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Huge Biker Protest in Europe

9 posts Started 22 Sep 2012 Last recovered post 23 Sep 2012 Wayback Machine snapshot 10 Oct 2012

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More government = Less freedom.
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Impressive that such a large protest was so well controlled. It's almost like motorcyclist understand their place in traffic and behave themselves in respect to that.

Let's pleeaze avoid talking politics in general terms. It never ends well and always gets ugly. Sticking to the issue at hand is much more productive and less offensive and lends itself to a conversation more people can find agreement on.  I think the lesson is in how well they carried out the protest and how eloquently they delivered the message.
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[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 22 September 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Impressive that such a large protest was so well controlled. It's almost like motorcyclist understand their place in traffic and behave themselves in respect to that.

Let's pleeaze avoid talking politics in general terms. It never ends well and always gets ugly. Sticking to the issue at hand is much more productive and less offensive and lends itself to a conversation more people can find agreement on.  I think the lesson is in how well they carried out the protest and how eloquently they delivered the message.
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Dutchy was here......

Austria 33????

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I was on that protest too, and a few others. The message from the contributors sets out the problem well.
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[image: View Post]vfrjim2002, on 22 September 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 22 September 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Impressive that such a large protest was so well controlled. It's almost like motorcyclist understand their place in traffic and behave themselves in respect to that.

Let's pleeaze avoid talking politics in general terms. It never ends well and always gets ugly. Sticking to the issue at hand is much more productive and less offensive and lends itself to a conversation more people can find agreement on.  I think the lesson is in how well they carried out the protest and how eloquently they delivered the message.
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  • The ralley was to show support for the lobbying that is done to present our case
  • The EU has rules of process that are good, there is a vote on laws that are to become EU wide law.
  • The Dutch government will vote AGAINST this "anti tampering/compulsory testing law"
  • The proposal fails to produce the "need" for it. analysi show that only n 0.3% of mc accidents, state of the vehicle played a role.
  • Imposing a law on 99.7% of the rest will not fly
  • One of the organisatins that is lobbying strongly in favour is DEKRA; the very organisation that will provide the testing/checking services.
  • One of the arguments used against it was nonsense "politicians should focus on averting the economic crisis"; this effectibely says "you can come back with this proposal once the economy has bounced back"

The ralley was good. The only disccourse a (Harley?) rider that during one of the speeches decided to give it full throttle with his open piped bike.
At least half a mile away but it overshouted everything.  now, one could argue that open pipes should be legal, but Ilearned that my freedom ends where it hurts others....


Nuff said!
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[image: View Post]VFR Capt.Bob, on 22 September 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Impressive that such a large protest was so well controlled. It's almost like motorcyclist understand their place in traffic and behave themselves in respect to that.

Let's pleeaze avoid talking politics in general terms. It never ends well and always gets ugly. Sticking to the issue at hand is much more productive and less offensive and lends itself to a conversation more people can find agreement on.  I think the lesson is in how well they carried out the protest and how eloquently they delivered the message.

Thanks Capt. Bob...I concur that sharp political statements can distract the conversation away from the joys of motorcycling that we do share.

I think that most here would agree that our sport/hobby/past time includes our love of making alterations and improvements to our machines.  It is good to see our EU pals standing against regulations that would prevent customizing, altering and general farkling.  I wonder how effectively we could organize a response to such a proposal on this side of the pond.  ABATE has been effective for many years in their on-going campaign (lobbying) against mandated helment use.  I do not know much about ABATE, but perhaps ABATE or AMA would organize an effort should unsound regulations be sought in the US and/or Canada.
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