I just asked for an oil change for my 1st (600 mi) service, since that's what the owner's manual indicates. Dealer wanted to adjust valves and change out other fluids. I said no, but now I'm wondering-- should I have done any service in addition to the oil change? Comments?
Dealer recommending additional service
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At this point it would be normal to re-torque bolts, tighten head bearings and check a few other things, but definitely not adjust your valves. That comes much much later.
If your dealer is truly recommending fluid changes and valve adjustment at 600 miles they are not to be trusted and you shouldnèt bring it there anymore.
If your dealer is truly recommending fluid changes and valve adjustment at 600 miles they are not to be trusted and you shouldnèt bring it there anymore.
How much did they want to charge?
I'm always skeptical of anything a dealer says, be it in the showroom or in the service bay. Seems fishy to me.
I'm always skeptical of anything a dealer says, be it in the showroom or in the service bay. Seems fishy to me.
[image: View Post]phobe, on 11 July 2011 - 09:42 PM, said:
If your dealer is truly recommending fluid changes and valve adjustment at 600 miles they are not to be trusted and you shouldn�t bring it there anymore.+1. That they would so obviously try and fleece you on your first service visit is a pretty strong argument for going elsewhere.
Run away! Dealer is fishing for money........
You can change your own oil - Its not hard.
You can change your own oil - Its not hard.
Unless your dealer offered to "adjust fluid levels" and not valves you should never trust them!
if they recommend anything above the Honda manual they are full of crap!
if they recommend anything above the Honda manual they are full of crap!
Um yeah, +13 or whatever.
And you can do the oilchanges yourself, as long as you keep the reciepts and some sort of service log to show the work was done.
According to the Magnussen-Moss warranty act, manufacturers and dealers cannot make the honoring of warranties contingent upon dealer-only regular servicing, unless such a servicing plan is offered for free as part of the vehicle's original purchase.
The only time any of my bikes have graced the inside of a dealership in the last, oh, 27 years, has been for a tire change. And even then, 90% of the time, I just bring in the loose wheels.
And you can do the oilchanges yourself, as long as you keep the reciepts and some sort of service log to show the work was done.
According to the Magnussen-Moss warranty act, manufacturers and dealers cannot make the honoring of warranties contingent upon dealer-only regular servicing, unless such a servicing plan is offered for free as part of the vehicle's original purchase.
The only time any of my bikes have graced the inside of a dealership in the last, oh, 27 years, has been for a tire change. And even then, 90% of the time, I just bring in the loose wheels.
Wow fluid changes every 600 miles.. I would getting my fluid changed every month. RUN away fast.. its a money grab. My buddy has a 2010 Stateline by honda which requires valve adjustment at 6000 miles never heard of 600miles. I would be interested in how much they were going to charge?
It's not uncommon for some motorcycle make/models to require a valve lash inspection/adjustment at the first service. My BMW actually required the cylinder heads to be retightened after the first 600 miles (plus lash adjustment and fluid changes). Your dealer may simply not be familiar with the 600-mile service details on this specific bike as many have never serviced a VFR1200 before.
Just clarify with them exactly what you want done and there should be no problem. Take the owner's manual with you and show them the items called out at 600-miles (or 1000km). I recently had this service done and the dealer included a copy of the page from the service manual that showed all the checklist items to cover at the 1st service.
my 2-cents...
Just clarify with them exactly what you want done and there should be no problem. Take the owner's manual with you and show them the items called out at 600-miles (or 1000km). I recently had this service done and the dealer included a copy of the page from the service manual that showed all the checklist items to cover at the 1st service.
my 2-cents...
When I bought my ST1100 in 1992, I checked the valves after about 300 miles just to get familiar and because it was easy to do in that everything hangs out and is accessible.
One of the exhaust valves was a full .003 too loose over max specs. I got a new shim and fixed it fast. I checked it again 500 miles later and it stayed the same as when I put the new shim in.
It just shows to go you that even the best of the best can falter on occasion. Maybe the bike was made on a Monday after a weekend of too much Sakai, who knows.
That cost me about nothing but if a dealer is charging big bucks to check valves at 600 miles, don't do it, it is a money making scheme.
One of the exhaust valves was a full .003 too loose over max specs. I got a new shim and fixed it fast. I checked it again 500 miles later and it stayed the same as when I put the new shim in.
It just shows to go you that even the best of the best can falter on occasion. Maybe the bike was made on a Monday after a weekend of too much Sakai, who knows.
That cost me about nothing but if a dealer is charging big bucks to check valves at 600 miles, don't do it, it is a money making scheme.
agreed to everything above, its a honda = bullet proof!
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