3rd gen VFR to CBR Fairing conversion

Hello guys!

Finally, I´m one of the proud owners of a VFR 750! This is also my first post on VFRD so, Hello everyone! :)

I bought it just last last week and after some short rides I can say - she´s awesome! :) The V4 engine, the power...and THAT SOOOUND..wohoo :)....I think that I have fallen in love with her :)
She´s an old lady. It ´s an ´91 RC36, and has 85.000km on tacho, and the previous owner had a little accident with her.
As you can see on the photos - left fairing is gone, and there are some little scratches - but, what is important - engine, frame and forks are all good!
I´ve bought it for 1100 USD - so it was good choice for my VFR project - fairing conversion. :)


As I bought it:
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My plans for the future:

I would like to make the fairing converion, and I really like the modern CBR conversions. (cbr 600rr or cbr600f4i)
The thing is - I don ´t have very much free time, and also don ´t want to spend thousands on it, so I am looking for the easiest solution
I don ´t want to put bike into 1000 pieces and build it up, I just want to order new fairing, light, windshield, mirrors and put them on bike, with some little corections and little changes.
Do you think that this is possible?

Sure i know that there will be some work with fairing stays, fitting different light bulbs and so on - that are things I think I can manage. But I would realy like to keep original gauges and forks.

I like this converions:


Fotomoto´s 600rr conversion
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600rr 05
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Question1: Which of the following front fairing conversions would be the easiest to do? (The less complicated = the better)
a) cbr 600 f4i
b) cbr 600 rr 03-04
c) cbr 600 rr 05

Question2: Is it possible to do front fairing conversion, with the standard vfr750 forks?
a) cbr 600 f4i yes/no
b) cbr 600 rr 03-04 yes/no
c) cbr 600 rr 05 yes/no

Question3: Pictures above are all 4th gen´s VFR; What are the differences between the ´91 and ´95 model fairing stays?
...or anything else that would complicate the procees.

Question4: When I put the cbr fairings on, and keep original forks and handlebars, will I be able to turn full lock?
On the pictures without 929 forks it looks like the fairing is very close to handlebars so thats the thing I am afraid of.

I see that my post is getting way too big so to stay short:

I simply want to have new fairings on my bike, and don´t know which would work best with minimum effort.

Thank you very much for your opinions and advice.

MrBike

1. Congratulations on the purchase!

2. I have done a CBR conversion on my 3rd generation and there is LOTS to consider but before we get to into the details. I know you like the "look" of the CBR body work but if time is a consideration, have you considered buying replacement fairings from somewhere like Thurn ( http://www.thurn-mot...0036-gesamt.jpg ) where you can just bolt on the fairings?

A body conversion for a 3rd generation is a little different because some things like the coils are in a different location then a 4th gen. So there is more work involved.

If a CBR conversion is what you have your heart set on then jump in.

Hello VIFFER93,

Thanks for your reply :)

Yes, I was also thinking about the original vfr fairings. I keep that as the last solution.
If I realize that the CBR 600 conversion is more complicated than I can accept, I will buy original VFR fairing and just swap it.
But before that, I would like to observe all the "better looking" options - so the CBR 600 fairing conversion.

The time is priority, but not absolute. I mean: If the convrsion could be done within a week or two, and with original forks and handlebars, I would probably go for it.
But on the other hand, If I would have to replace forks, handlebars and some other parts, I would probably buy just original VFR fairings and replace them.

Could you please help me with these questons?
1. Which fairing did you use for your project? (it looks like 600rr 2003 racing fairing)
2. Is the fork and handlebars replacement a MUST? Or would it work also with standard forks and handlebars?
3. What other complications are there with 3rd gen 600rr conversion?
4. what about fitting on the frame and fairing stays?

Thank you very much for your time and advice! :)

MrBike

Hello VIFFER93,

Thanks for your reply :)

Yes, I was also thinking about the original vfr fairings. I keep that as the last solution.
If I realize that the CBR 600 conversion is more complicated than I can accept, I will buy original VFR fairing and just swap it.
But before that, I would like to observe all the "better looking" options - so the CBR 600 fairing conversion.

The time is priority, but not absolute. I mean: If the convrsion could be done within a week or two, and with original forks and handlebars, I would probably go for it.
But on the other hand, If I would have to replace forks, handlebars and some other parts, I would probably buy just original VFR fairings and replace them.

Could you please help me with these questons?
1. Which fairing did you use for your project? (it looks like 600rr 2003 racing fairing)
2. Is the fork and handlebars replacement a MUST? Or would it work also with standard forks and handlebars?
3. What other complications are there with 3rd gen 600rr conversion?
4. what about fitting on the frame and fairing stays?

Thank you very much for your time and advice! :)

MrBike

1. Which fairing did you use for your project? (it looks like 600rr 2003 racing fairing)

- I used 05' CBR fairings. On my conversion I did not modify the upper but I did "channel" the lower. For street use you could just cut the bottom out of the lower and fit around the bottom of the motor.

2. Is the fork and handlebars replacement a MUST? Or would it work also with standard forks and handlebars?
- The body conversion does not "require" the replacement of the forks but you might find that there are clearence issues with your instruments and controls

3. What other complications are there with 3rd gen 600rr conversion?
- There are lots of considerations, headlight, fairing stay, steering clearance, Instruments, coil locations, what are you fabrication skills and probably many more I have forgotten. I think it is safe to say that every conversion has its own unique challenges.

4. what about fitting on the frame and fairing stays?
- Use a 600rr fairing stay that I extended forward 1", cut and rewelded the stay "arms" and then redrilled the 3rd gen frame to fit properly. As far as fairing stays you will have a bigger challenge then I did because you are trying to keep this street legal. I had a lot more flexability because I was just building this for the track so headlight and instruments were not a factor. That fact included it is still not a quick project.

Also, If you are buying new fairings buy from a company that has a good reputation for quality parts. Inexpensive fairings very often need addition work like sanding and reinforcing mounting points. You will save yourself a lot of time by purchasing quality components.

I am not trying to talk you out of a conversion but I beilieve it will take much more then a week to complete, maybe others would disagree?

Hi and welcome to VFRD! :biggrin:

I think it looks damn good as is, why not just repair the left side and call it good? :cool:

BR

Baileyrock - thanks! ...well yeah it is quite good, but I want it to be a bit better than good :)) OR at least I�ll try

VIFFER93 - thanks for your information. I understand that it will probably won�t be as fast as I planned before, but never mind, I am into 600rr conversion anyway :)

Friend of mine just bought new set of moviestar fairings for his 2003 CBR 600RR and he offers these for sale, so it looks like I know where to start :)

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I know this is an old post, but what happened with the project? any pics?

whatsup guys?! just baught a 93 vfr 750! ^^^^^wheres this follow up to this project??^^^^^ tisk tisk. lol
I am about to start thinking about what fairing conversion i would like to do (dont worry im not one of those people that get my info, then bail on my forum, no offense to Mr. Bike haha)

first question - where should I post? should i create a new post? if so where? or should i just continue here? i need plenty activity from you guys..i ask alot of questions and post alot of pics
 

Glad to finally be part of the Honda game!

no? okedoke.

either way
I'm just going to go with cbr. They are everywhere and I found a set in my area for 150 bucks new. If you guys want me to post the build I will, but don't get mad that I'm stealing the sssa from it and putting it on my other bike lol so it will have a normal swing arm on it..the most distinctive part of the bike.
also, i have a front fairing / upper cowl whatever you would like to call it, for sale. its OEM and in perfect condition, primed, just needs paint. or I could get it painted for you for a few extra bucks. I know a guy, as long as its a basic color. Same goes for the seat, headlight assembly, cluster, and maybe something else, I'll look.

no? okedoke. either way

I'm just going to go with cbr. They are everywhere and I found a set in my area for 150 bucks new. If you guys want me to post the build I will, but don't get mad that I'm stealing the sssa from it and putting it on my other bike lol so it will have a normal swing arm on it..the most distinctive part of the bike.
also, i have a front fairing / upper cowl whatever you would like to call it, for sale. its OEM and in perfect condition, primed, just needs paint. or I could get it painted for you for a few extra bucks. I know a guy, as long as its a basic color. Same goes for the seat, headlight assembly, cluster, and maybe something else, I'll look.

Hi mate and welcome to VFRD. We need pics of that R7 look-alike.

Definitely get your own build topic up and running, plenty of guys and girls here will be interested in following your progress.

And I reckon a dual-sided swingarm conversion is a good idea if you are chasing performance, as you can take a LOT of weight off the bike that way - and it's unsprung weight, which is always good to trim off.

If you haven't already got your DSS, have a look at the late model R1 job, I was eyeballing one on ebay recently and it has the shock hole offset to the left, like the VFR one, and it has room for the rear header pipes as well:

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If the pivot point dimensions are reasonably close it might just work out nicely on a VFR.