OK, I've been running my mouth about this project, but I've been gathering parts.
So far:
1. 1986 VF1000R motor, supposedly in good shape (I never really trust that statement, it will get freshened prior to start-up).
2. 1997 VFR frame (thanks to our member base). with gas tank.
3. 2000 RC51 front end with 2005 front wheel.
4. 1992 VFR swingarm.
5. 2000 RC51 shock with the infamous Ohlins spring. Turns out it is short and only 17kg/mm, but its OK.
6. 2005 VFR rear wheel. Yes, I know, it will be clearanced before mounting.
7. Everything else. CBR1000RR radiator (?), gauges of some brand, clip-ons, and all the rest. Wiring and its associated nightmares last.
Body coming, complete RC211V replica fromTyga. I will PROBABLY run the tail exhaust and right side exhaust.
Tonight, first small victory. I placed the frame over the motor and it fit. Mounting points are pretty close. Working with board member Jim for bolts (trading parts is so much fun).
[image: gallery_293_3378_170214.jpg] Side view, motor just setting in frame at this time.
Placed the swingarm on the frame and ran the pivot bolt through. Looked up the sprocket along the rubber rub strip, and guess what, pointed pretty much right at the drive sprocket. YES. fing02.gif
[image: gallery_293_3378_13493.jpg] End View
Small victory number one. Now I just need to get the frame mounted to the motor as it sits. yes, It will take a little work, but it looks like at least 2 of the 4 frame bolts will line up. the most seriups offender being the front. it will definitely need it own mount.
Tune in for the next installment, she get a tail, complete with carbon rear subframe.
Larry VFRwalker, but I'm deadly on these buildups.
Keep those parts coming.
BTW, still got a dynamite chrome 3rd gen wheel set available. And I'm getting hungry. PM me if you're interesed ASAP.
Two, I had one left from a previous transaction. In short, the buyer backed out after the deal was agreed on and I never felt it Ebaying it again. So now Im using it to the best advanatge. I know, if you don't use it in a year, sell or trash it. Just can't break the habit.
Stay tune to this Bat Channel for further developments. Can't wait for the body to get here, but Thailand is a long way away.
Already contacted him. Wanted to Buy It Now and fly up (about 80 miles from my corporate offices) and drive it back. He's balking at taking it to meet me at the Honda dealer for a checkup prior to 1650 miles to home. Something's wrong I fear. Haven't heard from him since.
767Fixer,
Having a little trouble finding that perfect 5th cylinder. That would make it a 1250cc. Maybe I'll stick with a 1000cc V4. Besides, what would I do with 270HP anyway?
Update: Tail is on the way. Intail exhaust will probably be a cut down standard can. If that will not work, will be going with shotgun exhaust on the left.
Been looking at the front fairing. Found a local source for a carbon CBR600RR that looks more like the RC211V than Tyga's kit. Inquiry in now for complete front fairing out of carbon. Uses CBR600RR fairing stay and headlights. And since its already been done here, installation should be a snap (or was that crack and pop).
Already contacted him. Wanted to Buy It Now and fly up (about 80 miles from my corporate offices) and drive it back. He's balking at taking it to meet me at the Honda dealer for a checkup prior to 1650 miles to home. Something's wrong I fear. Haven't heard from him since.
If I were a little closer I'd offer to have a look-see for you, but I've got my baby-squid every day I'm not working this week. Oneonta isn't all that far from Binghamton at all. It's tempting me too, since I've got a real soft spot for the big VFkR, but no money and too many projects are conspiring against me.
vfrrider, Oct 2 2007, 01:57 AMI know, if you don't use it in a year, sell or trash it. Just can't break the habit.
Really? I'm in serious trouble, then... unsure.gif
Massive, crazy project, gotta love it. Gimme a holler if you can't find a bolt or something like that. (Not to mention a dimension off a fork or swingarm...) I bought several loads of "all the bolts, etc." from various parted-out Hondas last year. It's a good way to never run out of fairing bolts!
vfrrider, Oct 2 2007, 06:04 PMUpdate: Tail is on the way. Intail exhaust will probably be a cut down standard can. If that will not work, will be going with shotgun exhaust on the left.
Been looking at the front fairing. Found a local source for a carbon CBR600RR that looks more like the RC211V than Tyga's kit. Inquiry in now for complete front fairing out of carbon. Uses CBR600RR fairing stay and headlights. And since its already been done here, installation should be a snap (or was that crack and pop).
Larry VFRrider
Definately keep updating us on the bodywork. I'm really interested in this particular section!!!!!
Chev, Oct 2 2007, 06:30 PMSpeaking of bolts...... I bought a box of VF1000R engine bolts off ebay earlier this year. Let me know if you need somethiing. fing02.gif
Chev,
OH, I see now. Now that I ran poor old SA3713 (Jim, big thanks) all over the place with trades and parts, you volunteer parts. Sure send me all the engine mounting bolts, from the crossbolt to all 3 side bolts (each side).
BTW, since you volunteered. Have any idea how to plumb the oil cooler up. There are cast in holes waiting to be tapped, but is that all I need to do? Which is high side?
Anyone else want to volunteer anything? Maybe a hoist to pict up this lump so I can mount the front and back end and wheels and roll it around? If you're close that is?
vfrrider, Oct 2 2007, 01:57 AMI know, if you don't use it in a year, sell or trash it. Just can't break the habit.
Really? I'm in serious trouble, then... unsure.gif
Massive, crazy project, gotta love it. Gimme a holler if you can't find a bolt or something like that. (Not to mention a dimension off a fork or swingarm...) I bought several loads of "all the bolts, etc." from various parted-out Hondas last year. It's a good way to never run out of fairing bolts!
Ciao,
JZH,
Got tired of always looking for fairing quick connect fasteners, finally found a source for Dzus fasteners at the MC parts house. I'll get the number and post them. They APPEAR identical, complete with back halves, if needed.
Yea, Little Elm is SOOOO far away. Oh, don't worry, I'll let you know when the wiring begins. I have all the parts (I think) but I will need help to make sure its all connected correctly. I don't like Mr. Hondas wiring jobs.
vfrrider, Oct 2 2007, 12:57 PMBTW, since you volunteered. Have any idea how to plumb the oil cooler up. There are cast in holes waiting to be tapped, but is that all I need to do? Which is high side?
IIRC, VF1000RS added an oil cooler to his. Maybe search his posts or PM him.
(waitaminute)
Oh yeah, here it is, prolly not as much info as you would like, I think you're going to need more 411:
whipping boy, Oct 4 2007, 12:51 AMLarry, what kind of power are you thinking you're going to get from the 1k? What kind of weight penalty are you paying for the larger motor?
Stock the VF1KR was 122 at the rear wheels (?). If I take it to a expert, 140 is easy. But the torque is massive.
Weight penalty, I doubt it. Neither is svelte.
Exhaust sound, unbelievable.
It will be a monster. Yes, I know, the CBR1000RR has more HP, lighter, etc, etc.
BUT ITS NOT A V4.
BTW, got the CBR1000RR radiator in tonight. Looks about the same width as the frame. We'll see.
tyrroneous, Oct 2 2007, 12:11 PMMan, between this thread, the Hossack VFR thread, and the Torocharger thread, VFRd has been a goldmine of VFR modification info. fing02.gif
Keep the updates coming!! lurk.gif
Wait, what Hossack vfr thread? Where, I really have to do something about this modification addiction.
tyrroneous, Oct 2 2007, 12:11 PMMan, between this thread, the Hossack VFR thread, and the Torocharger thread, VFRd has been a goldmine of VFR modification info. fing02.gif
Keep the updates coming!! lurk.gif
Wait, what Hossack vfr thread? Where, I really have to do something about this modification addiction.
Yea, Little Elm is SOOOO far away. Oh, don't worry, I'll let you know when the wiring begins. I have all the parts (I think) but I will need help to make sure its all connected correctly. I don't like Mr. Hondas wiring jobs.
Larry VFRrider HRC Skunkworks, southern division.
Yup, I even know where Dallas is...saw it on a map once. I think if you take the blue road and go up and then over, you get to Little Elm. Anytime you want to work on the wiring give me a shout.
whipping boy, Oct 4 2007, 12:51 AMLarry, what kind of power are you thinking you're going to get from the 1k? What kind of weight penalty are you paying for the larger motor?
Stock the VF1KR was 122 at the rear wheels (?). If I take it to a expert, 140 is easy. But the torque is massive.
Weight penalty, I doubt it. Neither is svelte.
Exhaust sound, unbelievable.
It will be a monster. Yes, I know, the CBR1000RR has more HP, lighter, etc, etc.
BUT ITS NOT A V4.
BTW, got the CBR1000RR radiator in tonight. Looks about the same width as the frame. We'll see.
Larry Something wicked this way comes.
That kinda HP might make this thing relevant...I can't wait to hear this thing howl.
Chev, Oct 2 2007, 06:30 PMSpeaking of bolts...... I bought a box of VF1000R engine bolts off ebay earlier this year. Let me know if you need somethiing. fing02.gif
OH, I see now. Now that I ran poor old SA3713 (Jim, big thanks) all over the place with trades and parts, you volunteer parts. Sure send me all the engine mounting bolts, from the crossbolt to all 3 side bolts (each side).
BTW, since you volunteered. Have any idea how to plumb the oil cooler up. There are cast in holes waiting to be tapped, but is that all I need to do? Which is high side?
I checked my box this weekend Larry, and no mounting bolts. All I have are case covers and inward.
I couldn't tell you about the oil cooler, I didn't think we had one at all on the 1000R. Or are wanting supplimental cooling?
Chev, Oct 8 2007, 05:43 PMI couldn't tell you about the oil cooler, I didn't think we had one at all on the 1000R. Or are wanting supplimental cooling?
You have to drill and tap the block. There are apparently some blank spots in the casting where an oil cooler would connect.
Thanks VF1000RS for the tip on the oil cooler and plumbing.
Help, Fastguyeddy has pointed out a little hitch in attaching a 3rd gen shock linkage to a 4th gen frame. I need a pic or drawing of the whole installation down there for clarification, preferabley both side and top/bottom views of the 4th gen shock attachment.
Its starting to look like a GP bike in my garage. In pieces, but there somewhere.
Larry VFRrider
Something wicked this way comes, a little closer.
how well does the subframe bolt up?
i demand pictures
Waht pics, this is all just smoke and mirrors.
Actually, the rear subframe is on order. That is, the 1.5" carbon angle and the .030 carbon plate for panels are on order. With a little PROBABLY Devcon 2 part epoxy, a few drill bits, some aircraft stainless rivets, I'll make my own. Fitting the tail to the frame to the tank now. Looks like a little mods are in order on the engine to frame fitment also. The right side gear case is larger on the VF1000R than the VFR. I'll have to trim and regusset the frame ears as they stick down to get the engine all the way in. The side to side is fine.
Pics as I actually accomplish something.
Geez, Eddy is SO impatient.
Dahm, missed a really good deal on some carbon fairings this week. But my local dealer has started his own mfgr and will hook my up next month. So no shipping costs, but local taxes.
Larry VFRrider
Something wicked this way comes, slowly, but it is coming.
No pics, hunting the illusive CBR600RR fairng front end, 2005. THOUGHT I had a carbon one, but he only has the top, no sides, bottom. Seems Seb just posted he has a front end in his garage, we'll see.
Frame news. Have to do some clearnace cutting for the right engine case. Trying to see if I can do it inside the frame only, maybe, but doubtful. The engineeer in me says I'll have to go back and reinforce the area, probably both sides.
Working on the front fairing some I can do mounts, etc. Anyone got a CBR1000RR gauge set they'll part with reasonable?
Pics soon. Stay posted, BIG garage sale soon, maybe a few 3rd gen rear wheels.
Larry VFRrider
This working is cutting inito my modding time. Taking off next week to finish the 93, work on the frame.
I saw those, and the Veypor unit. They look pretty small. Still holding out for a CBR1000RR unit, if I can afford one.
My local Honda dealer called me last night and their aftermarket division is up and running and he is getting me a quote for a 2005 CBR600RR fairing kit, in carbon and fiberglass. He wants me to get it fully painted from him, so I sent him a pic of Nicky RC. We'll see. Oppracing makes a great looking setup, $1400 in carbin, about $700 in fiberglass.
This would all be so easy, if only I did not have to work and had an unlimited budget.
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