Wtf Is A Fusar? Group Buy

It is pronounced FYOO SAR but what is it?

I have been following the development of FUSAR for more than a year. It is a game changer. Click on the link below to watch some videos of the capabilities of the product then click back to VFRD.

http://www.fusar.com/

I've already pre-ordered my full smart helmet kit on their Indiegogo page, a rewards based crowd-funding portal that they launched on Tuesday.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fusar-mohawk-make-any-helmet-smart/x/12782519#/

Although they hit their initial fundraising goal on their first day, VFRD members have the opportunity to save 25-45% off of the full price of the product!

How does it work?

Click through at the Indiegogo link above. Look down the right side of the page and see the featured $299 Smart Helmet Kit (early bird special). We will create a group buy for this product. At the single unit $299 you are saving 45%. If we get 5 buyers committed and paid the cost is less. 5 x $299 = $1,495 but that creates what they call a Wolfpack kit and the net price for 5 is $1,199.00 bringing the cost per person to $239.80! All prices are plus shipping.

What if we get to 10 committed to purchase? That becomes a dealer pack at $2,099.00 and a net of $209.90 each!

When you see this kit at your local parts/equipment supply in the fall of 2016, each kit will retail for $549 each and you will wish you had known about it earlier.

To reiterate, I am not affiliated with FUSAR but think this is a game changer. It is interuptive technology that Sena, Scala, GoPro even Garmin will have to scramble to compete with.

PM me if you have any questions you don't want to post here.

CornerCarver

EDIT-

We have now reached the 10 unit paid order and have had a special link set up for VFRD members to access that will allow all orders moving forward to be placed at the already achieved sicount of $210 each.

Follow the link set up by Ryan Shearman of FUSAR for VFRD members below.

"Sounds good to me. I've gone ahead and created a direct contribution link. Anyone that has been a member on vfrdiscussion for longer than me is eligible to use it. Indiegogo does not support anything but full dollar amounts, so this link will check you out for $210. Please add your name to the group buy list if you use this link.

http://bit.ly/VFR-GROUP-BUY

In for Group Buy
1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID
6-7 gmtech94 PAID
8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID

10 adeyren PAID "

This is really interesting. The hand grip mounted switch is very cool. Look at what you want and capture or video it.

I watched the video and looked through all the material on the link (I think . . . I'll check again), but I didn't see anything mentioning any type of subscription (I'm thinking like SPOT). Is it correct that the price is for the unit, and it synchs to a smart phone via an app so the only ongoing charges are for the phone's data plan? I agree that this could really disrupt the competition. GoPro stock has already been cratering . . .

Some clown suggest these could be good so I bought one.

Sounds great and see how it works next year.

Cogswell

This is really interesting. The hand grip mounted switch is very cool. Look at what you want and capture or video it.

I watched the video and looked through all the material on the link (I think . . . I'll check again), but I didn't see anything mentioning any type of subscription (I'm thinking like SPOT). Is it correct that the price is for the unit, and it synchs to a smart phone via an app so the only ongoing charges are for the phone's data plan? I agree that this could really disrupt the competition. GoPro stock has already been cratering . . .

That is how I read it as well. Cloud based chat via bluetooth at any distance.

Baileyrock

Some clown suggest these could be good so I bought one.

Sounds great and see how it works next year.

Hopefully I can hack your secret test footage and figure out what makes you so smooth in the mountains. :-)

Since the major retailer came in and completed the 30 day funding goal at the end of day one FUSAR have raised the bar and promise an upgraded image sensor (16mp v 12mp ) if they hit $250k in funding before the end of the 30 day campaign.

I've just e-mailed the owner with a couple of questions.

I realise you can chat using this system but how would it work with my wife and her Sena SMH-10? And I use in-ear speakers (Westone UM1s) and would not want to go back to in-helmet speakers so was asking about compatibility.

Should probably have asked whether all the features would work in the UK/Europe too.

I'll await his reply but am definitely interested.

edit: shall also ask what happens when you have no phone/data signal....there are still plenty of places like that.

You  have  to  have  cell  coverage in  order  to "push to talk". Where  I  ride  no  cell coverage BUT I  do like the  blue tooth  to smart phone app.

Switchblade

You have to have cell coverage in order to "push to talk". Where I ride no cell coverage BUT I do like the blue tooth to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

My big thing is that they don't have a working model. I'll believe it when I see it. Too many of these crowdfunded startups go bust or deliver mediocre goods.

Would also mean I'd have to get a smartphone, and that's never going to happen.

The other interesting thing was that they are working with Flextronics. I did a good chunk of work for them a couple years ago. Wonder if they know anything about this.

I was cured of EAS* many years ago.

*Early Adopters Syndrome.

You  have  to  have  cell  coverage in  order  to "push to talk". Where  I  ride  no  cell coverage BUT I  do like the  blue tooth  to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

Yep .

YoshiHNS

My big thing is that they don't have a working model. I'll believe it when I see it. Too many of these crowdfunded startups go bust or deliver mediocre goods.

Would also mean I'd have to get a smartphone, and that's never going to happen.

The other interesting thing was that they are working with Flextronics. I did a good chunk of work for them a couple years ago. Wonder if they know anything about this.

Seriously? You guys are putting money down on something that doesn't even exist yet? Don't forget about that drone company that just went under with $3.5 million of kickstarter funds.

I'm a little disappointed in the short predicted battery life of just over two hours if i remember correctly. It can be wired for power, but that kind of beat the idea of wireless.

Good enough for track days though.

FJ12Ryder

YoshiHNS

My big thing is that they don't have a working model. I'll believe it when I see it. Too many of these crowdfunded startups go bust or deliver mediocre goods.

Would also mean I'd have to get a smartphone, and that's never going to happen.

The other interesting thing was that they are working with Flextronics. I did a good chunk of work for them a couple years ago. Wonder if they know anything about this.

Seriously? You guys are putting money down on something that doesn't even exist yet? Don't forget about that drone company that just went under with $3.5 million of kickstarter funds.

Hey guys - Ryan Shearman, founder of Fusar, checking in here to provide some clarity.

We do have numerous working units already, and all of our launch features are currently functional. We've gone through three generations of prototypes and will be receiving our first pre-production samples from our manufacturing partners close to the end of this year. Our team is comprised of experienced product developers with proven track records of delivering world class products.

If you're in the NYC area, we encourage your to come visit us at the International Motorcycle Show at the Javitz Center in NYC from December 11-13, 2015. We'll be demoing all weekend.

Baileyrock

I'm a little disappointed in the short predicted battery life of just over two hours if i remember correctly. It can be wired for power, but that kind of beat the idea of wireless.

Good enough for track days though.

With only the basic features enabled, we've seen Mohawk run for over 4 hours on a single charge. Our headset will get up to 10 hours of use, and the remote controls get up to 1 year of use. Mohawk can be plugged in if your motorcycle/ATV/snowmobile has onboard power. This is the ideal configuration for full-day use.

Switchblade

Skids

Switchblade

You have to have cell coverage in order to "push to talk". Where I ride no cell coverage BUT I do like the blue tooth to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

Yep .

No, our BT headset also supports direct peer-to-peer connectivity, so you do not lose connection when outside of cell coverage.

rtshearman

Baileyrock

I'm a little disappointed in the short predicted battery life of just over two hours if i remember correctly. It can be wired for power, but that kind of beat the idea of wireless.

Good enough for track days though.

With only the basic features enabled, we've seen Mohawk run for over 4 hours on a single charge. Our headset will get up to 10 hours of use, and the remote controls get up to 1 year of use. Mohawk can be plugged in if your motorcycle/ATV/snowmobile has onboard power. This is the ideal configuration for full-day use.

Switchblade

Hey Ryan, thanks for joining us here at VFRD and chiming in on your product. :beer:

My avg. ride is 4-6 hrs of twisties now and longer as weather gets nicer and I have been updating all devices on the bike to get ride of all cables & wires attached to me. Wireless Scala headset, Garmin Bluetooth and H.A.R.D device for my V1 radar detector so the idea of Plugging back in is Not high on my list, but I am attracted to your system.

After reading the advertising " the Mohawk is a device that turns any helmet into a smart helmet. It's an action camera, communications system, navigation unit, and emergency response system all rolled into one - and it's available for pre-order for just $199." I assumed that this would include the headset in order to be a "communications system", but maybe I misunderstood.

Thanks again for coming to VFRD.

BR

Thanks for the heads-up that there are actual working models out there. Not for me but I'm sure there's a waiting market. Good luck.

Like I said, I am not working for FUSAR but have been following them for more than a year. I applied to be one of the beta test group. I have used just about every communication, navigation, camera, or audio input device made over the past two decades.

On a shelf in my garage right now I have two Autocomm systems that I removed from my VFR to buy a Chatterbox system 8-9 years ago. The Autocomms are still the best at rider to passenger comms. The Chatterbox was removed within 40 miles as they are functionally obsolete above 35-40 MPH.

I was an early adopter of Scala's (I have four G4's and 2 G9 currently gathering dust if anyone wants to play with those) and moved over to a pair of Sena 20s units to lead the Ducati demo rides in GA this summer. Better than Scala but not quite there yet.

I currently have a couple of Garmoin Zumo's (550 and 665) for all the good they do me sometimes. I would testify in court that there is no possible way that any employee of either Scala or Garmin actually rides a motorcycle for anything other than a commute. The stupidy of their default settings coupled with the inability to switch off features like "radio" astound me. I can be having an innocuous conversation and then hear the Scala say in that voice "radio on" and just want to ram my bike into a bridge abutment.

I have a Valentine1 that I don't use on the bike as much anymore but have a Sony action cam, a GoPro HD and a Countor HD cam as well that I hauled to Europe for my MotoGP trip last fall.

I get that many are not early adopters and I lean more cutting edge than bleeding edge but I really think that a modular group of accessories made by a manufacturer who actually rides and uses the gear can replace three or four items that I normally haul on trips and simplify the vast assortment of charging connections and usb cables that never seem to be the one I am looking for.

Like BailyRock I see the low battery life a limiting factor in the first gen production units and am weighing the need to wire something to a charging cable while riding versus not having to wade through a separate bag of cables and plugs when I get to the hotel.

I am blessed to be able to ride frequently and even more blessed to be able to do so with my sons, wife and many great VFRD'ers (some of whom are my friends :goofy: ) so I do spend more than most people on gizmos and gadgets.

Don't feel compelled to support this or anything else I praise but I wouldn't feel like I had done my part if I thought you guys might be interested in something and I kept it to myself.

I imagine horror stories like the British drone company failure and the apparently soon to be/continuing horror story around the Skully helmet may have poisoned the well for some of us when it comes to this sort of thing.

Subscribed. I like the 2 minute capture feature in the event of an accident. That could really come in handy with today's distracted drivers.

My main concerns were loss of intercom with my pillion when out of cell coverage, but that seems to have been addressed already but is it a seamless change or would you connect via BT direct to pillion regardless? Secondly is battery life; I ride ~1hr to and ~1hr from work each day so an overnight charge should cover that but when I'm out at the weekends with my wife & friends, it's 8hrs+ in the saddle and to me the whole point of wireless is that it's, well, wire-less.

So I'm not going to invest several hundred £/$ at this stage to get something that doesn't work for my needs and then have to fork out more cash later to upgrade when the battery life gets extended.

Sorry.

But best of luck with the development and when it's fully sorted, I shall probably be a customer.

Definitely intrigued. I'm looking at the Sena 10c and this looks to be somewhat comparable in terms of features, with a few additions. The early adopter price is better for this set than the Sena, but once it hits retail phase it looks to be a couple hundred more. Have you tried the Sena yet Keith, and if so, what do you think of it? I don't mind the charging on the go if the fusar delivers what it claims to.

Thanks for the heads up, I may be in for a couple units.

I haven't tried the Sena 10c and had to be dragged to the 20s Sena after wanting to toss my Scalas across the street while waiting on a friend to have lunch in Copper Hill, TN a few months ago.

I knew the FUSAR was on the horizon or I would have tried the Sena system.

My big thing is that they don't have a working model. I'll believe it when I see it. Too many of these crowdfunded startups go bust or deliver mediocre goods.

Would also mean I'd have to get a smartphone, and that's never going to happen.

The other interesting thing was that they are working with Flextronics. I did a good chunk of work for them a couple years ago. Wonder if they know anything about this.

Seriously? You guys are putting money down on something that doesn't even exist yet? Don't forget about that drone company that just went under with $3.5 million of kickstarter funds.

Hey guys - Ryan Shearman, founder of Fusar, checking in here to provide some clarity.

We do have numerous working units already, and all of our launch features are currently functional. We've gone through three generations of prototypes and will be receiving our first pre-production samples from our manufacturing partners close to the end of this year. Our team is comprised of experienced product developers with proven track records of delivering world class products.

If you're in the NYC area, we encourage your to come visit us at the International Motorcycle Show at the Javitz Center in NYC from December 11-13, 2015. We'll be demoing all weekend.

I'm a little disappointed in the short predicted battery life of just over two hours if i remember correctly. It can be wired for power, but that kind of beat the idea of wireless.

Good enough for track days though. 

With only the basic features enabled, we've seen Mohawk run for over 4 hours on a single charge. Our headset will get up to 10 hours of use, and the remote controls get up to 1 year of use. Mohawk can be plugged in if your motorcycle/ATV/snowmobile has onboard power. This is the ideal configuration for full-day use.

You  have  to  have  cell  coverage in  order  to "push to talk". Where  I  ride  no  cell coverage BUT I  do like the  blue tooth  to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

Yep .

No, our BT headset also supports direct peer-to-peer connectivity, so you do not lose connection when outside of cell coverage.

According  to there  web site .

Our cloud-based push-to-talk communication feature enables up to 12 users to chat walkie-talkie style, over any distance. You can use the FUSAR F7 Bluetooth headset or any 3rd party Bluetooth headset that syncs to iOS and Android devices

You  have  to  have  cell  coverage in  order  to "push to talk". Where  I  ride  no  cell coverage BUT I  do like the  blue tooth  to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

Yep .

Ryan,

Does  the F7  unit come  with  the   packages  or  is  it  separate . 

F7  unit  links  thru  a  smart phone correct ?

One  other  thing  I  need  mention is  the  noise  from  the  device mounted  on  your  helmet .  A lot  of  my  helmets  air  intake  are  right  at  the  Fusar  mounting  area  and  I  have  to  believe  it  will  cause  noise.

I  like  the  concept  .

Switchblade

Does the $199 package come with the F7 ?

David, Which package are you looking at that iis shown at $199 on the link I posted in the first post?

Does  the  $199 package  come  with  the F7 ?

David, Which package are you looking at that iis shown at $199 on the link I posted in the first post?

Yeah  does it come with the F7 unit ?

From what i understand the $199 pkg doesn't include the F7, but the $299 lit does.

I know the $299 smart helmet kit has the F7 and if we hit 10 people on this group buy that smart helmet kit will only be $209.99 so it's like getting the F7 at no cost.

I will check with the FUSAR guy who helped me set up the link page to see if anyone has ordered and how close we are to additional discounts.

zeer0

Definitely intrigued. I'm looking at the Sena 10c and this looks to be somewhat comparable in terms of features, with a few additions. The early adopter price is better for this set than the Sena, but once it hits retail phase it looks to be a couple hundred more. Have you tried the Sena yet Keith, and if so, what do you think of it? I don't mind the charging on the go if the fusar delivers what it claims to.

Thanks for the heads up, I may be in for a couple units.

I just went back to review the Sena 10c and comapre the specs as it is hte only thing that is remotely similar to the FUSAR...

General Features:

Talk time: 17 hours

Recording time: 2 hours

Operating temperature: -10˚C ~ 55˚C (14°F ~ 131°F)

Dimensions

Main module: 107 mm x 60 mm x 31 mm ( 4.2 in x 2.4 in x 1.2 in)

Speaker: driver unit 36 mm – thickness 6.5 mm

Boom microphone length: 190 mm

Wire length between speakers: 555 mm

Weight (module): 94 g (3.32 oz)

Bluetooth:

Bluetooth 4.0

Headset Profile (HSP)

Hands-Free Profile (HFP)

Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)

Audio Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)

Intercom:

Working distance (intercom): up to 1.6 kilometers (1.0 mile) in open terrain

Audio:

Built-in SBC Codec

Advanced Noise Control

Wide volume control

Sample rate: max. 48kHz (DAC)

Built-in wide band Codec (HFP)

Sample rate: max 16 kHz

Optical:

Field of view: 125 degrees

Aperture f/2.0

Video Mode:

Resolution

1080p 30fps

720p 60fps

Photo Mode:

Resolution: 3.5MP (3:2)

Burst shot: 10 pics

Timelapse Mode:

Photo & Video

Single pic per 1 / 10 secs

Clearly the camera in the Sena is lacking (3.5mp compared to either a 12 or 16mp depending on the funding results) and the resolution in record mode of the FUSAR will be superior but not until the first firmware upgrade (1080p at 60fps).

The battery life of the Sena is about the same as the FUSAR when recording but appears to be greater when just used in comms mode.

Battery life using video is the main issue for me. Two hours is a joke. Until someone solves that, my money is staying in my pocket.

Ciao,

JZH

Battery life using video is the main issue for me. Two hours is a joke. Until someone solves that, my money is staying in my pocket.

Ciao,

What are the contour and gopro battery lives at? I'm pretty sure the contour is only rated between 2-4 as well, though some models have swappable batteries. The GoPros are even worse. Maybe 2 hrs. max.

I have no interest in filming my journeys, but I do have an interest in the capture of the approaching accident I didn't know was coming. I wonder if the battery requirement is the same for recording all the time vs only recording if there is a rapid deceleration? It probably is the same but just wondered if battery life could be extended by not permanently recording the scene.

It is the emergency features of this kit that interests me and so it would need to be active for the whole of my journey, which could be 8 hours or more.

As JZH says, when it can do that on battery power alone, I'll buy one.

Baileyrock

Hey Ryan, thanks for joining us here at VFRD and chiming in on your product. :beer:

My avg. ride is 4-6 hrs of twisties now and longer as weather gets nicer and I have been updating all devices on the bike to get ride of all cables & wires attached to me. Wireless Scala headset, Garmin Bluetooth and H.A.R.D device for my V1 radar detector so the idea of Plugging back in is Not high on my list, but I am attracted to your system.

After reading the advertising " the Mohawk is a device that turns any helmet into a smart helmet. It's an action camera, communications system, navigation unit, and emergency response system all rolled into one - and it's available for pre-order for just $199." I assumed that this would include the headset in order to be a "communications system", but maybe I misunderstood.

Thanks again for coming to VFRD.

BR

Hey BR - thanks for the kind words! I was super busy yesterday so I didn't get a chance to chime in on the conversation, but I'm going to try and do that now.

The F7 headset is included in the communications perk ($99) as well as the full smart helmet kit perk ($349).

Shinigami

I imagine horror stories like the British drone company failure and the apparently soon to be/continuing horror story around the Skully helmet may have poisoned the well for some of us when it comes to this sort of thing.

We're right there with you on that. Unlike the founders of Skully, our entire team is comprised of experienced product guys who have brought products to market. This has helped us accurately project our timelines and costs, and gives us confidence that we will be able to deliver.

Skids

My main concerns were loss of intercom with my pillion when out of cell coverage, but that seems to have been addressed already but is it a seamless change or would you connect via BT direct to pillion regardless? Secondly is battery life; I ride ~1hr to and ~1hr from work each day so an overnight charge should cover that but when I'm out at the weekends with my wife & friends, it's 8hrs+ in the saddle and to me the whole point of wireless is that it's, well, wire-less.

So I'm not going to invest several hundred £/$ at this stage to get something that doesn't work for my needs and then have to fork out more cash later to upgrade when the battery life gets extended.

Sorry.

But best of luck with the development and when it's fully sorted, I shall probably be a customer.

This is great input, thanks! I have to ask, would a replaceable battery sway you?

Switchblade

rtshearman

FJ12Ryder

YoshiHNS

My big thing is that they don't have a working model. I'll believe it when I see it. Too many of these crowdfunded startups go bust or deliver mediocre goods.

Would also mean I'd have to get a smartphone, and that's never going to happen.

The other interesting thing was that they are working with Flextronics. I did a good chunk of work for them a couple years ago. Wonder if they know anything about this.

Seriously? You guys are putting money down on something that doesn't even exist yet? Don't forget about that drone company that just went under with $3.5 million of kickstarter funds.

Hey guys - Ryan Shearman, founder of Fusar, checking in here to provide some clarity.

We do have numerous working units already, and all of our launch features are currently functional. We've gone through three generations of prototypes and will be receiving our first pre-production samples from our manufacturing partners close to the end of this year. Our team is comprised of experienced product developers with proven track records of delivering world class products.

If you're in the NYC area, we encourage your to come visit us at the International Motorcycle Show at the Javitz Center in NYC from December 11-13, 2015. We'll be demoing all weekend.

Baileyrock

I'm a little disappointed in the short predicted battery life of just over two hours if i remember correctly. It can be wired for power, but that kind of beat the idea of wireless.

Good enough for track days though.

With only the basic features enabled, we've seen Mohawk run for over 4 hours on a single charge. Our headset will get up to 10 hours of use, and the remote controls get up to 1 year of use. Mohawk can be plugged in if your motorcycle/ATV/snowmobile has onboard power. This is the ideal configuration for full-day use.

Switchblade

Skids

Switchblade

You have to have cell coverage in order to "push to talk". Where I ride no cell coverage BUT I do like the blue tooth to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

Yep .

No, our BT headset also supports direct peer-to-peer connectivity, so you do not lose connection when outside of cell coverage.

According to there web site .

Our cloud-based push-to-talk communication feature enables up to 12 users to chat walkie-talkie style, over any distance. You can use the FUSAR F7 Bluetooth headset or any 3rd party Bluetooth headset that syncs to iOS and Android devices

Switchblade

Skids

Switchblade

You have to have cell coverage in order to "push to talk". Where I ride no cell coverage BUT I do like the blue tooth to smart phone app.

So you'd lose intercom with your pillion when outside cell coverage???

Yep .

Ryan,

Does the F7 unit come with the packages or is it separate .

F7 unit links thru a smart phone correct ?

The F7 headset comes with the $99 communications package, as well as with the $349 smart helmet package. It links to our cloud-servers through your smartphone, OR links directly to another F7 in case you are outside of cell coverage. This takes a matter of seconds, and we're working hard to make it a completely seamless transition.

Skids

I have no interest in filming my journeys, but I do have an interest in the capture of the approaching accident I didn't know was coming. I wonder if the battery requirement is the same for recording all the time vs only recording if there is a rapid deceleration? It probably is the same but just wondered if battery life could be extended by not permanently recording the scene.

It is the emergency features of this kit that interests me and so it would need to be active for the whole of my journey, which could be 8 hours or more.

As JZH says, when it can do that on battery power alone, I'll buy one.

Disabling the black box feature is very effective at increasing the battery life. We've been extremely conservative on our published battery specs, but it's important to note that the Sena 10C battery is only 1700mAh and we're using a unit that's rated for 2400mAh.

Would a replaceable battery sway you?

You didn't ask me, but I will tell you that I carry two charged spares for my Sony Action Cam and would never consider any kind of recording unit that would not accept an affordable swappable spare battery. That is a deal maker/breaker on an item like this.

Two or three hours of battery life is a non issue if you can carry spares. But there's not a chance in hell I will run a cable to something attached to my helmet.

Edited to add: You deserve props for coming onto the forum to address these questions directly. I am pretty well known in my industry and would never post on a public forum on the topic- way too many mud wrestlers out there.

Definitely yes on the replaceable battery.

Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

rtshearman

Baileyrock

The F7 headset comes with the $99 communications package, as well as with the $349 smart helmet package. It links to our cloud-servers through your smartphone, OR links directly to another F7 in case you are outside of cell coverage. This takes a matter of seconds, and we're working hard to make it a completely seamless transition.

Skids

Skids

Thanks Ryan,

I think I did see the $299 smart pkg kit, but guessing those prices are gone now.

I decided not to spend another $99 for the F7 headset for an item i don't have yet and the fact that the Mohawk should sink with my current Scala Q2.

:beer:

Ryan, your kit offers 2 quite separate features; a communication facility and a recording one, which could be split into 2 (journey video & emergency actions).

My current kit (Sena SMH-10) offers me outstanding comms capability, pretty seamless and all-day capability. What I don't currently have but would like, is the ability to record the accident that I didn't know was coming (ie I don't want to record my whole ride just in case I have an accident) which your kit does very well and I really like the emergency services callout facility with geolocation. I know this kind of thing is available with apps such as Tasker but I have struggled to program that so i don't use it.

You mentioned disconnecting the black box but to me, this would be the essential capability your kit brings, so no, I don't want it disconnected just to give me longer-life comms (which I already have with the Sena).

Replaceable batteries are always preferable so you don't have to scrap the whole unit if the battery fails, but I wouldn't want to be stopping too often to replace one because it has run out of charge....Sod's Law says that the accident would occur just after the battery ran out of charge!

Sorry if any of this sounds negative, but you have an opening here to produce a seriously good piece of kit and are likely the first to bring it to market so I'm sure you want to get it right first time.

Anyway, JMHO.

Baileyrock

rtshearman

Baileyrock

I'm a little disappointed in the short predicted battery life of just over two hours if i remember correctly. It can be wired for power, but that kind of beat the idea of wireless.

Good enough for track days though.

With only the basic features enabled, we've seen Mohawk run for over 4 hours on a single charge. Our headset will get up to 10 hours of use, and the remote controls get up to 1 year of use. Mohawk can be plugged in if your motorcycle/ATV/snowmobile has onboard power. This is the ideal configuration for full-day use.

Switchblade

Hey Ryan, thanks for joining us here at VFRD and chiming in on your product. :beer:

My avg. ride is 4-6 hrs of twisties now and longer as weather gets nicer and I have been updating all devices on the bike to get ride of all cables & wires attached to me. Wireless Scala headset, Garmin Bluetooth and H.A.R.D device for my V1 radar detector so the idea of Plugging back in is Not high on my list, but I am attracted to your system.

After reading the advertising " the Mohawk is a device that turns any helmet into a smart helmet. It's an action camera, communications system, navigation unit, and emergency response system all rolled into one - and it's available for pre-order for just $199." I assumed that this would include the headset in order to be a "communications system", but maybe I misunderstood.

Thanks again for coming to VFRD.

BR

It's been a while since I've been on any car/motorcycle forum, but I used to be quite the regular on a few of them. Thanks for having me!

The $199 pricing did include the full kit, but that was just a limited time promotion. The full kit will retail for $549, but is still available on Indiegogo for $200 off MRSP, or $349. The kit includes Mohawk, a handlebar or wrist remote, and our F7 Bluetooth headset.

Regarding the battery life, we've decided to offer a small external battery that can be mounted directly to your helmet, behind Mohawk. It will have a small cable that plugs directly into the back of the Mohawk. This will be a small, aerodynamic, removable battery that you can use to extend the run-time of the system without needing any cables running up to your helmet. Our team is already working on the industrial design of the battery, and we should know what the power rating will be within the next 7-10 days. We think this is an elegant solution that preserves our waterproofing capabilities, while giving our users the ability to run the system all day long.

Shinigami

You didn't ask me, but I will tell you that I carry two charged spares for my Sony Action Cam and would never consider any kind of recording unit that would not accept an affordable swappable spare battery. That is a deal maker/breaker on an item like this.

Two or three hours of battery life is a non issue if you can carry spares. But there's not a chance in hell I will run a cable to something attached to my helmet.

Edited to add: You deserve props for coming onto the forum to address these questions directly. I am pretty well known in my industry and would never post on a public forum on the topic- way too many mud wrestlers out there.

Thanks for chiming in! This input has been great for our team. We struggled with the debate over whether the battery needed to be replaceable or not, and it appears the crowd has spoken :) As I mentioned above, we're pretty happy with the solution of using a small external battery that will mount to your helmet right behind Mohawk. You will be able to carry a few spares and extend the run-time as long as you need.

Skids

Ryan, your kit offers 2 quite separate features; a communication facility and a recording one, which could be split into 2 (journey video & emergency actions).

My current kit (Sena SMH-10) offers me outstanding comms capability, pretty seamless and all-day capability. What I don't currently have but would like, is the ability to record the accident that I didn't know was coming (ie I don't want to record my whole ride just in case I have an accident) which your kit does very well and I really like the emergency services callout facility with geolocation. I know this kind of thing is available with apps such as Tasker but I have struggled to program that so i don't use it.

You mentioned disconnecting the black box but to me, this would be the essential capability your kit brings, so no, I don't want it disconnected just to give me longer-life comms (which I already have with the Sena).

Replaceable batteries are always preferable so you don't have to scrap the whole unit if the battery fails, but I wouldn't want to be stopping too often to replace one because it has run out of charge....Sod's Law says that the accident would occur just after the battery ran out of charge!

Sorry if any of this sounds negative, but you have an opening here to produce a seriously good piece of kit and are likely the first to bring it to market so I'm sure you want to get it right first time.

Anyway, JMHO.

Didn't take any of it negatively - this is all great input! I agree that black box is a vital feature, and I know I will always have mine turned on. If you're happy with your Sena, you can still use it with our system. We'll just unlock some other features that it doesn't have out of the box, like our cloud-based comms.

What are your thoughts on the modular battery solution we're now proposing? If this is well received, we're definitely going to move forward with it.

rtshearman

Thanks for chiming in! This input has been great for our team. We struggled with the debate over whether the battery needed to be replaceable or not, and it appears the crowd has spoken :) As I mentioned above, we're pretty happy with the solution of using a small external battery that will mount to your helmet right behind Mohawk. You will be able to carry a few spares and extend the run-time as long as you need.

Skids

Ryan, your kit offers 2 quite separate features; a communication facility and a recording one, which could be split into 2 (journey video & emergency actions).

My current kit (Sena SMH-10) offers me outstanding comms capability, pretty seamless and all-day capability. What I don't currently have but would like, is the ability to record the accident that I didn't know was coming (ie I don't want to record my whole ride just in case I have an accident) which your kit does very well and I really like the emergency services callout facility with geolocation. I know this kind of thing is available with apps such as Tasker but I have struggled to program that so i don't use it.

You mentioned disconnecting the black box but to me, this would be the essential capability your kit brings, so no, I don't want it disconnected just to give me longer-life comms (which I already have with the Sena).

Replaceable batteries are always preferable so you don't have to scrap the whole unit if the battery fails, but I wouldn't want to be stopping too often to replace one because it has run out of charge....Sod's Law says that the accident would occur just after the battery ran out of charge!

Sorry if any of this sounds negative, but you have an opening here to produce a seriously good piece of kit and are likely the first to bring it to market so I'm sure you want to get it right first time.

Anyway, JMHO.

Didn't take any of it negatively - this is all great input! I agree that black box is a vital feature, and I know I will always have mine turned on. If you're happy with your Sena, you can still use it with our system. We'll just unlock some other features that it doesn't have out of the box, like our cloud-based comms.

What are your thoughts on the modular battery solution we're now proposing? If this is well received, we're definitely going to move forward with it.

Would this clip-on battery be in addition to an internally mounted one or is it the sole source of power? How heavy is the combined unit? And what is the likely running time of the comms/emergency features with this setup?

Thanks for discussing this on the site.

Ryan,

I have a couple of thoughts on this but first want to clarify the discussion I had with Clayton Patton of FUSAR prior to initiating this thread, either I misunderstood Clayton or he misunderstood my intent. This thread was started with the goal of providing FUSAR smart helmet kits at a decreasing price if we hit certain milestones in multiples of 5 or 10 to allow the members of VFRD to access your various multiple purchase discounts ( 5 unit Wolfpack or 10 unit Dealer Pack) to drive down the cost of being an early adopter and supporting FUSAR financially prior to production start up.

Can you or Clayton please confirm that we can still aggregate our purchases for decreased cost?

Secondly, I like the idea of having a replaceable battery and would support that but am open to the external battery reserve as well. Would it potentially attach with the same GoPro style mount or would it be supported by the Mohawk mount?

Thanks, Keith

CornerCarver

Ryan,

I have a couple of thoughts on this but first want to clarify the discussion I had with Clayton Patton of FUSAR prior to initiating this thread, either I misunderstood Clayton or he misunderstood my intent. This thread was started with the goal of providing FUSAR smart helmet kits at a decreasing price if we hit certain milestones in multiples of 5 or 10 to allow the members of VFRD to access your various multiple purchase discounts ( 5 unit Wolfpack or 10 unit Dealer Pack) to drive down the cost of being an early adopter and supporting FUSAR financially prior to production start up.

Can you or Clayton please confirm that we can still aggregate our purchases for decreased cost?

Secondly, I like the idea of having a replaceable battery and would support that but am open to the external battery reserve as well. Would it potentially attach with the same GoPro style mount or would it be supported by the Mohawk mount?

Thanks, Keith

I'm interested in both of these ideas... well, all three actually. Group buying discounts, replaceable battery, and an external "booster" battery to increase usable time between charges or battery change outs.

Skids

rtshearman

Thanks for chiming in! This input has been great for our team. We struggled with the debate over whether the battery needed to be replaceable or not, and it appears the crowd has spoken :) As I mentioned above, we're pretty happy with the solution of using a small external battery that will mount to your helmet right behind Mohawk. You will be able to carry a few spares and extend the run-time as long as you need.

Skids

Ryan, your kit offers 2 quite separate features; a communication facility and a recording one, which could be split into 2 (journey video & emergency actions).

My current kit (Sena SMH-10) offers me outstanding comms capability, pretty seamless and all-day capability. What I don't currently have but would like, is the ability to record the accident that I didn't know was coming (ie I don't want to record my whole ride just in case I have an accident) which your kit does very well and I really like the emergency services callout facility with geolocation. I know this kind of thing is available with apps such as Tasker but I have struggled to program that so i don't use it.

You mentioned disconnecting the black box but to me, this would be the essential capability your kit brings, so no, I don't want it disconnected just to give me longer-life comms (which I already have with the Sena).

Replaceable batteries are always preferable so you don't have to scrap the whole unit if the battery fails, but I wouldn't want to be stopping too often to replace one because it has run out of charge....Sod's Law says that the accident would occur just after the battery ran out of charge!

Sorry if any of this sounds negative, but you have an opening here to produce a seriously good piece of kit and are likely the first to bring it to market so I'm sure you want to get it right first time.

Anyway, JMHO.

Didn't take any of it negatively - this is all great input! I agree that black box is a vital feature, and I know I will always have mine turned on. If you're happy with your Sena, you can still use it with our system. We'll just unlock some other features that it doesn't have out of the box, like our cloud-based comms.

What are your thoughts on the modular battery solution we're now proposing? If this is well received, we're definitely going to move forward with it.

Would this clip-on battery be in addition to an internally mounted one or is it the sole source of power? How heavy is the combined unit? And what is the likely running time of the comms/emergency features with this setup?

Thanks for discussing this on the site.

Yes, the clip-on would be in addition to the internal battery. We're still investigating different battery sizes, so I'll have to get back to you on the weight of the combined unit sometime in the next week or so. The likely run-time with every single feature enabled is at least 2.5 hours, but it's important to note that there aren't many use cases where you'll be using every single feature at the same time :)

CornerCarver

Ryan,

I have a couple of thoughts on this but first want to clarify the discussion I had with Clayton Patton of FUSAR prior to initiating this thread, either I misunderstood Clayton or he misunderstood my intent. This thread was started with the goal of providing FUSAR smart helmet kits at a decreasing price if we hit certain milestones in multiples of 5 or 10 to allow the members of VFRD to access your various multiple purchase discounts ( 5 unit Wolfpack or 10 unit Dealer Pack) to drive down the cost of being an early adopter and supporting FUSAR financially prior to production start up.

Can you or Clayton please confirm that we can still aggregate our purchases for decreased cost?

Secondly, I like the idea of having a replaceable battery and would support that but am open to the external battery reserve as well. Would it potentially attach with the same GoPro style mount or would it be supported by the Mohawk mount?

Thanks, Keith

Yes, we're definitely going to aggregate the purchases! The easiest way to do it would be if you guys were to pool your money and have one person go through with the transaction, but we can handle individual payments also. Once we know how many are ordered, we'll process refunds to everyone for the difference in price.

The external battery is a lot more likely than a replaceable battery at this juncture. Our current concept is that it will mount directly to the helmet surface using either hook and loop or a quick-release clip similar to, but smaller than the GoPro mount.

rtshearman

It's been a while since I've been on any car/motorcycle forum, but I used to be quite the regular on a few of them. Thanks for having me!

The $199 pricing did include the full kit, but that was just a limited time promotion. The full kit will retail for $549, but is still available on Indiegogo for $200 off MRSP, or $349. The kit includes Mohawk, a handlebar or wrist remote, and our F7 Bluetooth headset.

Regarding the battery life, we've decided to offer a small external battery that can be mounted directly to your helmet, behind Mohawk. It will have a small cable that plugs directly into the back of the Mohawk. This will be a small, aerodynamic, removable battery that you can use to extend the run-time of the system without needing any cables running up to your helmet. Our team is already working on the industrial design of the battery, and we should know what the power rating will be within the next 7-10 days. We think this is an elegant solution that preserves our waterproofing capabilities, while giving our users the ability to run the system all day long.

Shinigami

OK then, I bought into that offering by putting down a $50 deposit towards the special full kit $199 offer before you guys went public and before that national parts distributor support came in ($199 pricing did include the full kit) so at time of production runs next year I should be receive the full kit w/F7. That is what I was looking for, but all that info & offerings disappeared after you went public.

Thanks Ryan

rtshearman

CornerCarver

Ryan,

I have a couple of thoughts on this but first want to clarify the discussion I had with Clayton Patton of FUSAR prior to initiating this thread, either I misunderstood Clayton or he misunderstood my intent. This thread was started with the goal of providing FUSAR smart helmet kits at a decreasing price if we hit certain milestones in multiples of 5 or 10 to allow the members of VFRD to access your various multiple purchase discounts ( 5 unit Wolfpack or 10 unit Dealer Pack) to drive down the cost of being an early adopter and supporting FUSAR financially prior to production start up.

Can you or Clayton please confirm that we can still aggregate our purchases for decreased cost?

Secondly, I like the idea of having a replaceable battery and would support that but am open to the external battery reserve as well. Would it potentially attach with the same GoPro style mount or would it be supported by the Mohawk mount?

Thanks, Keith

Yes, we're definitely going to aggregate the purchases! The easiest way to do it would be if you guys were to pool your money and have one person go through with the transaction, but we can handle individual payments also. Once we know how many are ordered, we'll process refunds to everyone for the difference in price.

The external battery is a lot more likely than a replaceable battery at this juncture. Our current concept is that it will mount directly to the helmet surface using either hook and loop or a quick-release clip similar to, but smaller than the GoPro mount.

Am in for a group purchase.

Baileyrock

rtshearman

It's been a while since I've been on any car/motorcycle forum, but I used to be quite the regular on a few of them. Thanks for having me!

The $199 pricing did include the full kit, but that was just a limited time promotion. The full kit will retail for $549, but is still available on Indiegogo for $200 off MRSP, or $349. The kit includes Mohawk, a handlebar or wrist remote, and our F7 Bluetooth headset.

Regarding the battery life, we've decided to offer a small external battery that can be mounted directly to your helmet, behind Mohawk. It will have a small cable that plugs directly into the back of the Mohawk. This will be a small, aerodynamic, removable battery that you can use to extend the run-time of the system without needing any cables running up to your helmet. Our team is already working on the industrial design of the battery, and we should know what the power rating will be within the next 7-10 days. We think this is an elegant solution that preserves our waterproofing capabilities, while giving our users the ability to run the system all day long.

Shinigami

OK then, I bought into that offering by putting down a $50 deposit towards the special full kit $199 offer before you guys went public and before that national parts distributor support came in ($199 pricing did include the full kit) so at time of production runs next year I should be receive the full kit w/F7. That is what I was looking for, but all that info & offerings disappeared after you went public.

Thanks Ryan

Hey BR - if you placed a $50 deposit to lock in the $199 promotional pricing, then you should have received an email with your own special checkout link. We couldn't list that offer on the Indiegogo page, otherwise it would have been available to the general public. Simply click the custom link we sent and it will take you straight to a custom contribution page. Once you pay the $149 balance, your order will be complete. If you need us to resend the link, shoot an email to sales@fusar.com and we'll send it over right away.

adeyren

rtshearman

CornerCarver

Ryan,

I have a couple of thoughts on this but first want to clarify the discussion I had with Clayton Patton of FUSAR prior to initiating this thread, either I misunderstood Clayton or he misunderstood my intent. This thread was started with the goal of providing FUSAR smart helmet kits at a decreasing price if we hit certain milestones in multiples of 5 or 10 to allow the members of VFRD to access your various multiple purchase discounts ( 5 unit Wolfpack or 10 unit Dealer Pack) to drive down the cost of being an early adopter and supporting FUSAR financially prior to production start up.

Can you or Clayton please confirm that we can still aggregate our purchases for decreased cost?

Secondly, I like the idea of having a replaceable battery and would support that but am open to the external battery reserve as well. Would it potentially attach with the same GoPro style mount or would it be supported by the Mohawk mount?

Thanks, Keith

Yes, we're definitely going to aggregate the purchases! The easiest way to do it would be if you guys were to pool your money and have one person go through with the transaction, but we can handle individual payments also. Once we know how many are ordered, we'll process refunds to everyone for the difference in price.

The external battery is a lot more likely than a replaceable battery at this juncture. Our current concept is that it will mount directly to the helmet surface using either hook and loop or a quick-release clip similar to, but smaller than the GoPro mount.

Am in for a group purchase.

Sounds great! Perhaps we can keep a running tally?

In for group buy

1. adeyren

Put me on the group buy list please. Thanks

rtshearman

Sounds great! Perhaps we can keep a running tally?

In for group buy

1. adeyren
2. zeer0

Are we looking at the WolfPack or DealerPack Discounts?

What does a pillion need to have to communicate with the pilot... a whole complete kit or the $99 F7?

I didn't read the whole web page, sorry... when will they be available?

Personally, my participation in a group buy is predicated on the answers...

Rush2112

rtshearman

Sounds great! Perhaps we can keep a running tally?

In for group buy

1. adeyren
2. zeer0

Are we looking at the WolfPack or DealerPack Discounts?

What does a pillion need to have to communicate with the pilot... a whole complete kit or the $99 F7?

I didn't read the whole web page, sorry... when will they be available?

Personally, my participation in a group buy is predicated on the answers...

The applicable discount will be based on the total number of forum members that order. The $99 package is suitable for a pillion, a 2nd Mohawk is not required. The F7 headset and handlebar control are expected to ship in Q1 2016 and Mohawk is expected to ship in Q3.

Hope this helps!

rtshearman

Rush2112

rtshearman

Sounds great! Perhaps we can keep a running tally?

In for group buy

1. adeyren
2. zeer0
3. Rush2112

Are we looking at the WolfPack or DealerPack Discounts?

What does a pillion need to have to communicate with the pilot... a whole complete kit or the $99 F7?

I didn't read the whole web page, sorry... when will they be available?

Personally, my participation in a group buy is predicated on the answers...

The applicable discount will be based on the total number of forum members that order. The $99 package is suitable for a pillion, a 2nd Mohawk is not required. The F7 headset and handlebar control are expected to ship in Q1 2016 and Mohawk is expected to ship in Q3.

Hope this helps!

Alright, count me in... CaptainCarver has been keepin' an eye on you and BR, the cheap bastage, has bought in there must be something worth getting in front on.. I'm in.

Besides... I can't resist a good group buy! :goofy:

Rush2112

rtshearman

Rush2112

rtshearman

Sounds great! Perhaps we can keep a running tally?

In for group buy

1. adeyren
2. zeer0
3. Rush2112

Are we looking at the WolfPack or DealerPack Discounts?

What does a pillion need to have to communicate with the pilot... a whole complete kit or the $99 F7?

I didn't read the whole web page, sorry... when will they be available?

Personally, my participation in a group buy is predicated on the answers...

The applicable discount will be based on the total number of forum members that order. The $99 package is suitable for a pillion, a 2nd Mohawk is not required. The F7 headset and handlebar control are expected to ship in Q1 2016 and Mohawk is expected to ship in Q3.

Hope this helps!

Alright, count me in... CaptainCarver has been keepin' an eye on you and BR, the cheap bastage, has bought in there must be something worth getting in front on.. I'm in.

Besides... I can't resist a good group buy! :goofy:

OK, I started our group buy off with a 5 Unit Wolfpack purchase (I actually purchased the Wolfpack before it went public and Clayton tells me that I am their first Wolfpack order) so we are working towards at least one dealer pack of ten.

So the group buy list looks like this:

In for group buy

Screen Name Status

1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID

6 adeyren

7 zeer0

8 Rush2112

Please copy and paste to add your name and indicate whether you completed the transaction through the link I provided to Indiegog on the first post of this thread.

the $299 option is sold out and will not let me select. how do join the group by?

Ah ooo ...

rescue

the $299 option is sold out and will not let me select. how do join the group by?

For the group buy here I think you just put yourself on the list and pricing will be based on how many orders we get.

Black Friday deals thru Monday, get 2 Smart helmet kits for $524.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fusar-mohawk-make-any-helmet-smart#/

Baileyrock

rescue

the $299 option is sold out and will not let me select. how do join the group by?

For the group buy here I think you just put yourself on the list and pricing will be based on how many orders we get.

Black Friday deals thru Monday, get 2 Smart helmet kits for $524.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fusar-mohawk-make-any-helmet-smart#/

This is correct. The Black Friday sale runs until midnight on Cyber Monday and is hands down the best deal we're going to extend.

Sign me up for the black friday sale .

Don't worry... they were all lookin' the other way...

I'm so excited!!! C'mon July... just in time for my birthday!

For the Crash Detection and Black Box features - I'm in for the dealer price.

Ryan (rtshearman), offering additional kits to VFRD members at the dealer price was the closer for me.

CC, many thank yous for starting this group buy - great technology for groups and especially lone riders.

Like Rush, with a July delivery, Happy Birthday to me!

.....do you need to add me to the list even though we've hit 10 before me?

VFRpwr

For the Crash Detection and Black Box features - I'm in for the dealer price.

Ryan (rtshearman), offering additional kits to VFRD members at the dealer price was the closer for me.

CC, many thank yous for starting this group buy - great technology for groups and especially lone riders.

Like Rush, with a July delivery, Happy Birthday to me!

.....do you need to add me to the list even though we've hit 10 before me?

Were you able to use the link with the Dealer pricing that Ryan posted earlier?

Yes, the 'special' link worked perfectly for the $210-USD dealer discount. Select link, Paypal, cha-ching, Done.

Effortless, easy, and simple enough for even me to use!

(no TMAC t-shirt option though - I looked :laugh2: )

rtshearman

Sounds good to me. I've gone ahead and created a direct contribution link. Anyone that has been a member on vfrdiscussion for longer than me is eligible to use it. Indiegogo does not support anything but full dollar amounts, so this link will check you out for $210. Please add your name to the group buy list if you use this link.

http://bit.ly/VFR-GROUP-BUY

In for Group Buy 1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID 6-7 gmtech94 PAID 8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID 10 adeyren PAID

http://bit.ly/VFR-GROUP-BUY

In for Group Buy

1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID

6-7 gmtech94 PAID

8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID

10 adeyren PAID

11 VFRpwr PAID

In for Group Buy
1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID
6-7 gmtech94 PAID
8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID
10 adeyren PAID
11 VFRpwr PAID
12 zeer0 -Jason PAID

Looks like 8 days remain on the fund raising site.

FUSAR has hit 176% of goal. If they get to 250% of goal they will upgrade the camera (from 12MP to 16MP).

In for Group Buy
1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID
6-7 gmtech94 PAID
8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID
10 adeyren PAID
11 VFRpwr PAID
12 zeer0 -Jason PAID

13-17 Pluseb0 PAID

Nice, another Wolfpack buyer!

Ok, I've paid for the camera and I'd like the handlebar controller please.

In for Group Buy
1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID
6-7 gmtech94 PAID
8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID
10 adeyren PAID
11 VFRpwr PAID
12 zeer0 -Jason PAID

13-17 Pluseb0 PAID

18 Skids PAID

rtshearman

If you're in the NYC area, we encourage your to come visit us at the International Motorcycle Show at the Javitz Center in NYC from December 11-13, 2015. We'll be demoing all weekend.

Doh! I was at the show today but missed this thread until just now of course. Would have liked to stopped by your booth to test things out. Very interesting. I recently bought a Sena 10C and was able to take it out and test once so far. I may have to jump in on this too.

Skids

Ok, I've paid for the camera and I'd like the handlebar controller please.

The handlebar controller is included in the kit you ordered so you're good to go!

tiki01

rtshearman

If you're in the NYC area, we encourage your to come visit us at the International Motorcycle Show at the Javitz Center in NYC from December 11-13, 2015. We'll be demoing all weekend.

Doh! I was at the show today but missed this thread until just now of course. Would have liked to stopped by your booth to test things out. Very interesting. I recently bought a Sena 10C and was able to take it out and test once so far. I may have to jump in on this too.

Do it! We're just under $200k with 5 days to go. If we hit the $250k mark, we're going to upgrade from the 12MP sensor to a 16MP sensor. Just saying... :)

Correct me if i am wrong but when i was into photography a lot more than i am now but its not the number of pixels that matter but the size of them ie as in a full frame camera. For instance my Go Pro Black Edition has a 12mp sensor and quality is perfectly acceptable. Just saying.

rtshearman

Skids

Ok, I've paid for the camera and I'd like the handlebar controller please.

The handlebar controller is included in the kit you ordered so you're good to go!

...

For those of us that purchased the Black Friday 2 set deal will they come with two handle bar controllers or one hb and one wrist controller?

I assume the wrist controller is designed for a passenger???

rtshearman

Skids

Ok, I've paid for the camera and I'd like the handlebar controller please.

The handlebar controller is included in the kit you ordered so you're good to go!

tiki01

rtshearman

If you're in the NYC area, we encourage your to come visit us at the International Motorcycle Show at the Javitz Center in NYC from December 11-13, 2015. We'll be demoing all weekend.

Doh! I was at the show today but missed this thread until just now of course. Would have liked to stopped by your booth to test things out. Very interesting. I recently bought a Sena 10C and was able to take it out and test once so far. I may have to jump in on this too.

Do it! We're just under $200k with 5 days to go. If we hit the $250k mark, we're going to upgrade from the 12MP sensor to a 16MP sensor. Just saying... :)

Your purchase link quoted either the handlebar or the wrist controller but there was no option to choose which one during the order process so I thought I'd better record it somewhere.

Rush2112

rtshearman

Skids

Ok, I've paid for the camera and I'd like the handlebar controller please.

The handlebar controller is included in the kit you ordered so you're good to go!

...

For those of us that purchased the Black Friday 2 set deal will they come with two handle bar controllers or one hb and one wrist controller?

I assume the wrist controller is designed for a passenger???

Some people ordered for passengers, others for their riding buddies, so we're going to give you that choice. As soon as the campaign concludes, we'll send out a form where you will have the option to choose. The wrist remote is great for passengers or for non-handlebar action sports like skiing/snowboarding/skateboarding/etc.

adeyren

Correct me if i am wrong but when i was into photography a lot more than i am now but its not the number of pixels that matter but the size of them ie as in a full frame camera. For instance my Go Pro Black Edition has a 12mp sensor and quality is perfectly acceptable. Just saying.

You're not far off. The difference between the 12MP unit we're working with now and the 16MP unit we want to upgrade to is more than just pixels. The latter is capable of 4K at certain framerates and performs better in low-light environments.

rtshearman

As soon as the campaign concludes, we'll send out a form where you will have the option to choose.

I am about to go away for a few months and will have limited internet access so if you don't hear back from me, I'll have the handlebar controller please.

Skids

In for Group Buy

1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID

6-7 gmtech94 PAID

8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID

10 adeyren PAID

11 VFRpwr PAID

12 zeer0 -Jason PAID

13-17 Pluseb0 PAID

18 Skids PAID

19 Cogswell PAID

I'm in for the buy - got to wondering if there's a reason a solo rider might also want the wrist controller as well as the handlebar mounted one. For example, wanting to take photos while dismounted or away from the bike (not planning on using this for comms purposes).

This ends tomorrow night...anyone else taken advantage and not on the list?

Would be good to have 20.

I assume we all got the link to Todd's near miss?

I could have done with the camera this morning, if only for the comical road-rage lady.

What the hell. I do like a gadget... :wink:

In for Group Buy

1-5 CornerCarver - Keith PAID
6-7 gmtech94 PAID
8-9 Rush2112 - Russ PAID
10 adeyren PAID
11 VFRpwr PAID
12 zeer0 -Jason PAID

13-17 Pluseb0 PAID

18 Skids PAID

19 Cogswell PAID

20 JZH PAID

Ciao,

Is there still time / room for 1 more?

I just sold off some of my radio controlled helicopters so I could get in on this (only way I can slip it past the wife - one hobby for another ... LOL)

The link is still active (post #72) - hard to say if they'll still accept it.

Mine was shipped via US Postal service, not FedEx or UPS.  Not sure if that affects international shipping times or not. 

Adeyren, My Fusar response came from Amy spelled with an "ie" (amie@fusar.com).

She mentioned their domestic shipments would complete this week and international (the rest of us schlebs) by end of next week (Fri Mar 18) +/- I'd expect.

I'll be looking in my mailbox no sooner than the end of the following week.

Adeyren, My Fusar response came from Amy spelled with an "ie" (amie@fusar.com).

She mentioned their domestic shipments would complete this week and international (the rest of us schlebs) by end of next week (Fri Mar 18) +/- I'd expect.

I'll be looking in my mailbox no sooner than the end of the following week.

Oh good, should be awaiting my return home then!  :beer:

Adeyren, My Fusar response came from Amy spelled with an "ie" (amie@fusar.com).

She mentioned their domestic shipments would complete this week and international (the rest of us schlebs) by end of next week (Fri Mar 18) +/- I'd expect.

I'll be looking in my mailbox no sooner than the end of the following week.

Mine has been shipped - in UK now. Even sent tracking info.They also refunded me $139 as i paid full price. Paid $220 in the end. 

Full credit to them   :beer:

I also received a refund for the difference between full price and our package deal.

Woohoo, swag arrived when I got home from this week.  Stylish FUSAR t-shirt now gives me two more days to extend laundry day.

Mine allowed me to demote two T-shirts with split seams and holes to shop rags.  :rolleyes:

3 hours ago, Switchblade

Sounds like sour grapes . :schla15:

"Sour grapes" for not giving money to a company for a product that has yet to appear? I don't think so.

CornerCarver, 2/12/2016 at 7:41 PM

Why would you hope that no money was sent to help develop and launch a product and provide those who funded it with a significant discount from MSRP when the product hits the stores?

Why is it not good?

They have been showing beta and later model test units at all the regional motorcycle shows as they finalize tooling for the case that will hold the new camera optics and some related hardware. Stop by a booth and check it out.

Are you two the type of guy who stands in front of the microwave tapping your foot waiting the instant popcorn to be done?

I guess it could be sour grapes that you didn't take advantage of the offer so you secretly hope that somehow the team that is bringing to market fails... *shrug* I don't get it.

?  me too .

Chill guys, I don't think there's any sour grapes here. It's all just our own opinions.

However, that quote above from OVER A YEAR ago with them showing beta models and working towards production simply highlights to me that they've either been unlucky or mismanaged. They must know they had a head start on the opposition (why else did we agree to crowd fund) but they've kinda missed the boat now and it's likely the camera will be nothing significant when it does appear. Easy to sit on the outside and complain, but I do wonder whether they could have done better.

Indeed. :beer:

In the meantime, I've gone and bought one of these, a Nextbase Ride. 1080p with 140 degree view, GPS logging and a deceleration sensor which protects the last section of footage. It's not small, but didn't cost very much off ebay and at least I have it NOW!

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44 minutes ago, Skids

Indeed. :beer:

In the meantime, I've gone and bought one of these, a Nextbase Ride. 1080p with 140 degree view, GPS logging and a deceleration sensor which protects the last section of footage. It's not small, but didn't cost very much off ebay and at least I have it NOW!

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Nice ..

Had this just land in my inbox.

Hello previous rider of the week,

Email received and response returned.  Send it on.

Any updates ?

Zilch, Jack ***t.

Well, there was a new video message last week...still no cameras, though...

Ciao,

Yep, still awaiting some vital updates to bring us the best experience or some other PR crap like that.

Just posted up a ride route into Wales today - with the comment "when's the camera due?" Ryans always posting and commenting on his rides, lets see if he comments on this. 

I got an email the other day saying they have fixed the “bugs” and are almost ready for production. WTH! I will be shocked if we ever receive what we were promised. But so goes the stories of crowdfunding. If we do eventually get the cameras, they’ll be obsolete.SMH.

Been waiting 2? years now. Agree, probably be obsolete if and when it arrives.  Ah well - like life -  it's a gamble  :unsure:

Lads, you got screwed.

Why pay a bit less for something that is not a product, just wait and pay a tad more for an actual product.

Nelix, 9/10/2017 at 4:26 PM

Lads, you got screwed.

Why pay a bit less for something that is not a product, just wait and pay a tad more for an actual product.

Any  more communications from headquarters ?

Funnily enough i looked on the Fusar Facebook page last night. Nothing but self congratulatory crap about how awesome the app is etc etc. Yeah right, I've got other apps that do the same thing. It will be two years in November since i bought into this and so far a useless handlebar control that is gathering dust somewhere is all i have - oh and a pair of blue framed sunglasses and tee shirt that i had to pay $25 import fees on. Apparently "some" cameras have been shipped in the States??

Posted a comment on their page asking when we will get delivery but no answer yet. 

https://www.facebook.com/fusartech/

Sena's Momentum Lite helmet (full face helmet with integrated bluetooth comm) arrives next month.  In early '18 the Momentum will also have a built in camera option. 

Skully is getting revived with a new financial backer and management team, sounds like they'll be delivering product to those who've backed them and/or bought helmets from the original company.

Wonder if that will happen before Fusar delivers...

3 minutes ago, Duc2V4

Skully is getting revived with a new financial backer and management team, sounds like they'll be delivering product to those who've backed them and/or bought helmets from the original company.

Wonder if that will happen before Fusar delivers...

Even with the backing, why would anyone ever possibly trust them again?  There is a really funny article on that subject (along with an even more hilarious pod cast) on Asphaltandrubber.com.   Fool me once... I would still want my damn money back.

Actually got a reply via their Facebook page.

"  Hi Ade - we do not have specific dates for delivery, however, we have been sending updates regarding our progress. Have you been receiving them?"

My reply will be "Of course i been fricking receiving them, non bloody stop. That's all i get are updates! "     :mad:  But no camera.  :mad:

38 minutes ago, deltaboxii

Even with the backing, why would anyone ever possibly trust them again?  There is a really funny article on that subject (along with an even more hilarious pod cast) on Asphaltandrubber.com.   Fool me once... I would still want my damn money back.

New team means NEW, the original owners (crooks) are not going to be involved, other than in the hand off stage. Seems there are people who are still hopeful to get what they ordered/supported...

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/skullys-new-coo-john-lauten-opens-up-about-the-companies-future

I get that its a new management team, but the sheer marketing stupidity is insane.  If its a new team, why not a new name?  Why have any association with the old company at all?  The tech is the same.  Skully (and now Fusar unfortuantely) have a poor reputation in the motorcycle community. 

Put another way, do you think that anyone would buy a Pinto or if another car company launched one today? 

3 hours ago, deltaboxii

I get that its a new management team, but the sheer marketing stupidity is insane.  If its a new team, why not a new name?  Why have any association with the old company at all?  The tech is the same.  Skully (and now Fusar unfortuantely) have a poor reputation in the motorcycle community. 

Put another way, do you think that anyone would buy a Pinto or if another car company launched one today? 

Read the article, the COO explains the reasoning about using the same name...I AM NOT PROMOTING SKULLY nor do I have any insight into the reasons why people do what they do, I’m just mentioning the fact they are back and that the new owners are trying to make good on the original promise. A lot of companies change management without changing the name, there are a number of reasons why one should or should not change a name but ultimately they are the ones who can answer that question not me.

Fusar are flogging helmets now! Going to get my order in, might get it in two years  :cheerleader:

https://fusar.com/collections/helmets?mc_cid=1903e8788f&mc_eid=d2996655d3

No one hear about NUVIZ ?

9 hours ago, adeyren

Fusar are flogging helmets now! Going to get my order in, might get it in two years  :cheerleader:

https://fusar.com/collections/helmets?mc_cid=1903e8788f&mc_eid=d2996655d3

Holy crap Batman, $600 for a 3/4 helmet. They should be able to get them made at that price point. Of course

whether anyone will buy a $600 3/4 helmet is another thing altogether.

New update.

Received the same.

Okay, I'm just wondering how their user base can be growing if they're not shipping product.

I'm not so sure "Customer Service" is their biggest priority since there are still customers with no service.

Ghostrider1127, 10/10/2017 at 8:54 PM

No one hear about NUVIZ ?

as above...

Is this thing dead ???????

Dead as a f****g dodo i reckon. Keep getting updates on how fantastic the app is ie rides, photos and self congrats and all that social media shite. . But no news of the camera!!!

The website says:

" NOTE: the FUSAR Camera will begin shipping in late 2017. "

Looks like they've got about a week.  Probably this time next year it will say ". . . shipping in late 2018".  The problem with this is that they hadn't gotten the product developed sufficiently before rolling out all the promises.  At this point, even if they did begin shipping it, the public will probably yawn, having already moved on.  Better to under promise and over deliver.  They've done the opposite.  They do offer a "30 day money back guarantee" - I don't suppose that applies to actually shipping the product . . .   Newp. 

On a more positive note, at least this thread has provided entertainment for several years now.

59 minutes ago, St. Stephen

On a more positive note, at least this thread has provided entertainment for several years now.

For some perhaps.  :mellow:

Skids, 12/27/2017 at 1:05 AM

For some perhaps.  :mellow:

 Sorry  for the continued  inquiries  ,  kinda hoping it would  get done.

Looks like there's a new kid on the block.   https://crosshelmet.com/

Now there sold out WTH ?

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adeyren, 1/15/2018 at 1:49 PM

Looks like there's a new kid on the block.   https://crosshelmet.com/

$599 up front and $1050  later,  dont think so .

Any news ?

i almost forgotten all about this camera

FUSAR: Anagram for Forgotten Untold Supporters Are Ripped-off

3 hours ago, N2v

Any news ?

i almost forgotten all about this camera

I was thinking that recently....no, no communications at all.

What a surprise. Bunch of wan*ers.

Switchblade, 3/14/2018 at 5:53 AM

Now there sold out WTH ?

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This is a bit confusing. How can a product be sold out if this is a pre-order? I was under the assumption that a

pre-order is an order in advance of actual production, and sales. I've been watching this product since it first

came to the attention of this forum, and so far it looks very much like vapor-ware. Has anyone actually gotten

their product from the initial offering of a couple years back?

Well, I think most people got the headset and the remote button unit...and some t-shirts...

Ciao,

A poxy tee shirt i had to pay £15 import duty on! WTF. I've  messaged their FBook page a couple of times. Nothing back except updates on their amazing rides. Who gives a f...s arse about that. Where's the bloody camera?

I bloody knew it !! Screwed. Bang goes my investment. 😂

Oh man, that sucks. But reaffirms my lack of faith in crowdfunding in general, since there is no

real responsibility on the part of the company, and no recourse by the funders(is that a word?).

I'm not too despondent, its a chance you take. Least i got a headset and bar control (useless). 😴

10 hours ago, adeyren

I bloody knew it !! Screwed. Bang goes my investment. 😂

Dear FUSAR community,   Many of you have been reaching out to inquire about the status of the camera, so we would like to provide an update on where things stand.    Over the last year and change, we have worked diligently to finalize the device and release it for mass production. This has been an intensive process from a development standpoint as well as a financial one. We endeavored to create an entirely new experience for riders and it has been a costly journey. Despite our best efforts, we have been unable to raise the capital necessary to complete the camera project. Unfortunately, as of now this means the camera project is officially on hold while we continue to look for further financial and production options.   We are currently working with our investors and advisors to determine the best path forward for all parties, including our Indiegogo backers.    In seeking capital or other alternatives, including M&A, we cannot offer refunds at this time. We understand that this is a difficult and frustrating situation for all, including our team.   While we sort things out, we can assure you all that the FUSAR app and supporting hardware will continue to function.   We would like to thank every member of the community for the support you have shown our team so far and we apologize for failing to deliver the entire suite of products we set out to make. We are working hard to determine the best path forward and will keep you all posted as developments occur.   - the FUSAR team   At least the crap app works.  🤣

I have not received this update.  What I think is more disappointing than the failure to deliver or receive updates as above, were the what are now in hindsight clearly misleading   "updates" (detailed in the post above, Oct 12, 17), leading people to believe that they were having development and production issues, "red tape" with the FCC and that they were "moving forward" "and growing" -  when the reality was they were running out of money.   If they're looking for investors or a merger partner, that is an enormous red flag.  All management has is their reputation and unfortunately Fusar's is now dead.   Their only hope is to get new people to believe them to obtain even more funding, and smart money will not let that happen.  They might find a company to buy the technology but I find it difficult to believe that such a buyer would honor the crowdfunding sponsors.   In the highly unlikely event that this is resurrected, it shall be re-named the "Phoenix", as this thing is dead. 

Not even slightly surprised.  What does surprise me, however, is how many people are still willing to make these "investments" given the abominable completion record of the instigators of these scams. 

I received the same email.

If they were genuine, I'm really sorry they failed.

If they weren't, then I hope they rot...

I think they were genuine. At least i received the bar control (redundant) headset and free tee shirts. Plus work went into the app. I think they overeached themselves in the end. Live and learn. 

It was a hell of a lot of work for a "scam".  They tried; they failed.  I gambled; I lost $200...

Ciao,

Shinigami, 11/22/2015 at 11:53 PM

I imagine horror stories like the British drone company failure and the apparently soon to be/continuing horror story around the Skully helmet may have poisoned the well for some of us when it comes to this sort of thing.

Well, as I said three years ago on this very thread...

If i had lost my money in the first couple of months, then yes i would have been pissed off. Two and a half years later? So what. Life's a gamble and times a great healer. 

None of there sites are working.

I think the worst thing, besides losing the money in the first place, is the constant dangling of the product as "almost finished",

"nearing completion", "nearly ready to ship",  etc. Why can't they just be up front and ethical about it? "Sorry guys, we fucked up

and found out we can't do what we thought we could".

FJ12Ryder, 12/19/2018 at 11:32 AM

I think the worst thing, besides losing the money in the first place, is the constant dangling of the product as "almost finished",

"nearing completion", "nearly ready to ship",  etc. Why can't they just be up front and ethical about it? "Sorry guys, we fucked up

and found out we can't do what we thought we could".

+1 .

FJ12Ryder, 12/19/2018 at 9:32 AM

I think the worst thing, besides losing the money in the first place, is the constant dangling of the product as "almost finished",

"nearing completion", "nearly ready to ship",  etc. Why can't they just be up front and ethical about it? "Sorry guys, we fucked up

and found out we can't do what we thought we could".

Well, exactly.  At no time did they do anything except aggressively shill the thing.  What's amazing is the Stockholm syndrome-like attitude of some of those who were left with nothing for their money.

Well, we take the risk when we back anything crowd funded. As disappointed as I am in the whole Fusar team, I knew it was a possibility when I put up my money that I may never see a finished product. I just feel bad for those who sunk a lot of cash into this for some funky sunglasses and a couple of shirts. The product had promise, but the team over-reached and couldn't deliver. Live and learn......

Has anybody else just received this email? 

Exciting

excited

exciting

Everything is fair game

maximize

Did Donald's press office release this?  :goofy:

I'm just curious whether Fusar has delivered on all its promises. I know some time back people

were saying they hadn't gotten some things they were supposed to. Did all that get cleared up

and now all is as it should be?

9 hours ago, Dutchy

Exciting

excited

exciting

Everything is fair game

maximize

Did Donald's press office release this?  :goofy:

it's going to be bigly

3 hours ago, FJ12Ryder

I'm just curious whether Fusar has delivered on all its promises. I know some time back people

were saying they hadn't gotten some things they were supposed to. Did all that get cleared up

and now all is as it should be?

I got a tee-shirt.

Not exactly what I put my money in for.

Let me see if I have this straight.

The company never followed through on all of its products, but is still operating and promising

new features. How, exactly, can they do that? Is there a place one can go to registers one's disgruntlement

with the operation?

49 minutes ago, Skids

I got a tee-shirt.

Not exactly what I put my money in for.

correction, you got a $200 tee shirt

I got two!

Ciao,

JZH

JZH, 7/19/2019 at 5:07 PM

I got two!

Ciao,

JZH

I bought ten sets. Was going to gift them to my riding friends and others and outfit the spare helmets for when friends show up to ride here.

My apologies to the great VFRD forum members who invested after I brought this to your attention.  I will not do that again regardless of the product or company.

1 hour ago, CornerCarver

I bought ten sets. Was going to gift them to my riding friends and others and outfit the spare helmets for when friends show up to ride here.

My apologies to the great VFRD forum members who invested after I brought this to your attention.  I will not do that again regardless of the product or company.

M8, you got suckered in just like the rest of us. We made our own choices.

Don't sweat it.  :beer: