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Pirelli Diablo Strada Vs Michelin Pilot Road

32 posts Started 9 May 2007 Last recovered post 2 Aug 2009 Wayback Machine snapshot 20 Dec 2015

#1
Well, folks,
After putting 11100 miles on the stock BT020 (did Iron Butt ride on them!), it is time to replace them. I was thinking about cheap Dunlop 220s, but figured I do not like to change them after 6000 miles. Now considering Pirelli Diablo Strada versus Michelin Pilot Road. Any suggestions, folks? I like the look of Pirelli and I can get them cheaper then Michelin, but in a long run... Please advice!
#2
I have stradas front and back and love them. Cyclegear has a deal on them. Check the bargin finder forum. the info is there
#3
http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/+1.gif for Stradas

I have stradas front and back and love them. Cyclegear has a deal on them. Check the bargin finder forum. the info is there


#4
Stradas are great. I had them on the bike at the TMac ride and have no complaints. They stuck very well and did not get greasy.
#6
My 1997 is wearing strada's also but what do i know??I ride a KLR with anakees.........Tom
#7
I ride at a rapid PACE and will never run P-Roads again. If you push at all(that's a relative term) they Suck IMO, the most VEG feeling Tires I've ever pushed! <_<
The Strada's are far superior IMO in every way, you can still slide them when pushing, but at least there predictable when doing so!

But that's just me! :unsure:
#8
:goofy: for the Stradas. Great mileage - solid and reliable performance, they warm up quickly and exhibit neutral handling and hold up well when riding on the boil. Now as to the question of how anybody gets 11k miles or more out of a set of tires is beyond my comprehension :unsure: coz at best I get *maybe* 4k from something sticky like the current set of Diablos I'm running, and I got almost 7k from the last set of Stradas I had on my bike... and by the time I was done with 'em I could almost see the air inside! :lol:
#9

Well, folks,
After putting 11400 miles on the stock BT020 (did Iron Butt ride on them!), it is time to replace them. I was thinking about cheap Dunlop 220s, but figured I do not like to change them after 6000 miles. Now considering Pirelli Diablo Strada versus Michelin Pilot Road. Any suggestions, folks? I like the look of Pirelli and I can get them cheaper then Michelin, but in a long run... Please advice!



Geez I have never seen anywhere over 4500 miles even on my BT020's or any other S/T tires. I just gave up on tire life on and just run sport tires and change them every 2500-3000 miles. I wish I could get more miles w/ better grip but don't we all.
#10

Well, folks,
After putting 11400 miles on the stock BT020 (did Iron Butt ride on them!), it is time to replace them. I was thinking about cheap Dunlop 220s, but figured I do not like to change them after 6000 miles. Now considering Pirelli Diablo Strada versus Michelin Pilot Road. Any suggestions, folks? I like the look of Pirelli and I can get them cheaper then Michelin, but in a long run... Please advice!



Geez I have never seen anywhere over 4500 miles even on my BT020's or any other S/T tires. I just gave up on tire life on and just run sport tires and change them every 2500-3000 miles. I wish I could get more miles w/ better grip but don't we all.
Folks, I can send picture of the bike with odometr reading for those who in doubt, I have 11338 mile on the odometr with original BT020 tires, I guess, I was very gentle on them...only tried 155 mph once, not every day - like some of you do :-) Now, any opinons on Dunlop Qualifiers? If not, I am going with Stradas. Thanks a million for prompt replays!
#11
Is this an apples-to-apples comparison? Pilot Roads are fairly stale technology, superceded by Pilot Powers and 2CT's. Pilot Powers, IMO, are superior to the Stradas and somewhat close in price. That's just from my brief experience running Stradas and putting a few hunnerd on my PP's.

Just my 2 cents. I'm sure somebody will shoot it down. :unsure:
#12
Had Stradas on my Repsol CBR1000RR......but those Pilot Powers on my VFR.....MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm....................................................... :thumbsup:
#13

Is this an apples-to-apples comparison? Pilot Roads are fairly stale technology, superceded by Pilot Powers and 2CT's. Pilot Powers, IMO, are superior to the Stradas and somewhat close in price. That's just from my brief experience running Stradas and putting a few hunnerd on my PP's.

Just my 2 cents. I'm sure somebody will shoot it down. :unsure:


bang, bang! :goofy:
Actually your mixing two different categories here birdman.

Strada's and Pilot Roads are ST (sport touring tires) where the Pilot Power (& 2tc) are their Sport tire. Pilot are the current ST tire from Michelin until the newly released Pilot Road 2TC hits the shores of the US later this year. The Stradas with turn in much better than the Roads too as the profile is not as flat as the Roads.

You are dead on correct saying that Pilot Powers are better! There better than most anything out there, but they are a fast wearing Sport tires( I get less than 2300 miles from a rear). That's all I use (Pilot Powers) :thumbsup:
#14
I had 2900 on the Pilot Powers, and I figure I could have "stretched" em' to 6000 the way it was looking.....short life span on a tire for me, but another set would have followed simply because of the increased feel and confidence........ :thumbsup:
#15
Dunlop quality has taken a big hit in recent years. You can actually feel the difference between French made Dunlops (the good ones) and the crap made here. Stay away from the Dunlops.

Get the Stradas and let us know how you like 'em. I think they are the best of the three tires you are comparing.
#16
[/quote]Now, any opinons on Dunlop Qualifiers? If not, I am going with Stradas. Thanks a million for prompt replays![/quote]

I have ridden them and I loved them but I only got 2800 miles out of a rear and only 5600 out of the front. Super sticky and nice but gone in 60 second for sure. Here is a link to a great place to get tires cheap.

Best price I have found on stradas

I run the Metzeler Z6 Roadtecs. Last alot longer and stick really well

Bets price I have found on Z6 Roadtecs


*NOTE PAGE LOADS SLOWLY SOMETIMES YOU MAY NEED TO TRY MORE THEN ONCE*
#17
Is anyone using a Diablo Sport on the front and Strada on the rear, like the once popular BT-010/BT-020 combination?

I've been happy with Bridgestone, but would like to experiment with the more triangular Pirellis.
#18

Is anyone using a Diablo Sport on the front and Strada on the rear, like the once popular BT-010/BT-020 combination?

I've been happy with Bridgestone, but would like to experiment with the more triangular Pirellis.



I've used that combo before and was pretty happy, but with the way I ride I would still get the rear to slide once in a while and with only getting aprox. 400 more miles from them(20% about 2400 from a Strada rear) I just went back to standard Diablo's F&R.
The only thing I didn't like about the Diable front is that it didn't hold it's profile long enough and steering would suffer slightly if you tried to get more miles from them. :pissed:

No other tire I've used seems to hold it's front profile better than the Pilot Power. Powers are my standard for the last 30k. :thumbsup:
#19
I got about 8,500 miles out of a set of Pilot Roads, but they seemed to get real unpredictable - squirrelly, even - after about 7,000 (they still had plenty of tread left when I replaced them). Because of that, I'll never buy them again. I switched to the Diablo Stradas about 2,000 miles ago, and so far I've been very pleased with them. My main use is commuting with the occasional weekend run through the twisty bits.
#20

I got about 8,500 miles out of a set of Pilot Roads, but they seemed to get real unpredictable - squirrelly, even - after about 7,000 (they still had plenty of tread left when I replaced them)installing and only get worse from there. Because of that, I'll never buy them again. I switched to the Diablo Stradas about 2,000 miles ago, and so far I've been very pleased with them. My main use is commuting with the occasional weekend run through the twisty bits.

Roads have a bad profile, they do not like to lean over, and when they get leaned over they fight you to go back upright. Anywhere near the edge they wander around and it feels like you are going to lowside. Fronts get cupped in about 3000 miles so badly that the bars oscillate when in a corner. With a few thousand on the rear it would slide on every corner exit even with very small throttle openings.
#21
OK, folks, ordered Stradas from South West Motor tires 5 mins ago. Thanks all for your input!
Hope the Seller is reputable and will get everything shipped as promissed - same day. If any of you dealt with this place before, how would you rate them? I trust you guys for referring me to them, hope they are good and honest.
MrZ
#22
Man,
I guess im the only one who had an ok experiance with roads. Granted the front and rear were BLUE when i got done with them.... :pissed:
#23

OK, folks, ordered Stradas from South West Motor tires 5 mins ago. Thanks all for your input!
Hope the Seller is reputable and will get everything shipped as promissed - same day. If any of you dealt with this place before, how would you rate them? I trust you guys for referring me to them, hope they are good and honest.
MrZ



Excellent sellers! I've bought many sets from them with no problems whatsoever! :thumbsup:
#24
For those that just love the PP like I do:
Sportbike Track Gear Items
1 Michelin Pilot Power 120/70/17 front & 180/55/17 rear tire combo (120/70/17 front & 180/55/17 rear) @ $239.95 = $239.95

SportBikeTrackGear
#25

Please advice!


I'm switching from DOT race tires back to High Performance Street tires
after reading Sport Riders shoot out where they sampled all the
different tire categories to test how they stack up... In summary:

They gathered a lot of data during this test and learned a lot about each
tire and our own preferences for tires. Much of the objective data show
the more track-oriented tires to be superior when it comes to lap times
or speed,and certainly that is the case. However,on both street and
track that increasing performance comes with more of a requirement
from the rider. Setup is more important with the grippier tires, stability
and compliance suffer,and conditions have to be just right to access
that extra traction. Over 80 percent of our street test loop,the four
types of tires averaged within a couple mph of one another,a strong indication
that factors other than what tire you are on dictate your pace on the road.

Surprise No.1 for us was just how capable the sport-touring tires are,
especially on the street. If you're not looking for that last
10 percent of performance from your bike,sport-touring tires have
excellent traction and predictability and will provide thousands of
miles of use.

Surprise NO.2 was how good sport tires were on the track. Both
brands provided great,consistent performance,lapping an average of
just a half-second off the DOT race buns. They carded the best scores
on the street portion of the test and required little in the way of
set up to get comfortable with.

Surprise NO.3 was just how much the DOT race tires sacrificed on
the street compared with the sport and hybrid tires. Neither of our
riders felt comfortable on the majority of the test loop with the race
tires, and even though the tires have incredible grip levels and are amazingly
fun on a fast,smooth road,that performance is not worth the trade off
that must be made the rest of the time. At the race track the DOT race
tires are clearly a step above the street tires, and there is even
more of a performance gap than our lap times indicate-both our riders
felt they could go faster than they did with more set up time. Again,that is the
price that must be paid for great grip and steering from a race tire.
The final piece of the puzzle is this: To get the best performance,
you must be honest with yourself when it comes to choosing a tire.
They given you the answers. You just need to figure out what questions
to ask yourself.


SPORT-TOURING
DUNLOP D220ST AND MICHELIN PILOT ROAD
Rating Street: 78.7 Track: 75.5 Average lap time: 1:12.72

......Street v Track
General:. 7.7 7.5
Braking;. 8.0 8.0
Traction; 7.9 7.8
Steering; 7.6 7.2

SPORT
DUNLOP SPORT MAX QUALIFIER AND MICHELIN PILOT POWER
Rating Street:89.5 Track:87.3 Average lap time: 1:08.90

......Street v Track
General:. 9.0 8.9
Braking;. 8.9 8.7
Traction; 9.0 8.7
Steering; 8.8 8.4

HIGH-PERFORMANCE SPORT STREET
DUNLOP D208GP AND MICHELIN PILOT POWER 2CT
Rating Street:89.3 Track:88.8 Average lap time: 1:08.97

......Street v Track
General:. 8.8 8.8
Braking;. 9.0 9.0
Traction; 9.2 8.9
Steering; 8.6 8.8

DOT RACE
DUNLOP SPORT MAXGP AND MICHELIN POWER RACE
Rating Street:89.4 Track:92.8 Average lap time: 1:08.447

......Street v Track
General:. 8.4 9.1
Braking;. 9.3 9.5
Traction; 9.3 9.6
Steering; 9.3 9.3

RACE SLICKS
DUNLOP KR106/108 AND MICHELIN PILOT
Rating Street: NAT rack:93.2 Average lap time: 1:08.23

.........Track
General:. 9.0
Braking;. 9.5
Traction; 9.9
Steering; 9.1

I only have one bike... it's set up for the rigors of racing plus sport riding and touring... so a single tire
choice is critical if I want to cut low lap times and still satisfy my street requirements... lucky for me
Metzeler makes such a tire called Rennsport Road... only trouble is they don't import this hoop to the
USA anymore... no problem... I found them on the UK Ebay site...
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...2QQcmdZViewItem



Metzeler Rennsport Road / Street
"Tyre developed for racing oriented riders using race technology for top dry
performance on normal road and high satisfaction on the racetrack"


a.. Fast and direct handling for very high performance riding on normal roads, for delayed braking and
rapid direction changes

b.. Compound deriving from racing experience for outstanding grip and very
fast warm up: the slick-like behaviour allows fast cornering with very high safety margins

c.. The 0° steel belt structure provides great degree of control and stability in all conditions, especially
when powering out of corners, giving excellent feedback




My Metzeler Rennsport High Performance *Street* tires after a Thunder Hill Track day...
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#26
i think a lot of people wear differences is strictly the road contsruction because either way it is normally the center that wears out first. I had gotter 11,000 miles from michelin macadam 90's on the ducati and still had life left till i took a nail. the VFR went nearly 8000 miles on diablo strada's. and now i have nearly 2000 miles on Pilot Race soft compounds on the Gsxr and they arent flat spotting the way i thought they would in short time.
#27
Stradas.....or maybe Avon ST's. My 2 cents. They are more for sport riding than touring tho
#28

I'm switching from DOT race tires back to High Performance Street tires
after reading Sport Riders shoot out where they sampled all the
different tire categories to test how they stack up... In summary:
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How many threads are you going to post this same thing in?
i would have brought that up myself....but then i would have been placed on another 3 day vacation :unsure: at least it wasnt posted in the "new" disable your vtec thread
#29

i would have brought that up myself....but then i would have been placed on another 3 day vacation :unsure: at least it wasnt posted in the "new" disable your vtec thread


I guess you're the red-headed stepchild, Fixer. http://www.vfrdiscus...tyle_emoticons/default/wink.gif I just haven't tried hard enough to get banned, yet.
#31
Pilot Power 2CT is a sport tyre:
"Pilot� Power 2CT tires add two-compound technology to the already renowned Pilot� Power range. "

Pilot Road 2 is a sport touring tyre:
"Until now, you had to make a choice: the grip of a softer tire � or the durability of a harder tire? But thanks to Michelin 2CT dual-compound technology, the new Pilot� Road 2 tire offers both grip and durability in one tire."

Quotes from Michelin website.
#32
Now what the hell is this??????? :blink: :huh: http://www.michelinp...m/indexall.html
Road, Road2, Road2CT and a Power One???? :cool:
I have to go outside tomorrow and see what I've actually been riding on the last year and a half! :blush:
As clear as mud.............. :laugh:
I'm so confoozed, I think I'm going to puke..............[image: Posted Image]
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