An offroader it 'aint, and suspension adustment is lame, but they love the engine and say it kicks butt over the power delivery from the 6th-gen VFR. Apparently the only differences are intake stacks and some other minor tweaks. Redline is 12,000rpm!
Oh, and the panniers are from the VFR1200. Talk about a "bit o' this and a bit o' that"!!
I don't think the X-Cross engine kicks the VTEC's butt, but the VTEC actions is definitely transparent; I wish I could have that on my bike. Mine (which is synchronized, PAIR disabled but still missing O2 sensor disablers) is pretty good but when you spend time around 7000 rpm it can feel like it's cutting in and out. Other than that the Crossrunner seems to have a bit more torque below 6000rpm but that's all. It's a fun bike, but the main reason for that is the dual-purpose-ish seating. It is so much easier to watch the traffic that way, so you spend less effort at going fast. IMO, this bike is not for VFR fans but new converts. I still think it looks too soft, I wish it looked more agressive...
It is truly amazing what improvements can be made to an existing engine with just some subtle plumbing tweaks and the benefits of the latest improvements to engine management. Riding the Crossrunner back to back with the VFR800 would have you thinking the VFR had a clogged air-filter or desperately in need of a tune.
^^This^^
I wonder if the "subtle plumbing tweaks and the benefits of the latest improvements to engine management" can be easily plugged into the 6th gen...
Anyone with disposable income want to be the first to try this?
[image: View Post]Rice, on 18 July 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:
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It is truly amazing what improvements can be made to an existing engine with just some subtle plumbing tweaks and the benefits of the latest improvements to engine management. Riding the Crossrunner back to back with the VFR800 would have you thinking the VFR had a clogged air-filter or desperately in need of a tune.
^^This^^
I wonder if the "subtle plumbing tweaks and the benefits of the latest improvements to engine management" can be easily plugged into the 6th gen...
Anyone with disposable income want to be the first to try this?
Sure, if I end up moving to Singapore I won't be able to take ANY of my bikes and will "have" to buy something there. Nothing like a ten-year engine production run to iron out any little problems. Now, if only the Crossrunner weren't such a "double-bagger"... :biggrin:
no doubt a Crossrunner could get an experienced rider to some very out of the way places. But if that�s your end game, I suggest you stop reading here and go peruse a BMW (GS), Yamaha (Super Tenere), Suzuki (V-Strom) or Triumph (Tiger 800XC) catalogue, as these manufacturers have machines that will fulfill that more adventurous role much better.
Uhm, isn't that every bike in the same class this thing was built to run with?
Don't know about the Super Tenere but the Tiger 800XC does come stock with a more of an off road setup as far as tires. But knowing people with V-Stroms and GSs, I think the Crossrunner could be a strong competitor to them.
But the biggest issue is as usual with Honda is the damn price..... $14,590au
I tried to look up other bikes from downunder, problem is Suzuki was the only one that listed prices on their website, the other wanted me to contact my local dealer. The V-Strom 1000 is $12,590 a full 2000 below the Honda.
Looks like Honda may have done it again and priced their product at the high end of the scale. When are they going to wake up and open their eyes to the fact, most people are not willing to pay extra for the name Honda anymore. That might work for BMW and Harley now adays. Because people that buy them, still buy for the name, but sorry Honda, you are really just another Japanese motorcycle manufactor. You make good stuff but so do the others, and they seem to do it at a lower cost.
NOPe 6thgen redline is 12,500 rpm. They moved the power band lower in the crossrunner and gave up some peak horse, to make it more off road freindly motor
[image: View Post]Rice, on 18 July 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:
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It is truly amazing what improvements can be made to an existing engine with just some subtle plumbing tweaks and the benefits of the latest improvements to engine management. Riding the Crossrunner back to back with the VFR800 would have you thinking the VFR had a clogged air-filter or desperately in need of a tune.
^^This^^
I wonder if the "subtle plumbing tweaks and the benefits of the latest improvements to engine management" can be easily plugged into the 6th gen...
Anyone with disposable income want to be the first to try this?
Mate, the day the parts catalog is available I will be trawling it for data.
If the camshafts are not different, I'm thinking it may be nothing more than different length intake stacks. And if they haven't changed the throttle bodies, those stacks may well fit onto a 6th-gen VFR. After that, the only other likely change will be fuelling, which you can do with a Power commander. I'd sacrifice a bit of top end for more midrange poke, that's for sure.
The exhuast is different for a start, it is a 4-2-1
On the VFR800 1 front exhaust is linked to a rear one, on the VFR800X the 2 front exhaust are merged, as are the rear 2.
On the VFR800X it ends up in a single catalytic convertor, vs the VFR800 to 2.
this shold give extra torque in low/mid rev range
The inlet tracts on the X are 20mm longer and are 6.5mm narrower at the underside.
Rest is modification to VTEC and FI
Dutch Bike mag learned that Honda took 2 main styling directions...... a jet ski and -MEEP MEEP- Roadrunner...... If not for trademark rights, the bike would be called Roadrunner.... MEEP MEEP.
they question if the market is really asking for this kind of x-over bike, full of compromises, especially at a price of Eur 12,499 or $16,500....
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brakes
unusual design/individual looks
V4-roar
Easu to manouvre
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Gap between instrument panel (high up) and tank/steering gives ugly view on cables, horn and onther parts
as speeds increase, steering resonse slows; it requires effort to get the bike at an angle
Throttle response in 1st 2nd gear is a bit jerky (on-off)
And oh! They didnot only follow the multilayer bodywork technique from the Veefalo, centre stand is an extra Eur 345.......
side+top cases Eur 1,895 HOPPA!!!!!!!!! :goofy:
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