Circumstances surrounding members personal-land-speed-record acheivements.
In the spirit of the How Low Can You Go here is an opportunity (trap) to achieve personal fame by explaining the event.
When I asked, semi-jokingly, how speed-freaks did their 100+ wind chill runs, some interesting feedback was presented. It gave me the idea to see if there were stories of high speed out there. So give us yours.
First, the rules:
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- THIS MUST ALL BE FICTION.!
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- Please post speeds in mph (feel free to add kph if desired)
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- Ride length does not matter, around the block, across the state; It all counts.
- Suggest describing historical events only; not contemporary attempts to achieve higher a listing.
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Unlike the How Low Can You Go list, riders are discouraged from pushing your limits. ALWAYS ride within your limits. Remember: this machine can rip your limbs off.
The intention of this thread is to share information and tips on high speed (within the speed limit of course) riding. Insight into what other riders do pertaining to this subject that is at the heart of all our interests in these fabulous machines.
This could be consider a lessons learned forum as well. We can all learn from YOUR mistakes (which are not allowed) and help each of us avoid same in the future.
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Timmy .... The site has your "number"........ (requires reading).
Not that I have done any speeds on a bike that will leave ppl in awe........ 130 on a track of course.....
I was homebound to Minnesota from a trip to Yosmite NP in Calf. Headed east across the Nev. desert toward Cedar City, Ut. It was a state hwy, two lane, straight and flat for 10 to 20 miles at a stretch. My '01 was loaded with two 41 liter Givi hard bags. And the road was deserted, warm, dry and sunny. So, I thought this would be the perfect place to raise my personal land speed record. Before this it had been 130. So I set out for 145. 120..130.. all was fine. Scenery was becoming a blur. Did that for several miles. Next piece of road looked particularly good so I started cranking towards 145. Just over 140 the bike started shaking so I held it there for a short while and figured out it was wind buffeting and decided that, with the hard bags, there was just too much windage and backed down to a cruzing speed between 100 and 120. Still in the middle of zero-where, I found a place to camp in the desert. In the morning, while waiting for my coffee pot, I decided to check the tires- for the first time of the trip. The hair on the back of my neck went vertical when I saw a 3 inch patch of cord, an inch wide, in the middle of my back tire. Hole - ey shit! That freaked me so that I rode the 100 miles to Cedar City, where I knew I could get a tire, never going over 50, keeping a close eye on the tire and looking for "soft-landing" patches in the rocky desert along the sholder. I did mak it w/o incident. The tire tech explained that, out west, they use a heavier aggregate in the tarmac that wears tires out much faster than "out east'. My tires had word about twice as fast as the would have back home. They were duel compound.
I'll never take my tire condition for granted again.
We have several roads that allow these "max out" style speed runs. Now I normally ride with pure sport bike guys, and my substansial amount of amatuer racing allows me to keep up with them and often pass them in the twisties. But as we would all attest the 6th Gen. VFR was not built for pure all out speed. So the pure sports bikes always seem to pull away when the road turns straight. My personal best, and I've tried to top it several times is 162 mph; as indicated on speedo,(260 km/h; us Canadians are metric remember). This speed was accomplish a few times always on the same road which is arguably the flattest piece of blacktop we have around my riding area. There is no grade in the road, and no wind of any kind when this speed was achieved. All of that being said, a good friend of mine on his 2010 GSX-R 1000 manage to hit his electronically governed speed cut off of 299km/h in fifth gear that day. Seems Suzuki put a sixth gear on that bike just for show.
That's a great story Max with a good message. My personal fastest is probably on the track but I had the VFR's speedo disabled and my track bike has none. However on two separate occasions returning to Spokane from Bellevue on a straight lonely stretch of highway 28 between Odessa and Harrington I got up to 145mph on the speedo (subtract 10%, -15 = 130) . That was with loaded sidecases. No lessons learned...
Talledega racetrack mid 80's rg500 gamma mk 9 turned 187 mph and thought holy crap is this ever fast ,ran tz250's and ccm 250s to 155 at some tracks elkhart lake road atlanta mosport
Twice within a month when I first bought my then 6 year old, 1200 mile '97 - I hit an indicated 150 mph. Within 3 miles of my house is about a 4 mile run on divided 4 lane, exceptional long distance visibility, only two cross roads - also visible from long distance, no trees or other cover for animals (or Timmy) anywhere near the roadway. I have to mention how stable the whole event seemed. No shaking, no vibrations, confident steering, very sureal. ok, and a bit less than responsible. I did have enough sence to back it off at the 150 mark. I would LIKE to know the max, but I don't NEED to know the max.
Since that time, I'll crack 100 from time to time when I'm out in an area all alone just to say I did it and then back it way off.
And then returning from a recent solo loop to SoCal on a finely finished stretch of black top in the Four Corners area, I decided to see if I could still wring it out of her. This time she had 40k on her and the additional drag of soft saddle bags and a large JC Whitney trunk. If I went down in the open desert, it may have been a while before I was even found, let alone "rescued". But with open terrain and asphalt so fresh, it hadn't even been striped, I decided it was as good a time as any. Holy Crap! She indicated 150 again. We all know the speedos are off but there is still plenty of pull at that point if you have the room to run it out.
I rarely have use for anything more than 125 on the street, But topend run about 145 on the vfr on the flat, Im really not a speed freak , so setting land speed record or anything like that , I have no interest in. Im more into exploiting obsticals.
[image: View Post]TWIST, on 19 January 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:
We have several roads that allow these "max out" style speed runs. Now I normally ride with pure sport bike guys, and my substansial amount of amatuer racing allows me to keep up with them and often pass them in the twisties. But as we would all attest the 6th Gen. VFR was not built for pure all out speed. So the pure sports bikes always seem to pull away when the road turns straight. My personal best, and I've tried to top it several times is 162 mph; as indicated on speedo,(260 km/h; us Canadians are metric remember). This speed was accomplish a few times always on the same road which is arguably the flattest piece of blacktop we have around my riding area. There is no grade in the road, and no wind of any kind when this speed was achieved. All of that being said, a good friend of mine on his 2010 GSX-R 1000 manage to hit his electronically governed speed cut off of 299km/h in fifth gear that day. Seems Suzuki put a sixth gear on that bike just for show.
Hey what road did you do this on. I live close to you and was wondering where it is.
Last August my Dad (2012 Goldwing), my brother (2011 Ninja 1000), and myself (2010 VFR1200F) took a 2 day ride up the eastern shore of Lake Michigan from Muskegon area to Leggs Inn and back. We stopped at a rest area north of Muskegon for a "break." My brother and I had a chat about wicking it up a bit on the expressway. There is plenty of straight road with very little traffic on that stretch of highway. Our Dad agreed he would catch us in a while. We hit the on ramp and eased it up to 70, checked our mirrors and hit it. He dropped me. I was in 6th and he was in 3rd. Oops. It took the big v-four a bit to build some steam in 6th. Then I started to reel him in. He held it at about a buck thirty, in the right lane. I went by somewhere north of a buck fiddy in the left lane. He rolled on some more and we kept it over 130 with some hits on 150+ for 15 miles or so. If we rolled on at 130, I could walk away in that operating range with relative ease. Well, at that speed, the miles click by kinda quick. We pulled over and he wondered why he dropped me initially. I told him I was in 6th. We tried some roll ons later in the trip. The bikes are fairly evenly matched in a roll on with a slight edge to the bigger displacement VFR. The Ninja is a lighter, quicker handling bike, but we roll through the twisties at a similar pace. If you roll out of a turn in the correct power range and pull the trigger, the VFR has it.
It was a great trip for the three of us. Oh, we didn't catch one car that during that supersonic run. Weird. The big VFR is a bullet train though. Fast and dead azz stable. That's not why I bought it, but it was fun.
The fifth gen vfr I saw around 143 iirc. The sixth gen i've seen in the mid 130s at a couple of tracks. I don't know exactly as i usually am looking for my braking marks. Fastest i've seen was on a unnamed road in south/central florida. Got a chance to feel what a BUILT suzuki Hyabusa prepped for a flying mile felt like. I let off at 209 on the gps. I am not sure what it would have gone to, but the speed was still climbing. Don't remember how much it was punched out, but it did have about everything done to it. New cams, crank, pistons, valves, exhaust...drilled rear rotor, al and ti bolts everywhere. it was just missing spray and/or forced induction. Best part it was still "street legal" with all the lights on it. Fun night.
Its the last 4-5km streach of highway 19. The 4 lane highway ends in Campbell River, so as you come out of Campbell River its a slight rise then the road flattens out for about 4-5kms and its dead straight. It'll be like that until the Hamm Rd. connector then it will twist and dive, but its a great place in the summer time to let it rip. Not too many cops, and the black top is fresh and sticky. Twist the grip and hold on...
[image: View Post]Monk, on 19 January 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:
Then there was the time I was sitting on the ground, and in less than a few seconds I was flying though the air on the way up at over 130 mph.
Hmmm...Fulton Sky Hook? (If it is...Cool!)
[image: View Post]rangemaster, on 20 January 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Monk, on 19 January 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:
Then there was the time I was sitting on the ground, and in less than a few seconds I was flying though the air on the way up at over 130 mph.
Hmmm...Fulton Sky Hook? (If it is...Cool!)
149mph on German Autobahn a few years ago.
131mph last year, with luggage on back.... (and a bit heavier myself...)
Redslut will not go any faster.....
Grattan Racetrack has a fairly long straight section. Long enough I could've maxed out the bike's speed if I had wanted to. I never got above 120, however, for one simple reason.
EVERY MPH ADDED AT HIGH SPEED REQUIRES A LOT MORE BRAKING THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT.
This is one of the reasons I encourage track days for everyone, even if only once. The difference in how hard it is to slow down quickly between 90-100 mph is pronounced. Between 100-110 it is difficult, between 110-120 it is extreme, it just goes up from there.
At these speeds a deer doesn't have to run out directly in front of you to ruin your day.
Let's keep this at the track.
Bambi and I have a plan all worked out for the case of meeting at elevated speeds: we will swap motor/guts and both just keep on going! We both like to plan ahead - his on my windscreen.
[image: View Post]Baileyrock, on 20 January 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:
I did three hits of Acid one day and.... Oh that's a different thread! :ph34r:
BR: three hits of speed would be appropriate for THIS thread.
Many years ago, an indicated 140 when my younger brother on his SRAD and I on my 4th gen had to suddenly squirt away from a doofuss driver that was swerving all over the road and got too close to our tails......and the VFR was still accelerating nicely when I looked at the speedo and eased off the throttle..... Except for the very strong, deafening windblast, the bike was 100% stable and planted at that speed.
By the way,......this is all fiction....believe me Mr. Insurance man!..........
The following weekend after I picked up my mistress we took a trip to Spokane about 320 miles to surprise Mom for mothers day. I was following a truck with a lightbar for about 100 miles at approx 110mph and when he turned off(it was a coroners truck) I took her up to about 135 indicated, then slowed down to a more sedate pace for the rest of the trip. She was very stable and felt right at home at speed!
chased a lady cop in her cruiser (no lights on, lady was just in a big hurry. wouldn't that be illegal tim?) about 4-5 car lengths behind up the 215FWY towards devore. I NEVER hit 130mph dodging and weaving with her through light traffic either.
nope.
and i NEVER EVER broke off the "chase" at 138mph after i missed my exit.
I've hit an indicated 240 KPH on my CBR600 (so fark knows what it really was) On a group ride on the New Englad highway about 30 clicks south of Tamworth. My riding buddy had overtaken me about 4 kays back while I was languishing behind a semi, waiting to (legally) overtake, he chose the double line option. Took me a while to catch up, came around a corner & found him tacked onto a conga line of about 8-10 bikes. Straight bit of road, slight down hill run, so in the spur of the moment I went for it. Got a few reactions from the other riders (you know, when a bike shoots past that you don't hear & you can't help but flinch). As I passed the last bike I noticed the up coming left hander (posted at 60kph). So much for spur of the moment. Good buzz, but I don't know if it was hitting that speed or surviving the corner. Glanced in my mirrors & their was my idiot mate behind me & I knew he was grinning, cahn.
'02 with a K&N and Staintunes, other than that, stock. Mild grade uphill, cool night air, no wind and no additional load(I weigh roughly 215 + gear). Saw an indicated 143, it felt like the bike was barely working, smooth and steady, no drama. I was running up on cars ahead so I backed off. I see 100+ regularly, well, often. In my opinion the bike should be good for an actual 150+, no proof, just speculation.
[image: View Post]MRChickhabit, on 20 January 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:
I totally NEVER . . .
(no lights on, lady was just in a big hurry. wouldn't that be illegal tim?).
By rule legal, but improper. I too get behind police cars on the highway when they are going fast with no lights and I always wonder if they are going to get me. But at least I have a good conversation starter if they do :ph34r:
Top of 6th gear on a 1986 VFR750, about 153 MPH IIRC.
Top of 6th gear on a VFR800, about 155 MPH, IIRC.
But not in a REALLY LooooooooNG time.
I've grown up. Anything over 120 is pretty much the same for me now, the allure of "What'll she do?" has been replaced by: "What if a Deer runs out of the ditch?"
Also, years ago, my sister-in-law wanted me to diagnose a high-speed wobble on her RD350LC. Stoopid me thought the only way to do that was at HIGH SPEED. :rolleyes:
Took it for a blast thru the gears, got it well over 100 MPH, thing started shaking like a paint mixer, threatening to go into a tankslapper.
AFTERWARDS, I inspected the bike from front to back and discovered the castellated axle nut was missing. Like as in not there. At all.
The only thing holding the rear axle in was faith. That was a sobering moment. Anything can happen, and often does.
Speed doesn't kill, it's the rate at which speed diminishes. I had my BIG near-death crash at less than 50 MPH. Cars aren't made of Nerf.
167 Mph (270 km/h) on a German Autobahn. Last summer on a early sundaymorning. Very few traffic on the road. It's legal. But maybe not very wise.....
It was on odo...so it must be corrected bij 10%.....I think
Still.....it was not all she could do.....it was in 5th gear.....one to go...
But than.........the Dutch boarder was allready in sight. So I had to slow down dramaticly........max 74 mph is allowed in Holland.
[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 19 January 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:
I passed Travis once at 123mph in the rain. It is on tape somewhere.
'Tis true. I think Timmy was trying to get back at me for leading him up and down Goat F&*@ Road in the Catskills. Didn't matter though, as I passed him in turn, two up, at approximately the same velocity. :fing02:
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Nashville Super Speedway, night time Track Day.
02 F4i, 6th gear at rev-limiter-14k rpm going thru the Tri-Oval.
Back in 00 on my 00 VFR I was with two R1's, a GSXR 1k and a F4i who wanted to do a top end run on a n open long clear 4-lane. I saw 155 and lots of dust!
I had only finished building this bike from a total a month before and was thinking "what the hell am I doing?" and backed off. :ohmy:
My Triumph used to hit ludicrus speeds, 175 mph doing through the city, only problem the speed sensor picks up from the countershaft like most modern bikes so in reality I never been over 135 GPS confirmed MPH on it because the last owner installed "wheely gears"
TL1000 would indicate 165, never confirmed with GPS
my RG500 will indicate 240KPH while GPS reads 135 mph
most other bikes I never really tested.... too old for this shit
on the VFR, about 220km/h (GPS recorded), bike very stable, rider chickened out :)
on the bimmer, 270km/h indicated down the straight at Phillip Island, bike rock steady, rider buffeted by air-sock (jacket too big !!).
[image: View Post]MaxSwell, on 23 January 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:
Dimtry, I delude my self into the philosophy, that you are only as old as you think. May we all be "never too old for this shit!"
Amen -- lol - We're doing the "standing mile" (or close) at Wilmington Ohio on an unused runway for several events a season now. In my someday column, I still have the itch to pin a 'busa in the right environment...... mbe at Wilmington..
[image: View Post]mello dude, on 23 January 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:
[image: View Post]MaxSwell, on 23 January 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:
Dimtry, I delude my self into the philosophy, that you are only as old as you think. May we all be "never too old for this shit!"
Amen -- lol - We're doing the "standing mile" (or close) at Wilmington Ohio on an unused runway for several events a season now. In my someday column, I still have the itch to pin a 'busa in the right environment...... mbe at Wilmington..
Well, let me clarify, I'm too old to be going to driver training class, again, after I get busted for going 100 over the limit.
In early 90's I had a VF700F, it had lot's of Yosh goodies and I really have no idea how fast it really was since there was no GPS back then, but it would bury a 155 (160?) mph speedo with ease. Once on a cool sunny day I was inspired to let 'er rip and I did for few-10 miles WFO, another few miles later while only going about 5 over the limit police cruiser finally caught up with me as I was taking my exit. He was pissed, claiming that he was doing 140 and I just pulled away, I had no idea he was behind since at that speed my mirrors would just fold. I apologized and that got me out of criminal charges like reckless endangerment, still had to spend a month in that stupid driver re-ed class to keep my license and paid a crap load of money for fines and insurance.
[image: View Post]Dmitry, on 23 January 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:
[image: View Post]mello dude, on 23 January 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:
[image: View Post]MaxSwell, on 23 January 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:
Dimtry, I delude my self into the philosophy, that you are only as old as you think. May we all be "never too old for this shit!"
Well, let me clarify, I'm too old to be going to driver training class, again, after I get busted for going 100 over the limit.
Yes, I understand now. I remember the sickening feeling in my stomach when the red and blue lights come on behind me and they don't want to pass me. I've been lucky. No major tick's on a bike. I think when the LEOs see an old man come out from under the helmet they are so suprised it is not some young hooligan, that they reset their Pissed Off meter and give me a break.
100 over!! That's a big number; in some places they'd take you machine away. Good luck to us all staying out of that kind of training.
I never go post 100 unless Im sure its safe to do so, but I ride in very remote areas, so usually not an issue, But Ive taken many of those classes over and over to dismiss tickets, where I normally get caught is 10 mph over tired and Putting through some rural town and not real alert for it.
Survielience Gear cut that way down , stupid to get tagged for the easy stuff>G
Well, I may be the oddball here. On the streets, nothing over 100. I can scare myself at 40 mph just as well as 100mph. Have never been to a track day yet, but that is on my to do list. I concentrate on my technique and ride my PACE. And I do see definite improvements over the past three years since I got back into riding.
On my new 2010 VFR1200F, somewhere on Route 3 in Plymouth, MA on the way home to the Cape.
Some bunghole in a truck with no mud flaps slinging pebbles out the back. Didn't learn what the left lane was used for. After following behind aways, I said screw this and whacked the throttle open. 130 mph later I slowed down as the area is kind of heavy with the Po Po. I was like Valantino Rossi here I come!
I've been riding for 3 years and my last bike was a Suzuki Gladius 650 V-twin. That bike I only got to 110. It was scary at that speed!
It was a cheap bike and rode like it. I liked the engine but nothing else.
I can't believe how smooth the VFR is at speed. The handling makes you want to go fast!! I think it must have something to do with it's color..
Yeah,a ticket at anything over 100 would not be good..
162 or 163 indicated with stock gearing on the 7 mile bridge during a trip in the keys a while back.
i tried to best that last winter. i got deep into the 170s (indicated with 15-43 gearing) on the same bridge with zero traffic.
i saw some cars coming up a few miles ahead so i rolled off the gas slowly. as i slowed down towards about 100 the front car ,still about a mile ahead, threw on its lights. undercover in a new hemi charger... that ticket hurt. but luckily he clocked me at "only102"... im retiring from the game for a little while now lol.
Back roads of Rural Australia yesterday I started to wind out my new VFR and got it up to 210kmh(130mph) but as i'm still breaking it in (this was done at 600km's on odo) i didn't take it any further.
Chasing two CBR1000's and an R6 which were setting the pace so this speed was pretty consistant. I've gone quicker on a ZX750R which was set up for racing but that was 265kmh(165mph)
Very impressed with the stability of the VFR at high speeds :) Best bike i've ever owned.
[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 26 March 2012 - 02:04 AM, said:
since the flat black paint added 247 HP, I have done GPS verified 972 MPH. Naked.
Timmy! The rules say you must wear ATGATT. No naked riding. But I suppose as a LEO you are used to making up the rules as you go along. ;-)
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After a few months of owning my '93, I was on a ride with my friend who was on a Hawk 650 (flaunting our swingarms). He passed me at maybe 110 or so coming up on a long, relatively safe downhill section of road. I deceided to open the VFR up and see where it got me. ~145 indicated was enough and I backed off. That's the fastest I've gone on anything ever, and I doubt I'll do it again on the street.
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I was never able to get Lucy to a point she stopped pulling! 140 at Roebling and ran out of road. It was fun though!! I always wanted to see what her top speed was but the mother in me never let me do it. I SO should have had motorcycles before I had my son. Or maybe not - cause I'd be dead! lol
Hey Monk, I'm jumping out of a plane April 7th! :) Can't wait!!!
[image: View Post]CandyRedRC46, on 25 March 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:
162 or 163 indicated with stock gearing on the 7 mile bridge during a trip in the keys a while back.
...as i slowed down towards about 100 the front car ,still about a mile ahead, threw on its lights. undercover in a new hemi charger... that ticket hurt.
I got a ticket on the same bridge heading North, similar story, saw the car a mile or so off turned out to be fitted with roof lights... he pulled a k turn on the middle of the bridge and I was waiting for him with my helmet off sitting on the shoulder once we were on land. No place to hide when it's one main road connecting a bunch of islands. He "understated" my actually speed since I was considerate of both our safety and didn't do anything stupid.
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