Ooooopppssss!

I decided to change my CCTs this morning.
The rear one took all of 20 minutes - No problem.
The front one, not so much.
I decided not to remove the throttle body, since there was plenty of room to work with once the wiring harness and a couple of vacuum tubes were out of the way.
I unscrewed the three bolts that hold the CCT and began pulling it out.  There was a little fuel line? hugging it and I kinda worked around it.  This caused me to tilt the CCT to one side and (in retrospect) this caused the metal cap on the inside to rub against the engine case.  
I think you know what happened next...  I hear a CLUNK - a sound of a cap falling into the guts of the engine :rolleyes:
I almost had a heart attack!
I was hoping that the damn thing would just stay where it fell, but no luck.  It went somewhere inside out of sight.

I jumped in a car and went to the local PepBoys to buy a flexible magnetic retractor - Thankfully, the cam is steel.

Now, I am going to go back and pray to the wrenching gods that I can fish it out.
If I fail.  If I do not succeed.  I will...  I don't know what I will do than.
This will be the end of my 08 riding season for sure.
I don't even want to think about it right now.
POSITIVE THOUGHTS.
Wish me luck.
I certainly need as much of it as I can get right now.

That sucks, Good luck. :rolleyes:

i'm sure you'll be able to get it out somehow. good luck.

I am relatively new to the VFR, but how about draining your oil? The piece might come right out with it. Also, when using one of those magnet things, sometimes it's good to put a piece of rubber hose around the magnet so the sides aren't magnetic and only the end is...where the hose isn't covering. Good luck!!! :rolleyes:

I GOT IT OUT!!!
Magnetic pick-up tool, a hanger, a lot of luck and some patience and it came out.

Thank you for wishing me luck!!!

yOU GUYS ARE THE BEST! :rolleyes:

[image: View Post]Rice, on Sep 20 2008, 09:35 AM, said:

This caused me to tilt the CCT to one side and (in retrospect) this caused the metal cap on the inside to rub against the engine case.  
I think you know what happened next...  I hear a CLUNK - a sound of a cap falling into the guts of the engine :blink:
Rice,
I don't know why or how you would have any problem or issue here, first there's only two bolts holding these in :rolleyes:
I thought the cap is supposed to be pinned in place, but it's just a snug fit on the rubber head. I found this out by playing with my old one's after reading your post! :mellow:
That does suck, but it is metal so hopefully you'll be able to fish it out otherwise a engine swap would be easier! :blink:

Let us know!

AWESOME !!!! Just read where you got it out! :fing02:    :fing02:    :fing02:

I did not know the cap wasn't pinned and this would be a great warning to anyone doing their own CCT's!

Glad to hear you got it out, Rice.   :rolleyes:

I think it's kind of funny that you stopped at the computer to start this thread before going to the auto parts store.  I'm not sure I'd be coherent enough to actually type!  I would have been so ticked and anxious that I'd probably lay rubber down the street running to the store in my cage!  http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif

PHEW!

Good thing you got it out, that's horrible!!


Now you have no excuses to not come to the Fall ride!  http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

Damn,  I am up next...my bikes getting a front CCT, yes...I am doing it myself but only when all planets are aligned correctly and I get the blessings of the Honda gods.  I drilled my fairings perfectly for the R & G kit so I can do this I think, we will see.  Doug

lucky!! I know where I'm taking mine when my CCT's fail , still I've got another 20,000 at least before I need to replace them http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif

The cap is not pinned , but it sits in a sleeve and even if it falls off, it normally doesnt somehow twist and fall into the engine. because it sits on top of the chain guide. But if it falls off and you dont have a magnet , fiddling trying to get it could cause such issue.

[image: View Post]vfr_steve, on Sep 20 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

lucky!! I know where I'm taking mine when my CCT's fail , still I've got another 20,000 at least before I need to replace them http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif
stock cct's can start making noise the day after you install a new one, there's no guarantee.  I bought a brand new one, started making noise 7,000 mile later.

now at 15,000 mile later it still makes noise intemittantly at idle but doesnt really matter, eventually I may remove and twist the body to increase spring tension, but I'm not buying another cct.

Rice, you really should sign up to work in an UXB (Unexploded Bomb) unit! :rolleyes:
Congratulations for avoiding a real riding season ender. :beer:   It proves that a little patience and creativity goes a long way to avoiding handing yet another load of money to your "friendly" dealership service department!

Beck
95 VFR

And just think of how handy that magnetic tool will be! Sometimes these scary little problems are a blessing in disguise - I usually look forward to excuses for buying new tools. :beer:



...Next time you drop a bolt in a hard to reach place, you might just say to yourself, "wow, I'm so glad my motor almost turned into a bomb, because if it hadn't, I might not have this tool right now"...








:rolleyes:    :lurk:

Rhubarb gave me a hand this summer when I dropped my keys UNDER my fuel tank and the airbox. Just slipped out of my fingers when I pulled it out of the ignition and wouldn't you know there is a nice little slot for them to fall into in between the frame rails and the tank...

:rolleyes:

Glad your 2008 riding season is saved......



But CCT's and all that........  
Stick to

GDC!!!

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:rolleyes:

[image: View Post]Baileyrock, on Sep 20 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

AWESOME !!!! Just read where you got it out! :rolleyes:    :beer:    :lurk:

I did not know the cap wasn't pinned and this would be a great warning to anyone doing their own CCT's! Indeed!
You may want to add this to the CCT How-To, which I used as a guide.

In retrospect, the fuel line (I gues it's a fuel return line or something) was what caused me to get in trouble in the first place.
I later used a tire iron to lever it out of the way and all was smooth from that point on.

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on Sep 20 2008, 03:35 PM, said:

And just think of how handy that magnetic tool will be! Sometimes these scary little problems are a blessing in disguise - I usually look forward to excuses for buying new tools. :rolleyes:

...Next time you drop a bolt in a hard to reach place, you might just say to yourself, "wow, I'm so glad my motor almost turned into a bomb, because if it hadn't, I might not have this tool right now"... Funny you should mention dropped bolts...

I actually dropped one of the bolts that hold CCT under the throttle body.  Yes, it wasn't my day...

The magnetic pick-up came in handy there as well :beer:

Now I have one.

Oh, and the first thing that came to mind was "There goes my trip to Catskills :lurk: "

Anyway, it's all good now.
The noise is gone and the engine sounds much healthier now.
I like.

Knowing what I know now, the whole job woulda taken me 1 hr tops.


Thanks to all for well wishes :wub:

[image: View Post]Rice, on Sep 20 2008, 05:04 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Baileyrock, on Sep 20 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

AWESOME !!!! Just read where you got it out! :rolleyes:    :beer:    :lurk:

I did not know the cap wasn't pinned and this would be a great warning to anyone doing their own CCT's! Indeed!
You may want to add this to the CCT How-To, which I used as a guide.

In retrospect, the fuel line (I gues it's a fuel return line or something) was what caused me to get in trouble in the first place.
I later used a tire iron to lever it out of the way and all was smooth from that point on.

Yes, I'll look to add it soon!

I didn't have that big of an issue with room around that line, just a time consuming hassle.
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[image: View Post]Dutchy, on Sep 20 2008, 04:35 PM, said:

[image: Posted Image] What's a CCT?   :rolleyes: (someone with a 5th had to say it http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif )

[image: View Post]Rice, on Sep 20 2008, 02:35 PM, said:

I decided to change my CCTs this morning.
The rear one took all of 20 minutes - No problem.
The front one, not so much.
I decided not to remove the throttle body, since there was plenty of room to work with once the wiring harness and a couple of vacuum tubes were out of the way.
I unscrewed the three bolts that hold the CCT and began pulling it out.  There was a little fuel line? hugging it and I kinda worked around it.  This caused me to tilt the CCT to one side and (in retrospect) this caused the metal cap on the inside to rub against the engine case.  
I think you know what happened next...  I hear a CLUNK - a sound of a cap falling into the guts of the engine :rolleyes:
I almost had a heart attack!
I was hoping that the damn thing would just stay where it fell, but no luck.  It went somewhere inside out of sight.

I jumped in a car and went to the local PepBoys to buy a flexible magnetic retractor - Thankfully, the cam is steel.

Now, I am going to go back and pray to the wrenching gods that I can fish it out.
If I fail.  If I do not succeed.  I will...  I don't know what I will do than.
This will be the end of my 08 riding season for sure.
I don't even want to think about it right now.
POSITIVE THOUGHTS.
Wish me luck.
I certainly need as much of it as I can get right now.

Ok, for those of us that don't know all the terms...CCT Stands for what?

cam chain tensioner