So I hate to admit that my wrist is still poorly trained, but after a lot of frustration with my nothing, nothing, too much throttle on my bike I got a G2 throttle tamer. Wow, what a difference. I admit that I tightened the throttle cables a little when I installed it, but they were at the minimum spec already for play. But the bike is pretty much transformed. My ability to make fine throttle movements when transitioning from off throttle to low throttle has made turn in much easier to control. I used to have a heck of a time getting back on the throttle smoothly after slowing for a turn. No issues anymore, and that is really a confidence builder for a relative newb like me.
Installation was pretty easy. I had to pop the throttle cables off the cam on the throttle body to get them loose enough to take off the old throttle tube. Getting the length set with the combination of my LSL bars and Throttlemeister required a hacksaw, but that may have just been my issue. The G2 throttle tube was about 1/4" longer than the stock plastic tube, and that's about how much I removed to get the Throttlemeister to work. Not too hard for someone who already had all this stuff apart to install the LSL bars..
I guess I should have included that. It was $80 well spent for me. My frustration from trying to get back on the throttle smoothly was a confidence killer.
[image: View Post]Misspent Youth, on 03 May 2011 - 11:31 AM, said:
Their site doesn't show one for the 5th Gen. Anybody know if the 6th Gen throttle is different enough for this not to work on the 5th Gen?
If the handlebar diameter and throttle cam diameter are the same you should be fine. The length is easily modifiable with a hacksaw (trust me). From what I saw on another site, the 6th gen model is the ST1300 model. Typical honda parts bin...
These are very popular with the ST1300 crowd...the ST being so smooth otherwise bothers some with it's abrupt on-off throttle response in the first 1/2" of throttle.
Motion Pro has simular stuff for sport bikes, dunno if one is available or if you could adopt for VFR. But as a plus there several throttle cam profiles to try.
[image: View Post]Veefer800Canuck, on 03 May 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:
[image: View Post]Misspent Youth, on 03 May 2011 - 11:31 AM, said:
Their site doesn't show one for the 5th Gen. Anybody know if the 6th Gen throttle is different enough for this not to work on the 5th Gen?
6th gen throttle tube is: 53140-MCF-000
5th gen throttle tube: This item has been superceded to: 53140-MCF-000
So the short answer is YES, as far as I can tell.
That's great! Thanks for checking. Others have asked them to supply the 5th gen piece over the years and they never did anything about it. I wrote and asked a couple of times if it would work, but never got a response.
[image: View Post]2thdr, on 03 May 2011 - 06:07 PM, said:
These are very popular with the ST1300 crowd...the ST being so smooth otherwise bothers some with it's abrupt on-off throttle response in the first 1/2" of throttle.
[image: View Post]riverlife, on 04 May 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:
I'm curious by adding this wouldn't you need to rotate the throttle more for full throttle also? Not that is a real issue but just curious.
The cam profile starts smaller than the stock for less effect and more control then gets bigger than stock by the end to keep the 90� full throttle point.
[image: View Post]SereniTTy, on 04 May 2011 - 10:38 AM, said:
[image: View Post]riverlife, on 04 May 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:
I'm curious by adding this wouldn't you need to rotate the throttle more for full throttle also? Not that is a real issue but just curious.
The cam profile starts smaller than the stock for less effect and more control then gets bigger than stock by the end to keep the 90� full throttle point.
Ahh cool! Looks like a very viable solution... i'll have to put this on my wish list!
[image: View Post]Rice, on 04 May 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:
Things you people make me do...
I just ordered some.
Let's hope it helps with throttle control, since I spend most of my riding in stop-and-go traffic :dry:
Don't really have fueling issues once I get going though, but anything can be improved, I ss'pose.
Great! Give it a try and let us know how you like it. If you don't like it, I'll buy it off you for $10! :laughing6-hehe: Seriously though, this is the one thing I hate about the VFR!! Interesting solution. Please let us know if it works, it may make its way on my next Xmas wish list...
Might be worth a look. I do most of my commuting on a KLR and its throttle response is, shall we say, "different" than the VFR. Going back and forth between the bikes takes some adjustment.
I'm in the same boat. Ride the VFR all the time and I've gotten used to the throttle response.
Switch between my KLR and VFR and I'm very hamfisted. Guess I just get going a lot quicker on the VFR by grabbing the same amount of throttle. :laughing6-hehe:
[image: View Post]vfrjim2002, on 04 May 2011 - 04:36 PM, said:
Might be worth a look. I do most of my commuting on a KLR and its throttle response is, shall we say, "different" than the VFR. Going back and forth between the bikes takes some adjustment.
I definitely want one of these on my 5g, even after 10 years that off-on response is tough to deal with. I wonder if the Al tube would dissipate the heat from dual star grip heaters faster and make them ineffective?
Installed the TT over the weekend and the throttle is now noticeably smoother.
Other things done that may have contributed to improved smoothness are:
- Clean and polish the clip-on surface. It was caked with old dried up lube and slightly pitted in places.
- Adjust throttle cables.
[image: View Post]Rice, on 10 May 2011 - 08:57 AM, said:
My reply seems to have been lost, so here goes...
Installed the TT over the weekend and the throttle is now noticeably smoother.
Other things done that may have contributed to improved smoothness are:
- Clean and polish the clip-on surface. It was caked with old dried up lube and slightly pitted in places.
- Adjust throttle cables.
All and all, I think that it was worth the money.
I recommend.
Yeah, mine from yesterday was that I've had it on the bike for 2 weeks now and the improvement has been great. Much easier to be smooth with the throttle.
Great find. I'm also a newb on the VFR and have same issue. I was thinking I'd need to solve it with a PC and mapping based on what I had read so far. This is a good solution and I have Helibars on the bench waiting to go on - so now I can do it all at once.... Thanks! Ernie
[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on 04 May 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:
I definitely want one of these on my 5g, even after 10 years that off-on response is tough to deal with. I wonder if the Al tube would dissipate the heat from dual star grip heaters faster and make them ineffective?
It would certainly have an effect on this. You could just put a clutch grip heater on the throttle side, or you could try insulating between the aluminum and grip heater. (heat shrink or lots of electrical tape?) But in all likelyhood it would just soak up the heat until it was fully warm, and then you wouldn't notice any difference, other than taking longer to heat up and holding the heat a bit longer.
[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on 10 May 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:
[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on 04 May 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:
I definitely want one of these on my 5g, even after 10 years that off-on response is tough to deal with. I wonder if the Al tube would dissipate the heat from dual star grip heaters faster and make them ineffective?
It would certainly have an effect on this. You could just put a clutch grip heater on the throttle side, or you could try insulating between the aluminum and grip heater. (heat shrink or lots of electrical tape?) But in all likelyhood it would just soak up the heat until it was fully warm, and then you wouldn't notice any difference, other than taking longer to heat up and holding the heat a bit longer.
The inner and outer edge of the G2 is sleeved with a plastic liner that works as a bearing. So there is no metal-metal contact between the throttle tube and the handlebars. Admittedly that plastic is thin, but it does create an airgap between the G2 and the handlebars.
[image: View Post]SereniTTy, on 10 May 2011 - 10:20 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Rice, on 10 May 2011 - 08:57 AM, said:
My reply seems to have been lost, so here goes...
Installed the TT over the weekend and the throttle is now noticeably smoother.
Other things done that may have contributed to improved smoothness are:
- Clean and polish the clip-on surface. It was caked with old dried up lube and slightly pitted in places.
- Adjust throttle cables.
All and all, I think that it was worth the money.
I recommend.
Yeah, mine from yesterday was that I've had it on the bike for 2 weeks now and the improvement has been great. Much easier to be smooth with the throttle.
No added tension the throttle cable I hope !!!!!!!!!!
I had to peel my grip heater off the old tube. I didn't install the heater and so don't know what was used to stick it on the plastic grip. What adhesive can I use to stick it on the aluminum grip that will allow the heater to function?
[image: View Post]Misspent Youth, on 14 May 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:
I had to peel my grip heater off the old tube. I didn't install the heater and so don't know what was used to stick it on the plastic grip. What adhesive can I use to stick it on the aluminum grip that will allow the heater to function?
I've used a 2 part general purpose spray adhesive to reinstall grip heaters. Something like this but any similar product should work.
[image: View Post]vfrcapn, on 15 May 2011 - 11:01 AM, said:
[image: View Post]Misspent Youth, on 14 May 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:
I had to peel my grip heater off the old tube. I didn't install the heater and so don't know what was used to stick it on the plastic grip. What adhesive can I use to stick it on the aluminum grip that will allow the heater to function?
I've used a 2 part general purpose spray adhesive to reinstall grip heaters. Something like this but any similar product should work.
I reinstalled heater on aluminum with 3M spray adhesive.
Heat works just fine. The aluminum tube is very thin and there is no metal to metal contact with the clip-on.
Day and Night. I feel like I bought a new bike for $90. Very dramatic low-speed on/off improvement. Shifting's improved (smoother because of reduced throttle input) and even simple stuff like moving off of a stoplight in stop/go traffic, making left turn, etc., is now "normal," rather than an "adventure." Practiced a few turns that gave me trouble before and now just accelerate off w/o issue. No affiliation with the seller, in fact I'm pissed they didn't answer my multiple emails years ago when I asked about a model for the 5th Gen (mine), as I'd have had a better VFR experience.
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