Bike protection.........

I had a scare two nights ago. A couple of guys were attempting to steal my motorcycle from my apt. complex at 1am. They had the cover removed and were standing over the bike, when luckily, our security company was driving by. The guys sped off and a chase ensued. They were not caught, but still makes you sick. I have a Kryptonite rotor lockand keep it covered and it may have slowed them down. I also came across this video....
http://www.engadget.com/common/videos/pt/lock.wmv

And now I am wondering, if there is no option of a garage, what do you guys do?




Sorry for posting in Mods, but I think it is the most viewed, and the most clever of the bunch.

That's an interesting bit of info on the Kryptonite

Adam30, Nov 11 2005, 10:37 AMThat's an interesting bit of info on the Kryptonite

I actually just went out and tried it on mine, I have the Evolution [small]"U" shaped disc lock. And it did not seem to work. Very hard to get the end of the pen in there, I actually had to stretch the end of the pen to get it close. So maybe it is limited to certain locks.

Crooks are going to be crooks, Locks only keep honest men honest. If a thief wants something bad enough, they will get it. All you can do is have good insurance and lock it to the best of your ability. Maybe even invest in a decent alarm for your bike, sounds corny, but they work. If I am going to be gone for an extend period of time and have to leave my bike, I follow this procedure;
1. Lock the front wheel to the forks so that it cant be rolled.
2. lock the rear wheel to the cross brace of the center stand so that the rear wheel cant be rolled and the centerstand can't fold up.
3. Put the cover on and lock the two little connection rings together so that the cover can't be removed.
4. Then lock the front wheel to the front wheel of my car. This makes the bike a part of my renters insurance policy and therefore would have a 0 deductible if it was taken.
Hope you don't have to deal with that again.

Adam30, Nov 11 2005, 08:37 AMThat's an interesting bit of info on the Kryptonite

The new Kryptonite locks cannot be opened with a bic pen.

Kryptonite replaced my old EV Disk lock with a new one for free. beer.gif

Kryptonite replaced my old EV Disk lock with a new one for free. beer.gif

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What's the best way to do that? Call or email?

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Kryptonite replaced my old EV Disk lock with a new one for free. beer.gif

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What's the best way to do that? Call or email?

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Go to their website. They have a whole section for the lock exchange. You will fill in some data and they will provide you with a shipping label to send your old lock back. Then you will be shipped the new improved lock.

I was suprised how fast the new one came after I sent my old one. New one came within a week.

Thumbs up to Kryptonite for stepping up and doing the right thing. fing02.gif

There was a news story locally here in San Francisco, From what i understand Kryptonite will replace you lock for free, but i'm not sure which models

Let me shout praises for Kryptonite----the new locks can't be picked by a BIC----and,

They REPLACED my 20 YEAR OLD U-locks for FREE!! earlier this year, to include the shipping of the old and new ones. Every company should be as good.

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benvfr, Nov 11 2005, 08:29 AMAnd now I am wondering, if there is no option of a garage, what do you guys do?

Either put the bike in doors or hang a sign on it... for sale cheap--I took Trace's advice
and I blew the engine... 8-)
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Use the Islamic approach and strap an explosive belt around the bike wired to a motion detector but be sure to turn it off before uncovering yourself.

BusyLittleShop, Nov 11 2005, 02:12 PM[image: user posted image]

I'm betting that the next morning when the housekeeper came in to change bedding she had and interesting thought!!! Assumeing that's a motel anyway. What did the manager have to say about it, I can only imagine "so let me get this straight, you want to rid eyour bike in my hotel room? are you one of those new fangled STUNT riders?". Good stuff!! fing02.gif

I use one of these:

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It's a Cobralinks. It weighs a hearty 15 pounds or so. The real "Monster Cable".
It was the most massive thing I could find at the time. Very tough against brute force attempts. A review said it took them about 9 hours with a grinder. The manufacturer recently went out of business. Sad to see the "last true American made" lock company disappear. Wrapped around one of the support posts for my apartment building it seems reasonably secure, but like another member noted, locks only keep honest men honest. I'm hoping that this extreme quality lock will discourage all but the most determined.

There are, of course other approaches to deterring theft........

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BusyLittleShop, I also have a photo of my VFR in a motel room from 6/05. I was in the end room, first floor, closest to the highway and there was absolutely no way I was leaving that thing out there for quick pickin'. - especially the way I sleep. I'll have to dig it up and post. Normally my security system is my garage and my S&W 44 Magnum. ...Do you feel lucky punk? Well do ya?

Insurance ! unsure.gif

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...topic=11516&hl=
Good s#!t!

+ You can get them, that is to say there's no back orders. Knee draggers.com

I can't speak for the Kryptonite lock people but Marriott called and they want their pen back.

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I have a disc brake lock as well. Unfortunately having worked with kids from the jail, I know that all locks can be opened. So - I bring my bike in the house. That is until I get the shed/garage finished. And then he'll be out there. Good luck! And pay extra for the insurance.

hawglet, Nov 11 2005, 02:36 PM What did the manager have to say about it

I don't know... I never asked...

Laguna Seca Motel 2000...
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Thanks for ruining my eyes Avid One. That pink thing is sooooo ugly. blink.gif

VFR4Lee, Nov 12 2005, 04:46 AMThanks for ruining my eyes Avid One. That pink thing is sooooo ugly.  blink.gif

Sorry, but no discussion on security is complete without mention of that most effective alternative to locks. In fact I believe it might scare away pets and small children as well.

BusyLittleShop, Nov 11 2005, 11:24 PMI don't know... I never asked...

Laguna Seca Motel 2000...
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there is love and well there is true love! goofy.gif
my wife says i'm a little nuts about my bike but i keep telling her that its my first bike bla bla bela
but man i never brought it into the bead room!
but now that you mention it,
"hay baby wana go for a ride!" goofy.gif

according to my friend NICK!
there is no real way to stop these scum buckets from taking your bike.
He's seen guys actually pick up a bike and walk away with it!
but come monday i'll aks him what he thinks about this.
he use to work with alot of shifty guys and i'm sure he knows the best way to keep ones bike safe.
But i have a feeling that he's going to say some thing to the effect
carry a big gun and park it in the house.

shahram177, Nov 12 2005, 04:52 PMHe's seen guys actually pick up a bike and walk away with it!

Hey, finally a reason to rejoice at the VFR's extra weight. I think I'll add another 100 Lbs idea3.gif !!

ABUS (a German company) makes several types of chains / cables for motorcycle security with locks that are extremely hard to pick. The cables are supposed to be resistant to bolt cutters. Here is a link to the one I use. It is a bit large, but fits well in my Ventura luggage.



http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLang=...=4003318100222m

Ok, here it is. I admit I'm another over protective VFR parent that won't let his motorcycle go on any excursions without me. First level room, on the end closest to the highway, and I sleep like a bear in mid winter. I thought about tieing a rope from the bars to my feet but decided that would be considered excessive.
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Hotel Security I would like to see you pick this lock with a bic pen.




Of course you can tell this is a high end joint by the lamp cord discretely hidden in the chain and that fantastic paneling job.

Gypsy, Nov 11 2005, 10:15 PMI have a disc brake lock as well.  Unfortunately having worked with kids from the jail, I know that all locks can be opened. So - I bring my bike in the house.  That is until I get the shed/garage finished.  And then he'll be out there.  Good luck!  And pay extra for the insurance.

Yup! If someone wants something, bad enough, they'll get it. In the aspect of cost effectiveness and what-not, These things are the ticket. (Aside of insurance). But at least you have a busted-up bike to say to the insurance co., "Hey! Look at what they did!"

I too have a Kryptonite rotor lock. Thinking of getting a visual deterring alarm that makes some noise though. Can never be too careful now days. Cheers! -Dave

I have a scratched-up, fairing-less beater with a disc lock and one of those day-glo orange warning cords.

chris2992, Nov 11 2005, 10:50 AMCrooks are going to be crooks, Locks only keep honest men honest. If a thief wants something bad enough, they will get it. All you can do is have good insurance and lock it to the best of your ability. Maybe even invest in a decent alarm for your bike, sounds corny, but they work. If I am going to be gone for an extend period of time and have to leave my bike, I follow this procedure;
1. Lock the front wheel to the forks so that it cant be rolled.
2. lock the rear wheel to the cross brace of the center stand so that the rear wheel cant be rolled and the centerstand can't fold up.
3. Put the cover on and lock the two little connection rings together so that the cover can't be removed.
4. Then lock the front wheel to the front wheel of my car. This makes the bike a part of my renters insurance policy and therefore would have a 0 deductible if it was taken.
Hope you don't have to deal with that again.

Sorry, but I think you are way off base on point #4. If you can get that position from your insurance agent in writing, I'd be very surprised. In my opinion there is no way you can cover the theft of your motorcycle on your renters policy even if you put it in your car or bedroom. The policy ordinarily insures your personal property (excluding watercraft, motorcycles, and autos, among other things) and your personal liability.

McCleod, Dec 10 2005, 06:23 PMSorry, but I think you are way off base on point #4. If you can get that position from your insurance agent in writing, I'd be very surprised. In my opinion there is no way you can cover the theft of your motorcycle on your renters policy even if you put it in your car or bedroom. The policy ordinarily insures your personal property (excluding watercraft, motorcycles, and autos, among other things) and your personal liability.

Have it in writing, as long as my car and bike are in my apartment parking lot, they are golden. But this is just on top of my motorcycle full coverage and my Vehicle Full Coverage. So I'm right on base, well maybe a small lead off. 491.gif

chris2992, Dec 10 2005, 11:33 PMHave it in writing, as long as my car and bike are in my apartment parking lot, they are golden. But this is just on top of my motorcycle full coverage and my Vehicle Full Coverage. So I'm right on base, well maybe a small lead off.  491.gif

Good for you. Glad you have it nailed down.

The mailman, Nov 13 2005, 06:54 PM...and I sleep like a bear in mid winter. I thought about tieing a rope from the bars to my feet but decided that would be considered excessive.

Yeah, that's the problem. A bud and I locked up our bikes, each with Gorilla alarms, at a Bike Rally awhile ago. They were right outside the door of the room - six feet away from the closest bed (his), three feet from the window. Our neighbours said that the alarms went off all night whenever a straight pipe Harley/Clone rode by. DIDN'T HEAR A THING...

I've seen more than one person tie a line from the bike into the motel room. One guy tied off to his big toe - missing bike, missing toe! 491.gif A better method is to tie-off to a lamp at the edge of a table...