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#1

Hi guy's, anybody had any issues using Gasohol fuel, it seems like its the only fuel i am going to get here in future. I met a guy that has a BMW and he found that it melted the rubbers in his fuel pump, cost him a fortune to replace.


#2

There is a discussion (with some good links) on the Singapore Bikes Forums. The Gasohol in Thailand is a 90-10 blend of gasoline and ethanol, which apparently does not affect fuel-injected engines. The ethanol is said to attack rubber and plastic parts found in carburetors, though. I have not read reports on using 85-15 blend, however, so use at your own risk.

http://www.singapore...-95-in-Thailand


#3
Modern Fi vehicles should not have a problem, be they cars or bikes. The rubbers used in the fuel system should be resistant to alcohols. I have used ethanol blended fuels in my 800 for years and years without any difficulty. If it were gonna break, I think it would have done so in the past 14 years and 85,000 kilometres.
#4
Modern Fi vehicles should not have a problem, be they cars or bikes. The rubbers used in the fuel system should be resistant to alcohols. I have used ethanol blended fuels in my 800 for years and years without any difficulty. If it were gonna break, I think it would have done so in the past 14 years and 85,000 kilometres.

It sure does affect mpg though...

Glad we get all the 100% gas we want here in Oklahoma.  Also don't have to worry as much about H2O condensing in fuel...


#5

 The main problem with ethanol blended gas for fuel injection systems is when the fuel sits in the system for extended periods. It can gum things up, and corrode metal parts. If you know the bike will sit for a while (more than a month) add some fuel stabilizer, and run it enough to get it through the system before storing.

 The more ethanol in the fuel, the shorter the time period before bad things happen.


#6
 The main problem with ethanol blended gas for fuel injection systems is when the fuel sits in the system for extended periods. It can gum things up, and corrode metal parts. If you know the bike will sit for a while (more than a month) add some fuel stabilizer, and run it enough to get it through the system before storing.

 The more ethanol in the fuel, the shorter the time period before bad things happen.

I've been using Startron, a marine product that lots of bike shops are carrying now.  You can find it at West Marine and others I'm sure...

I use it whenever I'm on a trip and forced to use E10 gas.


#7

 Here in CA we have no choice but E10. It's not a huge problem for me since my bikes rarely sit for more than a week, but my neighbor who rides less frequently has had some issues especially with his carbed 900SS. He's had good results simply adding some Seafoam to the tank.

 I have worked on many carburated systems that sat for extended periods. It's a real PITA to clean out the crud that ethanol blended fuel creates in carbed vehicles. Unless a FI bike has sat for a long time all it usually takes is a good dose of FI cleaner, and lots of WOT to clean things out. Less moisture trapped in a healthy FI system. Carbs by nature trap more fuel, and are more open to the environment.

 Don't get me started on the whole issue of why our government mandates that we turn food into fuel. It creates many more problems than it solves.


#8

We've had E-10 here is Minnesota for years. My '01 old gal has 105,000 miles on E-10 with nary a sign of fuel problems.

 Here in CA we have no choice but E10. It's not a huge problem for me since my bikes rarely sit for more than a week, but my neighbor who rides less frequently has had some issues especially with his carbed 900SS. He's had good results simply adding some Seafoam to the tank.

 I have worked on many carburated systems that sat for extended periods. It's a real PITA to clean out the crud that ethanol blended fuel creates in carbed vehicles. Unless a FI bike has sat for a long time all it usually takes is a good dose of FI cleaner, and lots of WOT to clean things out. Less moisture trapped in a healthy FI system. Carbs by nature trap more fuel, and are more open to the environment.

 Don't get me started on the whole issue of why our government mandates that we turn food into fuel. It creates many more problems than it solves.

I'm with Mbrane; corn should be in my breakfast food and taco shells, not my fuel.


#9

Ethanol fuel robs power significantly among other bad things such as lower mileage.  I can buy pure gasoline where I live and use it in everything.  

Go to puregas.org to find out where to buy it.  

It takes more btu's of energy to make a gallon of ethanol than the number

of btu's in a gallon of ethanol, so it makes sense for our dis-functional govt. to use this kind of bad math.  Your tax dollars at "work".    


#10
Hi guy's, anybody had any issues using Gasohol fuel, it seems like its the only fuel i am going to get here in future. I met a guy that has a BMW and he found that it melted the rubbers in his fuel pump, cost him a fortune to replace.

I think the owners manual allows 10% ethenol so running it is not a problem.  If it is going to sit more than a month I use a fuel stabilzer.  Works for my lawn mower, snow thrower, and the motorcycles.  The only problem I've ever had has been with the lawn mower carbs needing to be cleaned one spring.  I don't think you have to worry about 10% ethenol damaging you machines just the storage issues.

Now...I don't know what 15% ethenal will do.  Contrary to the claims by the EPA the only vehicle I own that does not specifically warn against E85 is a 2012 Subaru.  All of the others claim using more 10% ethenal will void the warrenty.


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