While washing my bike i noticed there is a hose clamp and what appears to be a piece of garden hose or something wraped around the secondary master cylinder, i dont know if this has something to do that the rear brake does not feel very responsive, on most bikes i've ridden specially sport bikes, its very easy to lock the rear wheel if i push the rear brake hard, on this vfr no matter how hard i push the rear brakes it wont lock up the wheel nor stop quickly i use both brakes. i kinda like it cuz its scary when the rear locks up but i wonder if this is OK, Should i remove the hose clamp and see why is it there? i dont know if it is preventing the secondary master cylinder from moving or just covering it from the dust how can i test if it is working? i dont want to mess around and screw something, its been like this since i got her and i dont want to have any troubles or leaks you know what they say, if its not broken dont fix it.
this bike is a non-abs model and i kinda like the way the brakes feel as most sport bikes i've riden is easy to lock both brakes and on this bike, brakes work really work for stoping the bike and so far i have never locked up any of the wheels
Yeah, a pic would be the thing. Which master cylinder are you referring to as "the secondary master cylinder"? The one near the rear of the gas tank under the seat?
As far as not being able to lock up the rear. I couldn't either on my '99, well maybe if I would have really stood on the rear brake lever. Now that I have steel brake lines and EBC HH brake pads I can actually feel the rear brake doing something. I still don't know if I could lock it up, but it certainly contributes more than it used to. Personally I think it is more the choice of brake pads rather than the new brake lines, but I could be wrong.
[image: View Post]FJ12Ryder, on 18 October 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:
Yeah, a pic would be the thing. Which master cylinder are you referring to as "the secondary master cylinder"? The one near the rear of the gas tank under the seat?
As far as not being able to lock up the rear. I couldn't either on my '99, well maybe if I would have really stood on the rear brake lever. Now that I have steel brake lines and EBC HH brake pads I can actually feel the rear brake doing something. I still don't know if I could lock it up, but it certainly contributes more than it used to. Personally I think it is more the choice of brake pads rather than the new brake lines, but I could be wrong.
At least initially the EBC pads seem to have significant greater stopping power/response than the OEM front pads. I just replaced mine and looking at the old OEM pads, I probably had another 10,000 miles left on them. However I'm glad I replaced them, because the difference is remarkable.
That's what I thought when I read it.
It's weird!
Either Ronimal's theory is correct, or the cylinder was leaking and the PO didn't want to replace it and tried to seal it up?
Take it off and see what happens...?
Firstly the link brake system most of the time shouldn't lock rear wheel but if you change down & stand on back brake it will, it is also reason the rear pads are a different part number to the front as the rear doesn't use sintered pads to also help stop locking rear brake. The rear brake lever operates 2 pistons rear calliper & one piston LHS front calliper on the vtec. The RHS front calliper mounted master cylinder in picture only operates one piston rear calliper & only operates when front brakes used.
What you have as repair or whatever on your calliper mounted master cylinder isn't cause of rear brake not locking but it looks very dodgy & someone might have put that there because the master failed or leaked but that is all guessing, I would be having a mechanic look at it asap if your not skilled in such things because you don't want that falling apart.
Put it up on the center stand. When you take off the clamp push the caliper forward and see if anything is leaking.
If that looks ok, spin the rear wheel and push the caliper and make sure it stops the rear from turning.
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