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6th Gen Exhaust on a 5th Gen

50 posts Started 22 Nov 2005 Last recovered post 25 Nov 2005 Wayback Machine snapshot 21 Feb 2006

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Well, I�m well into the first of my winter projects. I �bought� a 6th gen pipe and mufflers from a buddy here in town (a case of good local microbrew made it happen) and eyeballed the potential for fitment on my 5th gen. As you�d guess, a great deal of tail sub-frame and plastic modding would be necessary to make such a wide exhaust system fit, besides the fact that the stock 6th gen system is pretty heavy.

I looked a bit harder and lo and behold, the 6th gen mufflers are symmetrical. So I cut them both free and started grinding the mounting and heat shield bracketry off, allowing me a better idea of what might be possible.

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The up-pipe from the headers was a no-brainer to use, going up and under the seat as on the 6th gen. The �only� thing I had to do to proceed was reassure myself that the muffler would fit under the seat and leave compression clearance for the tire with my pillion aboard (this proved to be a major difficulty).

After a quick test-fit it was apparent that a single 6th gen muffler exiting just under the trailing edge of the taillights would look extremely cool. Time to go to work.

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I started by pulling everything out from under the seat, including the ecm. Then I went after the undertray with a bare hacksaw blade (works better than anything else I�ve tried), removing bits and pieces to allow the muffler to ride as high as possible.

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With a solder gun I plastic-welded the undertray back together as neatly as possible, creating a very flat bottom surface along with two mounting recesses for the pre-existing heat-shield mounting tabs to slide into. This provided a good way to locate (but not permanently secure) the muffler while I continued to eyeball things. The ecm now resides where the tool kit was and the tool kit gets scrunched in beside it.

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I was a bit concerned about flow restriction and power loss through just one 6th gen muffler, so I drilled out the two inner chamber walls in a honeycomb pattern and opened the entry hole wider to free up breathing. So far so good.

It was obvious early on that I wasn�t going to like the look of the license plate tacked on beneath the muffler, so I thought, �Why not use some of the waste undertray plastic to make mounting tabs for the plate and stick it out at a 45 degree angle just past the muffler exits?� The plate now partially hides the muffler but I like the way it came together and I�m still able to use the Lite N� Boltz I bought for my fenderectomy.

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Then trouble struck. I needed a shakedown ride to check tire clearance and decided to go to my favorite muffler shop and have my buddy Kasey look at my work and see about welding in the connection from the up-pipe to the muffler. (You should�ve seen the looks on the faces of everyone around the shop when they heard the viffer with no muffler; even Kasey�s jaw dropped� and he owns the shop!) I was tempted to forget the whole muffler idea and go straight-pipe, and it sure didn�t help my resolve to use the 6th gen muffler that even the short ride to the shop had left scuff marks from the tire on the muffler... riding solo. Crap!

So I went back home and cut the muffler in half to see if I could still use it. Turns out most of the sound deadening takes place in the back end of the muffler, which is good. I went ahead and shortened up the works by about six inches and stuffed the front chamber full of stainless steel wool.

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Then I re-welded the end-cap (entry end) to the muffler, at the same time flattening the bottom front end to match the contour of the tire for even more clearance. At this point I was out of welding rod and my wire-feed welder is terrible on thin pipe, but I used it anyway so the welds are pretty ugly where no one will ever see them. Oh well�

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Tomorrow I�ll get the connector pipe welded in, then I�ll pull the completed system off and paint just the muffler with flat red Flame-Proof paint. I�ll post up pictures of the completed project in a day or two after the paint cures. beer.gif
#2
Wow, you don't have any fear at all, do you? fing02.gif

I was sort of wondering the same thing these past few weeks, but I was kinda leaning toward more of the ENTIRE 6th gen rear subframe/plastic/exhaust-onto-a-5th-gen kind of mod. I've got to eyeball a 6th gen next to mine and see what would be the potential hangups or brick walls to such a thing.

What are you going to do about the plate being in the way of the end of the can? Make a couple of 45' turndown exits or something?
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veefer800canuck, Nov 22 2005, 01:24 AMWhat are you going to do about the plate being in the way of the end of the can? Make a couple of 45' turndown exits or something?


Thanks for the support!

Oddly enough it was precisely the idea of using the whole 6th gen rear end that got me started. But when I started looking at subframe mounting locations and seat-to-tank fit I realized just how insane that project would be. Pre-kudos to you if you tackle that one!! (Besides, I'll only have about $70 into this whole project when I'm done!)

As far as the license plate, I think I'll just ride it without the turndowns for a few short trips and see how much heat develops under the plate and tail lens assembly at idle. I could either protect the underside with a bit more heat-shield mat or go with the turndowns. We'll see. There's plenty of room between the exits and the plate right now for unrestricted exit (about 1 1/2"), so no problem there.
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Good stuff Magellan beer.gif Just curious, did you ever consider a CBR exhaust? Either 1000 or 600?
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Sweet! That's pretty similar to what I did with my V&H can. I ended up fabbing the up-pipe as well. I like the outcome. Good job. fing02.gif
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Good work Magellan..
This may be one of those 2 AM "drunken guy at the bar" questions, but in the close-up of your half cut exhaust and the tag mounted, why is the exhaust that white color? I notice the welding marks, so I know this is the undercover of the exhaust with chrome pieces uninstalled. Can you enlighten such a confused soul?? heh.. Thanks..

Michael


...wasn't sure if it had something to do with the welding process and how the "sheet of white" was obtained... or....was it some type of primer you applied since you are planning on repainting, that is, to keep from rusting... <My guess>
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Looks like you're losing some suspension travel there (?). Will the rear wheel strike the exhaust given a good bump and a pillion?
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imortlfool, Nov 22 2005, 12:37 PMGood stuff Magellan  Just curious, did you ever consider a CBR exhaust? Either 1000 or 600?

No, actually... I was fixated on the 6th gen VFR pipe (a friend offered his unused stocker cheap). Maybe I should have looked at other options, but I'm really happy with the result. smile.gif

Ratfink, you were one of my inspirations, bro. Thanks!

VolatileVFR, the white is FlameProof primer (handles 1200 degrees F!), which I'll follow with flat red. Awesome stuff, but you really have to make sure it cures well.

imortlfool, Nov 22 2005, 12:37 PMLooks like you're losing some suspension travel there (?).  Will the rear wheel strike the exhaust given a good bump and a pillion?


At the exhaust shop this morning I had a 200 Lb guy on back with me while we bounced the bike. Still had 1/2" clearance to the muffler, and that's with minimal rear preload. It was a major concern for me too... unsure.gif

Update to follow.
#9
magellan

The exaust looks awesome, but can you post sound as well?
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I went to the exhaust shop this morning and had the connection from the up-pipe to the muffler welded in and clearances ckecked. Less than an hour and I was out the door.

For good reason, Kasey at the shop was worried about heat damage to the plate and maybe the light assembly above the outlet, so when I got home I cut another hunk of stainless sheeting from the 6th gen heat shields and used it behind and above the plate. Should do the trick.

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Then I pulled the whole system off (so easy with the rear wheel off!!) and applied another coat of primer to the muffler.

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I don't have a kiln for curing this paint, so I'm using engine heat to do it. Maybe I'll just leave it this way! idea3.gif

Later today I'll finish with the red and hopefully get some pics of the finished product posted tomorrow.

Oh yeah, the sound? It sounds magnificent! No louder than my Staintune was, but with a tone that's slightly more "raw", as though the exhaust pulses bounce around less in the muffler before exit (sounds better than ever IMHO). Because the outlet is further removed from my ears than before, the bike is quieter at cruise too.

Total labor hours: about 20. Total cost: approx. $110 (exhaust shop charged $70)
No complaints! fing02.gif
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I too had some rubbing until I tweaked things a bit. It's cool to see so many 5th gen getting the mod itch. Monkey gave me the inspiration for mine. LOL
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oyama, Nov 22 2005, 03:30 PMmagellan

  The exaust looks awesome, but can you post sound as well?


Here's a sound file, but it comes off a little thin. The actual sound has more bass. At least you'll be able to tell how surprisingly well such a tiny muffler damps an otherwise bowel-emptying shreik... biggrin.gif
#13
I like the custom "Really Fast Chopper" look.... the heck with it...cut the mufler off and just leave your pipes as is...

Biker Build off... here comes Magellan!!!

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Fess up Magellan, you liked the sound with the muffler off! tongue.gif I had to start my old one before I got the new mufflers put on. The neighbors couldn't wait to see what I had in my garage!
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Surely everybody has had the extreme experience of cranking without the muffler... WOW!! What a sound!!! I strongly urge you to go out to the garage, pull the muffler, and crank up your solid VFR if you have never done this... Be ready... May need a beer on hand... beer.gif

And yes, it will push you to take your now muffler-less VFR to the drag races next Sunday... goofy.gif
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VolatileVFR, Nov 22 2005, 05:20 PMAnd yes, it will push you to take your now muffler-less VFR to the drag races next Sunday...  goofy.gif


At the muffler shop the guys agreed that it sounds like a small block with gear-driven cams on nitrous... and steroids... and maybe even methamphetamine biggrin.gif

Bloody awesome for sure. They offered to just run the pipe out the back, but I was pretty sure my wife might take issue with that... sad.gif

I used to have a Yammie FZR400 with a track-only Yosh on it, and man did it wail. But when I opened up the VFR on the way to the shop, it sounded far better than any inline 4.
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All done! Here are the pics:
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A great way to warm up the morning cup of coffee! wink.gif
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magellan, Nov 23 2005, 03:22 PMAll done! Here are the pics


Very sharp Magellan. I'm all for recycling laugh.gif

I've also been wrestling with where/how to mount the licence tag under the Wolf system. I like your solution but it does hide what you've done, also I imagine it mutes the sound a little? Which probably would be a good thing with my system...

Can you post some daylight pics, with the seatcowl fitted? (I'm assuming you have one). I'm thinking the red canister + seatcowl will give a nice symmetrical look to the rear end of your bike (and perhaps you could consider losing the rear peg brackets just for the pic cool.gif )

Gee, I wish I'd finished my Wolf installation already, underseat exhausts are becoming so passe rolleyes.gif
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Megellan

Excellent write up and a cool project. You did a great job beer.gif I do agree for anyone who hasnt heard their viffer with muffler off go do it now!!!!!!!!!!!! goofy.gif
#21
Very nice. 5th Gens look great with underseat exhaust.

My hat is off to you fing02.gif
#22
You know, ever since I heard my 03 without pipes I didn't even feel like installing the new Lazer Xtremes I'd just bought cause I that was the sound I wanted. My dilemma is that a Harley with straight pipes or even just some other custom job rollin' down the road can't be that much louder than a VFR with straight pipes. Why are they allowed to get away with it but if we did it we'd get pulled over in a second? Or perhaps this isn't the case and I should just try my luck cause DAMN how sweet it sounds without a muffler!!!! beer.gif
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Just for the Phantom. Thanks for the suggestion. Now how do I keep it this way without making my wife feel excluded? Guess I have to buy her that 636 she wants... comp13.gif


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magellan, Nov 23 2005, 01:22 AMAll done! Here are the pics:



That is just plain amazing.
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Cool, too bad about the license plate obstructing the view of the muffler.

I hope the hi-temp red paint stands up after time.
#26
Magellan, Looks awesome! beer.gif
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Lon,

That's all very groovy, but I urge you to get with Jet-Hot and have all your clever fabrication (and maybe your headpipes) coated with their *Sterling* finish.

I just got my gutted cat stock system back from them and it looks absolutley fantasmigorical. Cost was $145 plus custom-protection shipping. They blast it before coating/baking it, BTW, so it's really a nice finish. Not quite chrome, not quite stainless, not quite aluminum, but a combination of all three. Man is it niiiiice.

For you it would look killer, AND you get the added benefit of better radiated heat control for the up pipe and under the seat, and which tends to increase power in some cases due to better scavenging action. For that matter, you could also send your hangar strap, or make a more "official looking" strap and send it. Send the clamps/visible hardware, too. It call all be made to look "factory-custom", should you want to go that route.

Don't get too clever and coat it in their nice black finish...you'll be radiating heat like a Franklin stove and your "Staintunes Model" won't much like that!! 491.gif

I'll be posting pics of my gutting and Jet-Hotting early next week, so you will be able to see how it looks on the head pipes.
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Trace, Nov 23 2005, 03:18 PMI urge you to get with Jet-Hot and have all your clever fabrication (and maybe your headpipes) coated with their *Sterling* finish.



Let's get a move on with those pics, Tracy! Can't wait to see what you've been up to.

Is Jet Hot simply a product name for something I can have applied locally in Portland, or will I need to ship my pipe? I'd like to give the whole thing the deluxe treatment now that I know I'm sticking with it. My bike may not be a Murphy just yet (Safe-T), but she's definitely a keeper.

As you so tactfully point out, Trace, the mounting strap is kind of the weak link in the overall appearance so I may go ahead and fabricate a mount hidden above the muffler.

Took it for a good ride today and I love the sound and performance. If anything, it breathes a bit better than with the Staintune (I really gutted out the muffler before stuffing it with stainless steel wool), but is no louder.

I too regret the placement of the licence plate, but it's kind of an essential part wink.gif . IMO it's better where it is now than hanging under the muffler.

The FlameProof paint I used on the muffler ought to hold up pretty well; I cured it per instructions and laid it on fairly thick. I like the red so much I can't imagine anything else and I've always got more for touch-up later.

Thanks to all for the support. I'm sure I'll be hacking something else off soon! goofy.gif beer.gif

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magellan, Nov 23 2005, 07:09 PMIs Jet Hot simply a product name for something I can have applied locally in Portland, or  will I need to ship my pipe?

As you so tactfully point out, Trace, the mounting strap is kind of the weak link in the overall appearance so I may go ahead and fabricate a mount hidden above the muffler.

I like the red so much I can't imagine anything else and I've always got more for touch-up later.


Jet Hot is a proprietary product, ( jet-hot.com ) applied at two shop locations, LA and Pascagoula Mississippi (yeah, they survived Katrina). There is also a company called HPC (High Perf Coatings, in California) and another called Classic Coatings in Wisconsin, I think. This is not simple powdercoating, it's a very high temp ceramic/metallic type of powdercoat that's baked to a fare-thee-well. There is a chance that you may have a local shop that does something similar....I didn't here in Ponte Vedra/Jacksonville, and I looked in the big city of Orlando, too. So, yeah, you box it up and send to Jet-Hot (my headpipes cost $15 for me to send to Mississippi, UPS Ground), they bill your Visa, tacking on the FedEx Ground shipping, which cost $25 or so. And they really box it up. Total turnaround time was....8 days, I think. Mebbe 9. They send it back in enough cardboard and bubble pak to open your own UPS store.

Again, my headpipes cost $145/shipping. They give you a quote when you call or send an e-pic of your stuff. I'll send you a pic of my pipes this Friday when I return from this business trip I'm on right now, before I get 'em on.

A hidden mount would be nice, but an underslung mounting strap is a positive stop that prevents disasters! You could easily make a nice one out of steel strap and it would look GREAT Jet-Hotted. Very factory. Very slick.

As for having to touch up your muff due to rock chips or burning or whatever.....you'll NEVER have to touch up anything Jet-Hotted. I wonder how funky your flat red paint will get when dirty water is slung up against it and the goop bakes on instantly. Cleaning instructions for Jet-Hot? Wipe annually with wet rag.

I'm telling ya...as much work as you've done, it DESERVES the cost and hassle of shipping your stuff to Jet-Hot. And you don't even have to remove your red paint....they blast it to white metal for ya! Makes them nasty welds look goooooooooooooood.......
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magellan, Nov 24 2005, 03:41 AMJust for the Phantom. Thanks for the suggestion. Now how do I keep it this way without making my wife feel excluded? Guess I have to buy her that 636 she wants... comp13.gif


You don't muck around beer.gif

With the 'hidden' outlet and no rear pegs, I think this is possibly the cleanest looking VFR rear end I've seen.

If you go with JetHot, and are prepared to pull the whole system off, the rear bank header pipes look pretty amazing when coated. Especially if you leave the upper heat shield off...

http://www.vfrworld.com/images/list/don_wright.jpg

Oh, and tell your wife to forget about the 636 - the new magic number is 675...

http://www.triumph.co.uk/uk/3932.aspx

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The Phantom, Nov 23 2005, 08:51 PMIf you go with JetHot, and are prepared to pull the whole system off, the rear bank header pipes look pretty amazing when coated. Especially if you leave the upper heat shield off...

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And especially inside the black v-shaped middle fairing or wotever it's called, there betwixt the side fairing in front of the motor. Gives that dowdy area some zing, finally. Then you'll find yourself cleaning and polishing all that stuff in there...oil cooler, valve cover, and other bits that are in view and get noticed since the pipes get so much attention.

That pic doesn't do the product justice, but it gives the idea. I have a black Erion pipe, too, and like the black/yellow/alumy look of the whole bike. However, I'm debating about the heat shield...because it....well.....shields heat from yer laage! I made a test run the other day with it off....yikes! The vicious radiant heat, not to mention the hot air coming out of there too, is HOT!! Mebbe the Jet-Hot coating will make it bearable. Believe me, I'd like to see as much of these pipes as possible.

I'll post a pic of my pipes to this thread sometime on Friday for all interested in getting rid of the blah black pipes.
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Trace, Nov 24 2005, 12:29 PMHowever, I'm debating about the heat shield...because it....well.....shields heat from yer laage!  I made a test run the other day with it off....yikes!  The vicious radiant heat, not to mention the hot air coming out of there too, is HOT!!  Mebbe the Jet-Hot coating will make it bearable.  Believe me, I'd like to see as much of these pipes as possible.


Yep, same goes for the 94-97 VFR if you lose the steel heatshield that bolts to the back of the RH footpeg assembly. But it looks grand without it goofy.gif

Not quite as good as an 800, mind you - there's a lot less plumbing on display:

http://www.ozvfr.net/gallery/Phantom-restoration-pics/aba


Looking forward to *your* pics now Trace!
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The Phantom, Nov 23 2005, 08:04 PMYep, same goes for the 94-97 VFR if you lose the steel heatshield that bolts to the back of the RH footpeg assembly. But it looks grand without it  goofy.gif

Not quite as good as an 800, mind you - there's a lot less plumbing on display:

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Looking forward to *your* pics now Trace!


Damn, that yellow 5th gen and charcoal (?) 4th gen are the nicest looking examples of each that I've ever seen. Thanks for keeping the inspiration coming! I think I have a date with Jet-Hot coming up. Thanks for spending my money for me, ya bastidges! biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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magellan, Nov 24 2005, 01:19 PMDamn, that yellow 5th gen and charcoal (?) 4th gen are the nicest looking examples of each that I've ever seen. Thanks for keeping the inspiration coming!



You're welcome.

Not charcoal laugh.gif I was keen to see how a matte black finish would look, and the bike required repainting anyway, so away I went with 400-grade wet and dry... it looks like hell up close but I got the effect I was after!

Tell you what, though - starting in on the tank was VERY difficult, as it was relatively unmarked. The factory black gloss is a lovely colour, 'coca-cola' in sunlight with nice pearl metallic hues.

The bike was 'mocked up' for that pic:

- CBR1100XX mirror is held in place with wire
- Rear bodywork is missing a piece where it meets the indicator (since repaired)
- NR-style aluminium scoop under bellypan is just silver spraypaint
- Mesh side panels are actually silver-painted flyscreen...
- No brakes or drivechain

But it served its purposes - told me I was on the right track with my mods, and more importantly inspires me to get on with it when the project starts to drag its heels... which is often! To give you an idea, I have an email from Safe-T from 2002 asking me "did you ever finished painting your bike?" goofy.gif
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magellan, Nov 23 2005, 10:19 PMI think I have a date with Jet-Hot coming up. Thanks for spending my money for me, ya bastidges!



Just wait 'til you see my pics come Friday. We'll have that wallet smokin'!! I'm thinking $325, give or take $25 or so, from exhaust port to....to....to...er...ahhh...ummm.....license plate. huh.gif
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Trace, Nov 23 2005, 10:37 PMJust wait 'til you see my pics come Friday.  We'll have that wallet smokin'!!  I'm thinking $325, give or take $25 or so, from exhaust port to....to....to...er...ahhh...ummm.....license plate.  huh.gif


So what you're saying is that I should have the license plate JetHot coated to match, right? goofy.gif

And if the system ends up being so beautiful that I have no choice but to make it fully visible from behind, I'm going to be really irritated about hanging the plate off the side off the chainguard like on a H-D chopper, cause it ain't goin' under the muffler!!

Oh, I thought of an invisible means of holding the pipe in place from above that still reaches around the bottom to securely hold the works. I'll do it today and post up later. **Hint: It involves fairy dust and eye of newt**
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magellan, Nov 24 2005, 12:12 PMSo what you're saying is that I should have the license plate JetHot coated to match, right?  goofy.gif

And if the system ends up being so beautiful that I have no choice but to make it fully visible from behind, I'm going to be really irritated about hanging the plate off the side off the chainguard like on a H-D chopper, cause it ain't goin' under the muffler!!



Welllllll....er....ahhhh....ummm.....isn't there something you can do with the tag? Why can't it go under the muff, way forward, up by the spring? You can hang it off the pipe by welding a little bracket up there (before Jet-Hot!!), then bolting your stainless plate (probably a new one, with different bend angle) to it. You can practically hide it up there, within reason, like the Gixxer punks do. Or put it up near the spring, maybe? (don't know how much room you now have under there) My humble opinion is that you're hiding the coolest feature of your work (which is outlets poking out from under the seat) with a tag. I'd rather see it on a tidy little bracket off the right-side passenger footpeg apparatus than where it is, but way forward under the muff would be best. Seriously. And remember, you can trim about 3/8 inch off each side of the tag, maybe more, without being "illegal", which greatly reduces the visuals of it.

Trust me...when you Jet that muff, you're NOT gonna want a tag anywhere near it.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
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Uhhhh, taking off those right side peg heat shields will cause right side hot foot syndrome, specially during summer season rides. Not fun. As it is, my right boot sometimes gets very hot (specially in stop and go traffic) even with the heat shield on.
But it does look really nice without it though!

Beck
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Beck, Nov 24 2005, 12:54 PMUhhhh, taking off those right side peg heat shields will cause right side hot foot syndrome, specially during summer season rides. Not fun. As it is, my right boot sometimes gets very hot (specially in stop and go traffic) even with the heat shield on.
But it does look really nice without it though!



Yeah, those headpipes, right there off the cylinder, are like twin roasting elements. And that's too bad as I'd really like to remove the shield (and brackets) to see the Jet coating. There is a slight chance that the coating will live up to it's reputation of containing "underhood" heat, but I can't imagine it will be enough to keep the right foot/ankle/laaaaaaage area from becoming BBQ'd.
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I'll definitely look at alternate plate locations, but there isn't near as much room under a VFR as under the "Bambi in rut, tail-in-the-air" Rs and CBRs of the world.

As for JetHotting the whole system, I'm leery of removing the right side head pipe heat shield if it means roasted ankle syndrome, although some snaky custom JetHot Sterling heat shields to match the shape of the head pipes would be worth every minute of fab-time. Mmmmmm idea3.gif
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Ceramic coating is nice, and it actually keeps your header from radiating as much heat


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magellan, Nov 24 2005, 03:19 PMI'll definitely look at alternate plate locations, but there isn't near as much room under a VFR as under the "Bambi in rut, tail-in-the-air" Rs and CBRs of the world.�

As for JetHotting the whole system, I'm leery of removing the right side head pipe heat shield if it means roasted ankle syndrome, although some snaky custom JetHot Sterling heat shields to match the shape of the head pipes would be worth every minute of fab-time. Mmmmmm� idea3.gif



"Bambi in rut"---good one! I've always wondered about the "tail-in-air' look....Bambi it is!!

Heat shield--you don't have to remove it, since the really nice portion of the pipes is the part that snakes around down near the centerstand, and then there's the nice shiny gutted cat instead of the dark, heat-shielded cat box. The easy cleaning of that cat-area, due to Jet coating, is something I'm gonna love.

And your idea about heat shields for the head pipes? Veeery interesting. Might work, and maybe they could hide the two clamps (although mine are all Jetted, too and look great.)

Pics tomorrow.
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Trace, Nov 24 2005, 02:06 PM"Bambi in rut"---good one!� I've always wondered about the "tail-in-air' look....Bambi it is!!

Heat shield--you don't have to remove it, since the really nice portion of the pipes is the part that snakes around down near the centerstand, and then there's the nice shiny gutted cat instead of the dark, heat-shielded cat box.� The easy cleaning of that cat-area, due to Jet coating, is something I'm gonna love.

And your idea about heat shields for the head pipes?� Veeery interesting.� Might work, and maybe they could hide the two clamps (although mine are all Jetted, too and look great.)

Pics tomorrow.



biggrin.gif Bikes with that look just seem too damned perky. But at least they have room for a license plate way under the seat. I took my plate off and moved it around, playing with ideas, but there really isn't room anywhere toward the front of the undertray for a reasonably clear view of the plate; I'd draw unwanted attention from the popo if I tried. Nevertheless, as a concession to you guys who just have to see the back of the muffler, I raised the mounting angle of the plate so its bottom edge is about 3/4" higher than before. You can now see much more of the muffler's rear and the plate is still easily readable. I'm happy with it, so there... tongue.gif

I also removed the understrap completely. All I had to do was drill a hole in the top of the decorative chrome endcap, bolt on a strap, run it through the undertray, and attach it using the bolt that holds the seat latch to the subframe crossbrace. I won't even bother to use up drive space with a picture because it looks like it did before but now without the under-strap. Even cleaner than before and just as firmly located.

Now if JetHot will just respond to my inquiry... Jeez, it's been a whole 16 hours now. Where's the foot-tapping emoticon?
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SAFE-T, Nov 24 2005, 01:26 PMCeramic coating is nice, and it actually keeps your header from radiating as much heat

You just had to bring Murphy into this, didn't you? (We're not worthy... we're not worthy... *bowing*)

You know, Safe-T, my sisters live in Calgary and I intend to ride up there next summer. idea3.gif We may have to fab up an underseat exhaust for Murphy while I'm there and make him truly perfect... rolleyes.gif
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DAAAAAMN! I love custom fab jobs. Great idea and good job on implementing it, Magellan....
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magellan, Nov 24 2005, 11:35 PMYou know, Safe-T, my sisters live in Calgary and I intend to ride up there next summer.  idea3.gif


Let me know when you are going to be there - I would love to see your bike in person fing02.gif

If I can find an MV Agusta exhaust for a decent price I think I can match it up with the sixth gen's upswept bend...
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SAFE-T, Nov 24 2005, 10:56 PMLet me know when you are going to be there - I would love to see your bike in person  fing02.gif

If I can find an MV Agusta exhaust for a decent price I think I can match it up with the sixth gen's upswept bend...


Sure will.

As far as the MV Augusta exhaust, which of their bikes would you want the pipes from? It looks like several of them might fit a 6th gen, but I doubt any would fit under Murphy. Do you have an idea up your sleeve, or just a 6th gen I don't know about?
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magellan, Nov 25 2005, 08:37 AMAs far as the MV Augusta exhaust, which of their bikes would you want the pipes from?


No 6G up my sleeve biggrin.gif Any MV exhaust for the F4 series should work - I still have to get some measurements but it's looking like a possibility.
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Nice job Magellan ! fing02.gif

I just picked up this pipe off ebay for my next custome Home made exhaust for my 6th gen.


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Here's a few shots of my Jet-Hotted pipes. I'm gonna install them right now (even though it's PERFECT weather here in Ponte Vedra Beach...should be riding!)

I'll make a new "Check *This* Out" post showing details of the cutting and gutting, and some intalled bling bling pics in a day or two.

Notice where the O2's were....now have metic plugs in 'em from the auto parts emporium..basically replacement oil drain plugs for a few bucks.

Jet-Hot secures the flanges with wire so they stay in a proper location for best appearance during the coating process. I think they've done this sort of thing before! goofy.gif


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Gutted Cat, Jet-Hot Coated

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Green stickers are inspection sign-off for each piece

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Closeup of gutted cat-bottom: removed, gutted, rewelded
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