Fixers "how To" Part 2..adding Stuff To Your Tires

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Continuing on with my "how to" topics, today we go one step further and actually add stuff to the inside of the tire. this can be numerous exotic gasses (i do not recommend gasoline, acetlyne, propane as others may have suggested). i suggest AIR, but some may want to waste their money on nitrogen because they have so much cash they just THROW their money everywhere.

First.... you must have a thorough understanding of the valve cap install / removal theory covered in my first "how to"

first "how to" <<< click here. if your new you "click" the mouse on this to open a new window

i'll take a moment so that first topic can sink in.....






first...general theory of inflation. here is a chart of what your tires may look like under different tire inflation pressures (think of pressure as trying to perform with the old lady, but you had to much to drink (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/blink.gif) )

different pressures
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as you can see, too little stuff inside your tires makes them look funny. funny is not good when it comes to tires. so lets go ahead and make sure you have enough stuff in them.

okay....now you need to open your operators manual or service manual and turn to the page showing recommended tire Pressure. remember this number (both front and rear numbers) for those who cant open their manual i will cover that in a "how to" at a later date

now you need to find a suitable source of stuff for your tires (i recommend air again....) here are some suitable options

a compressor
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a portable compressor
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a battery car compressor
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do not use these compressors
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or you can use a hose at your local service station (use your yellow pages to locate)

hose
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next you will need a "tool" ( i have shy'd away from tools till now) to measure the stuff thats in your tires. there are many style of tools to use, but i dont want to lose my audience so ill just show one style

tool
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you need to use the tool carefully because too much stuff in your tires can lead to this

BOOM
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ok, now the pressure builds ( literally) as now we put all the stuff we have learned so far to work!

using the lesson learned in the valve stem cap removal "how to", carefully remove your valve cap. take your time and do it right the first time. remember, no one is grading you.

now take the "pressure" checking tool and see how much stuff is in your tire


checking amount of stuff:
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here a rider demonstrates!
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now compare the NUMBERS on your tool to the NUMBERS that you researched earlier (researched = learned). if too much stuff is in the tire you will need to remove it ( ill have to add that "how to" later). assuming your stuff is to little you need to add some! using the stuff source you had either aquired (got) or the service station air hose....lets add some!

take fitting on end of hose....place it on the valve stem and press down. if stuff goes lower instead of higher be sure your source of stuff is on (look for manufactures "how to's" if needed.

adding stuff
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totally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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take your time and add stuff until your NUMBERS match the NUMBERS you are trying to match. it is suggested you do this to a cold tire to match what the NUMBERS the manual stated.

thats it!

now using the valve stem cap "how to", reinstall your valve cap and your done. you can either rest now or take an attempt at the other tire!

here is a graph!!!
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hopefully that graph clarifys to all the time span needed between using Dyno air Vs. Synthetic air. and also the effect of using aftermarket valve stem caps

what i dont understand is, why do i have to have tools? ive got several boxes of air left over from christmas, is there no way to put that air in my tyres or is it just going to go to waste?

bluedragon, Feb 20 2007, 04:26 AMwhat i dont understand is, why do i have to have tools? ive got several boxes of air left over from christmas, is there no way to put that air in my tyres or is it just going to go to waste?

tools are required to measure the amount of christmas air you have. without an understanding of the volume you have you can not be sure how much you can add. perhaps this formula can help
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767fixer, Feb 20 2007, 04:40 AM

bluedragon, Feb 20 2007, 04:26 AMwhat i dont understand is, why do i have to have tools? ive got several boxes of air left over from christmas, is there no way to put that air in my tyres or is it just going to go to waste?

tools are required to measure the amount of christmas air you have. without an understanding of the volume you have you can not be sure how much you can add. perhaps this formula can help
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OOOOhhh well why didnt you put that in there to begin with (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/idea3.gif) i think i pretty well got it now, thanks!

moved to feature - this is darned interesting stuff, I use forth of July air myself its lighter than Christmas air and with less guilt!

"Christmas Air" not the only "Air" on this thread........is the equation changed when the air is heated, as in "Hot Air"......... (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif) .....this is asked solely as a later reference tool, as I'm known to have vast supplies of the "heated stuff" myself sometimes............................. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)

totally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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Any write-up how to inflate the hot machine? Do I need any special tools? Heat shield? Are other machines same approach? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/biggrin.gif)

HispanicSlammer, Feb 20 2007, 04:48 AMmoved to feature - this is darned interesting stuff, I use forth of July air myself its lighter than Christmas air and with less guilt!

I was using 4th of july air, but with all the fireworks accidents i wanted to change to a happier more giving air.

HispanicSlammer, Feb 20 2007, 04:48 AMmoved to feature - this is darned interesting stuff, I use forth of July air myself its lighter than Christmas air and with less guilt!

what can i say Miguel. i try to teach them....but like i said.... "Baby Steps". I'm Just happy helping them get air into their tires, i can't be responsible for the type they use...


Perhaps i better add a disclaimer? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/unsure.gif)

very good air thread...
coming from a real good AIR HEAD, the best source of info! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)
awsome!!
i try to run helium ,but it makes my tires sound funny..or so i have been told.
i was thinking of having my valve caps made from UNOBTAINIUM..
will this combo make an ultra lite spot on my hoops ?
will it make it easier to wheelie or endo???

thanks master airhead! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif)

oh, its freezing here in dc, can you sent the hottie to warm up my bike for starting???

gll429, Feb 20 2007, 05:45 AMvery good air thread...
coming from a real good AIR HEAD, the best source of info! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)
awsome!!
i try to run helium ,but it makes my tires sound funny..or so i have been told.
i was thinking of having my valve caps made from UNOBTAINIUM..
will this combo make an ultra lite spot on my hoops ?
will it make it easier to wheelie or endo???

thanks master airhead! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif)

oh, its freezing here in dc, can you sent the hottie to warm up my bike for starting???

sorry....valve cap questions will have to be answered in a later thread.... (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/rolleyes.gif)

Robert VFR, Feb 20 2007, 04:50 AMtotally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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Any write-up how to inflate the hot machine? Do I need any special tools? Heat shield? Are other machines same approach? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/biggrin.gif)

I believe that "How-To" should come from our resident Valentino, Professor Trace... for that matter, he proally already "has knowledge" of this hot machine, so you're better off finding some other hot machine... (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/wink.gif)

Again you make it look so easy (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif)

Before adding air, should I take out the old air? And if I should, is old air considered toxic and should I wear protective clothing when handling used pressurised air?
What is the service interval of regular air, and is it inferior to the Honda air the bike originally came with. (If you don't want to get into another air thread I fully understand)

Ok i'm going to have to revisit this thread at a later date, ive only made it 1/2 way through the cap thread. This does look interesting, with lots of cool pics and graphs.
Fixer your how to's make these things look sooooooo easy (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif) I would never tackle the shoulder i mean these mods without you by my side so to speak (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)
I bought a fancy new laptop lastnight so i can have the pics right beside me while doing these neccesary maintenance items to my bike.
Keep up the great work!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/lurk.gif)

I've always heard that when storing your bike for long periods of time, the air tends to settle at the bottom of the tire...this in turn can lead to false pressure readings.

My question is...is it best to ride your bike a few miles, you know, to get the air re-distributed in the tire, before you take any pressure readings? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/idea3.gif)

again great follow up questions....let me try to answer without going over every ones head

Before adding air, should I take out the old air? And if I should, is old air considered toxic and should I wear protective clothing when handling used pressurised air?
What is the service interval of regular air, and is it inferior to the Honda air the bike originally came with. (If you don't want to get into another air thread I fully understand)

although it is not necessary to remove old air when servicing, some choose to do so. any air that is taken out should be stored in a small trash bag and taken to your nearest recycling center. have to protect the enviroment! next ....its customary to light a cigarette at this time....is to decide if honda air is really needed. i found most aftermarket air has the same or near the same quality.

I've always heard that when you store your bike for long periods of time, the air tends to settle in the bottom of the tire...this in turn can lead to faulse pressure readings.

My question is...is it best to ride your bike a few miles, you know, to get the air re-distributed in the tire, before you take any pressure readings?

air can settle to the bottom if using synthetic air and a few rotations of the tire may equalize the pressure. some member drop their bikes in a garage or parking lot to aid this distribution. personally i tend to hate to replace expensive plastic so i just use common household air in my tires.

Sondance, Feb 20 2007, 07:42 AM

Robert VFR, Feb 20 2007, 04:50 AMtotally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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Any write-up how to inflate the hot machine? Do I need any special tools? Heat shield? Are other machines same approach? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/biggrin.gif)

I believe that "How-To" should come from our resident Valentino, Professor Trace... for that matter, he proally already "has knowledge" of this hot machine, so you're better off finding some other hot machine... (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/wink.gif)

Trace....please do not fondle my tire assistant. she is all i have. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/unsure.gif)




damn she is fine (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/blink.gif)

767fixer, Feb 20 2007, 08:48 AMtotally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/wub.gif) Hubba hubba!



Uhhhh, what was this thread about again? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/blink.gif)

Robert VFR, Feb 20 2007, 04:50 AMtotally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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Any write-up how to inflate the hot machine? Do I need any special tools? Heat shield? Are other machines same approach? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/biggrin.gif)

I thought she was the device to blow on your valve and make your tires hard. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/blink.gif)

Before changing my air, I ride around the block to warm the old air...I found that it drains out faster.

I have noticed though that my old air has a funny smell to it when it drains out. Could I possibly be burning my air by the way I ride? How many miles out of a set of air does everyone else get? I think I may be waiting too long between air change intervals. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/unsure.gif)

I'm just happy to see so many pictures of a Falco in this thread, broad or no. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif)

Don't forget that your tires can also be used to store pressurized snack products. Cool Whip (bikini-clad pillion topping) and Quick Cheese are two of my favorites. Yummers.

fallzboater, Feb 21 2007, 07:23 AMI'm just happy to see so many pictures of a Falco in this thread, broad or no. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif)

There were bike pictures in this thread?!? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/unsure.gif)

I'll have to go back and have another look.

*scrolls back through thread*

Nup, I still can't see them. Could you please tell me which posts they were in? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/blink.gif)

767fixer, Feb 20 2007, 02:40 AM

bluedragon, Feb 20 2007, 04:26 AMwhat i dont understand is, why do i have to have tools? ive got several boxes of air left over from christmas, is there no way to put that air in my tyres or is it just going to go to waste?

tools are required to measure the amount of christmas air you have. without an understanding of the volume you have you can not be sure how much you can add. perhaps this formula can help
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You forgot to take into account volumetric egg nog consumption to rider weight ratio. This could seriously impact environmental performance during warm weather riding. Thus the reason 4th of July air is better. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/comp13.gif)

I am just waiting for BailyRock to chime in and say "45k miles and no air check performed yet!" (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)

vanion2, Feb 20 2007, 03:18 PM

767fixer, Feb 20 2007, 02:40 AM

bluedragon, Feb 20 2007, 04:26 AMwhat i dont understand is, why do i have to have tools? ive got several boxes of air left over from christmas, is there no way to put that air in my tyres or is it just going to go to waste?

tools are required to measure the amount of christmas air you have. without an understanding of the volume you have you can not be sure how much you can add. perhaps this formula can help
[image: formula.jpeg]

You forgot to take into account volumetric egg nog consumption to rider weight ratio. This could seriously impact environmental performance during warm weather riding. Thus the reason 4th of July air is better. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/comp13.gif)

I am just waiting for BailyRock to chime in and say "45k miles and no air check performed yet!" (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)

hey hey lets not start another egg nog thread, ive told you guys time and time again that i have a perscription for egg nog and theres nothing i can do about it. Doc says if i dont take it then i may develope "grinch" which you all know is no fun at all.

Come on guys! can we please keep this off topic!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/pissed.gif) this is a very serious matter i am trying to address.


p.s. Kudos to the tires being used for a desert storage device. im thinking nacho cheese should be thoroughly melted after 10 miles. a dispensing hose and some chips and yum! question is : where do i store the japeleno's?

767fixer, Feb 20 2007, 04:58 PMCome on guys! can we please keep this off topic!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/pissed.gif) this is a very serious matter i am trying to address.


p.s. Kudos to the tires being used for a desert storage device. im thinking nacho cheese should be thoroughly melted after 10 miles. a dispensing hose and some chips and yum! question is : where do i store the japeleno's?

peppers ,whole and uncut should be stored in the handle bar and held in place with the bar ends.

chicken wings should be wrapped in foil and placed in exhuast pipe.. this keeps them hot and helps with back pressuse for more low end grunt. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/fing02.gif)

Hobie1dog, Feb 20 2007, 03:10 PM

Robert VFR, Feb 20 2007, 04:50 AMtotally irrelevant pic , but she is hot.
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Any write-up how to inflate the hot machine? Do I need any special tools? Heat shield? Are other machines same approach? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/biggrin.gif)

I thought she was the device to blow on your valve and make your tires hard. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/blink.gif)

That would make her a tire "fluffer" right? (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/491.gif)

I think I am catching on to the air changing stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/rolleyes.gif)

OMG this thread has gone downhill FAST!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/ohmy.gif)

My apologies to all the HOT WOMEN VFR RIDERS we have on this forum. Us guys will TRY to keep it clean from now on. (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/unsure.gif)

YEEEEEAAAHHH RIIIIIIGHT!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/oldemoticons/goofy.gif)

767fixer, Feb 20 2007, 03:39 PMalthough it is not necessary to remove old air when servicing, some choose to do so. any air that is taken out should be stored in a small trash bag and taken to your nearest recycling center. have to protect the enviroment!

Excellent info.
I was on my way to the recycle center with one bag holding the old front tire air, and the other that of the rear tire (they are very pickey about sorting your waste) as these youngsters came up to me asking "what's in the bags?". "Used tire air" I said, and they offered me a fiver. I took the fiver, but am wondering what it would fetch if I had put them up on eBay?
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