For the v-tec owners....and some.
[image: View Post]adam79, on 03 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:
I was reading a thread at that "other site" and something someone said made me want to ask this ?. Do ya'll use the V-tech everytime you take the bike out for a ride?YES. ALWAYS. :wheel:
And it's VTEC....no H. :warranty:
[image: View Post]dutchinterceptor, on 03 March 2010 - 11:09 PM, said:
Hail yeah!!And it's VTEC....no H. :warranty:
I was just coming back correct it, but it looks like im to late.
[image: View Post]1996900sp, on 03 March 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:
With questions like this and other things I have read I often wonder if people know this engine was made to be revved? If you are in a canyon the engine is not even alive yet under 7k.. Weird bunch this VFR group.I wish we had canyons here in Oklahoma......or a curve, or something. What if I make a u-turn? That's almost a curve.....right? LoL.
[image: View Post]intercept this, on 04 March 2010 - 05:30 PM, said:
Takes me about 4.5 minutes to get to work, and I get into V-TEC every time. I just feel like I owe it to my bike :rolleyes:Depends on my mood! If I'm tired, I'll hit VTEC a couple of times only. Otherwise, bring on the ROAR!
Anyway, go for it I say, keep that V4 howling.
[image: View Post]AB-Oz, on 04 March 2010 - 07:06 AM, said:
I dont get it? I try to cruise at 5000rpm, so 7000 is not that big a jump. seeing 10-12,000 rpm is not unusual even on a commute.Anyway, go for it I say, keep that V4 howling.
:+1: :wheel: :wheel:
[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 04 March 2010 - 05:12 AM, said:
[image: View Post]AB-Oz, on 04 March 2010 - 07:06 AM, said:
I dont get it? I try to cruise at 5000rpm, so 7000 is not that big a jump. seeing 10-12,000 rpm is not unusual even on a commute.Anyway, go for it I say, keep that V4 howling.
:+1: :wheel: :wheel:
x2
[image: View Post]rufrydrsc2, on 04 March 2010 - 06:22 AM, said:
Personally the only time I hit V-tec is when I'm passing someone or really opening it up in a straight line. I never even come close to hitting V-tec when I'm in the mountains, usually keeping my bike at around 4-5K all the time. I definitely have to join in with the crowd that hits it everytime though, as I love to let her stretch her legs on some of these country back roads.I guess Im kinda the opposite..
When cruising down the 4lane or open road I usually shift up or down right at the engagement point.
If Im running a tight twisty road My Rpms are at the engagement point or higher..
Its just more fun that way..
[image: View Post]adam79, on 04 March 2010 - 12:40 AM, said:
[image: View Post]1996900sp, on 03 March 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:
With questions like this and other things I have read I often wonder if people know this engine was made to be revved? If you are in a canyon the engine is not even alive yet under 7k.. Weird bunch this VFR group.I wish we had canyons here in Oklahoma......or a curve, or something. What if I make a u-turn? That's almost a curve.....right? LoL.
Your gonna come to the Arkansas ride aren't ya....plenty of opportunities for VTEC!!
Here's a good place in your area.:fing02:
Full Size
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/skuuter/PineMountainskuuter.jpg
...or went ridin' with the "Wrong People"..... :goofy:
[image: View Post]rapsidy, on 04 March 2010 - 09:37 AM, said:
The people who dont must have some awesome self control, how do you not hit it in first and second, I do every time I leave home:+1: :wheel:
[image: View Post]rapsidy, on 04 March 2010 - 08:37 AM, said:
The people who dont must have some awesome self control, how do you not hit it in first and second, I do every time I leave homeI usually leave home before it's warm enough to engage....but I hit it at least some time through my commute...
[image: View Post]rufrydrsc2, on 04 March 2010 - 05:22 AM, said:
Personally the only time I hit V-tec is when I'm passing someone or really opening it up in a straight line. I never even come close to hitting V-tec when I'm in the mountains, usually keeping my bike at around 4-5K all the time. I definitely have to join in with the crowd that hits it everytime though, as I love to let her stretch her legs on some of these country back roads.:+1:
In general while running a fast PACE especially with -1 front gearing I can easily maintain a rapid pace and be blow Vtec most of the time on my 400 mile loops. Of course if I jump out of the Pace and wick it up I'll rev it hard! ;)
I can lung 5th & 6th down to 3k and accelerate w/o issue.
Vtec engagement has Never been an issue for my vtec in the last 70k+ miles and I've never agreed with the "keep it above or below engagement method". ;p
BR
[image: View Post]hondalover, on 04 March 2010 - 07:22 AM, said:
I have gone an entire tank of fuel without engaging vtec, and I can tell you that it did not affect my MPG, but it did make for a boring 200 miles.:laugh:
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 04 March 2010 - 10:27 AM, said:
...and I've never agreed with the "keep it above or below engagement method". ;p+1. With the PCIII and O2 eliminators I installed a couple years ago, my '04's VTEC transition is butter smooth, so when I'm riding hard in the twisties I'm constantly going back and forth, punching up to 10k rpm and back down to 5k as needed. For technique reasons and b/c it's fun. Gotta love the sound way up there on the tach, too! ;)
Too much thought going on about riding "above/below the engagement"....just ride the darn bike like you like and quit looking at the tach. Keep your eye on where your going and have some fun! These bikes definatelly come to life in the higher rpms. I personally like the 8-9 grand range. Heck I like riding at any rpm :biggrin: !
[image: View Post]rufrydrsc2, on 04 March 2010 - 04:22 AM, said:
Personally the only time I hit V-tec is when I'm passing someone or really opening it up in a straight line. I never even come close to hitting V-tec when I'm in the mountains, usually keeping my bike at around 4-5K all the time. I definitely have to join in with the crowd that hits it everytime though, as I love to let her stretch her legs on some of these country back roads.How can you ride a canyon/mountain and not get into the real meat and powerband of this motor? Unless you get into the upper revs this motor doesn't even make any power. Have you done a few track days? That has really shaped my motor use. From your avatar it looks like you are the fastest 4k RPM rider out there! Captain Lug Motor.
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/public/style_images/light/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />panamawing, on 04 March 2010 - 11:06 AM, said:
What's this "v-tec" everyone is talking about?Too much thought going on about riding "above/below the engagement"....just ride the darn bike like you like and quit looking at the tach. Keep your eye on where your going and have some fun! These bikes definatelly come to life in the higher rpms. I personally like the 8-9 grand range. Heck I like riding at any rpm http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif !
Actually I dont even think about it really.. It just happpens..
Dirk
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[image: View Post]adam79, on 04 March 2010 - 12:45 AM, said:
I was reading a thread at that "other site" and something someone said made me want to ask this ?. Do ya'll use the Vtec everytime you take the bike out for a ride?If ya Don't use it sell the bike and buy a moped....http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/goofy.gif http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif
Wait a minute...............:goofy:
Check the sig.:wheel:
To each their own. :happy:
[image: View Post]ericlw, on 04 March 2010 - 10:49 PM, said:
well I dont try to hit it or not usually. I just ride it. though really i do sometimes like to run it hard some to get the vtec valves moving,lubed,blow the carbon out.maybe thats stupid but 7000 is hardly redline for a vtec so i dont see the big deal.I'm with you on why I will always use all valves every ride, just to know everything has been used.
You can' be serious Bailey! I'm gonna have to try that :excl:
I never had a problem with VTEC when in tight twisties, the 6th gen is top dog for that, but sweepers-- ugh.
[image: View Post]1996900sp, on 04 March 2010 - 02:52 PM, said:
How can you ride a canyon/mountain and not get into the real meat and powerband of this motor? Unless you get into the upper revs this motor doesn't even make any power. Have you done a few track days? That has really shaped my motor use. From your avatar it looks like you are the fastest 4k RPM rider out there! Captain Lug Motor.95% of my riding is mountains as I can be deep in Western NC in no more than 30 min. Many of the roads I ride here have little to no straight between corners so if you continuously carry a good corner speed then you have no need for the real powerband. Most of the time I'm taking corners around here at or over the speed limit already, so I see no need to crank it out of them when I'm already coming out of it with the correct speed for the next one. Plus I find that in the really tight technical stuff I'm loading and unloading my front more than I like if I really lay on the power. Even riding 2up, which I do just as quick as you see in my avatar, I never hit V-tec in the twisties. Don't worry, my friends don't understand it either, but BR does. Don't get me wrong, I can wick it up (just ask SilverPete03 who I ride with quite often), and sometimes I get a wild hair up my butt and want to power :wheel: out of tight uphill hairpins, but these mountains bite a lot of people each year and I keep in the back of my mind that I have no interest in having that happen again. So yes, I will accept the title Capt. Lug Motor and wear it proudly. LOL.
[image: View Post]rufrydrsc2, on 05 March 2010 - 06:25 AM, said:
[image: View Post]1996900sp, on 04 March 2010 - 02:52 PM, said:
How can you ride a canyon/mountain and not get into the real meat and powerband of this motor? Unless you get into the upper revs this motor doesn't even make any power. Have you done a few track days? That has really shaped my motor use. From your avatar it looks like you are the fastest 4k RPM rider out there! Captain Lug Motor.95% of my riding is mountains as I can be deep in Western NC in no more than 30 min. Many of the roads I ride here have little to no straight between corners so if you continuously carry a good corner speed then you have no need for the real powerband. Most of the time I'm taking corners around here at or over the speed limit already, so I see no need to crank it out of them when I'm already coming out of it with the correct speed for the next one. Plus I find that in the really tight technical stuff I'm loading and unloading my front more than I like if I really lay on the power. Even riding 2up, which I do just as quick as you see in my avatar, I never hit V-tec in the twisties. Don't worry, my friends don't understand it either, but BR does. Don't get me wrong, I can wick it up (just ask SilverPete03 who I ride with quite often), and sometimes I get a wild hair up my butt and want to power :wheel: out of tight uphill hairpins, but these mountains bite a lot of people each year and I keep in the back of my mind that I have no interest in having that happen again. So yes, I will accept the title Capt. Lug Motor and wear it proudly. LOL.
:fing02: :+1:
Ride-on!
The only difference for me is I never speed or ride fast! ;)
BR
[image: View Post]BaileyRock, on 05 March 2010 - 09:49 AM, said:
The only difference for me is I never speed or ride fast! ;)And how long is your nose at this point, Kev? ;p
I tend to run the speed limit or a little over in the straights, including on the freeway (most of the time anyway), so most of my VTEC time is only in serious twisties. But like I said before, I hit it at least once every ride to keep the valves "fresh".
And let's be honest - VFRs love revving way up on the tach in the first place. Sometimes I think my bike enjoys it as much as I do! :)
I was coming across the ferry in WA state one time and was talking to another 6th gen guy as our bikes were parked next to each other. We started having a discussion on Vtec and he didn't know what I was talking about. I'm serious. I told him, you must notice it when the revs hit seven grand? He looked confused as if he still didn't know what I was talking about. I'm suspecting he never had it above seven grand. Oh my :ohmy:
[image: View Post]TimC, on 05 March 2010 - 09:38 AM, said:
And let's be honest - VFRs love revving way up on the tach in the first place. Sometimes I think my bike enjoys it as much as I do! :)Exactly.
Here's a typical situation for me... Maybe someone else out there recognizes it:
Stuck in traffic, on the way home from work, during part of my freeway slog. Traffic is stop-and-go, rarely stopping completely, but way under the speed limit.
I am going to stay in whatever gear best conserves my motion, keeps me ready to zip ahead of the tailgater behind me, and gives me enough engine braking to really just ease on/off the throttle to control my speed without touching the brakes. Many times that means I am going to idle along at 7K-8K rpm for a bit, but it doesn't make sense to shift up, let the revs go back down to below-VTEC range, and then have to downshift and put on the brakes because traffic speed slows ten seconds later.
It's all a little mind game I play when commuting, kinda like "Watch Out For The Guy On The Phone" or "Can The Semi See You?" So far my scores have been pretty good. But for me, none of those games has a rule called "Avoid engaging VTEC." :fing02:
What guy out there, with a sportbike, just uses the first 7000 RPM's ?????????
Unless you go through traffic from light to light, with a 20 to 30 mph limit, then ya
you "use" it.
And its not like its a turbo or something that only gets "used" when you
feel like twisting the throttle. Its just VTEC boys, a kick in the shorts at 7000 RPM and
a nice honking noise.
[image: View Post]vfrJR, on 05 March 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:
What a stupid ass question!!!!!!!!What guy out there, with a sportbike, just uses the first 7000 RPM's ?????????
Unless you go through traffic from light to light, with a 20 to 30 mph limit, then ya
you "use" it.
And its not like its a turbo or something that only gets "used" when you
feel like twisting the throttle. Its just VTEC boys, a kick in the shorts at 7000 RPM and
a nice honking noise.
Wow, member with 4 posts on the forum gets testy.....far out.... :rolleyes: The only stupid question is the one that wasn't asked....except oil questions.... :goofy:
Yes, I engage VTEC every time I ride, but like BaileyRock, can run the twisties quick with it not in VTEC at my PACE. Just depends on how many RPM's make sense for each direction change and what the road is like at the given time, place and condition. Smile, be happy...... :biggrin: :wheel:
[image: View Post]dutchinterceptor, on 04 March 2010 - 07:27 AM, said:
[image: View Post]adam79, on 04 March 2010 - 12:40 AM, said:
[image: View Post]1996900sp, on 03 March 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:
With questions like this and other things I have read I often wonder if people know this engine was made to be revved? If you are in a canyon the engine is not even alive yet under 7k.. Weird bunch this VFR group.I wish we had canyons here in Oklahoma......or a curve, or something. What if I make a u-turn? That's almost a curve.....right? LoL.
Your gonna come to the Arkansas ride aren't ya....plenty of opportunities for VTEC!!
Here's a good place in your area.:fing02:
Full Size
Still not sure if I'll be able to make the ride just yet. Might be changing jobs soon and if I do, I don't think my new employer will like me calling in sick for three or so days. I've been wanting to take a ride on that route, just haven't made it that way. My dad and I just rode to Tulsa Ok last week and I mentioned that route to him on the way back, but it was just to many miles in a day.
He probably thought that was a very good thing, but I couldn't help but think that was a negative....
[image: View Post]adam79, on 09 March 2010 - 05:55 PM, said:
Still not sure if I'll be able to make the ride just yet. Might be changing jobs soon and if I do, I don't think my new employer will like me calling in sick for three or so days. I've been wanting to take a ride on that route, just haven't made it that way. My dad and I just rode to Tulsa Ok last week and I mentioned that route to him on the way back, but it was just to many miles in a day.You can always make a two day ride out of it and stay in Mena or at the Queen Wilhelmina Lodge near the state line. It truly is a beautiful area. :fing02:
[image: View Post]enzed_viffer, on 09 March 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:
This thread reminds me - some time ago, I was browsing the for sale ads here for secondhand bikes, and there was a low-mileage Vtec for sale. The owner proudly proclaimed that he had never *ever* revved it high enough to have the Vtec engage. :blink:He probably thought that was a very good thing, but I couldn't help but think that was a negative....
How could that possibly be a negative? That means you are getting a low mileage bike that you know has never ever been beaten on. That's like finding a sports car driven only on sundays by a little old lady.