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Storm shadow accident

69 posts Started 15 Oct 2016 Last recovered post 5 Dec 2016 Wayback Machine snapshot 18 Jul 2017

#1

About 5am on sunday riding out of my little town. Doing 60 in 80 zone because i knew roos were on this road. Split second about 2 meters infront of me bolting out from the left. It was going to hit me. I think i went for the brakes and it hit the front left of my bike. Low sided it. Next thing i know im laying on the road in pain unable to move. Knowing its dark and on a country road i stood up. Walked to the bike in a ditch. Tried to pick it up and collapsed on the ground next to it i dont know how long it took but i heard a car i tried to put a hand up a guy stopped. Helped me up. Helped me plick the bike up. Another woman stopped and said she would drive me home. She woke my wife up. And i was bleeding from my hands. She took my jacket off and i felt my collar bone sticking up. So she called an ambulance for me. Was unable ro get up so they dosed me up with morphine. Drove to hospital broken collar bone in 3 places busted ribs. Lots if pain bruises. Cant move much cant breath much. Day 2 in hospital surgon says my bones lined up so probably wont need screws and plates.

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#2

Dainessi d dry gloves at 60 kph. Ground a 1cm deep hole in the top of my hand. Gloves stayed on . Busted my colar bone and ribs too. Thought u might like too see your product crash tested

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#4

Jeez, glad yr ok, albeit banged-up.

Get well soon.

#5

Heal up well!

#6

Ever present danger...have to say it's why I sold my first VF so long ago, a friend wiped out, just ankle stuff, but I've missed so many years of riding. We almost feel it too its so fresh.
Speedy recovery.

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#7

Sorry to hear of your accident,suprised they didn't call an ambulance to the scene right away, glad you aren't hurt too bad and  I wish you a speedy recovery, must be sickening too to look at the bike but that can be repaired,those gloves don't have knuckle protectors, all depends how you land though no matter what gear you are wearing,keep us posted on your recovery,all the best.

#8

Condolences for your mishap. What a huge drag. It looks like your gear served you reasonably well. The gloves saved you some (but not all) skin before giving up, and the full-face helmet definitely did its job. Good on you for having both. Thank you for sharing your story. A speedy recovery to you.

#9

Best wishes for a quick recovery.

#10

Although you didn't come out totally unscathed, it looks like your helmet sure took a good brunt of your crash and probably saved you from much worse. Too bad the gloves didn't do better. Regardless, this is why I ride ATGATT. You never know what's around the corner or going to cross your path. Even if the gear just curbs the inevitable, it's still worth wearing IMO.

Hope you heal up quickly and are able to get back on the horse soon.

#11

That is rotten luck. 

Damned annoying that wet weather gloves don't offer decent protection. I'd be tempted to write Dainese and complain.

Colloarbone injuries can dog you for ages. Hopefully, you will be in the pink in no time.

#12

Damn, those gloves. Leather every time eh.

Bike doesn't look terminal, she leaking any vital fluids?

#13

Sorry to hear about your crash. Animals in the roadway are a huge danger. Sometimes there is nothing you can do avoid them. Hope you heal fast and congrats for ATGATT. You will ride again I hope.

Regarding gloves, I used to wear non-armored gloves. After surviving a freeway deer crash and seeing my gloves scraped but without damage I switched to Knox Recon armored gloves. I have not tested them yet but the do give one a sense of security. Here is a link detailing all the great features: (I found this glove for sale at $99.)

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#14
2 hours ago, MaxSwell

Sorry to hear about your crash. Animals in the roadway are a huge danger. Sometimes there is nothing you can do avoid them. Hope you heal fast and congrats for ATGATT. You will ride again I hope.

Regarding gloves, I used to wear non-armored gloves. After surviving a freeway deer crash and seeing my gloves scraped but without damage I switched to Knox Recon armored gloves. I have not tested them yet but the do give one a sense of security. Here is a link detailing all the great features: (I found this glove for sale at $99.)

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I'm a little disappointed in Knox lately. Some of their latest glove offerings have been lack luster AND they have not continued making or have a replacement for the Recon or the glove I have and LOVE, the Biomech!

Cortech does have a few that incorporate Knox SPS and are pretty decent gloves in their own right.

Sorry for the short hi-jack...

#15

SS2, sorry to hear of your crash.  That totally sucks.  Not only the injuries, but going to the garage to see your pride and joy scraped up.  It sounds like you're on the mend though, which is good.  The bike also looks to be repairable which I hope you do. 

Maybe one bit of consolation is that Kanagroo skin is a very good material for motorcycle leathers and gloves, so maybe get some satisfaction from 'em with some new gear, literally from a piece of their hide!

Please post updates on your progress.  Best for a quick and full recovery! 
 

#16

Fuck man damn roos are killers, glad you're ok thought man, and the bike looks in pretty good shape so once you are all healed up you can worry about the bike.

#17

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Gloves are rrp 180. I chose these as i wanted thin warm and water proof. I know it didnt have knuckle guard but seemed thick bumpy material over 90% of the glove. The palms are extra thick with a leather patch. Lables if high teck kevlar and materials to keep you safe. I went well its daenesi it must be good. Good price on clearance. Normally i wear big leather gloves but since i commute at 4 5am 55km each way i got these. Yes i have heated grips so thick winter gloves dont let much heat in.

If ya notice the gloves wore through and really all damage was above the thumb in a stretch pannel. Looking at it. Its a thin layer of spandex. Thin water proof plastic. Wooly fluff stuff. Cotton linar. Then my skin.

So i did complain to dainesi. If the gloves didnt fail id only have my brokrm bones. Heres there reply.

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#18

As for the bike. Could of riden it away thanks to the genuine oggy knobs and the pannier.

Insurance job a friend is going to repair it for me if insurance gives the nodd.

Looks like new mud guard. Nose cone. Rhs fairing. Duck tail. Mirror. Bar end slider. Givi V35 pannier. And a new oggy.

Oggy bracket and too givi brackets did not bend or move. Massive saver that.


Inside pannier matching winter cordura pants. Was running late and didnt put them on as usual. Wouldnt have this big scrape on my knee if i did.


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#19

Regarding gloves, I have a hard time with most winter glove offerings, particularly textile ones, as most of them do not have the same protection level as good leather race/gauntlet gloves, which is what I prefer to ride with. However, here is where I did find Knox to have a good compromise, good crash protection and decent weather protection. The only thing lacking in the ones I have (Zero Outdry) is warmth. But this is only when temps drop below 35*F, otherwise they are suitable for most So Cal low temps I experience.

Having done a few rides in the low 30's mid 20 temperatures, I did realize that I wanted/needed more warmth. At first I tried silk liners, which did help, just not for prolong periods of time. All of the heated gloves seem to go away from protection in favor of comfort as well. The best solution I could come up with is heated glove liners with a decent 3 season water proof glove. Here I went with a Rev'it Summit H2O in a size large enough to fit over the liners but not so large it was so loose as to be useless. The 3 season gloves have most everything for wet weather and crash protection, but lack the thick liner or insulation filling, which makes them a little more easier to use with heated liners.

Unfortunately I think you, like most of us have too, fell victim to marketing/hype, where we believe that something that is made by a quality gear maker is not going to make something that doesn't offer the protection level we expect of a given product. This, typically comes as a hard lesson learned after the fact. I hope this didn't come off sounding harsh or unsympathetic but I think it's something happens more often than not to many of us.

Personally I never stop looking for the ultimate riding gear and sometimes find myself with several pairs of gloves, pants even jackets and under garments. I often sell or give away some of the gear (Depending on the person/gear, usually it's to someone I owe money or favors to) but usually my choices are good enough to be keepers of a while. Then again I have not put them to the ultimate test and hope I never have to!

Cheers!

#20

On the quest for new bike pants (having lost 12 kilos mainly around my waist), the odd mc shop assistent tells me that textile is the future and leather is old skool.

well, fark that!!!.... my leathers did pretty well in my crash and leather it will be.

Keep doing whatever exercise you can to keep your limbs in good condition!

And indeed, a good knob is worth its girth in gold! :goofy:

#21

Yeah the glove saga continues. My last ones were spyke had everything til the fingers split open after many years. But thinking about them thry had leather but cordura stretch panels. Would this be the same problem.

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#22

Sorry for the crash, looks a though you hit hard enough with the helmet your collarbone took the impact. Heal well


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#23

I wear similar gloves in the winter BUT not anymore. Glad your gonna be ok.

#24

Yeah, all the best for your recovery, as I've already said on facebook. On the gloves front, I had a minor shunt with a van in 2008 on my way to work. When I looked at my gloves the next day I noticed a half-inch chunk missing from the armour over the little-finger knuckle of my left hand, and I hadn't even noticed an impact there with everything else that was happening. Needless to say, all my gloves have hard knuckle armour.

#25

I visited the site today. White mark on the road from the oggy. Tall black fence before hand that has a divot for a driveway that goes in for 10m. Imagine roo heard me went in got stuck then ran out. Fence would cause No visibility from the road. Bike didnt slide far. One side of the drive way to the other. Just a few meters.

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#26

Good news that you are up and about.

Soz to hear about ya accident.

Know how ya feel,(not quite I only got a busted ankle)  those roos a soo fn dumb, bloody things caused write off of my 1st viffer after riding over the top of one on a corner.

All the best on recovery StormShadow

#27

Well 2 weeks down now. Insurance has paid out my gear and tow but still waiting on the bike. Its been assessed but should be repairable just gota get the final word from insurance regarding the cost. Its insured for 12.5 with 3k accessories so should be financially viable.

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#28

Ribs still hurt. Somebody said they hurt more before they get better. Left arm still immobilized. Which i hate. Just wana stretch

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#29

Sitting on the couch awating the race (06:10 here), 2 weeks to to with the splint on my -dominantn left wrist .

Yeah, crashing (and the aftermath) sucks, but we walked away... :-)

Keep yer chin up!

#30

What did you do?

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#33

Looks like it can use a little help yes....

#34

Well time for surgery i think according to my gp. Surgon visit on friday

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#35

Well bookeed in tuesday fot surgury

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#36

I will hoist a glass to a speedy post-op recovery on Tuesday night then! :beer:

#37

thanks mate, hope your healing up too

#38

Slow but steady, just the way I like it.

Starting your "get well" drinking session early....

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:-)

I finished the prescription of Diclofenac a while back. Wanted to stop earlier as I didnot need them "painwise" but was told to continue for their anti-inflamatory use.

Stayed well clear of the Oxicontin/codin, hope you too have no need for them.

#39

Well 6 screws and a long plate later. Gota sit on my arse for 3 months now. Told to do nothing as i had no bone groth. More xrays in 2 weeks otherwise they take bone from my pelvis and use it for a bone graft.

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#40

They just told you to immobilise it initially?  Blimey, sounds like my first (NHS) consultant, who decided a cast was all my ankle needed...  Good luck.

Ciao,

#41
5 hours ago, StormShadow

Well 6 screws and a long plate later. Gota sit on my arse for 3 months now. Told to do nothing as i had no bone groth. More xrays in 2 weeks otherwise they take bone from my pelvis and use it for a bone graft.

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stay away from ibuprofen. it stops the bones from knitting together.
 

#44

My neck hurts and i cant turn it to the left. But atleast my ribs dont feel too bad. Its been 4 weeks.

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#45

Is panadole osteo ibprofan?

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#46

don't think so  - i think its just slow release paracetamol. It'll say on the packet.

Ibuprofen is the active ingredient in nurofen.

#47

I took paracetemol 1000mg and diclofenac (spelling may be different), stayed well clear of the Oxcycodin.

Today the brace on my lower arm/wrist will be changed/re-modeled.

Gpoing to look at an SP....  :-)

#48
16 hours ago, Auspanglish

I'm a nurse.

That's a bit of a buzz-kill!  :unsure:

Ciao,

#49
Dutchy... stayed well clear of the Oxcycodin.


Reasoning?
#50
keef don't think so  - i think its just slow release paracetamol. It'll say on the packet.

Ibuprofen is the active ingredient in nurofen.

Xakery

Panadol = Paracetamol

Brufen/Neobrufen/Nurofen = Ibuprofen

Voltaren = Diclofenac

Toradol = Ketorolac

Glenfiddich = Shellackin'

Basically all different forms of one group of drugs:

NSAIDs -- or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs... and basically provide pain relief, hinder inflammatory processes, curb fever... and can be harmful to the stomach lining, liver, kidneys... Usually taken with gastric protectors like Omeprazol or Ranitidine... which in turn can produce headaches, disturbances of the gut such as diarrhoea, constipation, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain or flatulence...

#51
6 hours ago, Auspanglish


Reasoning?

It is a very powerful drug (as you will know), here "normally" prescribed to cancer patients in the final phase to suppress pain....

Supposed to be highly addictive to boot, so yes I would have taken it if I really HAD to... but could manage well with the others.

OK, so you are a nirse, but do you also have the other qualifications as displayed in the image??  :goofy:

#52

Hard to get addicted to something if you only use it sporadically for breakthrough pain and don't have an addictive personality. For sensible people the worst part about regular use of opiates is the severe constipation...  so often prescribed with some form of laxative.

Drugs aside and getting back on topic, I do have the odd red hair on my... 

#53

I am relieved to read that there are no side effects to Glenfiddich. Pfeeewww!!!! From now on my drug of choice.


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#54

Well... there is the being chased by angry fathers (or farmers if in NZ) with shotguns...and maybe a touch of the cirrhosis

#55
Auspanglish, ‎04‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 2:25 PM

Xakery

Panadol = Paracetamol

Brufen/Neobrufen/Nurofen = Ibuprofen

Voltaren = Diclofenac

Toradol = Ketorolac

Glenfiddich = Shellackin'

Basically all different forms of one group of drugs:

NSAIDs -- or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs... and basically provide pain relief, hinder inflammatory processes, curb fever... and can be harmful to the stomach lining, liver, kidneys... Usually taken with gastric protectors like Omeprazol or Ranitidine... which in turn can produce headaches, disturbances of the gut such as diarrhoea, constipation, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain or flatulence...

Ouch sounds like it's painful. I spent 6 months sat on the sofa when I broke My femur/hip/elbow and for the first few weeks I was taking Ibuprofen (generic Brand) and Paracetamol alternately, as you can't take them more than every four hours and I wasn't prescribed anything stronger. I was told to do this by an A&E Nurse, seemed to work and meant I could sleep

#56

The bones knitting back together is an inflammatory reaction, which can be blocked by ibuprofen. 

My radius didn't start knitting together, even 5 weeks after surgery. I stopped taking ibuprofen (I was taking it as an anti inflammatory). 3 weeks later, good to go. 

I ususally heal fast, but ibuprofen stopped that. 

As in, when I had a full body scan to check if anything else had been broken, they asked me when I had broken my rib and vertebrae. I have no recollection of ever breaking them. 

Ibuprofen is bad for healing bones. 

#57

At Oxford University Hospital in the UK we very rarely prescribe Ibuprofen for anything.

#58

all ive got is panadole osteo, i still have some oxycontain they gave me initially. only used it the other day when i broke a tooth in half and spent an hour in the chair with a guy going over me with pliars and scaples, i now have a hole from my mouth to my nose he stitched up, told me it was gona hurt after t he needle wore off so took one of them.

i just dont like taking drugs of addiction.

well my ribs are ok unless i cough or sneeze, bit sometimes just ache as its in my back.

swelling has subsided and i can sorta move my neck now. still got the arm immobilized.

for some unknown reason my blood pressure is skyhigh, 180 or something since surgery, they think its a reaction to the anti inflammatory naprosan they gave me originally, so i stopped taking that but its still high. had no problems with blood pressure before this, my gp had it all recorded a few months before hand.

#59
Auspanglish, ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 10:46 AM

At Oxford University Hospital in the UK we very rarely prescribe Ibuprofen for anything.

keef, ‎09‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 6:52 PM

The bones knitting back together is an inflammatory reaction, which can be blocked by ibuprofen. 

My radius didn't start knitting together, even 5 weeks after surgery. I stopped taking ibuprofen (I was taking it as an anti inflammatory). 3 weeks later, good to go. 

I ususally heal fast, but ibuprofen stopped that. 

As in, when I had a full body scan to check if anything else had been broken, they asked me when I had broken my rib and vertebrae. I have no recollection of ever breaking them. 

Ibuprofen is bad for healing bones. 

Really? I didn't know that. I must admit my accident was over 25 years ago so things may have changed. Perhaps that was why I spent so long healing. I was told the operation would have me on my feet in 6 weeks... it took 6 months.

#60

Let's not start on the NHS.  It makes my ankle hurt just thinking about it...

Ciao,

#61

I find the occasional comfort in 21 or 25 year olds....   :-)

BenRiach, Imperial or Talisker.....

:-)

#62
7 hours ago, Woodie

Really? I didn't know that. I must admit my accident was over 25 years ago so things may have changed. Perhaps that was why I spent so long healing. I was told the operation would have me on my feet in 6 weeks... it took 6 months.

I was wondering why it wasn't knitting together after surgery, so I googled. Found that fact, spoke to a pharmacist about it, who confirmed it.. when my bro broke his foot, I told him, and his surgeon said stay away from ibuprofen as well. 

#63

i have basically a brand new bike again, new oem fairings, panniers etc now.

if only i was this easy to repair

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#64

the givi panniers have new keys, it even came with a 3rd lock barrel, guess i can put that into my top box

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#65

did find this when we moved the bike for the first time, up under the guard.  gona put an invoice for a new rim to insurance now

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#66

And tyre

Go over with a fine tooth comb

You paid the insurance excess make sure it's ALL as it was b4 accident 

#67

Bike looks lovely.  Hope you're on the mend.

#68

The bike looks great.  I hope you're healing completes soon and you're back out enjoying riding again. 

#69

its hard to know whats happening inside of me, it feels ok pain wise, back still hurts though where i broke my ribs

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