Ips Driver Error

Got an IPS Driver Error this morning trying to get to vfrd. My version of IPS Driver Error:

The VFR now downgraded from �gently used� to �assaulted�.

In light traffic on a usually busy road with very light traffic yesterday evening (about 7ish, still light out, but sun setting), following an IPS Driver. He�s the first (and only) car to pull up to a light, and gets in the right lane to go straight. I pull up behind him and stop about a Civic away. He looks around a bit, puts his car in reverse, and starts to back up. Faster. I surprisingly calmly say, �oh shite�� I very quickly look/think of options and realize I have really none. I lay on the meek sickly horn as he backs into me, sending me back maybe 2 feet.

I am either pretty good at riding backwards, or lucky. I�ll go with lucky. I managed to stay vertical, and am now pissed, which means I must be ok physically. IPS Driver looks in his rearview mirror obviously startled that he hit something/heard the horn. He puts his hand up as I motion him to pull over. We both go thru the light and pull over. Lucky for me a pedestrian saw the whole thing and was extremely nice.

Turns out IPS Driver was trying to back up to get into the left turn lane and �didn�t see me�. VFR is (metalic pearl) white, headlights work fine, I�m wearing a white helmet, and a bright hi-viz yellow jacket. Sigh.

His car his fine of course. VFR has some scuffs, but otherwise seems ok. What should I be looking for or aware of? I do pretty much all my own mechanic work, but should I take it someplace (dealer?) �just to be sure�?

Got his name, rank, serial number just the same in case insurance claim needs to be filed. (I hope not � I like my insurance rates, and would be happy if his employer just gave me free pizza for life (party at my place � vfrd invited!)

To add insult to injury, in my haste, I didn�t turn off the ignition when we pulled over. So the poor shaken battery was dead. Had to jump it� wow, big spark. Jumped lots of vehicles; that one was pretty big. Wait a few minutes for vfr battery to suck some current and � nothing. 30A fuse blown on vfr. That�s weird� I have a spare, pop it in, and reconnect again. Another spark, about half as big as the first one, but still kinda large to me. Maybe I�m being paranoid now. Battery charges enough to start fine, and I�m on my way.

Charged battery overnight, and it starts fine. Idle speed seems a bit low, and running a bit rough at low speed and cold engine. Again, maybe I�m being paranoid. Get to work, and I think I smell electrical melting smell. Look a bit and can�t really see anything jumping out at me. Paranoid? Gonna try to take a better look tonight, but wanted to get some guidance on what to check first/more thoroughly.

Lastly, what, if anything could I have done differently? I�m thinking along the lines of when the IPS Driver was in the process of backing into me. For the life of me, I can�t really think of anything. Honked sooner maybe? (Stebel ordered this morning. I think I remember a few wonderful posts on installing it. I�m sure I�ll be re-reading them.)

Was the other car running when you jumped your bike?

Yeah. He was at the stop light. I pulled up behind him and stopped. He put his car in reverse and backed up, into me. :mad:

[image: View Post]Macs06VFR, on Sep 16 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

Yeah. He was at the stop light. I pulled up behind him and stopped. He put his car in reverse and backed up, into me. :mad:
I think what Crazy was asking is "Was the car that gave your bike a jump start, running at the time you jump started it?" I've read a few posts where there has been some elctrical problems after jumping using a running car.

The car that jumped you, was it runnung?

Duh, got it now. No, car was not running. Understand cars can overwhelm bikes. Older car too... mid 90s maybe. POS chrysler lebaron.

Wow, Deja Vu my incident Glad to hear no major unrideable damage, & you are ok! :fing02: Good Luck w/the free pizza for Life!

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Probably a good thing your 30A fuse blew to protect your electronics! And a good thing you had a spare one!

I'd check that the forks are not bent.
The only thing you can do for that situation is to sit further back from cages and to one side ... Then you'll have time and space to pull up to the side if he backs up, or another cage from behind is trying to make a sandwich out of you.

[image: View Post]V-FORE, on Sep 16 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

Wow, Deja Vu my incident Glad to hear no major unrideable damage, & you are ok! :fing02: Good Luck w/the free pizza for Life!
Link didn't work. :(

Thanks. You all will know about it if deal come thru! :cool:

[image: View Post]Monk, on Sep 16 2009, 09:20 PM, said:

I'd check that the forks are not bent.

+1

Melted plastic? You may have cooked a connector somewhere when jumpstarting the bike... check 'em all out...

[image: View Post]Monk, on Sep 16 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

I'd check that the forks are not bent.
The only thing you can do for that situation is to sit further back from cages and to one side ... Then you'll have time and space to pull up to the side if he backs up, or another cage from behind is trying to make a sandwich out of you.
Yeah, my first thought was if they got bent back or not. Didn't really notice any difference on the ride. Heck of a way to adjust rake/trail, etc. :blush:

Funny thing is, I thought I was pretty far back. I usually allow a decent amount of space in front of me, in case I need an escape route forward when someone comes up on me from behind. I was to right a bit (better escape path that way). Problem was he was backing up into the only way I could go.

[image: View Post]Monk, on Sep 16 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

I'd check that the forks are not bent.
The only thing you can do for that situation is to sit further back from cages and to one side ... Then you'll have time and space to pull up to the side if he backs up, or another cage from behind is trying to make a sandwich out of you.
+1 on both counts.

Check your forks, and probably your front wheel, too. Sorry I don't know how exactly to check the forks, but it needs to be done IMO.

When stopping behind a cager I stop a bit behind and near the end of that vehicle's bumper - usually the left side, so the driver can see me in their driver's side mirror. This makes me more visible but also puts me in a position where I can move out to the side if necessary to evade if the driver backs up - or if the vehicle approaching me from the rear is coming up too fast or not paying attention and doesn't see me.

While I am near the outside of the vehicle in front of me, I don't overlap it. Doing so would only encourage the cager behind me to take my spot, forcing me to get back in line if I'm not turning.

I'm a little surpised jumpstarting from a non-running car caused problems. I made the mistake of jumping my bike from a running car once. Never again. Even with the problem I think it caused (fried relays that had to be replaced) I got off lucky.

[image: View Post]TimC, on Sep 16 2009, 04:06 PM, said:

[I'm a little surpised jumpstarting from a non-running car caused problems. I made the mistake of jumping my bike from a running car once. Never again. Even with the problem I think it caused (fried relays that had to be replaced) I got off lucky.
I was a lot surprised too. Didn't really look at the good battery, so I don't remember it being anything remarkable (24V or 5000CCA :dry: )

Had trouble finding a ground on the bike I was happy with. I usually like the rear axle, but it has a plastic cover on it.