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Here's another reason to wear leather:
http://www.cmyoung.com/bikewreck.html
http://www.cmyoung.com/bikewreck.html
Take a walk through the Med-Surg or Rehabilitation wings if you wanna see what the pain looks like. Take a walk through the Intensive Care or Trauma section's if you wanna see what the death looks like.
I spent the last six months on the Med-Surg floor. When looking at IPOC's, the MVC (motor vehicle collision) comes up more often than not. Whenever one of my peers got that code w/t a "motorcycle" sketched in, I would take it from them. Kinda hits close to home w/t stunning realities to witness about what that road out there can do to an individual's body. Out of several cases, I not once saw a person who WAS in full gear. Some had half or one-fourth gear on though. At least those covered sections of body made it through their' collisions unscathed...Boots are very important. When that foot takes a hit..very nasty stuff. Seems as though noone wears gloves either. You should see how functional a hand looks after it has been rubbed clean down to the bones!
Later, Ian
I spent the last six months on the Med-Surg floor. When looking at IPOC's, the MVC (motor vehicle collision) comes up more often than not. Whenever one of my peers got that code w/t a "motorcycle" sketched in, I would take it from them. Kinda hits close to home w/t stunning realities to witness about what that road out there can do to an individual's body. Out of several cases, I not once saw a person who WAS in full gear. Some had half or one-fourth gear on though. At least those covered sections of body made it through their' collisions unscathed...Boots are very important. When that foot takes a hit..very nasty stuff. Seems as though noone wears gloves either. You should see how functional a hand looks after it has been rubbed clean down to the bones!
Later, Ian
I wear full leathers and a helmet all year.........even in the Summer. I get pretty hot and sweaty sometimes, which means drinking lots of water. The discomfort in the warmer months is worth the added safety. I once bought a textile jacket, but sent it back to the dealer in exchange for a perforated leather jacket.
Road rash sucks hard. Don't believe me, try it yourself.
Leather can prevent road rash. Any questions? :rolleyes:
Leather can prevent road rash. Any questions? :rolleyes:
Funny this thread should be tonight.
It was a gorgeous uncharacteristically warm day in Boulder, Colorado. Some friends decided to take a little jaunt up one of the canyons, to Peak to Peak Highway. Everyone was out, bikes, cars, bicyclists. Because of the increased traffic, I was being hyper-vigilant, but still having fun.
It's all fun until you come through a blind corner into mountain shadow, and there is running water across the roadway in January. It's even worse when teh Ducati in front of you, with a freshly rebuilt motor, on its first maiden journey, loses the back end on ICE where you thought it was water, and the rider snaps over the handlebars in a high-side onto his face.
My friend's Arai helmet is ruined, totally flat and crushed on the chinbar, shield and forehead. It didn't prevent him from getting a gnarly consussion and some immediate memory loss. But, he has his face, and not broken bones.
We were only going about 30 when the getoff happened. I was no more than one foot on the outside of his line. I rode through water, he went through 1/4" ice. That made all of the difference.
Paramedic, state troopers, ambulance, notifying and getting the wife, CAT scan, doctors, truck to get the Duck, all of the what-if conversations. It's been a big day.
We only got 30 miles into our ride.
My friend was wearing the best helmet, gloves and boots, the same gear that many here use. He had a new Aerostitch on. No broken bones, no contusions or hemmhoraging. Only plastic and brake lever and mirror damage to the Ducati. It gould have been a lot worse. I have no doubt that without a better than good helmet, and a full-face helmet expecially, that he would have been dead without that protection. I can imagine all of the facial bones turning to soup under that kind of force.
It is still January. Be careful out there, and stay out of the mountains.
It was a gorgeous uncharacteristically warm day in Boulder, Colorado. Some friends decided to take a little jaunt up one of the canyons, to Peak to Peak Highway. Everyone was out, bikes, cars, bicyclists. Because of the increased traffic, I was being hyper-vigilant, but still having fun.
It's all fun until you come through a blind corner into mountain shadow, and there is running water across the roadway in January. It's even worse when teh Ducati in front of you, with a freshly rebuilt motor, on its first maiden journey, loses the back end on ICE where you thought it was water, and the rider snaps over the handlebars in a high-side onto his face.
My friend's Arai helmet is ruined, totally flat and crushed on the chinbar, shield and forehead. It didn't prevent him from getting a gnarly consussion and some immediate memory loss. But, he has his face, and not broken bones.
We were only going about 30 when the getoff happened. I was no more than one foot on the outside of his line. I rode through water, he went through 1/4" ice. That made all of the difference.
Paramedic, state troopers, ambulance, notifying and getting the wife, CAT scan, doctors, truck to get the Duck, all of the what-if conversations. It's been a big day.
We only got 30 miles into our ride.
My friend was wearing the best helmet, gloves and boots, the same gear that many here use. He had a new Aerostitch on. No broken bones, no contusions or hemmhoraging. Only plastic and brake lever and mirror damage to the Ducati. It gould have been a lot worse. I have no doubt that without a better than good helmet, and a full-face helmet expecially, that he would have been dead without that protection. I can imagine all of the facial bones turning to soup under that kind of force.
It is still January. Be careful out there, and stay out of the mountains.
I always ride with leather pants when in the twisties, and at a minimum, leather mesh jacket in the heat. Good boots will also protect your ankles in a getoff.
Bouldergeek,
Sorry to hear about your friend. I hope all will be well with him. I was also riding Boulder canyon that day. I must have been in front of you a bit. (red VFR w/bags) I saw the trooper and then the ambulance heading up the canyon. I know what you mean about the wet roads in the shadows-gave me a few pucker moments myself. I always wear full gear no matter what the temp...
Ride safe...Wear gear.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I hope all will be well with him. I was also riding Boulder canyon that day. I must have been in front of you a bit. (red VFR w/bags) I saw the trooper and then the ambulance heading up the canyon. I know what you mean about the wet roads in the shadows-gave me a few pucker moments myself. I always wear full gear no matter what the temp...
Ride safe...Wear gear.
Seems as though noone wears gloves either.
That's odd... helmet and gloves are the two pieces of gear I won't ride without.
When I had a low-side those were the only two pieces of gear I had... My left knee and hands were the first things to hit pavement before I rolled and I can't imagine how awful it would be if I had the same kind of nasty scar on my hands as I do on that left knee. And it took well over a year for that scar to stop being insanely painful whenever it bumped into anything.
BTW I bought full warm weather gear after that spill, and wear it everytime I'm gonna be riding more than a couple miles.
Yea, those scars can hurt for some time! Had a scar on my knee from dirt riding once. That thing just shot painful impulses at even minor bumps for many months after the initial healing process was complete. I remember my dog bumping that knee, I fell down because of the pain!
Later, Ian
Later, Ian
NEOhioVFR, Jul 20 2004, 10:21 AM
Sore Butt!
My apologies if this has been up before but it is a good reminder...... :doh:
YARK!!! I know what that feels like... warning pic below is graphic...
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3...heelieCrash.JPG
BLS: What the heck happened to give you that?
Ack...
Looks like something out of Silence of the Lambs...
or Blair Witch Project :goofy:
Looks like something out of Silence of the Lambs...
or Blair Witch Project :goofy:
BusyLittleShop, Mar 3 2005, 07:16 PMYARK!!! I know what that feels like... warning pic below is graphic...
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3...heelieCrash.JPG
For some reason I have no sympathy for this Chris moron. Might have been the Bush propaganda in 24pt font.
Idiot never did tell us HOW he went down?
Idiot never did tell us HOW he went down?
BOBINOTTAWA, Mar 3 2005, 06:24 PM
BLS: What the heck happened to give you that?
I was having a wheelie nice day... it all started as I bet Lee J a bottle Boone Farms that I could out wheelie him... well I had my 350 Big Horn Kawasaki up on the back wheel in first then second and finally third but as I rolled off the gas I got that sickening feeling of continuing over backwards... I was beyond the balancing point... mean old mister gravity took over from there... I totaled the bike... I bought Lee J a bottle of wine... I got turn down for reenlistment by the USAF... I got flat spots on my cheek bottoms as my only reward...
BusyLittleShop, Mar 3 2005, 11:37 PMI was having a wheelie nice day... it all started as I bet Lee J a bottle Boone Farms that I could out wheelie him... well I had my 350 Big Horn Kawasaki up on the back wheel in first then second and finally third but as I rolled off the gas I got that sickening feeling of continuing over backwards... I was beyond the balancing point... mean old mister gravity took over from there... I totaled the bike... I bought Lee J a bottle of wine... I got turn down for reenlistment by the USAF... I got flat spots on my cheek bottoms as my only reward...
You might want to try tapping the rear brake when the front end gets too high, has always worked for me. :wheel:
Hurricane249, Mar 4 2005, 01:08 AMYou might want to try tapping the rear brake when the front end gets too high, has always worked for me. :wheel:
i concur..... :beer: last thing you want to do is just panick and let it continue on over. makes for a good laugh though (provided injuries are maintained to a minimum)
Kingobikes, Jul 21 2004, 02:40 AMHere's another reason to wear leather:
http://www.cmyoung.com/bikewreck.html
Did you read the comments after the right up.... about the 16 year old who is going to buy a 2004 'busa.....
16 years old!!!!
Hurricane249, Mar 3 2005, 11:08 PM
You might want to try tapping the rear brake when the front end gets too high, has always worked for me. :wheel:
That is a neat trick but 1971 pre dates Doug Domokos the wheelie king and the father of the rear brake save...
BusyLittleShop, Mar 4 2005, 12:24 AMThat is a neat trick but 1971 pre dates Doug Domokos the wheelie king and the father of the rear brake save...
I was doing it on my dirt bike in 1970. Of course when you are four years old and you are about to land on your head you just want to stop and four year old logic is brakes equal stop, grabbing both brakes had adverse consequences when the front wheel came down however. Only took about three of those before I realized the front break was useless when front wheel was off the ground. :lol:
Hurricane249, Mar 4 2005, 08:38 AM
I was doing it on my dirt bike in 1970. Of course when you are four years old and you are about to land on your head you just want to stop and four year old logic is brakes equal stop, grabbing both brakes had adverse consequences when the front wheel came down however. Only took about three of those before I realized the front break was useless when front wheel was off the ground. :lol:
That's impressive for a 4 year old... if only you knew that method could lead to the AMA Hall of Fame...
Wheelie King Hall of Fame...
BusyLittleShop, Mar 4 2005, 12:42 PMThat's impressive for a 4 year old... if only you knew that method could lead to the AMA Hall of Fame...
Wheelie King Hall of Fame...
apparently he used the wrong brakes while flying. somehow i believe using rear brakes for attitude control on motorcycles (ie...MX) came way before domokos used it as side show routine
767fixer, Mar 4 2005, 11:26 AM
apparently he used the wrong brakes while flying. somehow i believe using rear brakes for attitude control on motorcycles (ie...MX) came way before domokos used it as side show routine
I agree... I think it occur to a lot of riders about the same time but no one championed the technique like Doug...
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