On 6/4/06 Ilost one of my best and closest friends in a motorcycle accident. apparentley he hit a truck as it was making a turn and and was dead on arrival. This was one of the most skilled riders i have ever ridden with and we have prob logged thousands of miles together. We had a memoral for him on wed. where about 200 of our biker community showed up to show there last respect. He will be greatly missed. May he rest in peace.everyone please ride safe
So sorry for your loss. Keep strong and you and his family are in my prayers.
chris2992, Jun 8 2006, 09:05 AMSo sorry for your loss. Keep strong and you and his family are in my prayers.
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I am sorry about your friend, I hope you feel better soon.
Ride like the cagers are all out to kill you, everyone. 'Tis the season. for bad news like this.
Truly sorry for your loss, bro. sad.gif
Wish I had words for to make you feel better. I am sorry.
Sorry for your lost.
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Lobster, Jun 8 2006, 11:11 AMWish I had words for to make you feel better. I am sorry.
My prayers to your friend, his family and you.
My thoughts to you and those close to him.
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You and your friends family will be in my prayers during this difficult time.
I spoke to Pat (axman) yesterday about this incident. This rider, named CD, is a former racer and about as good as they come. Pat (who is the fastest, most fearless rider I've ever tried to keep up with...he's the guy who ground his boot off while street riding after I made a few suspension adjustments with him last winter) told me that he and CD would go for rides just by themselves or sometimes a third highly skilled rider, and avoid the group rides that would simply slow them down. He said CD would just pull away from them all.
At Sportbike Night last night here at a famous wing shack here at the Beach, I talked to a bunch of riders who said CD would go around them on the outside like they were standing still. A few of the really good riders (Jessica and her dude) said that once they got to know this "mystery rider" he actually began to train them on some cloverleafs and high-speed sweepers here, improving their game immensely. He was extremely fast, and from what I gather, his skill was only matched by his lack of fear and his full-throttle riding style.
I met the guy once, briefly. He was kinda nutty, but very gregarious and happy. Everyone seemed to really like him and looked up to him as "the best".
The circumstances of the crash are a little unclear...only the driver of the SUV was a witness. It's unknown if CD was killed by his own mistake or that of the driver, if he was going 50 or 150. Or 30. It's also unknown who violated the other's right-of-way. But the results are the same.....Pat lost a good friend. And Pat is my friend and I feel real sad for him.
It is a sad day when a friend is lost.
We choose to ride and we love to ride. The fact is our chosen activity has many unpredictable factors that we cannot even begin to control and it can take our life. We can only give an extra hug to our loved ones before we leave to ride. The other option is not acceptable to me, not to ride. I have told my wife and family that if I'm killed on a motorcycle please remember that I was doing something that I loved.
CD sounds like he was a hell of a guy and will be sorely missed by friends and family and fellow riders. My condolences.
Sorry for your loss. Wish there was something I could do or say to make it better.
I am sorry to hear of this loss of one of our brothers - a rider to all of us and a friend to some.
After reading the response from Trace, I am wondering about how one should ride on the street. One can guess as to the cause and we may never know the exact reason, or what could have been done to avoid the accident. We all choose how we ride, what we do in what situation. I truly wish these types of things would never happen, but they do. All I can say is ride safe - as safe as you feel confortable. I'll get off my soapbox now.
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Rivcyko, Jun 9 2006, 11:41 AM................................................................ sad.gif
Sorry to hear of your riding buddy. It's a constant battle through life trying to figure out why things happen the way they do. All we can do as cyclists is ride as safely as possible while on public roads, they are not the racetrack as we would like them to be.
Hope you have a quick recovery.
Pat, I'm sorry for your loss. Let our fellow brother RIP.
Man, you hate hearing about these kinds of things. Sorry for your loss and everyone elses that knew him sad.gif
Let us hope that we all learn something from this, so CD's loss is not in in vain. Keep him with you always in your heart.
aksy2k, Jun 9 2006, 04:00 PMLet us hope that we all learn something from this, so CD's loss is not in in vain.� Keep him with you always in your heart.
I agree with the thought and the concept, but unfortunately, there's really nothing to learn from this, IMO. Maybe CD did everything right and almost pulled off a miracle of skill and survival. Or not. Motorcycles are dangerous. The smallest error can end your life. We could have easily lost one of our key members (and superior rider) here last weekend when he had his surprising off. Yet we'll all get on our VFRs and our Gixxers and our Harleys....and our ultralight planes, our horses, our cars...and a few of us will get hurt or killed. But most will not, which is what allows us justify doing these things
next weekend.
Everything is dangerous. Stay home. Or not!!
We makes our choices, and we takes our chances. I wouldn't want it any other way. Neither would Pat, neither would CD. Neither would any of you. fing02.gif
damn.... sorry dude....
First and foremost, I'm sorry about your loss. sad.gif My dad went down years ago and it scared the hell out of me. I went down early this year and when I got home my wife and kids were crying which almost made me quit. Fortunately, I've never been in your shoes and can only imagine what it must feel like.
aksy2k, Jun 9 2006, 05:00 PMKeep him with you always in your heart.
Especially when you're contemplating taking that blind corner at 70+ mph. . .
Trace, Jun 9 2006, 05:45 PMI agree with the thought and the concept, but unfortunately, there's really nothing to learn from this, IMO. Maybe CD did everything right and almost pulled off a miracle of skill and survival. Or not. Motorcycles are dangerous. The smallest error can end your life. We could have easily lost one of our key members (and superior rider) here last weekend when he had his surprising off BLS?. Yet we'll all get on our VFRs and our Gixxers and our Harleys....and our ultralight planes, our horses, our cars...and a few of us will get hurt or killed. But most will not, which is what allows us justify doing these things next weekend.
Everything is dangerous. Stay home. Or not!!
We makes our choices, and we takes our chances. I wouldn't want it any other way. Neither would Pat, neither would CD. Neither would any of you. fing02.gif
True, brother, true. We know when we thumb the starter there's a chance we won't be home that night. If that DOESN'T cross your mind, turn the key to the OFF position. We take our chances and yet we have our fun. Hell, for some the "chance" is part of the "fun." All we can do is limit the gruesomeness of the outcome, i.e. wear gear, allow for corrections in a corner, expect that cage to cut you off, assume NOBODY sees you, etc.
Like life, it boils down to the pros and cons. The pros? Railing through a corner, scraping pegs
PERFECTLY. The cons? Tucking the front end and meeting a guard rail. It's all about moderation, moderate the fun based on an unforeseen danger.
It sounds like you may be second guessing the whole riding concept. Stick with it. Like I said earlier, I went down and my first ride puckered my ass for 20 miles, dodging tar snakes, half afraid to change lanes on the expressway. It goes away and you quickly remember why you ride; the wind, the smell of things around you, the sound of the bike, the acceleration, the braking. The list goes on and on.
Here's to you CD. Here's to twisties and free gas in heaven beer.gif Anyway, to quote Trace, see you all "next weekend." Ride safe, not stupid.
Trace, Jun 9 2006, 09:45 PMI agree with the thought and the concept, but unfortunately, there's really nothing to learn from this.
I'm sorry for your loss, but that's 100% the wrong attitude. If nothing is gained by him dying, doesn't that trivialize his premature death?
Take something away from it beyond "shit happens". Why did it happen? What may have changed the outcome?
I lived in Florida and while they're pretty much the ONLY turns, on-ramps and cloverleafs are *NOT* the place to drag pegs or "pass on the outside". Public streets are exactly that - PUBLIC. That means crap on the asphalt, idiot cagers, uncertain conditions. He may have been fast and skilled, but testing those limits on the street? unsure.gif
We already expose ourselves to risk, doing so without judgement or reflection on accidents is the sure way to lose MORE fellow riders.
/soapbox off
RIP.
Well said Trace. We all would be speculating about the what if's of the incident. He is gone and nothing will change that, RIP brother. I almost lost my brother to a motorcycle crash and he spent a few months recovering, I swore I would ride a bike. That was until I realized what I was missing.
On the same token, I like to review the facts about motorcycle collisions, it helps me to understand the statistics (ie. lethal lefties) and make needed adjustments. We can always learn from our others mistakes and our own.
thanks everyone. I would never give up riding, that is one of my true loves, Thanks Trace for such kind words. It is hard to lose a true friend.but when you lose a fellow biker it is more like family. he is dearly missed by me and many others but the memories will last fore ever, the one thing to learn from this is that no mater how skilled you are that any thing can happen. so always be aware of whats happening around you and ride safe.THANKS
I agree with pretty much everything that was said: Condolences; this really stinks; we're all one idiot cager away from instant death; we love this too much to let that get in the way; we need to learn something from this if possible.
I've been riding nearly 3 months and 2000 miles so far. Things like this scare the hell out of me, but I wouldn't give up riding unless I absolutely had to. I waited a long time to get my 1st adult bike and not much could keep me off of it now.
RIP, CD, and enjoy all those twisties and superbikes in heaven!
Sorry to hear. Best wishes to all. Hang in there and keep riding. sad.gif
theoxmole, Jun 9 2006, 11:01 PM We know when we thumb the starter there's a chance we won't be home that night. If that DOESN'T cross your mind, turn the key to the OFF position. We take our chances and yet we have our fun. Hell, for some the "chance" is part of the "fun." All we can do is limit the gruesomeness of the outcome, i.e. wear gear, allow for corrections in a corner, expect that cage to cut you off, assume NOBODY sees you, etc.
Like life, it boils down to the pros and cons. The pros? Railing through a corner, scraping pegs PERFECTLY. The cons? Tucking the front end and meeting a guard rail. It's all about moderation, moderate the fun based on an unforeseen danger.
It sounds like you may be second guessing the whole riding concept. Stick with it. Like I said earlier, I went down and my first ride puckered my ass for 20 miles, dodging tar snakes, half afraid to change lanes on the expressway. It goes away and you quickly remember why you ride; the wind, the smell of things around you, the sound of the bike, the acceleration, the braking. The list goes on and on.
Here's to you CD. Here's to twisties and free gas in heaven beer.gif Anyway, to quote Trace, see you all "next weekend." Ride safe, not stupid.
Sorry for your loss Axman, I think Oxmole sums it up well. Ride safe everyone.
Always sorry to hear of a fellow rider going down, especially for good. sad.gif
Not saying anything about CD, who I never knew. I just heard,
There are old pilots,
amd there are bold pilots.
But there are no old bold pilots.
Ride Safe out there! warranty.gif
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