Okay. Here is the scenario. A couple of days ago I am on a long ride with good weather. I notice that my turn signals are no longer working (horn still works). No big deal, I keep going. I overnight at a hotel and it rains on my bike overnight. Start the bike in the morning and the idle comes up to about 3k but soon returns to normal. i eat breakfast, get back on bike and leave town. After about 1.5 hours my lights, gauges,taillight all go out. bike continues to run fine. I stop at a gas station due to heavy rain and replace blown 10 amp fuse with a 15 amp fuse ( i know, it was the smallest they had and i needed lights for the rain). All gauges and lights work for the next 3 hours in heavy rain with everything going ( grips on full blast, hi beams) No more problems for remainder of ride.
2007 VFR800 ABS
About a month ago I installed grip heaters using the license plate light wiring. This wire has its own 3 amp fuse that remained intact at all times.
I am curious about the turn signals and if this could be related somehow to the other electrical problem.
I have read the entire electrical thread and am concerned that I do not have the necessary skills to replace the wiring harness on my own. I will be doing an inspection over the next few days.
Any ideas or suggestions for electrically challenged would be appreciated. For some reason the pics on the electrical thread wouldnt pull up.
I love this bike, but if I cant trust it at night it is going to have to go
Sorry for your troubles! :unsure:
It's hard to say, with all the rain it could be a simple short or loose plug issue somewhere! Ever any issues in the dry?
When you say you are powering your grips off the tail light wire, do you mean your are powering a relay from the tail light or actually powering up the grips direct from this source? :unsure:
I would NOT power the grip heaters from anything other than a through a relay feeding directly off the battery and using the taillight circuit to power/switch the relay. Way too much draw on the wiring otherwise and the grips won't get as hot or heat as quick this way either. :blush:
Also I would Not run the Hi beans very long when also powering other other non-factory accessories(like heated gear) as the hi-beans(100w) alone use up almost half of the excess available watts(approx 250w) the bike has.
Hopefully some others will come along and offer some better ideas. :rolleyes:
BR
I don't have much in the way of suggestions. When I had electrical troubles, it was the grounding issue. I believe they fixed that on the newer ones.
This is the kit I have on my '02 and they draw 36W on High.
I quite frequently run the grips on high as well as the high-beams. I've never had any trouble.
YMMV and all that.
Tightwad to the rescue! :warranty:
VFHarness gives you: A more robust wiring/accessory harness area. And if you choose, a fuse block with switchable relay to take the stress off the weaker areas of the stock harness. Have I got that about right, TW? :blink:
Also, you could go to led signals/taillights to 'scrounge' watts, since with the right flasher relay, would consume way less on their own.
And whenever you pop open a connection, clean up, apply dielectric grease, and make sure you resecure completely. :comp13:
Best of luck,
Greg :fing02:
[image: View Post]driver, on 03 December 2009 - 12:44 AM, said:
Okay. Here is the scenario. A couple of days ago I am on a long ride with good weather. I notice that my turn signals are no longer working (horn still works). No big deal, I keep going. I overnight at a hotel and it rains on my bike overnight. Start the bike in the morning and the idle comes up to about 3k but soon returns to normal. i eat breakfast, get back on bike and leave town. After about 1.5 hours my lights, gauges,taillight all go out. bike continues to run fine. I stop at a gas station due to heavy rain and replace blown 10 amp fuse with a 15 amp fuse ( i know, it was the smallest they had and i needed lights for the rain). All gauges and lights work for the next 3 hours in heavy rain with everything going ( grips on full blast, hi beams) No more problems for remainder of ride.
2007 VFR800 ABS
About a month ago I installed grip heaters using the license plate light wiring. This wire has its own 3 amp fuse that remained intact at all times.
I am curious about the turn signals and if this could be related somehow to the other electrical problem.
I have read the entire electrical thread and am concerned that I do not have the necessary skills to replace the wiring harness on my own. I will be doing an inspection over the next few days.
Any ideas or suggestions for electrically challenged would be appreciated. For some reason the pics on the electrical thread wouldnt pull up.
I love this bike, but if I cant trust it at night it is going to have to go
For some reason I am having this type of issues (no extra asses. stock). The bike is in my garage for the winter with a battery tender. When I went to start the bike, the lights did not work either. Did not notice at first, bike running fine. Shut the bike off and start it again. The lights stayed on so I let it warm up for a few minutes while I took out the trash. When I checked on the bike, the lights were out again bike was purring like a kitty kat. I did unplug the battery tender before starting. Started the bike up again today same thing, lights out after a few minutes. Never have had any trouble with this bike. 06 6100 miles. All fuses appear to be okay. Starts right up too!!!
oh yeah.. Happy Holidays!!!
[image: View Post]Veefer Madness, on 05 December 2009 - 11:51 AM, said:
Tightwad to the rescue! :warranty:
VFHarness gives you: A more robust wiring/accessory harness area. And if you choose, a fuse block with switchable relay to take the stress off the weaker areas of the stock harness. Have I got that about right, TW? :blink:
Also, you could go to led signals/taillights to 'scrounge' watts, since with the right flasher relay, would consume way less on their own.
And whenever you pop open a connection, clean up, apply dielectric grease, and make sure you resecure completely. :comp13:
Best of luck,
Greg :fing02:
:+1:
What he said
The lights going off is an unheard of issue to me anyway...there has to be a missing link...
For some reason I am having this type of issues (no extra asses. stock). The bike is in my garage for the winter with a battery tender. When I went to start the bike, the lights did not work either. Did not notice at first, bike running fine. Shut the bike off and start it again. The lights stayed on so I let it warm up for a few minutes while I took out the trash. When I checked on the bike, the lights were out again bike was purring like a kitty kat. I did unplug the battery tender before starting. Started the bike up again today same thing, lights out after a few minutes. Never have had any trouble with this bike. 06 6100 miles. All fuses appear to be okay. Starts right up too!!!
oh yeah.. Happy Holidays!!!
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Wierd thing about the head lights being on then turning off all of a sudden. I have an 06' with 18500 miles and no issues until today. The darn headlights went out and wouldn't come back on. I guess I will have to pull the fairings off and see what's up.
Any suggestions?
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Wierd thing about the head lights being on then turning off all of a sudden. I have an 06' with 18500 miles and no issues until today. The darn headlights went out and wouldn't come back on. I guess I will have to pull the fairings off and see what's up.
Any suggestions?
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That happened to me on a 750 Nighthawk and it turned out to be a bad solder joint on a wire in the right switch housing going to the starter button. When the starter button is pressed, the starter spins and the headlight shuts off. The wire that controlled it had broken loose. A quick soldering job fixed it right up...
Your mileage might vary, but throwing it out there as a possibility!
[image: View Post]Chaz06i, on 04 March 2010 - 03:24 PM, said:
Wierd thing about the head lights being on then turning off all of a sudden. I have an 06' with 18500 miles and no issues until today. The darn headlights went out and wouldn't come back on. I guess I will have to pull the fairings off and see what's up.
Any suggestions?
It could be that both headlights are burned out. I know it sounds unlikely that both could go at the same time, but it seems to happen surprisingly often. So before you pull the fairings, check the bulbs.
[image: View Post]driver, on 02 December 2009 - 09:44 PM, said:
Okay. Here is the scenario. A couple of days ago I am on a long ride with good weather. I notice that my turn signals are no longer working (horn still works). No big deal, I keep going. I overnight at a hotel and it rains on my bike overnight. Start the bike in the morning and the idle comes up to about 3k but soon returns to normal. i eat breakfast, get back on bike and leave town. After about 1.5 hours my lights, gauges,taillight all go out. bike continues to run fine. I stop at a gas station due to heavy rain and replace blown 10 amp fuse with a 15 amp fuse ( i know, it was the smallest they had and i needed lights for the rain). All gauges and lights work for the next 3 hours in heavy rain with everything going ( grips on full blast, hi beams) No more problems for remainder of ride.
2007 VFR800 ABS
About a month ago I installed grip heaters using the license plate light wiring. This wire has its own 3 amp fuse that remained intact at all times.
I am curious about the turn signals and if this could be related somehow to the other electrical problem.
I have read the entire electrical thread and am concerned that I do not have the necessary skills to replace the wiring harness on my own. I will be doing an inspection over the next few days.
Any ideas or suggestions for electrically challenged would be appreciated. For some reason the pics on the electrical thread wouldnt pull up.
I love this bike, but if I cant trust it at night it is going to have to go
I had mine wired up the exact same way & had it blow the light fuse too about a month ago. Found that the left grip heater had shorted out. I relpaced both of the grip heaters and installed an inline 5amp fuse on the grip heaters & everything is great now. I did buy a relay but never had to install it yet. I am running LED turn signals & brake lights though!
Good Luck & let us know what you find.
Which brand of grip heaters do you have?
[image: View Post]BrittC, on 04 March 2010 - 02:41 PM, said:
Wierd thing about the head lights being on then turning off all of a sudden. I have an 06' with 18500 miles and no issues until today. The darn headlights went out and wouldn't come back on. I guess I will have to pull the fairings off and see what's up.
Any suggestions?
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That happened to me on a 750 Nighthawk and it turned out to be a bad solder joint on a wire in the right switch housing going to the starter button. When the starter button is pressed, the starter spins and the headlight shuts off. The wire that controlled it had broken loose. A quick soldering job fixed it right up...
Your mileage might vary, but throwing it out there as a possibility!
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if one headlight blows the other follows quickly, you might have missed the first blowing
[image: View Post]checksix, on 04 March 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Chaz06i, on 04 March 2010 - 03:24 PM, said:
Wierd thing about the head lights being on then turning off all of a sudden. I have an 06' with 18500 miles and no issues until today. The darn headlights went out and wouldn't come back on. I guess I will have to pull the fairings off and see what's up.
Any suggestions?
It could be that both headlights are burned out. I know it sounds unlikely that both could go at the same time, but it seems to happen surprisingly often. So before you pull the fairings, check the bulbs.
I pulled the fairings off when I got home and checked all the connections. Everything looked good (no melted connections), so then I attacked the fuse blocks. The Fuses are all intact as well. I did notice a little corrosion on the fuses though. I tried the lights again and everything worked jsut fine. Weird... :huh:
When the new HID kit comes in, I will install Die-electric grease on the connections and everything should be perfect. Plus better light for people to see me better. :biggrin:
if one headlight blows the other follows quickly, you might have missed the first blowing
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I check the lights ritually. They were all on when I started the bike and went out while I was letting it warm up and puting my gear on.