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Loose Feeling In The Rear - Seventh Generation VFR's

10 posts Started 26 Sep 2014 Last recovered post 26 Sep 2014 Wayback Machine snapshot 21 Jun 2015

#1

I was out getting acclimated to my 1200 last night. Not being too aggressive, but more than I was on the test rides and highways. In the tighter turns, I felt this odd looseness in the back end. I can recreate it easily, but I cannot diagnose it.

I cannot tell if the rear end is slipping, wallowing, or loosing traction. The tire is brand new and manufactured in 2013. Tire pressure is 40 lbs cuz I am big. It's a Dunlop and I have never ridden on those before. Always had Pilot Road 2's.  Tires should have been warm, 20 minutes on a highway to get to the curves.

How do I start to diagnose this? Do I take off all preload and test it? Lower tire pressure? Is it in my head and this is how a drive shaft feels? (I kind of doubt this one) Any tips appreciated guys.

#2

Stand  behind  it and  leave  the  side stand down  .  Then  level  the bike  out  and  push  down(passenger  handles)and  then let  it  return  to  normal  position  and  see  if  there  any resistance going  downward  and  then  see if  the  rebound  is  about  the  same  as  the  damping. Since  you  just bought it  you  need    set  your  sag  also.  Your  preload  is  probably  wrong .


Here  are  the  factory setting .

                       Front preload          front rebound damping     damping rear preload      rear rebound damping 

VFR1200F('10)  9mm of adjuster       5 clicks out                     13 clicks in             .         .75 turns out

                        Showing                                                        from full soft

#3
The smart arse answer would be eat less curry - then your rear end would not be so loose :)

But in all seriousness - set the pressure to the standard pressure - it's the same single or two up riding - I am a heavy guy too and I have no issues - then set rear shock setting to the standard in the manual and then 5 clicks more on preload and 2 clicks more on rebound

Then give that a go

Which rear tyre? Roadsmart or roadsmart 2? Or something else?
#4

Maybe  not  factory  but  these  are suggested setting .


Stand  behind  it and  leave  the  side stand down  .  Then  level  the bike  out  and  push  down(passenger  handles)and  then let  it  return  to  normal  position  and  see  if  there  any resistance going  downward  and  then  see if  the  rebound  is  about  the  same  as  the  damping. Since  you  just bought it  you  need    set  your  sag  also.  Your  preload  is  probably  wrong .


Here  are  the  factory setting .

                       Front preload          front rebound damping     damping rear preload      rear rebound damping 

VFR1200F('10)  9mm of adjuster       5 clicks out                     13 clicks in             .         .75 turns out

                        Showing                                                        from full soft


Sportrider.com 

#5
My '12 owner's manuel says 36/42 psi and I've noticed that the tires are sensitive to pressure. I've taken to run 45 in the stock Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart tires and that looose feeling isn't there. I use the above suspension.
#6

Ah, all excellent information. Thanks all! I will do that tonight. Might be able to get out and right tomorrow afternoon on a nice curvy road and just run up and down it while dialing in theses things. All I should need is an adjustable wrench and a screwdriver, correct?

#7
Something else that took some time for me tobget used to was the transition from chain drive "squat" to shaft drive where it wants to raise the rear end.
#8
I was thinking about that too, but I have no experience to draw on there. That being said, it felt like a horizontal movement and not vertical

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#9

Remember that when leaned, vertical becomes horizontal.

#10

Aw crap... good point. Now I'll really need to play close attention to figure this out. 

still, I will tinker with the settings first. Thanks for pointing that out f3racer & gswanson

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