Riding home last night, when I got to my garage, when turning the front wheel to full lock I noticed a flicker. eveything just shut off for a millisecond. the next day I start the bike it warms up. the second I get on and adjust the wheel to move everything shuts off. no display no nothing I cycled the key on, off nothing the bike is completely flatlined. I have to go get my multimiter and start reading wires i checked and I have power on the battery.
my my fuses check out(dont lookblown) my only eletrical mods are grip heaters spliced into the tursignal fuse.
any Ideas? areas to check first? anyone have a similiar situation?
Have you checked the battery when the bike appears to be dead? Sounds like an ignition switch problem to me, is the clock still on?
[image: View Post]Tightwad, on Dec 2 2008, 02:49 PM, said:
Have you checked the battery when the bike appears to be dead? Sounds like an ignition switch problem to me, is the clock still on?
no the clock is dead. I can arm and disarm the bike alarm so I knwo the battery still has juice. I'm stumped what would cause the bike to just die?
[image: View Post]Zero_1, on Dec 2 2008, 06:25 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Tightwad, on Dec 2 2008, 02:49 PM, said:
Have you checked the battery when the bike appears to be dead? Sounds like an ignition switch problem to me, is the clock still on?
no the clock is dead. I can arm and disarm the bike alarm so I knwo the battery still has juice. I'm stumped what would cause the bike to just die?
You may of just answered your own question. Most alarms suck. I remove them all the time.
Sounds like the Starter Relay wiring may be bad, look to the alarm for a possible problem cause. Disconnecting the starter relay will reset the clock, even the 30 amp main fuse doesn't touch it.
I suggest you check out the wiring leading into the ignition switch (bottom of switch). My 5th gen '00 ignition switch exhibited similar behavior, and would even cut off electrical power while riding (turning at low speed and leaned over). Quite scary.
I judged the bike to be unsafe to ride and had it towed to a Honda shop, where they diagnosed the switch failure. I had to agree with them, as prior to sending them the bike, I tried wiggling the wires connecting to the switch and could replicate the problem.
Good luck in fixing your bike's issues.
I would also look for a pinched/exposed wire shorting against the frame or somewhere else like when you went full lock. :huh:
This is why I love VFRs go to test the starter relay after repairing the shorted wire to the grip heater. as i pull off the plug to connect the multimiter there is the relay fuse! and lo and behold its blown! so now I have to find a 30a fuse to test. wait. whats thins a spare 30a fuse rigt on the Relay!? YES! thank you Honda. bike fires up on first try.
so to sumarize the grip heater wire slipped a down and got caught down in between the steering lock and it just about sheared te wire in half last night i had the switch on low so when the wir hit the power flickered. then the mornig after when it was cold i switched the heater on high. The current, when it touched the frame grounded out and blew the relay fuse causeing the bike to flatline!
moral of the story when possible route your wires along the harness to avoid pinching them and blowing the relay fuse!!!
Gotta love a quick fix. :fing02:
[image: View Post]Zero_1, on Dec 4 2008, 05:51 PM, said:
This is why I love VFRs go to test the starter relay after repairing the shorted wire to the grip heater. as i pull off the plug to connect the multimiter there is the relay fuse! and lo and behold its blown! so now I have to find a 30a fuse to test. wait. whats thins a spare 30a fuse rigt on the Relay!? YES! thank you Honda. bike fires up on first try.
so to sumarize the grip heater wire slipped a down and got caught down in between the steering lock and it just about sheared te wire in half last night i had the switch on low so when the wir hit the power flickered. then the mornig after when it was cold i switched the heater on high. The current, when it touched the frame grounded out and blew the relay fuse causeing the bike to flatline!
moral of the story when possible route your wires along the harness to avoid pinching them and blowing the relay fuse!!!
The more important moral is to wire accessories to dedicated fuses so if they do this they don't take out the rest of the bike....
Glad you got it fixed, and that it wasn't anything serious!