Anyone Tried The Full Plastic Kits Of Ebay?
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you. :fing02:
[image: View Post]EmeraldVFR, on Aug 11 2009, 12:03 AM, said:
Most of what I've heard about these kits isn't good. Overall, it seems, fit and finish aren't all that great (and don't forget, they're not gonna give you a matching gas tank.)Whatever you decide, best of luck to you. :fing02:
Well I ordered a set, I guess I will try it out myself, I been searching alot here on the forum and other places, no one that I can find on this forum actually says they bought these? Lots said they were going to, but never posted later about it. I ordered the set with the gas tank cover, I hope it works out, the Repsol kit looks very nice, so I guess we will find out soon.
[image: View Post]handkaudio, on Aug 11 2009, 09:28 AM, said:
[image: View Post]EmeraldVFR, on Aug 11 2009, 12:03 AM, said:
Most of what I've heard about these kits isn't good. Overall, it seems, fit and finish aren't all that great (and don't forget, they're not gonna give you a matching gas tank.)Whatever you decide, best of luck to you. :fing02:
Well I ordered a set, I guess I will try it out myself, I been searching alot here on the forum and other places, no one that I can find on this forum actually says they bought these? Lots said they were going to, but never posted later about it. I ordered the set with the gas tank cover, I hope it works out, the Repsol kit looks very nice, so I guess we will find out soon.
Here's some people who ordered from Nice Cycle...
Jesse
[image: View Post]belovian, on Aug 11 2009, 10:31 AM, said:
Good for you! I've been curious about these kits as well. I keep hoping to find a trashed viffer for cheap so I can rebuild it with one of these kits. I half assume that the Fitment problems come from peoples inexperience in panel replacement. Guess we'll find out when you give us the feedback (with photos!!).Jesse
Oh there will be photos! I like pics, so no problem there. I am a huge fan of the repsol graphics and even a bigger fan of orange, so I just cant wait. I need to sell my stock fairings on egay now! But thanks for the link on VFR World, I have never been on that forum
In the end we took our time and the fit was very good and all the seam lines came out very nice and even (and I am really picky about panel fit), as far as the quality of the parts, they seemed right on par with the thickness of some ninja 650r body panels we had near to hand, and they seemed just as flexible. I have had a lot of experience with large abs panels at my last job (they were used as the cosmetic covers for our machines) and I learned that it is a good idea to reinforce (plastic welder epoxy and fiber glass chopped mat) at the points where the plastics are mounted and have a place where they have a deep inside corner.
we spent about an hour reinforcing all these spots. just to add integrity to these spots (this I would recommend even on oem parts when they are installed) it goes a long way to make the covers more durable. we also added a few more spots of heat insulation after seeing a few places that we thought could use some based on the condition of the originals where they looked like they had been hot.
I will try to get a few pics after the paint is done (he is having a honda replica paint job done on this bike, to look like Spensers nr500 1981 bike, kinf odd but it should be pretty cool) and it is costing a lot more than $100 like add a zero+, this may be a while his hours at work got cut back some. But I think based on this experience that they are a good deal and can make a very nice looking bike.
One thing to consider is the price of their paint jobs, this set was only about $100 bucks less un painted, so their paint jobs are a pretty cheap paint job. Even Earl Schibe can't paint a car for $99.95 any more.
I think one problem some folks may have is not having the patience and mechanical skill to fit a full set of body work correctly, you can make the oem plastics on a vfr look pretty bad if you just throw them on and do not take your time.
[image: View Post]Tightwad, on Aug 27 2009, 09:28 AM, said:
I may be very interested in what you find out, based on my recent activities....errr..... me too. :blush:
[image: View Post]FotoMoto, on Aug 27 2009, 10:44 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Tightwad, on Aug 27 2009, 09:28 AM, said:
I may be very interested in what you find out, based on my recent activities....errr..... me too. :blush:
Note: I know there's been some question as to whether or not the kits contain a tank cover.............. :huh:
It seems at least some do. :warranty:
Greg :fing02:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/Talk%20Time/tank.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/VEEFER/Talk%20Time/tank2.jpg
[image: View Post]FotoMoto, on Aug 27 2009, 10:44 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Tightwad, on Aug 27 2009, 09:28 AM, said:
I may be very interested in what you find out, based on my recent activities....errr..... me too. :blush:
Uhhh, I'm sure it will be soon for me, too. I've already had more "luck" than one person deserves.
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Also I did get that exact tank cover.I'm just curious; did you use the same company (heyman motors) to make the purchase?
When I Googled VFR 800 Repsol body kits, there were others as well, some with and some without the tank cover...
You got me interested in seeing if I can just order the tank cover, Seb. I have a complete set of body parts as spares.
But then I'd have to find a decal set.
Greg :fing02:
[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on Aug 29 2009, 01:57 PM, said:
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Also I did get that exact tank cover.I'm just curious; did you use the same company (heyman motors) to make the purchase?
When I Googled VFR 800 Repsol body kits, there were others as well, some with and some without the tank cover...
You got me interested in seeing if I can just order the tank cover, Seb. I have a complete set of body parts as spares.
But then I'd have to find a decal set.
Greg :fing02:
Well I found some more info, they all come from the same place and these other people sell the kits and have them dropped shipped from the place making them. I do have some pics as I got most of the stuff on my bike. Posting soon.....
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1276.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1277.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1279.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1280.jpg
[image: View Post]handkaudio, on Aug 29 2009, 07:57 PM, said:
I dont have everything on yet, but this is the majority of the parts, I really like them, especially for the moneyhttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/handkaudio/100_1280.jpg
LMAO They messed up on the fairing stickers, "RK Spark Plugs" RK doesnt make spark plugs and "NGK Takasago Chain" NGK doesnt make chains lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item414cc10f18
I'll post pictures when I get them going..
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 05 February 2010 - 07:28 PM, said:
My 03 has been wrecked twice. I have struggled with the cost of fairings and I have wondered if I would even keep the bike long term. Well, I have resolved that I will keep it and so I decided to fix the scratches. I just ordered this:http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item414cc10f18
I'll post pictures when I get them going..
Sweet, ya bastige! Exactly what i want to do to mine! :unsure:
W/tank cover is awesome, congrats!!! :fing02:
BR
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 05 February 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 05 February 2010 - 07:28 PM, said:
My 03 has been wrecked twice. I have struggled with the cost of fairings and I have wondered if I would even keep the bike long term. Well, I have resolved that I will keep it and so I decided to fix the scratches. I just ordered this:http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item414cc10f18
I'll post pictures when I get them going..
Sweet, ya bastige! Exactly what i want to do to mine! :unsure:
W/tank cover is awesome, congrats!!! :fing02:
BR
thank you sir! so do you think the stock silver forks/frame and black rims will look ok?
ps...you don't need these cause you can actually keep your vfr of the tarmac! :goofy:
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 05 February 2010 - 07:46 PM, said:
thank you sir! so do you think the stock silver forks/frame and black rims will look ok?ps...you don't need these cause you can actually keep your vfr of the tarmac! :goofy:
No, I don't think it will hurt at all, I planned on leaving all my stock/silver frame and parts stock too, unlike one of our members who doing it like the 09 w/black everything. :rolleyes:
Need any help or use of my lift, come on down! :fing02:
We can throw that 1200 spring on at the same time. :fing02:
Are you going to switch to the clear light lenses?
[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 05 February 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:
Congrats Dale, not a bad deal for 500 bones! :fing02: Be nice to have a couple more e-pinions on the kits too! :rolleyes:Are you going to switch to the clear light lenses?
i hope to some time in the future, but for now...i think i'll stick with stock. the pics do make the clear lenses look nice though.
I think the Silver forks and black wheels will look good.
One more thing, I ordered mine on a Thursday and they got to me in ten days on the following Saturday! I was amazed.
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs237.snc1/8420_1237246926612_1092398558_30766380_2344960_n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs237.snc1/8420_1237247006614_1092398558_30766382_258145_n.jpg
In good company!
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs043.snc3/13040_1250725263562_1092398558_30806885_4517819_n.jpg
BR
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 05 March 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:
I've got a lift and all the tools you could want if you need some help TC! :fing02:BR
TY sir. I will just be excited to get home and see if it is all in one piece. Seems as if most folks had some breakage in transit, so I am not holding out too much hope that i will be able to swap it out this weekend.
One question; if i have to reglue on some tabs (someone else had to move them to get them to fit), what type of glue should I get and where do you get it?
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 05 March 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 05 March 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:
I've got a lift and all the tools you could want if you need some help TC! :fing02:BR
TY sir. I will just be excited to get home and see if it is all in one piece. Seems as if most folks had some breakage in transit, so I am not holding out too much hope that i will be able to swap it out this weekend.
One question; if i have to reglue on some tabs (someone else had to move them to get them to fit), what type of glue should I get and where do you get it?
I'm glad you mentioned the tab thing. The mechanic that put mine on, reinforced all the little tabs on the upper cowl because they are kind of half assed. He used some type of resin/plastic weld and beefed them up. Cruzinaz might know what it was called. My oem rear cowl also does not fit perfectly and is very snug where the front tabs go in. Luckily I don't take the seat off alot!
[image: View Post]Badazzteacher, on 05 March 2010 - 03:21 PM, said:
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 05 March 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 05 March 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:
I've got a lift and all the tools you could want if you need some help TC! :fing02:BR
TY sir. I will just be excited to get home and see if it is all in one piece. Seems as if most folks had some breakage in transit, so I am not holding out too much hope that i will be able to swap it out this weekend.
One question; if i have to reglue on some tabs (someone else had to move them to get them to fit), what type of glue should I get and where do you get it?
I'm glad you mentioned the tab thing. The mechanic that put mine on, reinforced all the little tabs on the upper cowl because they are kind of half assed. He used some type of resin/plastic weld and beefed them up. Cruzinaz might know what it was called. My oem rear cowl also does not fit perfectly and is very snug where the front tabs go in. Luckily I don't take the seat off alot!
was yours a heymen from china??
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 05 March 2010 - 12:08 PM, said:
One question; if i have to reglue on some tabs (someone else had to move them to get them to fit), what type of glue should I get and where do you get it?ABS solvent, check HS "repaint my bike" thread as he sows it in there, says it's great! :fing02:
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was yours a heymen from china??My order was from Timmy66666 (Timmy Chong). From what someone told me: there is a basically a huge warehouse selling car, motorcycle parts, electronics, etc. and a bunch of guys sit in a room running ebay accounts. The more they sell, the more they make. So that is why all the stuff on ebay looks the same because it is. The sellers are responsible for their own ads/postings, but they're all working for the same manufacturing outfit. I chose Timmy because his rep was super high and answered all my questions fairly and quickly. I was very surprised I didn't run into any snags and all the parts were intact upon arrival.
Good luck getting them on, you'll have to do some finaggeling for sure.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0255.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0256.jpg
Not too much was damaged...just a tab broke:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0264.jpg
Here is what the old plastics looked like:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0268.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0270.jpg
So I pulled it out of the box and treid to start with the tank as I guessed it to be the hardest to fit. I didn't even make it past this :( The rear didn't fit right and cracked when I pushed it down
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0272.jpg
I'd live with it, but I couldn't get it over the tank rear first/front first/just didn't matter. I have emailed Heymen....We'll see what he says do.
Has anyone got this to fit? If so, could they give me any input as to how to get it over the tank or is mine mis-sized.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0274.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0275.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0276.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0278.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0279.jpg
Overall quality when compared to Honda (10):
Plastic 6
Paint 6
Stay tuned
Maybe a 100 deg. day would help the tank cover to fit? Maybe heat it up a little with a hair dryer or in the oven for a short time? :blush:
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 06 March 2010 - 07:07 PM, said:
Wow, surprised that only one tab was broken with that smashed box! :unsure:Maybe a 100 deg. day would help the tank cover to fit? Maybe heat it up a little with a hair dryer or in the oven for a short time? :blush:
this definitely helped, but it still doesn't fit....now it has a crack on the front left edge of the tank :pissed:
i noticed it has strips of ABS along each edge on the inside of the tank for strength. it is almost as if the cover touches those strips on the tank and won't go any further. then the lip is not completely seated (by about 1/8")....
we'll see what customer service they have now
[image: View Post]rangerscott69, on 07 March 2010 - 12:30 PM, said:
Did any of ya'll come with the brass inserts? Anybody know someone that sells them?nope....
I will repost/retract the following if they handle this in some absolutely AMAZING way, but I am not holding my breath....
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND BUYING THE EBAY/CHINESE FAIRINGS FOR OUR BIKE
1. The SHAPE of the plastic is fine. I cant say that their molds are bad.
2. The paint is a 6 if Honda is a 10. It would work for me and be better than anything I could do, but you would never mistake it for Honda.
3. THE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS THE MOUNTING POINTS. THEY:
DO NOT ALWAYS POINT THE RIGHT DIRECTION
DO NOT HAVE THREADED INSERTS ON THE MAJORITY OF MOUNT POINTS
OFTEN HAVE TO BE SHAVED/BENT/MOVED TO MAKE IT WORK
factory:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0280.jpg
aftermarket (note angle difference and no insert):
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x176/2003vfr/Heyman%20Plastics/IMG_0281.jpg
I believe that with the way the mounting points are, that if you removed the plastics a couple of times you would break or ream out many of them and end up with additional headaches.
With the tank cover having cracked, I have almost given up. a $500 stupid tax. At this point, I wish I had bought the front fairing (most damaged) for the same price and simply lived with the minor rash on the other parts.
I would appreciate it if anyone who has utilized these products would correct me and explain where I am wrong and what I can do to use the products. Even if they don't replace the tank cover, I could still make a go with what I have, but the fastener/mounting point issue is not one I know how to fix.
In all, I spent about $1500 having the plastics bought, installed, and tank and seat cowl painted. I also think the paint quality is pretty decent on my plastics.
Sorry to see you having such a bad time with them.
new posts (with inserts?)
glue
touch up paint
they also said that the tank would expand and elongate such that even thought around 5mm of tank are showing after i put it on, 2 or 3 days later, it should "grow" to cover it.....does anyone think this is so?
once i heat it, put it on and leave it for a little while, it will obviuosly harden and i won't be able to get it off without breaking it, so if it doesn't "grow", i am screwed....thoughts?
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 12 March 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:
so they said they would send:new posts (with inserts?)
glue
touch up paint
they also said that the tank would expand and elongate such that even thought around 5mm of tank are showing after i put it on, 2 or 3 days later, it should "grow" to cover it.....does anyone think this is so?
once i heat it, put it on and leave it for a little while, it will obviuosly harden and i won't be able to get it off without breaking it, so if it doesn't "grow", i am screwed....thoughts?
I don't know about that tank adjusting. From the pics, it looks like the section around the gas cap is off by a cm. or more. Give it yer best try though with heat. If it doesn't go on, can you just get the original painted instead?
[image: View Post]Badazzteacher, on 12 March 2010 - 08:10 AM, said:
[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on 12 March 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:
so they said they would send:new posts (with inserts?)
glue
touch up paint
they also said that the tank would expand and elongate such that even thought around 5mm of tank are showing after i put it on, 2 or 3 days later, it should "grow" to cover it.....does anyone think this is so?
once i heat it, put it on and leave it for a little while, it will obviuosly harden and i won't be able to get it off without breaking it, so if it doesn't "grow", i am screwed....thoughts?
I don't know about that tank adjusting. From the pics, it looks like the section around the gas cap is off by a cm. or more. Give it yer best try though with heat. If it doesn't go on, can you just get the original painted instead?
i retried and with more heat, was able to get it down further, so the pictures dont exactly show how close it was. we'll see.
i want to wait and see what the mounting posts look like first before i even bother. this is now going to be a slow go job where i had hoped to simply get it done one weekend.
i'll end up using them and painting the tank or making the cover work....just not sure when i'll get to it.
then i'll remove the old plastics and get them fixed and repainted too...just takes two things no one has enough of....time and money :biggrin:
I have requested silver stickers, 1 set on each side of the tank with the Honda "wing" logo
And one set on either side of the left and right fairing at the very bottom edge in silver also with "HONDA"
And I got a "VFR" along the top of the side fairings and no "HONDA" ... pics will follow.
Also the paint is really light and they definitely paint top down leaving all the edges unpainted.
I am worried that the matte black wont stand the test of time based on the light paint and fact that you cant buff a matte paint job so after a little testing I am going to go over all of the fairings with a Testors Dullcoat spray matte clear coat used for modeling.
I have borrowed a heat gun from a friend and I will be tackling the install over the weekend, pics and results will be coming ... wish me luck :cheerleader:
Bodywork fitting has ALWAYS been difficult fussy work. Some people just don't have the mechanical aptitude combined with the infinite patience to make it work. It's a lot of tedious, backbreaking work to position this stuff on the bike and it makes you respect the hard work Honda put into the quality control in their own bodywork. But it comes at a horribly high price!
From what I've heard, this stuff fits together fairly well with the other parts it comes with. The issue is fitting it onto the bike. That's the hard part. But once you get it together and mounted correctly it's not bad with each successive removal/reinstall after that for maintenance -but not as "easy" as the stock plastic (which can also be a PITA!) So bear in mind that if you take the bike into a mechanic to be worked on you might get dinged by a wrench who gets pissed off at these and adds extra labor charges to what the book says for any job you have done. I wouldn't blame them.
But for the price, and if you have an older bike you are trying to restore and don't want to spend more on plastic than the bike is worth these might be a great option to finding and repairing used scratch&dent OEM bodywork. That is also a difficult and fussy job -especially if some of the sub-frame and mounting parts have been tweaked a little bit. Anyone who has ever tried to deal with a slightly bent front fairing frame/stay knows what I'm talking about. The Honda bodywork doesn't fit as nice after a bike has been down unless all these parts have been replaced (expensive) and even then it is fussy getting it back to perfect factory specs again.
I would like to see more pics of these installed and hear more reports from people who have bought and put these one. The pics I've seen look GOOD on the monitor. But it doesn't take a lot to look good on the monitor. My own repaint job looks GOOD in pictures but when you look up close and personal you can tell it isn't up to the quality, fit, and finish of the OEM.
Good enough for me -and the price was right :-D
[image: View Post]VFRCanuck, on 21 March 2010 - 12:19 AM, said:
Well my kit is here and I am still dubious. They screwed up the prep instructions I sent them ... I asked for the following ...I have requested silver stickers, 1 set on each side of the tank with the Honda "wing" logo
And one set on either side of the left and right fairing at the very bottom edge in silver also with "HONDA"
And I got a "VFR" along the top of the side fairings and no "HONDA" ... pics will follow.
Also the paint is really light and they definitely paint top down leaving all the edges unpainted.
I am worried that the matte black wont stand the test of time based on the light paint and fact that you cant buff a matte paint job so after a little testing I am going to go over all of the fairings with a Testors Dullcoat spray matte clear coat used for modeling.
I have borrowed a heat gun from a friend and I will be tackling the install over the weekend, pics and results will be coming ... wish me luck :cheerleader:
this is all very interesting, as the wife & i are buying a 2nd 6th gen that needs some love. we were seriously considering these after market fairings, please let us know how you go.
best of luck with the fitting!
[image: View Post]VFRCanuck, on 20 March 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:
Well my kit is here and I am still dubious. They screwed up the prep instructions I sent them ... I asked for the following ...I have requested silver stickers, 1 set on each side of the tank with the Honda "wing" logo
And one set on either side of the left and right fairing at the very bottom edge in silver also with "HONDA"
And I got a "VFR" along the top of the side fairings and no "HONDA" ... pics will follow.
Also the paint is really light and they definitely paint top down leaving all the edges unpainted.
I am worried that the matte black wont stand the test of time based on the light paint and fact that you cant buff a matte paint job so after a little testing I am going to go over all of the fairings with a Testors Dullcoat spray matte clear coat used for modeling.
I have borrowed a heat gun from a friend and I will be tackling the install over the weekend, pics and results will be coming ... wish me luck :cheerleader:
:worthlesswithoutpics: WELL :laughing6-hehe: Saw these guys on Ebay and was wondering myself.
As of now I am looking at
1. Ebay user yes2yeah http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
2. Ebay user bike-z http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
3. Nice Cycle http://www.nicecycle...sp?Redirected=Y
4. AirTech http://www.airtech-s...R8001998-01.htm OOps noticed they don't have 6th Gen stuff....yet, but they are in San Diego near me. Might have to give them a call.
So I'm more confused than ever :ohmy: I have a feeling that they are all the same, except maybe Airtech, as they have the brass thread inserts installed already.