have claimed that the M-110 touches the exhaust.� Not good.� :blink:
Its a 2000. It doesn't touch anything. :thumbsup:
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