After reading Coffeebrake's account of a Harley pile-up on the Cherohala during the 2012 TMAC, it occurs to me that many of us in this region see these types of cruiser incidents where the bikes are moving in a tight sub-speed limit formation (rolling road block) and one or more of them inexplicably ends up off the road. Usually the consequences aren't so severe, however. At the 2011 TMAC I spoke with another forum member, who said that he has actually recorded some of these types of incidents on his GoPro while he was behind a cruiser waiting for a chance to pass.
I've come to believe that at least part of the explanation is that the slow riders are paying too much attention to their rear view mirrors when a sport bike pulls up behind them. They know they're about to be passed, so they start watching you to see when and how you're going to do it. My solution is to keep a little distance and then try to pass them all as a group. Thoughts, anyone?
Nah............ just do a "Timmy" to get them to move over....
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You may have a point but if they are not properly trained to operate a vehicle they shold not be on it.
At the Dragon, the odd HD I did encounter would spot me in his mirror (or hear the gutted exhaust) and within two turn would wave me by. Bye!!!
[image: View Post]JRC, on 26 May 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:
After reading Coffeebrake's account of a Harley pile-up on the Cherohala during the 2012 TMAC, it occurs to me that many of us in this region see these types of cruiser incidents where the bikes are moving in a tight sub-speed limit formation (rolling road block) and one or more of them inexplicably ends up off the road. Usually the consequences aren't so severe, however. At the 2011 TMAC I spoke with another forum member, who said that he has actually recorded some of these types of incidents on his GoPro while he was behind a cruiser waiting for a chance to pass.
I've come to believe that at least part of the explanation is that the slow riders are paying too much attention to their rear view mirrors when a sport bike pulls up behind them. They know they're about to be passed, so they start watching you to see when and how you're going to do it. My solution is to keep a little distance and then try to pass them all as a group. Thoughts, anyone?
Thats easier said the done on twisty road, you cant pass in one shot. Really they should run 2 or 3 second intervals in twisties, sport bikes wouldnt have issue at all passing 3 or 4 at a time, its really when they try and run 1 second intervals, there's no margin for errors.
I don't want to sound harsh but on the way home from TxMac on Sunday I witnessed no fewer than 4 cruisers and 1 Wing holding up SUVs and trucks at 20-28 UNDER the posted speed limit. If you have no confidence in your ability to control your vehicle get the hell off the road until you do, regardless of the vehicle. And for sure don't plop a passenger on back and toodle along at 25 under.
And I don't want to hear that cruisers (the bikes) aren't capable of doing the speed limit on 68 or the Cherohala. I submit my uncle and his HD Road King or one of his previous 3 HDs with it's ground down floor boards.
The term "Sunday Driver" has it's origin in the first few decades of mass produced autos that were loaned to (usually) unlicensed drivers on Sundays to ride around and see what they thought of the area and this new-fangled transportation mode.
Sunday should be used by inexperienced motorcycle pilots to practice in deserted school parking lots.
Call me crazy, but I never thought the slow riding was due to inexperience, but the need for attention. They might say the need for respect. . . Either way, I always appreciate a point by.
It may be both inexperience and the need for whatever, each at different times.
Over on our Bay Area ride
http://www.vfrdiscus...-call-ride-xxx/, we came upon a couple, he was on a V-Strom and I forget what she had and they were 10-15
UNDER and slowing up an Oldsmobile up the road to Mt. Hamilton. They wouldn't take a turnout and only 3 riders passed them and the Olds did they wave the rest by.
I felt sorry for the lady because she was locked-elbow, pointed straight ahead on a seriously technical road going from 0 - 4200ft. They made it though. We saw them at the observatory.
If you have to drive slow to be safe, pull over, wave us by, but do something to acknowledge your current lack of skill or ridiculously leisure pace.
Not taking turn outs drives me nucking futs!!! The way I see it, the more I let people ride their ride, the more I can ride mine. And visa versa.