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sliders?

12 posts Started 8 Apr 2006 Last recovered post 10 Apr 2006 Wayback Machine snapshot 24 Jun 2007

#1
many folks have asked about the body sliders (crash protectors) here's the pictures. that's all i know

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#2
Awesome. I've always wonder why someone didn't make sliders like that. No drilling through fairing required.

Of course, I wonder how well they work. Is there anybody out there that has been down with these sliders? How well do they work?!
#3
I don't know if anyone ever got those? Back a couple of years ago when a few of us were searching for sliders for our 6th gen bikes someone discovered those.

They were investigated and were found to be pretty expensive($300-400) if I remember correctly.

Also, there was some serious concern among VFRD members with the mounting "bracket" strength, i.e. if there was a get off would the slider/bracket end up going into the radiator.....which would be a bad thing tongue.gif

I don't remember anyone ordering them for those reasons? I could be wrong though goofy.gif

Anyway, that's what I remember.....maybe some of the other guys can add to this.
#4
I think the consensus has been that these will serve to crush your radiators. That little metal bracket is not going to do a whole heck of a lot, maybe in a 0 mph tip over it could help, but I bet it will leave you with a leaking radiator otherwise.
#5
Das Bone, Apr 8 2006, 07:08 PMThey were investigated and were found to be pretty expensive($300-400) if I remember correctly.

Ouch, that is more than the real ones cost.

Here is my understanding of sliders.

For 0 mph drops, frame sliders may help somewhat, doesn?t really matter, side fairings aren?t that expensive.

For a real crash, they can help keep the damage to things like fairings, bar ends, mirrors, pegs. In my low side, the fairing was crushed and damaged radiators, crushed and bent the gas tank, and scratched the frame. This added up to basically totaling the bike. If I had sliders on before this, I think it would have been about $700 or so worth of damage.

I think it was Ox who went down at 70 mph recently with Motivation sliders and had a fraction of the damage I had from a 40mph low side.

I ordered R&G sliders before I ordered my replacement parts, wish I had done it earlier but was scared of the price tag and drilling fairings.
#6
I agree, those brackets will deform on a crash with any sort of speed, especially since it's aluminum. The best way to add some rigidity to those would be to use I beams for the piece crossing the radiator. By moving it out 1/8" of an inch from the radiator, you should have enought room for the beam. Good idea, just needs some refining.
#7
I think you'd be much better off without those sliders. They'll cause more damage than no slider at all.
#8
jeremy556, Apr 9 2006, 11:19 AMFor a real crash, they can help keep the damage to things like fairings, bar ends, mirrors, pegs. In my low side, the fairing was crushed and damaged radiators, crushed and bent the gas tank, and scratched the frame. This added up to basically totaling the bike. If I had sliders on before this, I think it would have been about $700 or so worth of damage.

Yeah, the tank getting dented is what I found to be the most hassle when I dropped my '02 the first time. The fairing crushed inwards and dented the tank - which then required panel beating, sandblasting, and repainting. That took 4 weeks - the rest of the parts were just snap-on order & replace bits from Honda.

With my Motovation sliders now, if I have another low-speed off I expect to be riding the bike around while I wait for plastic bits - or just removing the fairings while they get welded and/or resprayed. Of course, if I crash at 100km/h I fully expect the bike to be totalled, sliders or no.
#9
i wonder what percentage of the radiator they cover - and if ur bike would run hotter? blink.gif
#10
jeremy556, Apr 8 2006, 04:19 PMOuch, that is more than the real ones cost.

Here is my understanding of sliders.

For 0 mph drops, frame sliders may help somewhat, doesn?t really matter, side fairings aren?t that expensive.

For a real crash, they can help keep the damage to things like fairings, bar ends, mirrors, pegs. In my low side, the fairing was crushed and damaged radiators, crushed and bent the gas tank, and scratched the frame. This added up to basically totaling the bike. If I had sliders on before this, I think it would have been about $700 or so worth of damage.

I think it was Ox who went down at 70 mph recently with Motivation sliders and had a fraction of the damage I had from a 40mph low side.

I ordered R&G sliders before I ordered my replacement parts, wish I had done it earlier but was scared of the price tag and drilling fairings.




They can save you quite a bit in some situations. I have two pictures of results but I don't think I'm allowed to post pictures of crashed bikes.
#12
Avid One, Apr 10 2006, 08:10 PM
They can save you quite a bit in some situations. I have two pictures of results but I don't think I'm allowed to post pictures of crashed bikes.


For the purposes of letting us see what the sliders did, or didn't do....we should see it. Don't think HS would mind. Its not a gratuitious thing! Post away. These things help members make decisions about gear.
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