TRON question

Watching the TRON II trailer again and noticed the green e bike had air brakes, like jet planes. Also noticed Ducati GP bike had small "winglets" on the front of the fairing.

Are active aero aids allowed in GP racing? I.e. moving wings, like the Mercedes 300 of old?

Larryu
VFRrider

They don't look to be active aero's on the ducatis.

A couple of months ago they(Speed ch. race)were showing a bike on the track with small fixed wings on the front side panels.... But I can't remember if it was a GP race or not, But I'm pretty sure it was a Ducati.........

Much like a formula car those little wings should add stability when the rubber is on the ground. However I would hope they are able to pivot. Once the front end is up..... :wheel: Recall the old designs of yesteryear? As soon as the vacum between car and ground is broken, the car took flight. Or if spun backwards a like result took place.

It would be interesting to see is someone found a loop hole. I guess as long as no one sees it as a "unfair advantage" it could be around.

Or it could be just track testing.

You have to love when your bikes are born from track testing :wink:

Here's Rossi testing his new Duc. I'm pretty sure this is still the GP10 Casey and Nick have been riding. Nick goes back and forth with the wings, I think. Casey had been using them for a little bit. They came along 1/2 or 2/3 through the season, allegedly helping get more weight on the front and keep it down easier. Casey was looking for front end feel all season, maybe they helped him as had a good run near the end of the season. Apparently they are/were legal, since they are right out there in the open!

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You have to admit it looks cool. I think my old VFR would look cool with a set of carbon-ish wings.

If you add wings to your bike you should not be allowed to wear those mohawks on your helmet, that is just too much.

[image: View Post]Monk, on 11 November 2010 - 10:57 AM, said:

A couple of months ago they(Speed ch. race)were showing a bike on the track with small fixed wings on the front side panels.... But I can't remember if it was a GP race or not, But I'm pretty sure it was a Ducati.........



...correct, I believe it was during the airing of the Indy GP Qualifing. Speed only aired the Laguna and Indy Q's. The Duc's were switching between the use of the aeros fixed onto the front side panels.
I just wasn't clear whether or not it was for cooling air flow or front tire traction.

edit..by that Rossi pic above it looks like a traction device..

edit...and it also looks like the 6th Gens Have that aero built as part of the blinker surface.

[image: View Post]flavadave98VFR800FI, on 11 November 2010 - 01:06 PM, said:

You have to admit it looks cool. I think my old VFR would look cool with a set of carbon-ish wings.

If you add wings to your bike you should not be allowed to wear those mohawks on your helmet, that is just too much.


Kind of want. Mine would have to have missiles under the wings tho;

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Here's an earlier iteration from Laguna:
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Actually a much different design to the later one on the VR test ride.

hey the 5th gen has wings!
they are orange and on every one i have i seen! :blink:
:laughing6-hehe:

Just remember wings and spoilers always add drag = lower top speed. Anyway, can we spare any MPHs on the VFRs????
.....anyway, little winglets might look good on the turn signal fairing bumps on a 4th and 3rd gen bike, :happy: .......but with any other trinkets from the past like fork tube covers and tank bras, they might look tacky after a few years. :dry:

Beck
95 VFR

[image: View Post]VFRSuperfreak, on 28 November 2010 - 06:23 PM, said:

Kind of want. Mine would have to have missiles under the wings tho;

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Psh. Those aren't missiles, they're FFARs! I mean, everybody knows that, right? Right? :unsure:

Did anyone notice that towards the end of the season the Ducati fairing has all kinds of what looked like 3/4" holes drilled in the fairing right above the clip-ons?

[image: View Post]kaldek, on 09 December 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Psh. Those aren't missiles, they're FFARs! I mean, everybody knows that, right? Right? :unsure:

FFARs........ What's that?

[image: View Post]Pete McCrary, on 09 December 2010 - 09:54 PM, said:

Did anyone notice that towards the end of the season the Ducati fairing has all kinds of what looked like 3/4" holes drilled in the fairing right above the clip-ons?

Wehhhh...........Honda's been drilling holes in their fairings for racing way back when they were even still racing late endurance racing versions orf the RC30s.
In fact the holes even made their way to the early versions of the Fireblade's front fairing panels..
Ducati's been copying Honda on many things like the SSS they put on the 916 which Honda pioneered with ELF racing many years before Ducati even thought of building the 916 and even the underseat exhaust system that first appeared on the NR750 which preceded the ones on the 916 too.....now Ducati's happy racing V4s after insisting that their big bore, V twin formula was superior over Honda's V4 for so many years in Superbike racing......

Beck
95 VFR

[image: View Post]Monk, on 09 December 2010 - 10:32 PM, said:

[image: View Post]kaldek, on 09 December 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Psh. Those aren't missiles, they're FFARs! I mean, everybody knows that, right? Right? :unsure:

FFARs........ What's that?



take your pick


FFAR
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
FFAR may refer to:
Mk 4/Mk 40 Folding-Fin Aerial Rocket
Forward firing aircraft rocket - an earlier WWII rocket
Free fatty acid receptor
:biggrin:

Dutchy ... "Forward firing aircraft rocket - an earlier WWII rocket"

Having been in fighter squadrons....They don't look like air/air, so I'd go with a/ground... But I'm not sure what those bands are around them, unless that's a show exhibit, and they're secured.

I don't think Honda/HRC can lay claim to drilling holes...