Big day Tuesday, I have run quite a few bikes in, however with the VTec. I wondered. I usually vary the revs upto the running in limit for the first 200 to 300 miles and then ride more normal but never lugging the engine, I stay of motorways, keep to twisties.
But i know the vtec comes in above 6500, so for those last few hundred miles do you think i should get the vtec going, or wait till after the 1st service. My hunch is to wake up the vtec.
[image: View Post]honda1964, on Aug 28 2009, 05:18 PM, said:
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Big day Tuesday, I have run quite a few bikes in, however with the VTec. I wondered. I usually vary the revs upto the running in limit for the first 200 to 300 miles and then ride more normal but never lugging the engine, I stay of motorways, keep to twisties.
But i know the vtec comes in above 6500, so for those last few hundred miles do you think i should get the vtec going, or wait till after the 1st service. My hunch is to wake up the vtec.
I stayed below the first 270 miles, then started getting into it and riding it like I stole it the last 330 miles. I did this based on my mechanic's (30yr metric guy) recommendation.
Switched to synthetic at 600 miles; also had ALL fluids changed out as my bike was an 07 bought new in 09.
I kind of like the new school of, and I'm serious here, redline it through all the gears multiple times and then ride it like you stole it. :blink: err something like that. There was more to it than that, but I can't remember. supposed to "seat the rings properly" and give you more power and longer engine life.
The old school of babying it for a while was before we had modern manufacturing.
[image: View Post]achfly, on Aug 28 2009, 03:56 PM, said:
I kind of like the new school of, and I'm serious here, redline it through all the gears multiple times and then ride it like you stole it. :blink: err something like that. There was more to it than that, but I can't remember. supposed to "seat the rings properly" and give you more power and longer engine life.
The old school of babying it for a while was before we had modern manufacturing.
BLS posted a long write up on just this thing in the last few months, search the site for the article, it's a good read.
[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on Aug 28 2009, 10:52 PM, said:
[image: View Post]achfly, on Aug 28 2009, 03:56 PM, said:
I kind of like the new school of, and I'm serious here, redline it through all the gears multiple times and then ride it like you stole it. :blink: err something like that. There was more to it than that, but I can't remember. supposed to "seat the rings properly" and give you more power and longer engine life.
The old school of babying it for a while was before we had modern manufacturing.
BLS posted a long write up on just this thing in the last few months, search the site for the article, it's a good read.
Actually yes. There are two ways of doing it, and it's hotly debated. The newer understanding is that if you rev it properly at first the rings will "match" the pistons better. Still hotly debated, but it's a Honda, you really can't hurt it by giving it a few revs, and will probably do it some good. :)
As far as changing fluids go every year, I'm sure my 02 is on it's first set (other than oil, obviously) I really have been meaning to get around to that, but I still have good brake and clutch feel...
Hmm, I got into the v-tec just a few miles away from the dealer. I rode it fairly gently but I definately got into the vtec prior the the first oil change. Maybe I'm just getting used to the touchy fi but after about 800 miles on the bike I noticed the bike running smoother and felt oddly stronger on the low end than when I first got it. The sound and fury on the top end is impressive considering this thing is 'just' an 800cc motor.
[image: View Post]achfly, on Aug 28 2009, 06:56 PM, said:
I kind of like the new school of, and I'm serious here, redline it through all the gears multiple times and then ride it like you stole it. :blink: err something like that. There was more to it than that, but I can't remember. supposed to "seat the rings properly" and give you more power and longer engine life.
The old school of babying it for a while was before we had modern manufacturing.
I talked with a top notch KTM mechanic/suspension guru about a month ago and he strongly suggests riding the snot out of a new engine to seat the rings properly. He laughed about the "wives tales of babying" the new engines.
Tomorrow I'll turn 83,000 miles on my 04 that I got brand new....I ran it hard on the way home from the dealership(75miles) and changed the oil....still runs great, doesn't smoke a bit :fing02:
I picked up my '08 model about two weeks ago, so far I have less than 300km on it (been crappy weather here) but I've been exploring most of the rev range, but just not snapping open the throttle, rather, smoothly opening it up, this is what the dealership recomended and seems to fit the very vague recomendation in the owners manual.
Not meaning to hi-jack the thread, but figured it's still a 'running in' thing, is the fuel economy noticably worse with a brand new engine? I'm certainly not gettig the mpg (or kpl in my case) of what most people seem to and hopeing it will improve as the engine loosens up.
Anway, reading here has made me want to go put some more km's on the beast, I'm off.
[image: View Post]mugofevil, on Sep 1 2009, 01:11 AM, said:
I picked up my '08 model about two weeks ago, so far I have less than 300km on it (been crappy weather here) but I've been exploring most of the rev range, but just not snapping open the throttle, rather, smoothly opening it up, this is what the dealership recomended and seems to fit the very vague recomendation in the owners manual.
Not meaning to hi-jack the thread, but figured it's still a 'running in' thing, is the fuel economy noticably worse with a brand new engine? I'm certainly not gettig the mpg (or kpl in my case) of what most people seem to and hopeing it will improve as the engine loosens up.
Anway, reading here has made me want to go put some more km's on the beast, I'm off.
Shane
No, it shouldn't be that noticeable. Some people report engines "feel" better after being run-in, but I guess it depends, how low is your kpl (and if you convert it to mpg for us, you'll probably get more responses!)?
As far as good gas milage goes on a new bike.... I think it's all in the hand of the rider.... New, we're going to try diff rpm's testing what',what / and the need to vary the rpm at first..... or take it easy at first... but it all comes back to the rider.... Then there's also going to be better milage after everything seats....
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