I'm going to be performing some maintenance on the bike this weekend (new tires, new chain, new sprockets, replace headlight bulb, oil and filter change) and have a couple of questions before I start taking things apart. I have searched through both the owner's manual and service manual but can't find specific answers to these.
Does anyone know what size socket I need to remove the front sprocket? A friend said it could be as large as 32 - 34mm, which I don't currently have. Neither manual specify the size. I want to make sure I've got the right socket to perform the job before I start taking things apart.
One of my low-beam headlights is out. Both manuals just indicate I need a 12v - 55w bulb. I've seen conflicting information as to whether it's an H4 or an H7.
Also, if anyone has any tips or suggestions on replacing chain & sprockets that might not be in the service manual let me know.
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 15 June 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:
Does anyone know what size socket I need to remove the front sprocket? A friend said it could be as large as 32 - 34mm, which I don't currently have. Neither manual specify the size. I want to make sure I've got the right socket to perform the job before I start taking things apart.
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 15 June 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:
I'm going to be performing some maintenance on the bike this weekend (new tires, new chain, new sprockets, replace headlight bulb, oil and filter change) and have a couple of questions before I start taking things apart. I have searched through both the owner's manual and service manual but can't find specific answers to these.
Does anyone know what size socket I need to remove the front sprocket? A friend said it could be as large as 32 - 34mm, which I don't currently have. Neither manual specify the size. I want to make sure I've got the right socket to perform the job before I start taking things apart.
One of my low-beam headlights is out. Both manuals just indicate I need a 12v - 55w bulb. I've seen conflicting information as to whether it's an H4 or an H7.
Also, if anyone has any tips or suggestions on replacing chain & sprockets that might not be in the service manual let me know.
Pull the bulb take to car parts give it to the peep working there.........The drive sprocket is small no worries.......When you pull off the drive sprocket cover keep the bolts in order (diff- lengths)...and putting the cover back on be careful with the placement of the speed knob(female nut that tracks your speed with each turn of the drive sprocket nut) that covers the drive sprocket nut. If you start tightening the cover plate without having the DSN inside the speed knob you'll mess it up....Not to worry just watch that it's on right(it fits like a socket on a nut).
It's easier to put the master link on if you have the two ends of the chain meeting on,& at the backside of the rear sprocket.
1st step: put bike in gear loosen the front sprocket drive nut BEFORE cutting chain....Same with rear sprocket nuts.
[image: View Post]panamawing, on 15 June 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 15 June 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:
Does anyone know what size socket I need to remove the front sprocket? A friend said it could be as large as 32 - 34mm, which I don't currently have. Neither manual specify the size. I want to make sure I've got the right socket to perform the job before I start taking things apart.
I believe it is more like a 14mm socket.......
It is a 14mm socket.
[image: View Post]Monk, on 15 June 2011 - 06:06 PM, said:
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 15 June 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:
1st step: put bike in gear loosen the front sprocket drive nut BEFORE cutting chain....Same with rear sprocket nuts.
This. The importance cannot be overstated - unless you like feeding old grungy cut-up chain back through the guards and covers so you can get some &%&^$# tension on it and keep the sprockets from turning. Goes for the back sprocket, too.
Look at the parts the manual says to replace and decide (or ask around here) if you think you need to. My slave cylinder gasket got boogered up pulling that off, and not one of 8 dealers around had one in stock.
Speaking of pulling that off, it helped me to loosen the coolant overflow bottle (just one bolt) so you can pivot it and give the water pump hose more room so the clutch slave can come off.
the low beam is DEFINITELY an H4. Oh yeah, do yourself a favour, change both left and right. The second is not far behind...you'll see...if you don't change at same time that is. 10$ each at the car parts store.
Thanks for all the tips. I've got a friend coming over tomorrow to give me a hand but I've been doing a bit of work each evening to try to get things as ready as possible. I've gotten the rear sprocket loose (thanks to leaving it in gear) and the headlight bulbs are swapped out.
I do have one more question.
The section fo the service manual that deals with the drive sprocket removal references another section of the service manual for the clutch slave cylinder removal. That section says I need to drain the clutch fluid to remove the slave cylinder. Is that really necessary? Can't I just pull the slave cylinder for the time it takes to do the chain and then just put it back? I'm kind of thinking that as long as no one grabs the clutch lever I should be okay.
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 17 June 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:
Thanks for all the tips. I've got a friend coming over tomorrow to give me a hand but I've been doing a bit of work each evening to try to get things as ready as possible. I've gotten the rear sprocket loose (thanks to leaving it in gear) and the headlight bulbs are swapped out.
I do have one more question.
The section fo the service manual that deals with the drive sprocket removal references another section of the service manual for the clutch slave cylinder removal. That section says I need to drain the clutch fluid to remove the slave cylinder. Is that really necessary? Can't I just pull the slave cylinder for the time it takes to do the chain and then just put it back? I'm kind of thinking that as long as no one grabs the clutch lever I should be okay.
There may be a way to do it, but no one touched my clutch lever and the piston still popped out, dumping about a half-pint of fluid on me. :owned:
I probably wasn't gentle enough trying to remove it, or or quick enough in turning it piston-up.
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 17 June 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:
I do have one more question.
The section fo the service manual that deals with the drive sprocket removal references another section of the service manual for the clutch slave cylinder removal. That section says I need to drain the clutch fluid to remove the slave cylinder. Is that really necessary? Can't I just pull the slave cylinder for the time it takes to do the chain and then just put it back? I'm kind of thinking that as long as no one grabs the clutch lever I should be okay.
NO!!! It's complete BS!! Don't drain the fluid, and Don't remove the slave from the countershaft cover!
As was mentioned above, it's very easy to remove the coolant overflow, and fold/hang it out of the way, then remove the countershaft cover with the slave in place and fold it forward, then do your cleaning and chain replacing. I've done this at least a dozen times, and every time I think about why on earth they ever thought it would be a good idea to do all that extra work??? :comp13:
When you get the slave cylinder off, quickly hold the piston in and wrap
The whole thing tightly in several rounds of electrical tape to prevent the piston from creeping out of it's bore, which will happen
Shortly if left unattended. You can do it without draining the system, just takes a little engine-uity! Lol
[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 17 June 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:
When you get the slave cylinder off, quickly hold the piston in and wrap
The whole thing tightly in several rounds of electrical tape to prevent the piston from creeping out of it's bore, which will happen
Shortly if left unattended. You can do it without draining the system, just takes a little engine-uity! Lol
There's a miracle invention called zip-ties which fixes this in one easy step. Remove slave cylinder, wrap cylinder with zip-tie using the bolt holes to secure it - job done!
[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 17 June 2011 - 10:11 PM, said:
NO!!! It's complete BS!! Don't drain the fluid, and Don't remove the slave from the countershaft cover!
As was mentioned above, it's very easy to remove the coolant overflow, and fold/hang it out of the way, then remove the countershaft cover with the slave in place and fold it forward, then do your cleaning and chain replacing. I've done this at least a dozen times, and every time I think about why on earth they ever thought it would be a good idea to do all that extra work??? :comp13:
Excellent! I followed your advice and everything seems to be working as advertised. Thanks again to everyone for all the advice. The Service Manual is a great resource, but sometimes it seems to go a little overboard in what you need to do to perform relatively simple procedures.
From what I read I'm going to need some brake cleaner to get some of that gunk out of there. Off to the auto parts store.
[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 17 June 2011 - 10:11 PM, said:
[image: View Post]SpiralGray, on 17 June 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:
I do have one more question.
The section fo the service manual that deals with the drive sprocket removal references another section of the service manual for the clutch slave cylinder removal. That section says I need to drain the clutch fluid to remove the slave cylinder. Is that really necessary? Can't I just pull the slave cylinder for the time it takes to do the chain and then just put it back? I'm kind of thinking that as long as no one grabs the clutch lever I should be okay.
NO!!! It's complete BS!! Don't drain the fluid, and Don't remove the slave from the countershaft cover!
As was mentioned above, it's very easy to remove the coolant overflow, and fold/hang it out of the way, then remove the countershaft cover with the slave in place and fold it forward, then do your cleaning and chain replacing. I've done this at least a dozen times, and every time I think about why on earth they ever thought it would be a good idea to do all that extra work??? :comp13:
+-1 .......no reason to remove the clutch slave unit from the cover.
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