Yamahonda Oil Filter Alternative

So I don't have the luxury of a Honda dealer near to me, and the one that is 2 hours away wants a princely 20 bucks for a dang oil filter.......

What I DO have is a Yamaha shop and I discovered from a VTX1800 riding friend that a filter common to many Yamahas will fit.

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Check it out!   :beer:   It even fits outboard motors!   :P

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Cheaper at only 12 bucks.

The possibly better part is that instead of a pleated paper element, it has a solid block of synthetic media.

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There are many very high quality aftermarket filters that fit our bikes. Search the threads and you will find info on the two major ones. Purolator Pure One and Mobil One filters are about the best IMO and many others.

Goodie, an oil filter thread   :beer:

I have used the Yamaha filter for some time, ever since I saw this post to the big list back in 2000.

I just use Vesrah filters, as that seems to be all the dealers here have.

teleskier, on Apr 5 2006, 10:15 PM, said:

There are many very high quality aftermarket filters that fit our bikes. Search the threads and you will find info on the two major ones. Purolator Pure One and Mobil One filters are about the best IMO and many others.

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Yes, but the key for me is availability in this little logging/oilfield town located 2 hours from the bright lights.   :idea3:

If there is an auto parts store anywhere around you you can get the mobile 1 mb 108 filter for about 8 bucks.

Two wheel friends,
if'n you like runnin' Honda brand,
try AZMotorsports. The are/were a VFRD sponsor. I did not see any discount on my last order but the prices were OK. Allow ~2-3 weeks for order to arrive.

The sell them for ~7.50ea.
I order four with tire sets .

The little brown truck will bring them to your door.

Just another option,

cheers,   . .. . . . .. . . .

Lately I've been using the STP SMO-17 filter, which is specifically for motorcycles.  It appears to be a decent quality filter, better than Fram anyway.  Also, it's only about $6 at Auto Zone.

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try AZMotorsports. The are/were a VFRD sponsor. I did not see any discount on my last order but the prices were OK.

There is no discount on OEM parts, but their prices are usually very good.

Most all small towns have a NAPA store; NAPA filters are made by Wix a very good brand and they have filters to fit most anything including Hondas. What I use...

I started using a $2.00 Walmart filter. (Supertech ST6607) The one on the left is a Fram,...Wallyworld filter on right.

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As the graph clearly illustrates, the Supertech has a longer green thing.

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It's actually a little smaller than stock.

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cozye, on Apr 6 2006, 05:45 AM, said:

If there is an auto parts store anywhere around you you can get the mobile 1 mb 108 filter for about 8 bucks.

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the Mobil 1 filters I get at AutoZone. I order Purolator Pure One online by the case as they are not a west coast item. East coast folks should be able to find them readily.

veefer800canuck, on Apr 6 2006, 03:42 AM, said:

So I don't have the luxury of a Honda dealer near to me, and the one that is 2 hours away wants a princely 20 bucks for a dang oil filter.......

What I DO have is a Yamaha shop and I discovered from a VTX1800 riding friend that a filter common to many Yamahas will fit.


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Veefer

It's posts like this that make this site awesome! You also had a great post on valve stems.

Dumb question: Is this filter good for the 6th gen bike?

Excellent info., cheers Veefer! I hate spending $20 bucks on the Honda filter.

Call me crazy but, I just order the OEM filters from Service Honda.  They generally get stuff to me within a week or so and they only charge $8.27 vs the local dealer's $12.99.  I generally order a few at a time so that I have extras on the shelf when I need them.

rjstaaf, on Apr 6 2006, 10:44 AM, said:

Call me crazy but, I just order the OEM filters from Service Honda.? They generally get stuff to me within a week or so and they only charge $8.27 vs the local dealer's $12.99.? I generally order a few at a time so that I have extras on the shelf when I need them.

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That's just crazy. :P

johne, on Apr 6 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

As the graph clearly illustrates, the Supertech has a longer green thing. I'm always careful to know the green thing length of every filter before I install it.

LMAO!!!

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whats the part # for that yamaha filter i cant make it out

snake, on Apr 6 2006, 09:46 AM, said:

whats the part # for that yamaha filter i cant make it out

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3FV-13440-10

VFReyes, on Apr 6 2006, 06:55 AM, said:

Two wheel friends,
if'n you like runnin' Honda brand, try AZMotorsports.
The sell them for ~7.50ea.
I order four with tire sets .

The little brown truck will bring them to your door.

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The little brown truck arrives (in Canada) with a family-sized jar of Vaseline and a very large brokerage bill too.


BROKER-age being the fine point.   $7.50 filter instantly doubles in value with shipping, GST, duty and brokerage.

The Yamaha dealer is a mile away from me.

teleskier, on Apr 6 2006, 08:27 AM, said:

the Mobil 1 filters I get at AutoZone. I order Purolator Pure One online by the case as they are not a west coast item. East coast folks should be able to find them readily.

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We've got Purolator up here in Portland.  :D  It's only a 5-minute walk for me to the local Fred Meyer, which is nice when you start changing the oil in your car or bike and find out you've only got oil filters for the other.  

So far, Fred Meyer is the only place I've found that carries Purolator.  Autozone and Schuck's (that's Kragen or Checkers for you non-Northwesterners) don't seem to carry them.  <_<

You guys change your oil filters ? :idea3:

By the way, what type of oil do you use ? :P
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7K Rush, on Apr 6 2006, 08:04 AM, said:

Lately I've been using the STP SMO-17 filter, which is specifically for motorcycles.  It appears to be a decent quality filter, better than Fram anyway.  Also, it's only about $6 at Auto Zone.

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Don't tell anybody but STP filters and Walmart filters are both made by Champion Labs.  Guess who makes the Mobil-1 and Bosch filters everybody raves about?  Yep, Champion Labs.   Shhhhhh, don't say anything.  Let them buy those $8-12 filters when we can get ours for $2-5.    http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

tbzep, on Apr 6 2006, 01:06 PM, said:

Don't tell anybody but STP filters and Walmart filters are both made by Champion Labs.  Guess who makes the Mobil-1 and Bosch filters everybody raves about?  Yep, Champion Labs.   Shhhhhh, don't say anything.  Let them buy those $8-12 filters when we can get ours for $2-5.    http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif

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Doesn't mean there using the same filter medium in every filter though ! :idea3:
:P

those Yamaha filters look a little cheap !  It says "Do Not Jack Up" right on the filter! http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif

In the Midwest you can find the Purolator at Advance Auto Parts.

Wow I was right, this really did turn into an oil filter thread!

baileyrock, on Apr 6 2006, 02:11 PM, said:

Doesn't mean there using the same filter medium in every filter though ! :idea3:
:P

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Probably not.  However, the medium won't be any worse than the HondaYamaKawaZuki branded filters which are low bid contracts sold at top dollar.   http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif

The Phantom, on Apr 6 2006, 07:24 PM, said:

Wow I was right, this really did turn into an oil filter thread!

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Trouble Maker !
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ok i cant rember the part number off hand but i use a k&n oil filter at 13.00 a pop there not to bad. anyways you can get them at your local autozone altho they are a special order. but if you get a good autozoner he or she can look it up on there computer for you and order it. also my autozone even stocks brakes for the front and the rear!

i dont know about you guys i wouldnt put a cheap filter in the heart of of my bike i use a scotts and its better than any paper element out there or synthetic ,,and you dont have to but filters again.... ever its aso rebuildable wnd can be fitted on other bikes if you change bikes in the future ,if you add up the cost of ten filters ,even cheap ones the scotts still comes out the cheaper deal with better filtering to boot,but its your choice in the end

[image: View Post]NYMBYSS, on Jul 11 2006, 02:16 PM, said:

i dont know about you guys i wouldnt put a cheap filter in the heart of of my bike i use a scotts and its better than any paper element out there or synthetic ,,and you dont have to but filters again.... ever its aso rebuildable wnd can be fitted on other bikes if you change bikes in the future ,if you add up the cost of ten filters ,even cheap ones the scotts still comes out the cheaper deal with better filtering to boot,but its your choice in the end
I think if you read other threads on here as well other publications on the net about the Scotts filter vs. paper etc. you will form the opinion of many other here that the Scotts is not as good and it costs way too much. It simply will not filter small enough.

[image: View Post]Atrus96, on Apr 19 2006, 01:34 PM, said:

ok i cant rember the part number off hand but i use a k&n oil filter at 13.00 a pop there not to bad. anyways you can get them at your local autozone altho they are a special order. but if you get a good autozoner he or she can look it up on there computer for you and order it. also my autozone even stocks brakes for the front and the rear! I tried that at my local Autzone and the idiots couldn't figure out how to order it because they couldn't pull up the part number (KN-204).  I ended up special ordering one from my Honda dealer.  It looks like a good filter, it is missing a green thingy but they do have nuts. Clicky

[image: View Post]vfr781, on Apr 6 2006, 03:23 PM, said:

In the Midwest you can find the Purolator at Advance Auto Parts.


I found the purulator MC specific at Pepboys, semi oring and everything, Indentical to Honda filter, $6


Local dealer charging 9.99 recently went to 11.99,  That was too much

An important element of any filter is an anti-drainback valve.  This valve is extremely important to keep at least *some* oil in the filter, to keep from having an oil-less cold start.  It's surprising how few filters on the market actually have this feature.

I would suspect the stock Honda filter has this valve, as I do not have an oil light staring me in the face after the bike starts in the morning.  Has anyone experienced no oil pressure momentarily after start with any of these off-brand filters (especially interested in hearing about the cheapo WalMart branded filter)?

yo HS, i think it's time to make a compendium of pages that cover oil, oil filters and such that fit by model number, highest rate tires by use (sport/touring/general), manuals, parts catalogues, etc. i'd like the benefit of everyone else's wisdom, less threads about the same ol' same ol', and an easy reference for everyone. honestly, i don't remember oil filter numbers from yamahas that fit but would like to easily be able to find them here.

the site is great for idea exchange and now needs an area devoted to static information and helpful hints. then it's a great source of info first hand and reference.

great job, this just adds icing to the already tasty cake.   :blink:

Go here for the scoop on filter cross-references:

http://motorcycleinf...FilterXRef.html

Go here for dissected filters and recommendations based upon the results:

http://motorcycleinf...ilterStudy.html

...I was pleased to see the SuperTech filter does indeed have an anti-drainback valve.  However it does have lots less filtration media present, which would necessitate 2x the filter changes for every oil change (and wasting the oil in the filter during the changes).  At $2 per though, you still come out money ahead of buying another type of filter (as long as you consider you work for free...).

[image: View Post]Atrus96, on Apr 19 2006, 07:34 PM, said:

ok i cant rember the part number off hand but i use a k&n oil filter at 13.00 a pop there not to bad. anyways you can get them at your local autozone altho they are a special order. but if you get a good autozoner he or she can look it up on there computer for you and order it. also my autozone even stocks brakes for the front and the rear!
In this study:

http://motorcycleinf...html#OilFilters

...the K&N filters were specifically cited as a problem, as they are manufactured by a company called Hi-Flo.  The motorcycle had a constant lack of oil pressure.  At $13 each, they are nearly 7 times as expensive as the WalMart filter and not as well rated.

Since somebody revived this thread, an oil filter one yet, I have a question.  I just put on a K&N filter with the seventeen milimeter nut on the end.  I was at Cycle Gear and that was the only one they had that fit.  Both the manual and the box for the filter say to torque it to 20lbs.  I did and couldn't believe how much torque I was putting on a filter.  I usually just hand tighten them and figure their good.

I was so concerned I backed off and did it my old fashion way.  Now I may have overtorqured it once and it wil start to leak, who knows.

Does any body else torque their oil filters to 20lbs?

Honda filter (on a good day), Mobil 1 V-Twin, Metzler Z-6 by the way.

When I used the spin on filters on my VFR I just tightened them by hand, never had a problem.
You should be ok unless you damaged the rubber ring (which I dont think you did you did).
I now use a Scotts oil filter and like it much better.

actually the scotts is way better than a paper filter and it filters finer particles than paper can handle and for those that occasionally ride in the cold it also lets oil flow without activating the bypass that cuts in when oilflow is too low in cold weather which can let unfiltered oil passing through your engine ,its a investment well worth it. no paper filter can compare.

Bought a new filter the other day and fixed the missing pictures in the 1st post which had been lost in a forum crash.


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