The ST1300 is a 90 degree configuration, so it has inherent balance. In fact the only thing smoother (or as smooth) is inline 6 or 60 deg V-6 (90 deg V8's are same as two V4's). Any other configuration is out of balance at some point in the engine revolution.
IIRC, the new VFR has a 72 deg V, and the resulting vibration is 'lessened' by the offset crank and engine dampers.
I haven't driven the VFR1200 (yet) but based on the technical baseline, I'd have to go with the ST1300 as having less vibration.
I put 27k on an st1300 before selling it to get my new vfr1200. I have a little over 5k on the vfr....it is smoother in every respect...I miss the windscreen a little and the hardcase saddlebags a little but that's all. For me at least, there is no comparison in terms of handling...braking...power...smoothness...or cool points.
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It's not really a fair fight!
The ST1300 is a 90 degree configuration, so it has inherent balance. In fact the only thing smoother (or as smooth) is inline 6 or 60 deg V-6 (90 deg V8's are same as two V4's). Any other configuration is out of balance at some point in the engine revolution.
IIRC, the new VFR has a 72 deg V, and the resulting vibration is 'lessened' by the offset crank and engine dampers.
I haven't driven the VFR1200 (yet) but based on the technical baseline, I'd have to go with the ST1300 as having less vibration.
[image: View Post]vee1cut, on 10 October 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:
I put 27k on an st1300 before selling it to get my new vfr1200. I have a little over 5k on the vfr....it is smoother in every respect...I miss the windscreen a little and the hardcase saddlebags a little but that's all. For me at least, there is no comparison in terms of handling...braking...power...smoothness...or cool points.
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It's not really a fair fight!
The ST1300 is a 90 degree configuration, so it has inherent balance. In fact the only thing smoother (or as smooth) is inline 6 or 60 deg V-6 (90 deg V8's are same as two V4's). Any other configuration is out of balance at some point in the engine revolution.
IIRC, the new VFR has a 72 deg V, and the resulting vibration is 'lessened' by the offset crank and engine dampers.
I haven't driven the VFR1200 (yet) but based on the technical baseline, I'd have to go with the ST1300 as having less vibration.
[image: View Post]vee1cut, on 10 October 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:
I put 27k on an st1300 before selling it to get my new vfr1200. I have a little over 5k on the vfr....it is smoother in every respect...I miss the windscreen a little and the hardcase saddlebags a little but that's all. For me at least, there is no comparison in terms of handling...braking...power...smoothness...or cool points.
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It's not really a fair fight!
The ST1300 is a 90 degree configuration, so it has inherent balance. In fact the only thing smoother (or as smooth) is inline 6 or 60 deg V-6 (90 deg V8's are same as two V4's). Any other configuration is out of balance at some point in the engine revolution.
IIRC, the new VFR has a 72 deg V, and the resulting vibration is 'lessened' by the offset crank and engine dampers.
I haven't driven the VFR1200 (yet) but based on the technical baseline, I'd have to go with the ST1300 as having less vibration.
Well go figure! :blush:
Now I HAVE to go for a test ride on the new VFR1200. The Honda Powersport dealer near me has a demo and everything, but I'm afraid to try it...well actually I'm afraid I'm might be seduced to buy it...gotta hold out until they slash MSRP prices...shouldn't be long now, winter is almost on us up here in Montreal.
[image: View Post]DDO-VFR, on 10 October 2010 - 01:17 PM, said:
It's not really a fair fight!
The ST1300 is a 90 degree configuration, so it has inherent balance. In fact the only thing smoother (or as smooth) is inline 6 or 60 deg V-6 (90 deg V8's are same as two V4's). Any other configuration is out of balance at some point in the engine revolution.
IIRC, the new VFR has a 72 deg V, and the resulting vibration is 'lessened' by the offset crank and engine dampers.
I haven't driven the VFR1200 (yet) but based on the technical baseline, I'd have to go with the ST1300 as having less vibration.
I would say the 1300 would be smoother...incredibly smooth but NOT as smooth as the flat six Wing.
[image: View Post]BonusVFR, on 10 October 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:
[image: View Post]DDO-VFR, on 10 October 2010 - 01:17 PM, said:
It's not really a fair fight!
The ST1300 is a 90 degree configuration, so it has inherent balance. In fact the only thing smoother (or as smooth) is inline 6 or 60 deg V-6 (90 deg V8's are same as two V4's). Any other configuration is out of balance at some point in the engine revolution.
IIRC, the new VFR has a 72 deg V, and the resulting vibration is 'lessened' by the offset crank and engine dampers.
I haven't driven the VFR1200 (yet) but based on the technical baseline, I'd have to go with the ST1300 as having less vibration.
I would say the 1300 would be smoother...incredibly smooth but NOT as smooth as the flat six Wing.
Incidentally... Today Istruck up conversation with a few geezers on ST's. ( I was out alone my crew went elsewhere to play in the mud with quads, bleh).
So, a few shots of Puerto Rico's finest later,,, off we go... and I had a bit of trouble keeping up with the old mfgrs!, hot damn. They would just keep on passing with oncoming traffic, lean to 8/10s on blind corners, etc... Those things can rail!.
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