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Wiped out today, so i will clean my tires after every chain lube from now on.

30 posts Started 8 Sep 2010 Last recovered post 10 Sep 2010 Wayback Machine snapshot 12 Sep 2010

#1
I sure will from now on. i lubbed my chain, and i guess i must have gotten a bit of it on my tire. i hadent thought so, but i took off down the road to a sharp curv. slowed down, went about half the speed i could normally take a curv like that, and the bike just slid out from under me.

i cannot figure out how I fell. it was NOT my turning technique, i slowed down. the cop that almost gave me a ticket and was convinced that I was speeding.

my only guess is lube on the tire. dry road, no greese on the road. new tires. going slow. i just dont get it.

my leg is scratched up, my bike is scratched up, and i just dont get it. but i will be cleaning my back tire every time i lube the chain.
#2

[image: View Post]birddseedd, on 08 September 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

. new tires. going slow. i just dont get it.


How new?

Sorry to hear you went down. :sad:
#3
Yeah, before you beat yourself up over your lube technique, how new are those tires?
#4
Unless you really sprayed enough chain lube on the tire tread surface, an incidental splatter on them shouldn't really cause a crash. Must be you new (mold release chemicals) and cold tires coming into play.

Beck
95 VFR
#5
Sorry to hear you went down too, that sucks!

But yeah if those tires are new and haven't been scrubbed in yet maybe a little chain lube was enough to take you over the edge of adhesion.

Glad you manage do avoid the ticket at least. :)
#6
less than 1k front. few k miles rear.


used dry lube. tephalon stuff from dupont.

they were cold, but still. i didnt hit that curve very hard.

i just dont get it.... i really dont.
#7

[image: View Post]birddseedd, on 08 September 2010 - 07:07 PM, said:

less than 1k front. few k miles rear.


used dry lube. tephalon stuff from dupont.

they were cold, but still. i didnt hit that curve very hard.

i just dont get it.... i really dont.

Check your air pressure and report back...
#8
Sorry to hear mate.

Depending the position you spray the lube on you may get some on the face of the tyre. And if you are spinning the wheel while applying it could cover quite a length. The way I lube sometimes see alittle oil get on the side wall. I just dab it off with paper towel.

What model VFR?
#9
I thought everyone put a piece of cardboard behind their chain when spraying lube? No? Just me then, I guess...

Sorry about your off.
#10
Sorry to hear about your fall. Maybe too much front brake during the turn? Hard to get chain lube on the front tire (I presume your front tire gave out mid turn).
#11

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 08 September 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

I thought everyone put a piece of cardboard behind their chain when spraying lube? No? Just me then, I guess...

Sorry about your off.


Beat me to it Seb, that's exactly what I do. MGD cartons work great.
Take the middle cardboard out of the 30 or 36 can pack, you don't even have to cut it to size. :biggrin:

Sorry about the fall bird... Glad it wasn't too bad. I wouldn't call tires with 1,000k "new".
They should likely be in good shape at that time in their life though.
#12
Dude, did you wipe out from too much dry chain lube? You just had a post up singing the praises of the dry stuff. Now this. What's up with that?
#13

[image: View Post]timmythecop, on 05 September 2010 - 12:24 AM, said:

i got 27,000 miles out of my last RK chain. I think I sprayed chain lube on it like 10 times. You can over clean and or over lube your chain.

That's what I'm saying about this whole chain maintinance thing. It get so overblown we end up over tightening over lubing and under riding our bikes.

I think you just talked me out of using any dry lube near my bike. My guess is drylube overspray on the garage floor is harder to detect. You may have rolled your front wheel through it moving your bike out.. Was it a left hander? Same side as the chain and side stand. Front tire slides are almost an instant low side. Rear may give you a chance to correct out of it.

either way sorry to hear about your get off. I wouldn't worry about washing your tires after lubing. Make sure you clean the garage floor where you spray that stuff. I know it really sucks to go down and scratch up your baby but don't let it get you down. Feather sanding and touch up paint.
#14
Sorry to hear about the crash. :sad: Glad you and the bike aren't too bad off though.

I use chain wax almost exclusively but haven't used the cardboard trick Seb and Lee mentioned. Still, I've never had an issue over literally dozens of times I've lubed the chain. But I think I'll start using the cardboard separation method, too. :fing02:
#15
What about the road surface? My last slide down the road was on a bend going at half the speed I would normally take it at. I walked back and found diesel on the road, but it was invisible from the bike.
#16

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 08 September 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

I thought everyone put a piece of cardboard behind their chain when spraying lube? No? Just me then, I guess...

Sorry about your off.

Nope, you are not alone....... I do exactly the same when I lube my chains.

Beck
95 VFR
#17

[image: View Post]Beck, on 08 September 2010 - 10:39 PM, said:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 08 September 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

I thought everyone put a piece of cardboard behind their chain when spraying lube? No? Just me then, I guess...

Sorry about your off.

Nope, you are not alone....... I do exactly the same when I lube my chains.

Beck
95 VFR


same here. keeps everything clean.
#18

[image: View Post]FalseFiction1, on 08 September 2010 - 11:03 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Beck, on 08 September 2010 - 10:39 PM, said:

[image: View Post]SEBSPEED, on 08 September 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

I thought everyone put a piece of cardboard behind their chain when spraying lube? No? Just me then, I guess...

Sorry about your off.

Nope, you are not alone....... I do exactly the same when I lube my chains.

Beck
95 VFR


same here. keeps everything clean.


I do the same. Works.
#19
I dont do anything to my chain - ha he he ah (evil laughing)
#20
its a 4 gen.

i really dont know what happoned, left turn, lean into turn, bike fell.

i dont think it was because the lube was a dry wax type lube, but i am goign to do the cardboard thing aswell. even if it only keeps me off the pavement once itl be worth it.

though i think this is the first hard curv iv taken with the bik..... no, i did take some curvs with this tire, not quite this tight though.
#21

[image: View Post]HispanicSlammer, on 09 September 2010 - 01:34 AM, said:

I dont do anything to my chain - ha he he ah (evil laughing)


Hey, pipe down over there...






:goofy:
#22
[quote name='SEBSPEED' timestamp='1283992544' post='733284']
I thought everyone put a piece of cardboard behind their chain when spraying lube? No? Just me then, I guess...

Sorry about your off.
+1 I have a square piece of card board cut with a "V" into it for entry onto the sprocket area. Works great
!!!!!!!!!!!!
#23
With 1k miles on the front and a few k miles on the back I highly doubt it was the molding compound. I lube my chain regularly with similar chain lube and have never had a problem. Of course I also use several sheets of paper towel to keep the spray on the chain and not the bike (just like everyone else with the card board trick). Then I wipe off the excess lube on the outside of the links.

Unless you went spray crazy I just can't see how that would have been the cause of your problems. I would be checking the curve for dirt or debris and such. And were you saying you are still new to the bike when you said it was the first hard curve you have taken with it? Maybe it was a combination of all thee above? At least you and the bike are ok and you will definitely be more aware next time through. :fing02:
#24
i just make sure i do a proper burnout to clean the rear. Then coat the front tire in some alcohol and lite her up. works great and saves warm up time.














j/k - i do not accept liability if someone were to ACTUALLY try these steps to clean their tires.
#25
Sorry about your crash. Sounds exactly like mine 2 mos ago - no dirt, no grease, wasn't speeding, etc. - couldn't figure out how it happened. I've taken this hairpin turn many times before so the only thing I can think of is maybe I hit the Crampbuster cruise control as I was preparing to enter (won't put that on again unless I'm on the highway). Bike just flew out from under me. It's a right turn so I don't think chain lube could be the cause. Banged up knee, scratched up plastic and bruised ego but OK otherwise. BTW, for those in CO, it was the first sharp turn on the way up Berthoud Pass.
#26
quick Q & A :

how many miles were on your chain...

what would make you think you needed to lube it...
#27

[image: View Post]taglicious, on 09 September 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

quick Q & A :

how many miles were on your chain...

what would make you think you needed to lube it...

chain has 1k or less miles on it. the lube dried up, so i relubed it. the lube i use also cleans
#28
Heck, if nothing seems to explain how the tire(s) slipped....it could be just some diesel fuel on the road........trucks usually dump the stuff on curves as it sloshes around in their sometimes leaky fuel tanks.
Beck
95 VFR
#29
Honda's manual say's lube the chain every 500m.... There seems to be a lot of different service intervals being done (or not done) which is always good to know for people like me that lubes mine between 300 & 500...... I also use a cardboard shield when lubing...... And I'll let the wheel run under power (1st gear) on the centre stand after l lube the chain to allow the heat and motion to distribute the lube for a minute or so......... Then I put her to bed for the night...........

But diesel fuel (etc.) sure sounds like the culprit in this case.......... Which by the way brings up an observation on Polarized sunglasses......... Is that it makes it hard if not impossible to see slick spots on the road.........
#30

[image: View Post]Beck, on 09 September 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Heck, if nothing seems to explain how the tire(s) slipped....it could be just some diesel fuel on the road........trucks usually dump the stuff on curves as it sloshes around in their sometimes leaky fuel tanks.
Beck
95 VFR


Good thought Beck. I've found that a lot of diesel fuel/gasoline winds up on the road when people fill their cars up and have to get that last drop in their tank and wind up leaving a little bit around the filler neck.
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