6th gen abs rear tire hugger

Look like this one from Powerbronze (UK distributor)?

http://www.powerbron...NER-12-13.model

Hers looks like a much cheaper version of that one. I will look at it when I get home from work to see if there are any markings on it & post up a pic.

I still have not found a company that states its for an ABS model, all non-abs

Thanks. Didn't catch that when it was live.

Hey Cogswell, since you have one on your ABS, how about a couple of fotos of how you solved it?

I'll see what I can scare up this weekend - I don't have any existing closeups of it fitted - just a broad view.  In the meantime, if I may, maybe I can add this to the battery box thing . . .

*  Since the hugger fits only to the swingarm, any interference from anything not attached to the swingarm is going to have to result from the swingarm's upward movement.   The battery box is in no more danger from the hugger than from the tire. 

* The battery sits in the tray under the seat - Honda calls it "Fender Assy. B, RR" in the parts fiche.  The part # for both ABS and non-ABS models is the same - 80140-MCW-D01.  I don't want to talk anyone in to spending money on a part that won't fit, but I honestly do not see how the "battery box" integrated in to the tray under the seat could interfere with a hugger mounted to the swingarm (it certainly does not on mine). 

* To the preload adjuster . . .  with the hugger being only 1/2" to 3/4" off the tire, plenty of room is left to clear the back of the pre-load adjuster that's attached to the rear passenger peg mount ("Holder, R. Pillion Step in Honda-speak).  As the swingarm moves up and down, I could easily get my thumb between the hugger and the back of the pre-load adjuster.  That's not an issue unless the hugger is waaaay off the tire (which I doubt).

* I think the real issue with fitment on ABS vs non-ABS is the ABS wire from the pulse generator to the ECU.  On ABS models the clamps that hold the brake hoses to the chainguard have a small relief in them to accommodate the wire.  My guess is that since only about 10% of 6th gens have ABS, it was not worth the engineering and certification costs to come up with a way to retain the wire for such a small base of customers  - they were hitting 90% of buyers as is.  They didn't want to "be responsible" if anything happens - especially in the sue-happy USA.   The way I dealt with that was to get 2 zip ties and simply attach the wire to the brake hoses.  It's been that way for the past 14,000 miles - no problems what so ever. 

How you choose to retain the brake hoses is dependent on what the unit has to hold them.  If the hugger fits over the chainguard, that's not an issue, (though the wire could be pinched if not protected in some way).   Mine has two threaded retained nuts in the chainguard, so I used two plastic wire clamps like these to hold the hoses - 1 for each hose and then the two hoses are zip-tied together with the wire then zip-tied to the hoses.   If this isn't sufficient explanation, post that up and I'll see if I can get some photos of what you're looking for.

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Anyone know why a rear tire hugger won't fit a 6th gen with ABS? All the listings I see for the 6th gen models from all the manufacturers say "non ABS only" for them.

This came up a week or so ago in another thread . . .

http://www.vfrdiscus...uggers-for-abs/

Thanks. Didn't catch that when it was live.

Hey Cogswell, since you have one on your ABS, how about a couple of fotos of how you solved it?

Just heard from the company...
"The battery box on the ABS version is different, this prevents the hugger from fitting."

Huh? This sound right to you guys? Different battery box?

Sounds right since there is a remote preload adjuster on the shock that needs to be given some room...not present on the non-ABS

Yeah, but the thing goes over the tire. Can't see how the shock or a battery box would interfere with that. I must be missing something.

Yep...looking for it now. Can't see to find the battery box on the fiche. Logic would say it's with the battery, but these fiche things don't run on logic. Step = footpeg, etc.

If you have ever taken the shock off a VFR (6th gen) with the swingarm and battery still on the bike, you would understand the need for a different shaped battery box for the ABS model with the remote preload adjuster...you need the extra room for the extra hardware and bulk at the top of the shock...You may not be able to see that when the shock is bolted into place.  Someone correct me if I am not remembering correctly...

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My wife's '06 ABS has a carbon fiber looking hugger, but I don't know who makes it, it was on the bike when we bought it.

Great ideas and thoughts. Thanks for the clarification . Always better to talk to someone who has the same setup. I'll let you know what I come up with after looking at the hugger tomorrow.

6th gen ABS bikes though?

https://www.pyramid-...00 VTEC Huggers

Ok - here are some photos

I left the grommets from the OE chainguard install on the hoses and the wire to protect them from chafing.  You can see the wiring clamps I mentioned previously - they're held in place with a bolt that threads in to a captured nut in the chainguard section.  I did not like the idea of clamping the hoses between the chainguard and a long section of material on top of them.   On the right side, there is plenty of room between the shock adjuster and the hugger - it's  been no problem. 

To protect the brake hoses, I got a length of fuel hose at the auto parts store, split it lengthwise and placed it over the hoses.  It was just another added layer of protection from chafing if the hoses move around as the suspension moves.  

Honestly, while I can't speak to some of the brands mentioned - I haven't seen them or owned one - my best guess is that they reason they specify non-ABS is due to the wire.  It's should be easy for any DIY mechanic to come up with a solution for it.  I used zip ties and it's been fine over thousands of miles.  YMMV. 

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6th gen ABS bikes though?

Well, I checked out the hugger today (from a guy who sold his bike). It was damaged pretty badly on the top...looked like the bike compressed and something gouged it pretty good, so I passed on it. Thanks for the info guys. I'll keep looking for one a little less used...

I DID pick up a flawless silver OEM topcase with keys from him though. Says he got it with the bike and never used it. I believe him from the looks of it.  He also had a GIVI screen, but I got one of those when I bought this thing, so I passed on it. Also had an OEM  seat and an '04 flat black seat cowl as well.