Hand signals?

Is there a standard hand signal to be used to warn oncoming riders about a speed trap?
With the pinch the city and county budgets are having, speed traps seem to be their new way of raising revenue.

How about one to warn of a road hazard ahead such as bicyclists, slow moving farm equipment, heaved pavement.

Hand patting top of helmet = LEO ahead.

This may help..

http://www.msf-usa.o.../Group_Ride.pdf

[image: View Post]Alaskan, on 31 August 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

Hand patting top of helmet = LEO ahead.
I think I may have read this before and had forgotten it. Conflicts with the MSF signals, but maybe if you are going in opposite directions, the intended meaning might change.

[image: View Post]bayarearider, on 31 August 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

This may help..

http://www.msf-usa.o.../Group_Ride.pdf
I have never seen this before.

Thanks to both.

A tap to the helmet may work in the ISA, but in Europa it will not work.
In NL pointing to your head means "you are crazy".....

We use the slow down signal in the .pdf

Hand pat on the top of the head and standard slow down as shown on the .pdf


The Canadians at SumSum2 taught us a great "clear to pass" signal that our group ended up using extensively with great results.

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 31 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Hand pat on the top of the head and standard slow down as shown on the .pdf


The Canadians at SumSum2 taught us a great "clear to pass" signal that our group ended up using extensively with great results.
Any chance you could share it?

[image: View Post]CharlesW, on 31 August 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 31 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Hand pat on the top of the head and standard slow down as shown on the .pdf


The Canadians at SumSum2 taught us a great "clear to pass" signal that our group ended up using extensively with great results.
Any chance you could share it?

The riders ahead, seeing that the coast is clear, will extend a stiff left arm with a fist straight out parallel to the ground.   As long as the way is clear to pass the arm will remain out.   As soon as the leading riders see oncoming traffic they will quickly drop their arm.

Slammer, Reddog, Panamawing, Gswanson and myself ended up using it extensively and it worked perfectly.   It relayed information right on down the line from the guy up front to the guy in position to pass.

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 31 August 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

[image: View Post]CharlesW, on 31 August 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 31 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Hand pat on the top of the head and standard slow down as shown on the .pdf


The Canadians at SumSum2 taught us a great "clear to pass" signal that our group ended up using extensively with great results.
Any chance you could share it?

The riders ahead, seeing that the coast is clear, will extend a stiff left arm with a fist straight out parallel to the ground.   As long as the way is clear to pass the arm will remain out.   As soon as the leading riders see oncoming traffic they will quickly drop their arm.

Slammer, Reddog, Panamawing, Gswanson and myself ended up using it extensively and it worked perfectly.   It relayed information right on down the line from the guy up front to the guy in position to pass.
Thank you!
The only problem I see with it is that with such limited passing distances on the roads we ride, passing is usually a 2 gear drop, full throttle exercise.
Both hands on the bars to stay in the saddle is sometimes neccesary.
Have to experiment with it a little.
If it worked for your group, it should work for us. :fing02:

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 31 August 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

The riders ahead, seeing that the coast is clear, will extend a stiff left arm with a fist straight out parallel to the ground.   As long as the way is clear to pass the arm will remain out.   As soon as the leading riders see oncoming traffic they will quickly drop their arm.

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Not sure about anyone else but I'm seeing a few problems with this. Aside from possibly a few to several riders running with only one hand on the bars for a period that it takes for the whole group to get passed something, how do you trust them all. What if one rider's arm is out and another pulls his in. You really shouldn't be trusting someone else to tell you when it's safe to pass when their likely also concentrating on running their pace. Never initiate a pass unless you yourself can determine if you can pull it off.
In the group I ride with it would be considered very bad form to signal for others to pass, everyone's got to ride their own pace with absolutely no influence from anyone else.

[image: View Post]Dutchy, on 31 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

In NL pointing to your head means "you are crazy".....
It is not pointing to your head, it is tapping on your head/helmet. AFAIK that signal is used in Europe too, at least I do. I wonder where it comes from, maybe from when the police cars only had a single blue light on the roof of their vehicles. Or maybe it comes from the funny helmets they were wearing when driving their convertibles :biggrin:
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Back in those days they all had a moustache but for that you have to use both hands to make the signal :laugh:

That is messed up!  They give you an awesome 911 convertable then make you wear a d-bag helmet and a d-bag moustache.

For on-coning traffic flashing the headlights for "LEO ahead" has a well understood meaning.  Slow down hand signal is also OK but a little less clear.

It's been a while sine I've been scuba diving but placing your hand palm down on top of you head was the ask and response for "are you OK, is everything OK".  Since it is hard to see a thumbs up signal while riding we use hand on top of helmet for as "OK"