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Throttle control

32 posts Started 12 Mar 2012 Last recovered post 29 Jun 2015 Wayback Machine snapshot 21 Feb 2016
#1 [unknown member] Thread starter
Anyone using any cruise control devises on their VFRs? Kaoko, Throttlemeister or Vista Cruise users willing to share experience and pictures? I used to have a Vista Cruise on my old VFR800VTEC but I'm not sure how the Vista would fit the new VFR. Also, Kaoko and Throttlemeister much more expensive than the Vista.
#2 [unknown member] Thread starter
I have a Throttlemeister on both my VFRs. I wouldn't go without one. Worth the cash in my opinion.
#3 [unknown member] Thread starter
Throttlemeister on my 7th gen.  Very very nice piece of kit.  Pricey for sure but it sure feels quality.  That said, I have a vista cruise on my 6th gen which worked great, and if I didn't have the factory heated grips on the 7th gen, which make it impossible to install a vista cruise due to zero clearance, I'd probably have gone that route (b/c I'm cheap).   I love the throttlemeisters though.  They really are slick.
#4 [unknown member] Thread starter
I installed the spring loaded salamander on my veefalo
#5 [unknown member] Thread starter
My 6th gen came with a Throttlemeister and I will never part with it!  Didn't use for a while because it made me nervous living in the city and all the traffic.  But once I used it, It's hard to keep my right hand from frequently fondling it on the highways.

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#6 [unknown member] Thread starter
Throttlemeister here as well:

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It is nice, and the weight can help (if only a little) with vibration in the throttle grip.  ...that said, I had a Kaoko Throttle Lock on my KTM 950 Adventure, and it worked every bit as well as a throttle lock (actually, a bit easier to operate).  My biggest complaint with the bar-end type is that they are a bit of an art to actually use.

I also started using a Throttle Rocker (one of those palm-rest things) and it also helps on longer rides.  I'm a very "loose fingers" type of rider; in fact, my fingers are rarely touching the grips at all on the fwy, yet my right hand will go numb quickly at fwy cruising speeds ...never an issue when sport-riding; so the Throttlemeister comes in very handy on longer rides!
#7 [unknown member] Thread starter
Love my throttlemeisters, and I got them right here for cheap.  I read so much about how they were hard to install, but I had them on there in 10 mins and havent thought about any adjustments since.  At least on a 5th Gen, the vibration damping alone was worth the trouble, and its use is so easy and natural, I find myself using it for short stretches on the highway between groups of cars.

Highly recommeded, (I dont know how I did long trips without them)
#8 [unknown member] Thread starter

[image: View Post]dcassidy1214, on 12 March 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

My 6th gen came with a Throttlemeister and I will never part with it!  Didn't use for a while because it made me nervous living in the city and all the traffic.  But once I used it, It's hard to keep my right hand from frequently fondling it on the highways.

Uh...what are you fondling?

Throttlemeister here...no fondling...
#9 [unknown member] Thread starter
I have been known to fondle.
#10 [unknown member] Thread starter
Thanks everyone. I've decided to settle for Throttlemeister, hope it's a good choice. :tour:
#11 interceptorrider
You'll like it once you get the hang of it (easy). This is my 4th Throttlemeister on a bike. Good product for what it does. Ride safe.
#12 ReadingVFR

I know this is an old topic but has anyone tried the Omni-Cruise on a 7th generation? We are looking at doing a 2-up trip across the country in July and just looking at an option to rest the throttle hand once and a while.

 
#13 Marsman99
The standard Vista Cruise is the best throttle lock IMO. Easy natural thumb actuation (on/off), doesn't take grip space, doesn't slip and no hysteresis (if installed correctly). Have it on the Gen4 and love it. Sadly, as noted by Eastbowl2, it won't fit the Gen7 with heated grips. I tried the Kaoko on the Gen7, but really didn't like the palm/pinky actuation technique. It was tough to get it to lock at current speed, always needed to set, then adjust. Yeah it's easy enough, but compared to the Vista...meh. For same reason, no need to try the Throttlemeister. I settled on the Omni Cruise for the Gen7...it works, but eats grip space, slips, suffers hysteresis, and is a nuisance to find a sweet spot speed. Pales compared to the Vista. If I could find an easy to install electronic "real" cruise control, I'd be all over it. FWIW, the Kaoko and Throttlemeister do look cool on the bike.
#14 Volfy

That's what I have on mine.  I first bought a Go Cruise, which is a copy of the Omni Cruise.  Like it so much I bought the original.  Each one has some pros and cons.  The Omni Cruise has a large thumb assist, and it is a bit more refined, but I like that I can adjust Go Cruise's tension wheel with my index finger without lifting off my throttle grip.  

You are right about these being nothing more than temporary throttle locks... not cruise control.  As long as that is your expectation, either will serve the purpose very well.


#15 Newie

Decided to make a clone Vista Cruise for limited space reasons also, of course made of stainless steel to get the same corrosion résistance as the original plastic version

 

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#16 zedXmick
Throttlemeister had them on my last 3 motorcycles....only way to go......of course I'd trade it in a heartbeat for an electronic cruise from the factory.
#20 Rush2112

My BrakeAway Cruise Control on my V-Star was my favorite solution... in a pinch, the cramp buster worked GREAT on my 600+ mile ride back from TMAC


#21 Freddo

I fitted one of the new model Breakaway Cruise Control. Model 7CP02.

I do have LSL handlebars, but it should still fit the standard bars.

It fits 7/8" bars.


#22 Newie
Nice things.

Unfortunately not compatible with heated grips these latest solutions, besides the fact that they are reasonable gripspace consuming
#23 swimmer

Decided to make a clone Vista Cruise for limited space reasons also, of course made of stainless steel to get the same corrosion résistance as the original plastic version

 

That's nice.  If you happen to be interested in making another one and selling it please let me know.


#24 ReadingVFR

I ended up going for the kaoko cruise control for my upcoming trip and initial impressions are very positive.


#26 swimmer

I like to ride with my palms extending past the grips and onto the bar-end weights.  I'm afraid that I would inadvertently engage the Kaoko and Throttlemeister units. 

The brand-new Atlas looks ideal, but how did they come up with that price???  http://www.atlasthrottlelock.com/order-atlas/atlas-throttle-lock 

Has anyone tried the one yet?

I per-ordered the Atlas back in January with high hopes it would work on the VFR1200.  I posted my thoughts in the vendor's thread on advrider.  http://www.advrider....=1014518&page=9

Long story short, it doesn't work on the VFR.  It's a well made piece though.  I'll probably stick it on my WR250R.


#27 Flubber

I like to ride with my palms extending past the grips and onto the bar-end weights.  I'm afraid that I would inadvertently engage the Kaoko and Throttlemeister units. 

The brand-new Atlas looks ideal, but how did they come up with that price???  http://www.atlasthrottlelock.com/order-atlas/atlas-throttle-lock 

Has anyone tried the one yet?

I per-ordered the Atlas back in January with high hopes it would work on the VFR1200.  I posted my thoughts in the vendor's thread on advrider.  http://www.advrider....=1014518&page=9

Long story short, it doesn't work on the VFR.  It's a well made piece though.  I'll probably stick it on my WR250R.

I like to ride with my palms extending past the grips and onto the bar-end weights.  I'm afraid that I would inadvertently engage the Kaoko and Throttlemeister units. 

The brand-new Atlas looks ideal, but how did they come up with that price???  http://www.atlasthrottlelock.com/order-atlas/atlas-throttle-lock 

Has anyone tried the one yet?

I per-ordered the Atlas back in January with high hopes it would work on the VFR1200.  I posted my thoughts in the vendor's thread on advrider.  http://www.advrider....=1014518&page=9

Long story short, it doesn't work on the VFR.  It's a well made piece though.  I'll probably stick it on my WR250R.

Thanks for the tip, Swimmer.  I hate having to return merchandise.


#28 crakerjac
@Swimmer, if you didn't have heated grips would you have been able to get that throttle lock to work? I think it looks way better than my brakeaway lock and the push button operation is really all I need.

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#29 Marsman99
On non-heated grips, you're free to break the grip free, trim the outside edge and slide it to the right to provide the needed clearance between the housing and grip rubber...then re-cement it of course. The heated grip and throttle tube are one piece, can't get the grip rubber off w/o mucking up the heater element. Can't trim the inner edge of the grip either as the wires are at the very inner edge. This is how I got the Vista lock to work on my Gen 4.
#30 Switchblade

He's   right   ^^^  ....

Roll  On  ..


#31 swimmer

@Swimmer, if you didn't have heated grips would you have been able to get that throttle lock to work? I think it looks way better than my brakeaway lock and the push button operation is really all I need.

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Without the heated grips I'd still have the problem of the lock hitting the brake when I wound up the throttle but, like I said in the post I run the brake close to the grip.  Position 6.

The there is the issue of the little rubber pad not having much surface area of the throttle housing to grip against.  Seems like this would be a deal breaker for any VFR1200.  The VFR does seem to have a stiffer than normal throttle return spring though, IMO.

Also the lock will hit the tank fairing at near right lock. 

I put the lock on my WR250R.  Works fine on that.


#32 crakerjac

Without the heated grips I'd still have the problem of the lock hitting the brake when I wound up the throttle but, like I said in the post I run the brake close to the grip.  Position 6.

The there is the issue of the little rubber pad not having much surface area of the throttle housing to grip against.  Seems like this would be a deal breaker for any VFR1200.  The VFR does seem to have a stiffer than normal throttle return spring though, IMO.

Also the lock will hit the tank fairing at near right lock. 

I put the lock on my WR250R.  Works fine on that.

Maybe I'm just confused on how something like this is supposed to install.  I guess I thought that it attached to the throttle housing somehow so that the unit didn't rotate.  If that was the case, then you shouldn't have to worry about it hitting the brake or rotating its way into interference with other parts.  The way your pictures make it look, the ATLAS moves around all willy nilly until you lock the unit and then just uses friction against the throttle housing to keep the throttle from rotating... I fired off an email to them to see if they can provide some clarifications. 

I do like my BrakeAway unit and I think it works nice, but I just don't care for the look.  If I could get something like the ATLAS to work, then sell my BrakeAway for what I have into the ATLAS, I would be happy.

Edit: I completely misunderstood how the ATLAS worked.  I thought it attached to the throttle housing and clamped down on the throttle tube when the button was pressed.  Instead, it rotates with the throttle tube and applies pressure (with 'friction pad') to the throttle housing when the button is pressed.  Completely backwards from what I envisioned and probably not what I was looking for.

Carry on.


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