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#2

let the modding commence

bought so far:

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#3

On the hunt for some stock CBR1000RR wheels in gold......

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#4

Congratulations on finding such a tidy VTR, Rob. It looks fantastic as is, but I can see it has an awesome future in store.

SP1 or SP2? I've read good arguments in favour of each. A Brit mag recently called them under appreciated classics that will only rise in value. 

Terrific choice of wheels, btw.

This Sport Rider article might give a few more ideas, though you've no doubt done massive research already:

http://www.sportrider.com/honda-rc51-rvt1000r-great-sportbikes-past

#5
3 minutes ago, Lorne

Congratulations on finding such a tidy VTR, Rob. It looks fantastic as is, but I can see it has an awesome future in store.

SP1 or SP2? I've read good arguments in favour of each. A Brit mag recently called them under appreciated classics that will only rise in value. 

Terrific choice of wheels, btw.

Thanks Lorne, it's a 2001 SP1

actual odometer reading.

IT STILL HAS THE ORIGINAL REAR TIRE FROM 2001! Front is brand new, 0 miles, but 10 years old!

(yes, I'm getting new tires)

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#7

Great find!   :fing02: Cant wait to follow this mod thread.... 

#8

Bought a rear Pitbull and front Woodcraft stand for the RC, and a set of swingarm spools.

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#9

Congrats from a fellow VTR rider!

Stick to this forum, the RC51 one cannot stand it its shadow by a mile or 50...

#10

Dont worry Dutchy, I'm not leaving. 

I'll post up as I do stuff to the RC

looking into some Woodcraft clipons with a 2" rise

#11

Very cool Rob, SP1 or SP2? Friend of mine just had his stolen, was in a store at the mall less than 15 minutes-figures somebody targeted him because he just got done doing a nice refresh to it. 

#12

Welcome to the VFR/RC51 Club! ...or is it VTR? RVT? SP-1? SP-2? Anyway, sporting Honda v-twin, good match to the v-four.

Let us know how the higher clip-ons work out, looking into that myself.

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#13
2 hours ago, rangemaster

Very cool Rob, SP1 or SP2? Friend of mine just had his stolen, was in a store at the mall less than 15 minutes-figures somebody targeted him because he just got done doing a nice refresh to it. 

Sp1

#14

Ya know since you've put a RC51 front end on your VFR I think its required that you put a VFR swing arm on your RC51. 

#15

Congrats Rob! Enjoy!

#16

Mounted the exhaust the other day. 

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#17

Installed the dubious Chinese levers

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#18

Modded the license plate mount and light:

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#19

Good on you for figuring a way to tidy the license plate lamp/mount. On my Gen5 & VTR1000F I just removed and put 'em on a shelf.

Did you bolt the plate directly to the mudguard? If so, a sheet of rubber (truck tire inner tube, for eg.) as a backing dampens vibration and should prevent the plate from cracking.

#20
Dutchy, 5/7/2017 at 0:35 AM

Congrats from a fellow VTR rider!

Stick to this forum, the RC51 one cannot stand it its shadow by a mile or 50...

LOL. There are some cool guys on the RC forums but some are just a bummer. Congrats on the RC51. Just sold mine yesterday. 

Fantastic motor brakes and chassis. Can't go wrong.

#21

Rob,

You set the bar so high with the mods on the gen 5, you'll have a challenge to top your own work!  Also, glad (and not surprised) to see you stayed in the GDC family!   Looking forward to following this.   

#22
3 hours ago, Cogswell

Rob,

You set the bar so high with the mods on the gen 5, you'll have a challenge to top your own work!  Also, glad (and not surprised) to see you stayed in the GDC family!   Looking forward to following this.   

Thanks Curry! 

Hey are you coming on all or part of the ride that Derek is organizing to Troutdale in July? 

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Installed some smokey turnsignal as well, front and rear. IMG_6946.PNG

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#24

Scorpions are on, they sound wonderful. 

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#25

Now I have to wait for my bike stands so I can remove my wheels and get new tires mounted. (Back tire is 16 years old!)

Also dreading removing the fuel tank, cleaning and sealing it. Ugh. 

After all that, I need an insurance inspection. 

Oh, and probably fork seals too. 

#26

Great choice Rob! One of those rare motorcycles where form really does follow function.

#27
9 hours ago, Veefer800Canuck

Thanks Curry! 

Hey are you coming on all or part of the ride that Derek is organizing to Troutdale in July? 

Rob - I wish I could.   Some family health issues (not mine) have me off the bike - it's parked for the summer.  :(   I'll check on the dates - if the they work, I might be able to sneak out to Troutdale for evening festivities.  It would be great to see everyone.  Curry

#28

Got some front and rear stands for the RC

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#29

The rescue project is ramping up, as time allows.

instead of mowing my lawn, I tore the RC apart. 

Wheels off, to be powdercoated gold, and forks off for new seals. 

The gold wheels pic is just for reference, that's the shade I'm shooting for. 

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#30

Nice one Rob... welcome to dual GDC ownership.

Got a leaky tank?

#31
2 hours ago, Vee-Ef-Ar

Nice one Rob... welcome to dual GDC ownership.

Got a leaky tank?

Not leaky no, rusty, yes 

#32

Nicely done Rob!!!  That last pic of the 2 of you, looks like it's got just as big a sh#t eating grin, like a newly adopted puppy.

We all know the work you do will be meticulous.

Love that sound.  Looking forward to watching the progression.

#34
Veefer800Canuck, 6/10/2017 at 11:08 PM

The rescue project is ramping up, as time allows.

instead of mowing my lawn, I tore the RC apart. 

I'm glad that you've got your priorities straight!   :biggrin:

#35
17 hours ago, didit

Nicely done Rob!!!  That last pic of the 2 of you, looks like it's got just as big a sh#t eating grin, like a newly adopted puppy.

We all know the work you do will be meticulous.

Love that sound.  Looking forward to watching the progression.

Thanks Tony! 

#36
13 hours ago, Auspanglish

Off topic I guess but I just saw this arvo someone selling on Aliexpress thinks that handsome mug will boost sales...

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Haha, I've seen this one before. Dang Chinese bodywork sellers. 

I havent gotten a single Yuan out of them yet! 

#37

If only it was as easy as buying body parts!


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#38
Sweeper, 2017-06-13 at 6:07 AM

If only it was as easy as buying body parts!


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You mean like kidneys and stuff? 

LOL

#39

Dubious Chinese windscreen installed. 

Fit perfect, first try! 

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#40

Is there a clutch cover mod coming this fall?  Looks Great Robbie not a bit jealous.

#41
Axel_7, 2017-06-14 at 8:52 AM

Is there a clutch cover mod coming this fall?  Looks Great Robbie not a bit jealous.

Clutch cover mod would be tough. Stock cover is magnesium, so can't be modded by seb. 

Id have to buy an aftermarket racing cover in aluminum, and have seb mod that. 

Would be a $500 touch by the time I'm done. Ouch! 

#42
Axel_7, 2017-06-14 at 8:52 AM

Is there a clutch cover mod coming this fall?  Looks Great Robbie not a bit jealous.

Clutch cover mod would be tough. Stock cover is magnesium, so can't be modded by seb. 

Id have to buy an aftermarket racing cover in aluminum, and have seb mod that. 

Would be a $500 touch by the time I'm done. Ouch! 

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#43

Rob, keep the mag clutch cover. Consider the scuffing as patina - think what the does to the value of a Louis IV chair  :tongue:

#44
Lorne, 2017-06-17 at 3:02 PM

Rob, keep the mag clutch cover. Consider the scuffing as patina - think what the does to the value of a Louis IV chair  :tongue:

Oh that was a random internet pic. 

Mine is not scuffed. 

#45

There's gold in them thar Hills! 

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#47

Wheel bearings have been cleaned and repacked with fresh grease. 

RC51 heads over on FB were all like: Just buy new bearings man!

And I was like: Naw, I'm good, thanks. 

$7 worth of grease and a little time and they're mint! 

With only 4,000 miles, they'd better be! 

New tires Friday!!! 

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#48

Time to put some MILES on her.......

we expect to see loadsa pictures, for instance:

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and yes, I do like chicken :goofy:

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Looks good, are you keeping those Indicators? is there any local legislation that prevents you using surface mounted indicators.. they stick out like my brothers ears! :goofy:

#50
Woodie, 2017-07-06 at 5:38 AM

Looks good, are you keeping those Indicators? is there any local legislation that prevents you using surface mounted indicators.. they stick out like my brothers ears! :goofy:

I don't like the flushmounts. 

We're invisible to cars as-is!!!

#51

+1

One of the 1st things I did to mine was getting rid of the flush ones, back to OEM.

An OEM tail will cross the Atlantic so I can fit an OEM rearlight (aka breadbox) and OEM indicators.

#52
Veefer800Canuck, 7/5/2017 at 10:16 AM

Wheel bearings have been cleaned and repacked with fresh grease. 

RC51 heads over on FB were all like: Just buy new bearings man!

And I was like: Naw, I'm good, thanks. 

$7 worth of grease and a little time and they're mint! 

With only 4,000 miles, they'd better be! 

New tires Friday!!! 

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Well, 4.000mi plus whatever you did to get them out... Bearings are usually installed using the outer race, which puts no stress on the balls and inner race.  But bearings are usually removed by exerting force on the inner race, which does.

Ciao,

#53
Veefer800Canuck, ‎08‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 8:02 PM

I don't like the flushmounts. 

We're invisible to cars as-is!!!

Fair point. Although I like them as they show up from the sides as well as from the front.

#54
Veefer800Canuck, ‎08‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 8:02 PM

I don't like the flushmounts. 

We're invisible to cars as-is!!!

The one thing has worked biggest for being seen, for me, has been LED lights, especially the aux LEDs I fitted to the Crossrunner.

I know aux lights probably wouldn't work so well on an RC51, but fitting replacement headlight bulbs, whether bi-xenon or LED, would be worth considering imo, if you're not already doing that.

Just a thought.....beautiful bike btw. :beer:

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Twin yellow headlights, Led dlrl and running lights

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Dayglo orange helmet and suit

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One oncoming car turning left despite of all this....

Still ended terminally for redslut...

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Be CAREFUL out there! (and lucky...)

#56

One other thing to try...

(and RC51 content  :cheerleader: )

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#57
44 minutes ago, Dutchy

One other thing to try...

(and RC51 content  :cheerleader: )

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EYEBROWS!!! 

#59

Dutchy that picture gives me the willys of Mrs redslut--is there a story behind that name?


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#60

I'd let anyone who wanted, ride her... Even Timmythecop. He found her nicely loose... :-)

#62

This is beautiful.   About the only advantage I can see to the exhaust under the tail vfr is if you wanted to stealth a turbo..  The riser pipe would feed the turbo and the turbo would exhaust under the seat.   You could probably even keep the cats but to maintain the temperature up to the turbo you would probably want the exhaust ceramic coated.   This is not a busa beater but just small quick spooling turbo.

#63

Hoverbike has legs!!!

Now to clean the chain, change the front sprocket (-1 tooth), install the speedohealer, and clean the dreadedrusty fuel tank. 

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#65

Ruh roh, hope everything downstream of the tank is ok - primarily the injectors.

Any thoughts n how the tank got in such a state?

#66
20 hours ago, Lorne

Ruh roh, hope everything downstream of the tank is ok - primarily the injectors.

Any thoughts n how the tank got in such a state?

10 years of being parked with ethanol fuel in the tank. 

The bike ran PERFECTLY before I took the tank off, started immediately, revved perfectly, idles perfectly, etc. 

I had ridden it home like 10km when I bought it and it pulled like a freight train. 

I removed rhe FPR and blew out the entire fuel rail and HP supply hose with compressed air. NO RUST came out. None. 

I also blew the FPR clean, and there was only a speck or two of soft debris in there. 

OE fuel filter must have worked! 

Guess which of the two fuel pumps I'm putting back in?? 

#67

It finally happened! I powdercoated the wheels at work, and they came out nice. All new wheel bearings, seals, brake rotors and tires. I know it's not pristine, but it has all the tasty bits I wanted. Having so much fun riding it, I don't know if I will go back to the clip-ons.............just have a few pieces of bodywork, and new headlights to replace the old.

the RC Tuono!

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SPAL pusher fan mod. 

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#69

Veefer800Canuck

What SPAL fan model number did you use and does it cover the same area as the oem fan? I tried to fit a SPAL fan on the right hand radiator but struggled to get it to fit due to the thickness of the fan motor. I can see from the photo that you have made an alumium frame to mount it? Nice work.

#70
23 hours ago, Marooncobra

Veefer800Canuck

What SPAL fan model number did you use and does it cover the same area as the oem fan? I tried to fit a SPAL fan on the right hand radiator but struggled to get it to fit due to the thickness of the fan motor. I can see from the photo that you have made an alumium frame to mount it? Nice work.

The mounting bracket was made by a fellow RC51 owner who did a limited run of them. The fan slightly covers the end tank of the rad, but not much. It had to, to clear the frame spar. 

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#71

Managed to blast the fuel tank innards at the car wash to get most of the loose rusty scale out. 

Bemoeve it or not, the pic is an improvement over what was before!!!

Dried it and now trying to find time to do the tank cleaning and coating kit. 

Hurt my right arm a bit loading furniture, so it might be a bit before I can tackle the tank. 

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#72

Won’t be finishing the RC51  in time for winter. No ride for me. 

All I had to do was clean and coat the rusty fuel tank (already taken off and washed/aired out) and install/size the new drive chain. 

Sucks. 

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Heal up well!!!   

Good thing you still have your left hand eh?  :goofy:

#74

Very sorry to hear that, Rob.

A couple years ago, while parking his KTM 990 it fell away from him. When he tried to hold it he ended up tearing the tendon of his right bicep. Bad news: he missed a couple months of riding season. Good news: complete recovery.

Ps. he was older than you  ?

#75
3 hours ago, Lorne

Ps. he was older than you  ?

Is that even possible?  :tongue:

#76

Thanks guys. Surgery went well. 

I should be right as rain by January. 

#77

- Heel up well Rob.. - Can you drink beer left handed?  :beer:

#78
5 hours ago, mello dude

- Heel up well Rob.. - Can you drink beer left handed?  :beer:

Oh yeah, had a nice cold Hoegaarden yesterday. Good stuff. ?

#79

Stitches out yesterday 

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#80

Rode one for you yesterday...

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#81

We should start a RVT1000R owners thread to share ideas.  This forum get more traffic then RC51forums.com.

Heal up Veefer!

#82

Thanks guys

first day back to work

light duties

#83
xpcgamer, 10/19/2017 at 2:07 AM

We should start a RVT1000R owners thread to share ideas.  This forum get more traffic then RC51forums.com.

Heal up Veefer!

We all you get are adds from some rider gear site, dinner suggestions and the rare real post.....   I joined that forum, but me still hanging out here does indicate something....

You can take the VFR from the man, but not the man from VFR

#84

I can't help myself, 

Is that man at honda now :wink:  or is he missing 

#85

Still here! 

Bike Is still not rideable. 

Arm is is still healing, winter is in full swing. 

Will update when something changes. 

New chain install and fuel fuel tank coating are the only two items left to make it run. 

#86

Glad to read you are healing well and keeping your chin up.

Sweet dreams

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#87

Sooo, still the dead of winter in Canuckistan. My arm is all better now. 

Compiled a a list of mods and mtnce to the bike thus far.

I think I have everything listed???

I’ve done:

-Fork seals and oil

-Powder coat wheels (gold) and all new bearings

-90’ billet valve stems (black)

-New Pilot Power 3’s (190/55 rear)

-16/44 gearing, new chain

-Speedohealer

-New billet brake/clutch levers

-Disassemble and clean all brake/clutch hydraulics internally

-Deglaze brake pads and rotors

-New fuel tank , blow out entire fuel system with compressed air

-New fuel pump/filter module

-Billet QR fuel cap (black)

-Coolant flush/fill

-New battery

-New spark plugs

-Oil and filter change

-Smoked turnsignals and smoked LED taillight

-Double bubble windscreen

-SPAL pusher fan mod/bracket

-DHC Carbon tank protector

-DHC Carbon hugger

-Sargent seat

-PAIR removal

-De-flapper mod

-Obtained OEM toolkit (was missing)

-Rear fender trim and license plate light relocate/bracket removal

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#88
9 hours ago, Veefer800Canuck

-New Pilot Power 3’s 

Rob, curious if you considered the newer Power RS. I got a set for my VTec last spring and like them a lot. The lack of tread grooves was disconcerting but not noticeable even on damp roads. Steering was a little heavier than remembered with PP3 or 2CT, I assume due to the rounder front profile. Lifespan looks to be better - 7300 km so far (most during last years trek to Monterey).

#89
9 minutes ago, Lorne

Rob, curious if you considered the newer Power RS. I got a set for my VTec last spring and like them a lot. The lack of tread grooves was disconcerting but not noticeable even on damp roads. Steering was a little heavier than remembered with PP3 or 2CT, I assume due to the rounder front profile. Lifespan looks to be better - 7300 km so far (most during last years trek to Monterey).

No I had not considered using those. 

I have 0 miles on the PP3’s so I can’t comment. 

#90
MBrane, 5/7/2017 at 5:05 PM

Ya know since you've put a RC51 front end on your VFR I think its required that you put a VFR swing arm on your RC51. 

I have a sixth gen swingarm sitting right here...

#91
digitallyhip, 2018-02-15 at 4:50 PM

I have a sixth gen swingarm sitting right here...

Thanks but I’m good!!! LOL

#92

PAIR valve elimination, totally removed all PAIR components, not just plugged off. 

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#93

So while I had the airbox off to do the PAIR removal, I thought I’d go the extra mile and pull the injectors, due to the fact that my fuel system was so gacked up from being parked for 10 years by the PO. (BADLY rusted fuel tank)

Three injectors came out fine, but the rear injector on the front cylinder left some crumbly black debris on the throttle body when it came off. 

Looking closely at the injector, what remained of the OEM bottom seal was destroyed, and it looks like someone put a generic O-ring on there which is smaller than the others, also, the remaining 3 appear to be square in profile and not round. 

Boy am I glad I removed all of this stuff and checked!!!

Next stop: professional injector cleaning and new seals.

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Flapper valve actuator blanking plate inbound! 

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#95

Fuel injectors are being returned from RC fuel injection after being serviced. 

Some of you who who are old, like me, will remember Russ Collins the drag racer. 

Well, he’s passed now, but his company lives on. 

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#96
53 minutes ago, Veefer800Canuck

Fuel injectors are being returned from RC fuel injection after being serviced. 

Some of you who who are old, like me, will remember Russ Collins the drag racer. 

Well, he’s passed now, but his company lives on. 

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Interesting story.  It must have been quite a feat of engineering to tie those 3 motors together and run all the power and torque through a gearbox that could take it. 

RC did a great job for me on both my bikes and cars.  I'd definitely use them again.

#97

Just watched the "crappy video" and it looks like the bike is coming along nicely! 

Also, if you turn it up, I swear I can hear Pink Floyd playing in the background - good stuff!

I am also realizing with the bad case of MBD I have, I all of a sudden cannot afford to upgrade my bikes, as I am just having enough free time and money to maintain all of them.....

#98

Got the fuel injectors back and reassembled everything. 

Waiting on my fuel tank from Japan now, it’s the last thing I need. Been 3 months on backorder. 

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#99
7 hours ago, Veefer800Canuck

Got the fuel injectors back and reassembled everything. 

Waiting on my fuel tank from Japan now, it’s the last thing I need. Been 3 months on backorder

Replacing the crusty original tank, eh? Is that because you didn't trust that the interior corrosion could be sorted, or did you find a tidy replacement for a fair price?

#100
11 hours ago, Lorne

Replacing the crusty original tank, eh? Is that because you didn't trust that the interior corrosion could be sorted, or did you find a tidy replacement for a fair price?

Lorne, I’m trying to clean the tank, I did a vinegar and nuts/bolts wash and shake, over the course of a week, changing the vinegar out every 2 days. 

I rinsed the tank probably 12x with water after that and I’ve gotten the majority of the rust out. 

Im going to use the tank coating kit I got with the bike next, using all 3 steps now that the tank is 97% rust free. 

The brand new OEM tank is coming from Japan, I just don’t know when. 

Once the new tank arrives, I’ll be selling the old one off to help offset the cost. 

#101

A week’s worth of vinegar, a handful of loose nuts and bolts and shake shake shake. 

Next step is the 3-part tank cleaning/etching/sealant kit which will enable me to eBay the used tank and offset the cost of the brand new one I’m getting from partzilla.

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#103
7 hours ago, Auspanglish

Holy Guano Batman!!

Yep, it was a huge mess. 

#104

Dammit, my new fuel tank won’t be here until mid May.

Ordered dec 27th

Hope it’s sooner!!! 

#105

How to make 17 year old brake lines disappear. 

I got carbon look/black banjos

Front/rear and clutch lines

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#106

"Back in black"   :goofy:

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#107
4 hours ago, Dutchy

"Back in black"   :goofy:

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Niceeeeeeee!!!! 

#108

Core Moto is good stuff, use them for all my custom projects. Love the dished head banjos they supply. They are fast too. 

#109
13 hours ago, SEBSPEED

Core Moto is good stuff, use them for all my custom projects. Love the dished head banjos they supply. They are fast too. 

Yeah I figured the old rubber lines deserved a vacation. 

#110

Rob how difficult do you find it to install all new lines and get the system filled and bled completely of all air? Do you use a motorized vacuum?

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#111
2thdr, 2018-04-09 at 3:02 PM

Rob how difficult do you find it to install all new lines and get the system filled and bled completely of all air? Do you use a motorized vacuum?

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So far I’ve drained and flushed the RC’s brakes twice

once as PM and the brakes were still squidgy feeling so I then dismantled and cleaned the whole system and bled them again

THEN I decided to do new lines so I get to do it a 3rd time

im an idiot!!! Haha

actually  its really easy, just takes time and  care to get all the air out

no abs or lbs so it’s much simpler! 

#112

May 23 for the new fuel tank

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#113

Ins'Allah.............

This millner has been waiting since 1764.....  :goofy:

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#114
2thdr, ‎09‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 10:02 PM

Rob how difficult do you find it to install all new lines and get the system filled and bled completely of all air? Do you use a motorized vacuum?

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I replaced them on my 6th Gen and I'm no spanner monkey so if I can do it, anyone can. As has been said, take your time and it's logical and doable. I use the 6th Gen bleeding guide from this site to help me.

#115

My VF, like the RC, doesnot have linked brakes.

So putting the new lines on was doable, even for a certified internal auditor....

I have Speedbleeders so did the following (on the brake and clutch) as I donot have a vacuum thingie

-attach drain tube

-open valve 1/8th

-pull lever and tie a rubber band around it

-only a small amount of fluid comes out, remove the Speedbleeder and put an OEM one in.

-Remove the banjo from the caliper/slave and put in a jar

-undo the banjo at the top (put a rag around the area). As you still have the lever compressed the reservoir will not drain itself.

-The line will empty itself and then you remove it. Carefull not to spill any drops...

-Fit the new line with the banjo/o rings supplied

-Attach the drain tube and put the end of the tube in a jar with (the old) fluid, open the oem valve

-now you pump the lever multiple times till the fluid level starts to drop and you keep topping up.

-once you see fresh fluid coming out, you once more compress the lever and affic with a rubber band.

-replace the OEM valve with the speedbleeder

-the reason for this is that the air in an empty line will not compress the little spring/ball inside a speedbleeder

-you now complete the process with the speedbleeders till all air is out

-leave the bike overnight with the levers compressed with a rubber band

#116

It Is not easy to get fluid through a dry system with the linked brakes. I have never had a shop do any work on my bike in the 18 years I've owned it that is the one i would reconsider, if it had an experienced mechanic on staff, It is a mother-f-er. Front is doable but from the secondary master up though the various hard lines valves etc. Periodically over the years and 20 bottles of fluid i would bleed and using all methods and i still there was air in the system. If i did it myself again and was leaving the linked system, would "only replace the front lines" back is pretty useless especially with air in the line you will never get out

#117

Really enjoying this thread, sorry about the (extreme) tank delay, was hoping to see your project out on the road soon!

I might have missed it, but what about the rear shock? Planning an upgrade?

A VFR/RC51 motivational pic:

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#118
gig, 4/13/2018 at 3:41 AM

It Is not easy to get fluid through a dry system with the linked brakes. I have never had a shop do any work on my bike in the 18 years I've owned it that is the one i would reconsider, if it had an experienced mechanic on staff, It is a mother-f-er. Front is doable but from the secondary master up though the various hard lines valves etc. Periodically over the years and 20 bottles of fluid i would bleed and using all methods and i still there was air in the system. If i did it myself again and was leaving the linked system, would "only replace the front lines" back is pretty useless especially with air in the line you will never get out

Did you try a Mity-Vac or another vacuum brake bleeding device? I did my LBS with new braided SS lines and it came out great. Patience and systematic approach and everything worked well.  Trick was to vacuum bleed the upper valve under the seat.  Brake performance was greatly improved.

#119
3 hours ago, Rush2112

Did you try a Mity-Vac or another vacuum brake bleeding device? I did my LBS with new braided SS lines and it came out great. Patience and systematic approach and everything worked well.  Brake performance was greatly improved.

Reverse bled, might vac, hung all part high and in different positions, nothing seemed to work completely. The bleed thread that shows hanging the secondary MC helped the most.

I’m loving the delink, but talk about hard to bleed, the brembo rear set up in notoriously difficult, but found a thread in Ducati forum that is supposed to be the bible on bleeding them

 http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15500    

#120

Woot! New fuel tank finally shipped out after 5 MONTHS!!!

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#121

^^^^^ Congrats! Cool!  -- You gotta post pics when it shows up..  :beer:

#122
23 hours ago, mello dude

^^^^^ Congrats! Cool!  -- You gotta post pics when it shows up..  :beer:

Oh yeah! 

#123

Riding great fellas!!! This thing is a rush! 

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#124

I used to call mine The Time Machine. It seemed to get me places faster than physics should allow! Ironically it topped out 1 mph slower than my VFR, but it sure got there a whole lot faster!

#125

It's been a year in the making - and worth the wait.  Sweet!   :cool:

#126

Looks great, you have some fun rides ahead!

#127

Looking good!

Now go find a track!!!

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#128
11 hours ago, Veefer800Canuck

Riding great fellas!!! This thing is a rush! 

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WOW! Holy bike lust!

#129

Methinks that is a view of Sierra Buttes from Gold Lake Highway, near Sierra City, Cal. Some fantastic roads & scenery in that vicinity.

St. Stephen, 4/14/2018 at 10:31 AM

A VFR/RC51 motivational pic:

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#130
Dutchy, 5/26/2018 at 10:38 AM

Looking good!

Now go find a track!!!

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Yes that’s the plan Stan! 

#131

A little rumble for ya, just down the street. 

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#132

New hugger coming from Duckhunter Composites. 

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#133

Ooooooohhhh luvverly!!! :-)

#134
18 hours ago, Dutchy

Ooooooohhhh luvverly!!! 🙂

It’s an old used Lockhart Phillips hugger I got for $50, and then I modified it with the bulge for the taller tire. 

Matt from Duckhunter Composites saw it and wanted me to ship it to him so he could make a mold of it and begin production in CF.

I got the first one free. 

#135

Update: end of last season, the injectors for the rear cylinder shit the bed, despite cleaning the entire fuel system, new tank, and professionally cleaned fuel injectors.

it was down on power, coughing and bucking, popping and farting, running like a bag of shit.  

I determined the fault by swapping the rear injectors to the front cylinder, and vice versa. 

Exhaust pipe temp on the good cyl was 350’c shortly after cold startup, whereas bad cyl was between 30-40’C

swapping the injectors made the problem reverse itself, so.....

4 brand new OEM injectors cured the problem, at an astronomical cost. Ouch.

#136

Also, through the winter, I added an SP2 RH radiator with fan (SP1 had only 1 fan), so I have double the cooling capacity when the fans kick in. 

However, I also had to get the SP2 oil cooler, lines, and center V-cowl, as it is relocated to allow fitment of the fan on the different rad. 

The LH OEM fan had been previously replaced by a SPAL pusher fan, so I now have one pusher fan and one puller fan. Should work OK in traffic and at speed also. 

And also put on a full set of Core Moto brake lines, and converted to coil-on-plug ignition using CBR600RR coils and modified CBR OEM coil wiring harness. 

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#137

It is only money....

#138

It'll just bolt right on aways trips me up, even with the smallest tasks. Of course, these little issues pose no problem to you.

I'd love to hear your what you have to say about the SP1 a couple years down the road. And I bet I'm not alone.

#139
2 hours ago, Lorne

It'll just bolt right on aways trips me up, even with the smallest tasks. Of course, these little issues pose no problem to you.

I'd love to hear your what you have to say about the SP1 a couple years down the road. And I bet I'm not alone.

Well, I’ve had it two years now and I’m loving it. It’s such a weapon, handles so nice. 

The 190/55 rear tire is the BOMB. Raises the rear and makes the bike steer crazy good. 

Hard to ride it for more then than two hours at a time, but I’ve lost 40 lbs over the winter and gotten MUCH fitter, hitting the gym an hour a day, so perhaps year two will be easier on the old frame now that I’m in shape??? 

#140
24 minutes ago, Veefer800Canuck

Well, I’ve had it two years now and I’m loving it. It’s such a weapon, handles so nice. 

The 190/55 rear tire is the BOMB. Raises the rear and makes the bike steer crazy good. 

Hard to ride it for more then than two hours at a time, but I’ve lost 40 lbs over the winter and gotten MUCH fitter, hitting the gym an hour a day, so perhaps year two will be easier on the old frame now that I’m in shape??? 

So just curious... assuming I still would want to grab one of these... is there any reason to prioritize a SP2 vs a SP1?

#141
20 minutes ago, mello dude

So just curious... assuming I still would want to grab one of these... is there any reason to prioritize a SP2 vs a SP1?

Besides being newer, yes. 

The SP1 is 2000-2001

SP2 is 2002-2006

The most sought after models are the 2004 “Nicky” editions and the 2006 all-black ones. 

There are a host of inprovements to the SP2, stiffer steering head stem, 12 hole fuel injectors, TWO radiator cooling fans instead of one, lighter and better looking wheels, upgraded swingarm, different rear shock, revised forks, different rear subframe, etc etc etc. 

Definetly get one one of those if you can. 

#143

SP-2s were a slight improvement over the SP-1.  The changes to the fuel injection along with the swingarm made the handling and fueling a bit better.  All of them in bone stock condition are a bit jumpy to ride at slow speeds.  They are also geared too high for most practical riding.  Most owners opt for a fuel manager and change the gear ratio.  Usually, one up in back and one down if front does very nicely to make it easier around town.  The 2006 models are the most "rare" if that matters.  By 06 Honda was using up the frames and parts they had on hand and there may have been as few a 400 examples.  I've never seen any vin numbers higher than that.  The '05 is also all black.  From 2002 on they are all identical from year to year except paint schemes.  That being said, for some reason the 04 Nicky versions are all much faster than the others...   😉

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#144

Having seen Colin and Aaron ride SP's at Assen at the start of the millennium, I agree with Skids that Castrols are luvverly and a few steps up!!..  :tongue: :tongue:

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#145
2 hours ago, TNRC51

SP-2s were a slight improvement over the SP-1.  The changes to the fuel injection along with the swingarm made the handling and fueling a bit better.  All of them in bone stock condition are a bit jumpy to ride at slow speeds.  They are also geared too high for most practical riding.  Most owners opt for a fuel manager and change the gear ratio.  Usually, one up in back and one down if front does very nicely to make it easier around town.  The 2006 models are the most "rare" if that matters.  By 06 Honda was using up the frames and parts they had on hand and there may have been as few a 400 examples.  I've never seen any vin numbers higher than that.  The '05 is also all black.  From 2002 on they are all identical from year to year except paint schemes.  That being said, for some reason the 04 Nicky versions are all much faster than the others...   😉

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I went +4 on the rear sprocket and kept the front sprocket stock. 

I also installed a G2 Throttle Tamer which works wonders for the slow speed running. 

ECU is stock, runs great with just a pair of slipons. 

#146

This thread is awesome.   I just got mine, the RC51 is just a classic amazing machine.  So unique.  I love your bike.   And I love mine.....lol

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#147

Down for a leaky fork seal. Drat!

BUT, also got new Brembo front discs and some new SBS sintered pads. Happy birthday to me! 

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#148

Van harte gefeliciteerd!!  :beer:

#149
34 minutes ago, Dutchy

Van harte gefeliciteerd!!  :beer:

Thanks. 3 more weeks though! 

#150

Fork seal is all good now, new Brembo discs are F’n awesome, paired with the new SBS sintered pads. 

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#151

DHC CF front fender and tank protector are on the way! 

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#152

While looking through this thread, I couldn’t see any pics of the brake caliper nastiness that I cleaned out about a year ago. 

This is what 17 year old brake fluid does. 

And yes yes I did the entire rear brake and clutch systems as well. 

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#154

Yuk, it sure is! :ohmy:   Luckily my 5 year old bike will only ever see 1 year old brake and clutch fluid.

#155
6 hours ago, Grum

Yuk, it sure is! :ohmy:   Luckily my 5 year old bike will only ever see 1 year old brake and clutch fluid.

Yeah, wasn’t my fault. Bought it like that. 

All good now! 

#156

Have managed 3 trackdays with the RC so far this year, and maybe one more in September. 

Loving it!!! 

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#157

BBRRRRROOOOAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP!!!  :fing02:

#158

More toys for the RC track weapon. 
 

Have been too busy rebuilding my garage at my new old house to do much riding or wrenching but I hope that’ll change soon! 

#159
8 hours ago, Lorne

The gold cover looks ace, Rob, and the rest look good too. Pity they can't be on display all the time, but the fairings come in handy I suppose 😉

And then some folks cover it up even more...

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#160
18 hours ago, Dutchy

And then some folks cover it up even more...

There's only a few race-rep paint schemes that, to my eye, look good. Took me awhile, but I've come round on the Castrol graphics of your SP-2. And I always enjoy reading about your adventures aboard it.

#161
21 hours ago, Lorne

There's only a few race-rep paint schemes that, to my eye, look good. Took me awhile, but I've come round on the Castrol graphics of your SP-2. And I always enjoy reading about your adventures aboard it.

But Dutchy's getting close to the edge, one more sticker and that RC is a goner. 

We'll have to ask Colin Edwards for an expert opinion!

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#162

Going, going.....   :tongue:

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The sticker bonanza partly the result of the (chinesium) panels starting life in the oem SP2 livery....

And the star spangled banner??  Despite belief in some quarters,  I *do* like the USA...  :laugh:

#163
11 hours ago, Dutchy

Going, going.....   :tongue:

The sticker bonanza partly the result of the (chinesium) panels starting life in the oem SP2 livery....

And the star spangled banner??  Despite belief in some quarters,  I *do* like the USA...  :laugh:

I do love the Castrol livery--it looks great, and also it reminds me of the great Ducati/RC-51 battles in WSBK 20 years ago. And the two bikes in my garage!

#164

Seeing Edwards and Slight race at Assen planted the seed in my head that "one day....."  :laugh:

#165

Decided to gear the beast down just a Little bit more for city riding. 

#166

Trackdays scheduled for July, can’t wait. 
 

this is from last year. 

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#167
9 hours ago, Veefer800Canuck

Decided to gear the beast down just a Little bit more for city riding. 

Yeah, stock gearing is sky high. I went to 15/41 ( I think stock is 16/40) which is just right for me.

That bike is beautiful.

#168

I went with the (ridiculous)14/43 with an 1/8th turn throttle - great for the track, but I might put the 15 front on since I still carve it up a bit on the street.

#169
7 hours ago, RC1237V

I went with the (ridiculous)14/43 with an 1/8th turn throttle - great for the track, but I might put the 15 front on since I still carve it up a bit on the street.

I was @ 16/44 but went 16/45 just for the stoplights in the city. It’s perfect now. 

#170
14 hours ago, St. Stephen

Yeah, stock gearing is sky high. I went to 15/41 ( I think stock is 16/40) which is just right for me.

That bike is beautiful.


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#171

Nice pic. The RC51 is one of my all time iconic motorcycles.

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