Mod: Lobster's Mirror Extenders

Well,.............

I'm still waiting on paint to dry and my LEDs, BUT,...

1) Sanded down to the plastic. Sanded through the bolt holes, facing fwd. (for light defusion).

2) Drilled one .325" hole, .250" deep, .500", forward from the rear bolt hole. (Placing it back of the center of the extender).

3) Drilled two .250" holes, from the .325" hole, at two different depths and angles, (eyeballed), but trying to get the shorter hole, slightly more forward, than the longer hole.

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4) Sanded those holes.

5) PAINT PREP. Sand every surface with 400 grit. Tape the areas that will show light. ( I'm letting light through on 70%, of the bottom side, and 40%, on the top.) Trim the tape. Plug the holes.

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6) Two coats of silver plastic paint, (for reflection), five coats of black primer, (to capture any light wanting to escape).

7) After cure, carefully remove the tape. Coat with six coats of matte clear. Let cure. Retape the light showing areas, slightly shy of where the blcak edges are. (No need to trim the tape, this time). Coat with two coats of clear. This should help protect the black edge from chipping-up,when bugs and desbris hit it.

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...............................preview,.....more to come.

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Group Buy...

Oh I should have said... OH DAMN I WANT ONE...

Very Cool!! Mmmm yellow LED's hehe. Is the mirror extender cast or a chunk of acrylic?

That what we need, some nice innovative stuff. Although I already thought of that idea, can't prove it though. smile.gif . I thought that maybe leaving it clear all the way aroung would have worked too. What about yellow superbrights? Drill around 10 five mm holes for LEDs, silicone them in, make an identical thin backing plate mirror acrylic, for the wiring, and polish all around. Make it a 1/4 clearance and 3/4 blinker light output. Damn, I have enough projects. Let's see them on the bike.

Damn you Trav... stop building stuff I want to buy wink.gif

Go ahead and put me on the list for a set in black

Oooooh....pretty lights. Are they just running lights? Or are you going to mod them for turn signals as well? And, most importantly, how much for a pair? fing02.gif

JOHN800, Jan 23 2007, 03:42 PMI thought that maybe leaving it clear all the way aroung would have worked too.

Yeah, but it would be distracting for the rider (if used for indicators) or not good for your night vision if used as pilot lights.

thereisnospoon, Jan 22 2007, 09:38 PMVery Cool!! Mmmm yellow LED's hehe. Is the mirror extender cast or a chunk of acrylic?

vanion2, Jan 22 2007, 09:57 PMOooooh....pretty lights. Are they just running lights? Or are you going to mod them for turn signals as well? And, most importantly, how much for a pair? fing02.gif

Got yellow and orange leds on order. Figured orange,in the long drill holes,as running lights. Andyellow in the short one as signal.
They are acryic.

SORRY. NOT IN PRODUCTION. My hands are full, now.

enzed_viffer, Jan 22 2007, 10:07 PM

JOHN800, Jan 23 2007, 03:42 PMI thought that maybe leaving it clear all the way aroung would have worked too.

Yeah, but it would be distracting for the rider (if used for indicators) or not good for your night vision if used as pilot lights.

Ding! We have a winner!

Still considering drilling a series of small holes, through out the light visable areas, (and perhaps a flat clear on the same areas).

Good stuff! fing02.gif
Make sure you keep us up with the play, Riv!

Seeing them mounted on the bike, it looks like black might blend a little easier. Either way, very cool and functional idea. Great work! fing02.gif

Very interesting. I have the same mirror extenders, and plenty of LEDs sitting around from my other projects. I may have to copy your idea before you patent it. 491.gif

Yet another awesome project by the riv fing02.gif Now would they work well enough as signals to replace the dumbo ears on the 5th gen? idea3.gif Or am I 3 steps behind as usual

CLEAN....black WOULD look good................ fing02.gif

thereisnospoon, Jan 22 2007, 09:38 PMVery Cool!! Mmmm yellow LED's hehe. Is the mirror extender cast or a chunk of acrylic?

Spoon,

1.5" clear acrylic. I made about 40 sets for 5th and 6th gen bikes for folks here on the forum. I think it's a nice addition as you can see behind you MUCH better. There's nothing fancy about them. If you can find the acrylic, some longer metric bolts and you have access to a bandsaw and a sander, you too can make them without much trouble. I think even GenMar sells them for about $60 / pair.

Black and frosted it is. Give Lobster your hard earned cash, as gen-mars, aren't clear and cost more. fing02.gif Love 'ya Larry. Thanks for the exhaust hook-up.

Larry,
I would still like a set.

Travis, I hate you for making yet another thing I want to put on my bike. Damn you, will you stop and go rest or something!!!!!!!!


Later,
Jeff

STILL waiting on my damn leds. I should have just made some. pissed.gif

Lobster, Jan 23 2007, 08:28 AM

thereisnospoon, Jan 22 2007, 09:38 PMVery Cool!! Mmmm yellow LED's hehe. Is the mirror extender cast or a chunk of acrylic?

Spoon,

1.5" clear acrylic. I made about 40 sets for 5th and 6th gen bikes for folks here on the forum. I think it's a nice addition as you can see behind you MUCH better. There's nothing fancy about them. If you can find the acrylic, some longer metric bolts and you have access to a bandsaw and a sander, you too can make them without much trouble. I think even GenMar sells them for about $60 / pair.

Are you saying you have some for a 6th Gen (w/o lights)? If so, I'll take a set please. I'll PM you for details.

Cheers,
didit

Lobster, Jan 23 2007, 08:28 AM1.5" clear acrylic. I made about 40 sets for 5th and 6th gen bikes for folks here on the forum. I think it's a nice addition as you can see behind you MUCH better. There's nothing fancy about them. If you can find the acrylic, some longer metric bolts and you have access to a bandsaw and a sander, you too can make them without much trouble. I think even GenMar sells them for about $60 / pair.

Shoot, I think I have some of this out in the garage... idea3.gif

biggrin.gif Do you have pics of these install and blinkin in a low light'd room?

Bigbear75, Mar 1 2007, 01:36 AM biggrin.gif Do you have pics of these install and blinkin in a low light'd room?

He!!, I'll post video, when I can get the damn LEDs!

This is a how too. It's up to you to mod them. Otherwise We're gonna charge an arm and a leg. LOL. Business ventures have a way of screwing-up friendships. Not look'n for that. So,... Send Lobster $$. LOL.

im actually a bit confused on who has or is making these lol but i want some in black please fing02.gif

OMG, people, he just said this is a "how-to", in other words make your own...

Order them from Lobster and follow Riv's how-to. Then you'll have exactly what Riv described earlier on. fing02.gif

theoxmole, Mar 1 2007, 10:04 PMOrder them from Lobster and follow Riv's how-to. Then you'll have exactly what Riv described earlier on. fing02.gif

thank you for clearing that up with out being condescending fing02.gif

Bump. DING!

http://media.putfile.com/Lobmod

Rivcyko, Mar 10 2007, 10:53 PMBump. DING!

http://media.putfile.com/Lobmod

Nice! Who needs air fresheners? goofy.gif "eau de cycle" (oh the cycle?) fing02.gif

Love the video!! Damn those lit up extenders look great. Bike sounds awesome as well. fing02.gif

Rivcyko, Mar 10 2007, 07:53 PMBump. DING!

http://media.putfile.com/Lobmod

Dude, Looks Sweet. Although with the LED's, if you installa Load Equalizer
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from autolumination.com

It will slow down the flash rate. The Flasher send out more power then the LED's need so they flash fast cause too much juice.

Just a thought, looks great though. Good work

Bigbear75, Mar 10 2007, 11:37 PM

Rivcyko, Mar 10 2007, 07:53 PMBump. DING!

http://media.putfile.com/Lobmod

Dude, Looks Sweet. Although with the LED's, if you installa Load Equalizer
[image: load_equalizer.jpg]
from autolumination.com

It will slow down the flash rate. The Flasher send out more power then the LED's need so they flash fast cause too much juice.

Just a thought, looks great though. Good work

I noticed the fast flash rate as well. It might draw more attention - but the faster flash rate is actually NOT LEGAL. Flash rates are determined and set to a specific flash rate. Might draw attention from the local "Award Distribution" network....... rolleyes.gif

SEBSPEED, Mar 10 2007, 11:05 PM

Rivcyko, Mar 10 2007, 10:53 PMBump. DING!

http://media.putfile.com/Lobmod

Nice! Who needs air fresheners? goofy.gif "eau de cycle" (oh the cycle?) fing02.gif

Ventilation system running. fing02.gif

Kanadian Ken, Mar 10 2007, 11:33 PMLove the video!! Damn those lit up extenders look great. Bike sounds awesome as well. fing02.gif

Tanks!

Bigbear75, Mar 10 2007, 11:37 PM

Rivcyko, Mar 10 2007, 07:53 PMBump. DING!

http://media.putfile.com/Lobmod

Dude, Looks Sweet. Although with the LED's, if you installa Load Equalizer
[image: load_equalizer.jpg]
from autolumination.com

It will slow down the flash rate. The Flasher send out more power then the LED's need so they flash fast cause too much juice.

Just a thought, looks great though. Good work

HA! Got you. It has an adjustable, that I put in the place of the stock flasher. Windscreen, off, all there is to do is pop the tabs out, on the dash cover, and the adjuster is right there.

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"Anything worth do, is worth doing well"- Hunter S. Thompson

Still. Thanks for the concern. I had already questioned the forum, and did my homework. fing02.gif But again, thanks for look'n out!!

This is why VFRD rules.

--------------------CONTINUATION OF MOD---------------------------

Wahted, for 2 months for LEDS. Radioshack, (in this area), has not what I was look'n for. I ordered "Pilot" single Leds. (Singles). They are set-up for a 12v system, with resistors, in line, shrink wrapped, with 1.5' of wire. (Plug-n-go). What I got was some crap that had a micro chip, in line, up at the led. (wasn't going to fit).

So,.....I cut them up, slodered the wire directly to the led, and put the, "chip", in line, at the connector.

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The pic shows; 1) The leds in. 2) The double taped fairing, marked, pilot drilled, then drilled with a 3/8" drill. (Note how the placement of the hole is set more toward the back mounting hole. This matches the extender and provides clearance of the bracket, that supports the fairing, from underneath). 3) Plugged into the wireing harness. (Note: Be sure you have marked which line is you signal led, and your running light led). The colors to hook to are different on either side of the bike. An easy way to remember what's what, is this,.....Green is ground,(on the outside, of the plug. The middle wire, (regardless of color), is your rinning light, and the other outside wire is your flasher.

I twisted, folded, and soldered, the wire ends, then just pushed them into the back of the connector.

I DO NOT SUGGEST THIS MOD AS PRIMARY LIGHTING, ON 5th GEN., DE-DUMBO EARED, unless you come up with large leds, or parking light replacement leds.

The fact of the matter is they are of relative brightness, dusk till dawn, but direct sunlight, shine right through the acrylic, making the leds, not visable.

Here is a calculator to help, with brighter leds.

http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz

Get creative, folks. There are countless ways you can configure these.

Rivcyko,
In appreciation and anticipation, I would like to ask (for the electrically inept like me) if you could add a quick little bit on the best
how and where to wire up the LED's. Ordered my set from Lobster and wanting to do the same set up.

The video was a great and really sets the front off nicely - anything for better visability without gaudy is aces!
Thanks again for the great ingenuity and offerings to the rest of us out here who glom off your creativity.


EDIT: uh, never mind and thanks for the above. I should have waited 1 more minute.

Rivcyko, Mar 11 2007, 12:01 AMHA! Got you. It has an adjustable, that I put in the place of the stock flasher. Windscreen, off, all there is to do is pop the tabs out, on the dash cover, and the adjuster is right there.


"Anything worth do, is worth doing well"- Hunter S. Thompson

Still. Thanks for the concern. I had already questioned the forum, and did my homework. fing02.gif But again, thanks for look'n out!!

This is why VFRD rules.

Where did you get this flash rate adjuster? That could come in very useful when I change all of my turn signal lights to LEDs. Thanks!

BTW, great job on the mirror extenders!

angst, Mar 25 2007, 01:22 PM

Rivcyko, Mar 11 2007, 12:01 AMHA! Got you. It has an adjustable, that I put in the place of the stock flasher. Windscreen, off, all there is to do is pop the tabs out, on the dash cover, and the adjuster is right there.


"Anything worth do, is worth doing well"- Hunter S. Thompson

Still. Thanks for the concern. I had already questioned the forum, and did my homework. fing02.gif But again, thanks for look'n out!!

This is why VFRD rules.

Where did you get this flash rate adjuster? That could come in very useful when I change all of my turn signal lights to LEDs. Thanks!

BTW, great job on the mirror extenders!

Thanx!
http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_flasher.htm

Rivcyko, Mar 25 2007, 12:35 PM

angst, Mar 25 2007, 01:22 PM

Rivcyko, Mar 11 2007, 12:01 AMHA! Got you. It has an adjustable, that I put in the place of the stock flasher. Windscreen, off, all there is to do is pop the tabs out, on the dash cover, and the adjuster is right there.


"Anything worth do, is worth doing well"- Hunter S. Thompson

Still. Thanks for the concern. I had already questioned the forum, and did my homework. fing02.gif But again, thanks for look'n out!!

This is why VFRD rules.

Where did you get this flash rate adjuster? That could come in very useful when I change all of my turn signal lights to LEDs. Thanks!

BTW, great job on the mirror extenders!

Thanx!
http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_flasher.htm

Thanks! I just ordered an adjuster fing02.gif

Per extender thread;

Higgin, Feb 2 2008, 04:03 PMThanks for the link. That was before my time here on VFRD. I do really like the idea though. I was thinking about doing the mirrors with signals built in, but I like this idea better. I think I'll have to give it a try sometime soon. Unless I missed it in that link, i didn't see what kind of leds you used, or where they came from. Any extra info would be awesome! Thanks!

And thanks for the mirror extenders, Lobster. I bought an extra set for my friends' 6th gen and put them on as a surprise. He is super happy with them, and so am I. Altho, being super happy with them when its icy and 0 dergrees out involves sitting on our bikes in the garage making VROOOM VROOOM sounds and being able to see the garage door and not my elbows. laugh.gif Nice product!

I used "Street glow" brand singles. Resistor in line. (Didn't want to screw up and have them burn out, after a week). Not the brightest. More of a dusk to dawn accent, mod. (Every bit helps).

OMG! I don't know how I missed this mod....I've got to have widget!! 491.gif I thought this post was about one of our members making extenders the old way for members....till I desided to check today to see what all the hub hub/chatt was about. Great idea and job. Anyone know or find out for sure these will work with the soon to be avalible "Darth Bling GSXR mirror mounts" and his after market mirrors?
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...c=39029&hl=
If so anyone want to purchase a pair of the old style extenders...cheap? idea3.gif

That video link doesn't work. Anyone have a updated one?

offtopic.gif Now I feel like I have to spend some time and read all the VFRD posts to see what else I may be missing/ widgets I don't need but got ta have. goofy.gif

edit... warranty.gif just read the entire post..this is a DIY project ? LOL I don't have the time...anyone making these in the near future?

Joe Foe from Buffalo, Feb 3 2008, 10:39 AMOMG! I don't know how I missed this mod....I've got to have widget!! 491.gif I thought this post was about one of our members making extenders the old way for members....till I desided to check today to see what all the hub hub/chatt was about. Great idea and job. Anyone know or find out for sure these will work with the soon to be avalible "Darth Bling GSXR mirror mounts" and his after market mirrors?
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...c=39029&hl=
If so anyone want to purchase a pair of the old style extenders...cheap? idea3.gif

That video link doesn't work. Anyone have a updated one?

offtopic.gif Now I feel like I have to spend some time and read all the VFRD posts to see what else I may be missing/ widgets I don't need but got ta have. goofy.gif

edit... warranty.gif just read the entire post..this is a DIY project ? LOL I don't have the time...anyone making these in the near future?

Travis (Rivcyko) is the only one who made a lighted pair, that I am aware of. PM him for more info. He used a set of my extenders and worked from there, so if you have a pair of extenders, he might be able to mod them for you. He does good work and he's a good guy, so give him a shot. He truly will not let you down.

My extenders can not be converted since they are solid black like these.
http://www.1cruiser.com/sa/cart/detail.asp...3-DD3EDEAE6602}
I'll wait and see if (Rivcyko) desides to make them for members or if anyone else wants to. I'm in no hurry. Thank you for the reply though Lobster.

New link. For some reason the old one was deleted due to inappropriate content. LOL. blink.gif

http://media.putfile.com/lobmod-2

Don't forget, the new ones will have the bonding line. I posted as a mod. I'm not in a financial position to buy supplies, up front, to do them. These leds are kind of hard to come by. You'll have too drill the holes in the upper faring and hook them up, anyway. I guess, if you really, really, really, want me to do them, I can. I will ask for the supplies be paid for, then sent to me. $15.00 per pair, (boils down to $5.00hr), + shipping.

Blinky blinky.... wheel.gif squid.gif I like them! As long as some one steps up and knows for sure they work with the ""Darth Bling GSXR mirror mounts" and his after market mirrors the way you modified these I would be more then happy to send you a pair with supplies and pay you...if some one posted all needed and If can find them all and or pay your fair price for all if your offering a package deal price up front for them. fing02.gif Do you take PayPal?

Darth Bling, Jan 22 2008, 01:34 AMThe DB mounts are compatible with Lobster's mirror extenders. All you will need to do is drill a third hole through the extender so you can run the turn signal wires from the mirrors to the bike. The shape of the DB mounts are virtually identical to the OEM mounts. While I cannot guarantee the DB mounts will be a dead on balls accurate (an industry term), I believe you will be very please with how they integrate with the Lobster extenders. fing02.gif

FYI...

SEBSPEEDSo, in looking at the model, there doesn't seem to be a hole for the wires to pass through? Are they going to have to be routed around on the outside of the base, or did I miss something?

Look closer!

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I will be providing hollow bolts that will allow you to run the wires through the bolt down into the base and out that third hole.

veefer800canuckGood question. There should be a hole I would think. Hide the wires and all that.

But I haven't looked at a set of Gixxer mirrors up close and personal yet to see how Suzuki accomplishes the wiring.

These two pictures should help:

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bittwiddlerDoes anyone have a wiring diagram to show how I could hook these up in conjunction with the existing blinkers? I guess I would need a set of diodes in there?

Diodes? It depends...

According to the wiring diagram, the left front blinker has green, orange, and orange/white wires and the right front blinker is green, light blue, and light blue/white wires. The green wires are ground, and the wires with the white stripe are the turn signal wires. The solid colored orange and blue wires are running light wires.

You can either tap into the green and white-striped wires and have your mirrors act just like your turn signals. If you do this, I believe you'll need to do something since your turn signals will flash slower. Alternatively, if you replace the bulbs in the mirrors with LEDs (less resistance), you won't need any diodes.

Or, you can wire them up to the green and non-striped wires and they will act as running lights (They will flashes backwards from the turn signals since Honda wire up the left switch pod on the VFR to deactivate the running lights when the turn signals flash.) This way won't require diodes.

I don't see why not. (I can hook-up the hole).

What I'm concernd about is if the mirrors wires will interfear with the LED's in the extenders in such a way they will look silly.

Leds are in front of the center line. fing02.gif

The Next Generation. I'll post more later.

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Should have done all yellow,....but I didn't have all yellow. biggrin.gif

http://media.putfile.com/secondgen

These look really good... Just one more thing on my list of wants...

Did the addition speed the rate of flash up? If so, is there a way to slow it back down?

I have an adjustable flasher. I have it at the rate I like, and the cops haven't harassed me,......yet.