Lifts Abba Vs Bursig

I need a versatile motorcycle lift that takes up a minimum of garage space. I am getting to damn old to crawl around on a cold concrete floor to perform routine maintenance, tire changes etc. I have looked on line at a Bursig &  Abba sky lift stands. One member here in the UK has a Abba sky lift. The Abba stand is listed for the VFR 1200 on Abba's site but I could not find any US distributor that lists this stand for the VFR 1200. The Abba is significantly more expensive (over $400 more expensive) but appears more versatile in that it lifts higher and the bike can be set level, nose down or nose up on the stand. Anybody have experience with the Bursig?

try this...  the only thing is that they do not list the sky lift as compatible with the VFR1200. This is because they cannot attach the strap to the rear. Having said that, a heavy duty tie down strap to the pillion grab rails is known to be used but if anything were to happen, Abba would not be held responsible.

Hope this helps.

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that Abba stand is nice !! 

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^ +1 Tie strap will work fine. If space is tight go for it. Great piece of kit. As a matter of interest how much is it over there? I paid £475 with all the bits.

You get what you pay for.

ie Sorry not the VFR.

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I have the Bursig knockoff from SV Racing, and it is great for maintenance and lifting both ends off the ground, but nowhere near the quality of the abba. I paid just under $200, but then had to order the VFR1200 mount from Bursig. The weight of the 1200 is close to the limit as it does flex a bit with 600lbs hanging off the side................

In hindsight, I probably should have bought the abba, but I was spending so much on the bike at the time, that I opted for the cheaper alternative. The socket receiver mounted to the bike does not get in the way, but does stick out. It looks like the abba has a much simpler adapter system, and looks like it will work on most sport bikes - the Bursig is $120 per bike adapter I think..........

I've not tried the Bursig but by all accounts it looks amazing, I can vouch for ABBA quality though as I have their normal stand and it just works so effectively - people have reported exactly the same thing about their skylift (assuming that's what you're talking about)

You certainly can use the Abba Skylify with a VFR1200,  i'm in the process of modifying mine so I can attach a strap round the diff housing to a lower arm  so that I can raise it in the wheelie position safely   
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VFR1200 on Abba Sky Lift

You certainly can use the Abba Skylify with a VFR1200,  i'm in the process of modifying mine so I can attach a strap round the diff housing to a lower arm  so that I can raise it in the wheelie position safely   

M8, what part of the bike rests on the lift? Looks like it just goes beneath the centre stand.

I was considering buying one of these at the NEC Bike Show last Nov but didn't because they said they couldn't make it fit the 1200.

Maybe is this a better idea:

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M8, what part of the bike rests on the lift? Looks like it just goes beneath the centre stand.

I was considering buying one of these at the NEC Bike Show last Nov but didn't because they said they couldn't make it fit the 1200.

It attaches to the Swing arm pivot bolt, which is the strongest part of the frame, you buy a fitting kit which enables you to attach it safely to the swing arm bolt each side, exactly the same as the Abba Superbike stand.

Because the adapters fit on or around the swing arm bolt it allows the whole bike to pivot, hence you can have it in the wheelie, stoppie or level position.

Happy to show it to you  or take some more pictures for you 

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That's nice Bert

If I was building a new garage then maybe, but you still need to put the bike on paddock stands to have the wheels free 

Thanks m8.

I should have bought one at the show, they were offering a show discount.

I have a ramp currently but it does get in the way in my small garage.

Yes I know what you mean I had a large ramp and even though I have a double garage I found it was in the way.
Plus you still need to put the bike up on paddock stands on the ramp to get the wheels off.

I find the Sky lift so versatile and convenient, I'm really pleased with it

The best price I found in the US for the Bursig with the wheels and the VFR 1200 adaptor was around $580 delivered. Although not priced in the US on any site I found the Abba skylift for most other bikes go for just under $1,000.00 here. No doubt in my mind that the Bursig is a high quality stand. I will contact one of the US suppliers to see if they can even get a Abba for the VFR.

The ONLY criticism i have of the Skylift is that if you are working on the offside (right) of the bike you can sit on a stool and tinker away in comfort. Working on the nearside is a bit more awkward as the ram etc gets in the way. Don't know if you could put the ram the other side, never tried it. Don't see why not. Apart from that its great. I did have a large ramp but always felt i was leaning forward all the time. A narrow ramp would probably be better.

The best price I found in the US for the Bursig with the wheels and the VFR 1200 adaptor was around $580 delivered. Although not priced in the US on any site I found the Abba skylift for most other bikes go for just under $1,000.00 here. No doubt in my mind that the Bursig is a high quality stand. I will contact one of the US suppliers to see if they can even get a Abba for the VFR.

VFR 1200 is not listed on the UK Abba site. However if you know a local machine shop etc they could turn up two easily. My school DT dept turned two up for me for the BBird.

The best price I found in the US for the Bursig with the wheels and the VFR 1200 adaptor was around $580 delivered. Although not priced in the US on any site I found the Abba skylift for most other bikes go for just under $1,000.00 here. No doubt in my mind that the Bursig is a high quality stand. I will contact one of the US suppliers to see if they can even get a Abba for the VFR.

That's a good price on the Bursig. Can you tell me who that is through?

VFR 1200 is not listed on the UK Abba site. However if you know a local machine shop etc they could turn up two easily. My school DT dept turned two up for me for the BBird.

The fitting kit is available for the VFR1200 look under the Abba super bike stand.
The reason they do not list the skylift as compatable with the VFR is because compared to other bikes there is nowhere obvious to fit the rear retaining strap. The best place is round the final drive housing where it bolts to the swing arm, but this requires removal of the plastic cover.

^ Ooops, i stand corrected (like the pun?). Must wear my glasses.

^ Ooops, i stand corrected (like the pun?). Must wear my glasses.

Well no your right is as much as its not listed under the Abba Skylift, but it is listed under the Abba Superbike Stand  which uses the same fitting kit.

The best price I found in the US for the Bursig with the wheels and the VFR 1200 adaptor was around $580 delivered. Although not priced in the US on any site I found the Abba skylift for most other bikes go for just under $1,000.00 here. No doubt in my mind that the Bursig is a high quality stand. I will contact one of the US suppliers to see if they can even get a Abba for the VFR.

That's a good price on the Bursig. Can you tell me who that is through?

with further searches on the net I found the following Bursig pricing on US websites. All of these prices include the VFR 1200 adaptor, wheels

1.   We Ride Motorsports weridemotorsports.com--includes freight $549.00

2.   2 wheel pros--$589--includes freight

3.  Revzilla--$609 currently out of stock due late March--could not tell if freight is included

4.  Motostarz--$549 plus freight

I am going for the Bursig. Great quality, good pricing for a high quality stand, consistently good reviews. Can't see the extra $450 to $475 for a Abba. Just my opinion.

Dumb question, but how do these lifts help with oil changes and such?  To me you'd still be on your knees?  No?  The Kendon looks to be a better solution for that and the fact tools and such can be stored at the working level  - but I am very intrigued by the Abba stand as it is so small. Precisely what I would like to get.  

Dave