1200 transplant

can any of you mechanically minded folk shed light on possibility of a gen 7 engine i a gen 6 fram, running as conventional chain drive.
discuss.

Anythings possible with enough money. :491:

But I can think of a few things off the top of my head that would make your life "interesting". Shaft to chain would be an "fun" project, mounting points for the two different engines another, then there is the weight issues. You would be making a heavy 6th gen into a heavier frankenviffer. But I would say go for it and see what you can pull off. It would be fun to watch. :fing02:

vanion2, on 14 February 2011 - 10:37 AM, said:

Anythings possible with enough money. :491:


Agreed.

What is it you're after? Just more power? You'd be better off installing a ToroCharger. You'd probably get very close to the output of the 1200 but your bike would be lighter, handle better and there would be a LOT less headaches. But, if you're just after the challenge and have the chops to do it, go for it!

No it would not be possible for any amount of money.... unless you didn't need a rear wheel. There would be nowhere on the bike for a swingarm pivot.

The best chassis for a VFR1200 engine is a VFR1200 chassis.

Like the previous poster said, if it's power you're after then a Torocharger would be a better answer. Though that would leave you with a 170hp engine in a bike with a frame, brakes and suspension designed to handle 110hp.

bootrossbootross, on 14 February 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

can any of you mechanically minded folk shed light on possibility of a gen 7 engine i a gen 6 fram, running as conventional chain drive.
discuss.


You must be kidding me ...... :laughing6-hehe:

I guess it is a question to ask....





But euh.....




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But if you one really wants to put a larger engine in a VFR.............


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tyrroneous, on 14 February 2011 - 12:53 PM, said:

vanion2, on 14 February 2011 - 10:37 AM, said:

Anythings possible with enough money. :491:


Agreed.

What is it you're after? Just more power? You'd be better off installing a ToroCharger. You'd probably get very close to the output of the 1200 but your bike would be lighter, handle better and there would be a LOT less headaches. But, if you're just after the challenge and have the chops to do it, go for it!

ToroCharger on a 1200 sounds about right to me! :fing02:

phobe, on 14 February 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

Though that would leave you with a 170hp engine in a bike with a frame, brakes and suspension designed to handle 110hp.


And after modifying the frame to accept the weight, engine mounts, swing arm etc.....you would have succeeded in re-inventing the wheel....building the VFR frame! :biggrin:

You would achieve a better result by starting from scratch and building a custom frame to which you could attach your 800 bodywork.

You mean there are already wrecked 1200s available out there?

Knife, on 14 February 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

You mean there are already wrecked 1200s available out there?


Its been a year to the day.....that's more than enough time!!! :laughing6-hehe:

A Torocharger on a 1200... hmm! :cheerleader:

Transplant a DCT version into a shifter kart.
I bet that would go like hell. :goofy:

Just get a V65 Sabre and restore it or update the plastic.

[image: View Post]phobe, on 14 February 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

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Like the previous poster said, if it's power you're after then a Torocharger would be a better answer. Though that would leave you with a 170hp engine in a bike with a frame, brakes and suspension designed to handle 110hp.

[image: View Post]toro1, on 03 March 2011 - 12:12 PM, said:

I'm sure anyone who owns or has ridden a blown VFR will tell you that (compared to a stock VFR, that is) in no way does the frame, brakes, and/or suspension feel overtaxed from the extra power. If you're unhappy with those items before the install, you'll be unhappy with them after the install, too. Now, if you feel that power wheelies are too much for the chassis, then I suggest you either lower the bike, gear it out to wazoo, practice greater throttle control, or just enjoy the ride.



I know it's been a long while but I thought I should post this. I have purchased the Torocharger for my '04 by the way and hope to have it installed at the beginning of the summer...

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[image: View Post]phobe, on 14 February 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

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Like the previous poster said, if it's power you're after then a Torocharger would be a better answer. Though that would leave you with a 170hp engine in a bike with a frame, brakes and suspension designed to handle 110hp.

[image: View Post]toro1, on 03 March 2011 - 12:12 PM, said:

I'm sure anyone who owns or has ridden a blown VFR will tell you that (compared to a stock VFR, that is) in no way does the frame, brakes, and/or suspension feel overtaxed from the extra power. If you're unhappy with those items before the install, you'll be unhappy with them after the install, too. Now, if you feel that power wheelies are too much for the chassis, then I suggest you either lower the bike, gear it out to wazoo, practice greater throttle control, or just enjoy the ride.



I know it's been a long while but I thought I should post this. I have purchased the Torocharger for my '04 by the way and hope to have it installed at the beginning of the summer...

Massive envy attack here.

Good Luck

Me personally I would like to have seen a V6 (1000cc�s) in the 6th gen with upgraded front sliders and NO VTEC !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[image: View Post]Switchblade, on 17 March 2011 - 05:47 AM, said:

Me personally I would like to have seen a V6 (1000cc's) in the 6th gen with upgraded front sliders and NO VTEC !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would you want a V6? :blink:

The 7th generation VFR should have come with a 180hp V5, a curb weight of 375 lbs, fully adjustable ohlins suspension, HIDs, full factory hard luggage, motogp level electronics package and MSRP of $8995.00. Honda have lost the plot WTF were they thinking?

[image: View Post]Switchblade, on 17 March 2011 - 05:47 AM, said:

Me personally I would like to have seen a V6 (1000cc's) in the 6th gen with upgraded front sliders and NO VTEC !!!!!!!!!!!!!



The new Beemer K and K-LT has a six cylinder. Only $23,000 to $28,000 or so.

[image: View Post]Knife, on 17 March 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

[image: View Post]Switchblade, on 17 March 2011 - 05:47 AM, said:

Me personally I would like to have seen a V6 (1000cc's) in the 6th gen with upgraded front sliders and NO VTEC !!!!!!!!!!!!!



The new Beemer K and K-LT has a six cylinder. Only $23,000 to $28,000 or so.


...not to mention that it is HUGE!!! People think the V12 is big, have you seen the new K-Light Truck??? lol

how about a 5th gen engine in a 7th gen? Sorry..

phobe, on 17 March 2011 - 10:44 AM, said:

The 7th generation VFR should have come with a 180hp V5, a curb weight of 375 lbs, fully adjustable ohlins suspension, HIDs, full factory hard luggage, motogp level electronics package and MSRP of $8995.00. Honda have lost the plot WTF were they thinking?

WOW! It's like you read my mind, I would have definitely been buying that bike! :fing02:

For a bonus, can we give it the design cues from the 1098/1198?