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After Market Sprocket Versus Factory

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#1
i have seen really good looking aftermarket sprockets and chains but i wonder about wear and tear comapred to the factory steel ones.

Mine is factory steel and its it showinf rust although the mechanic tells me the sprocket has lots of life left, i seen an image of a VFR with a nice gold chain and a nice aftermarket sprocket but is it all about the looks or is it more

i will not be changing the teeth on the sprocket if anyone was thinking, i just wnat an opinion on stock versus aftermarket and anyone have any tales to tell

Thanks
#2
Shayne100, Oct 4 2007, 07:42 PMi have seen really good looking aftermarket sprockets and chains but i wonder about wear and tear comapred to the factory steel ones.

Mine is factory steel and its it showinf rust although the mechanic tells me the sprocket has lots of life left, i seen an image of a VFR with a nice gold chain and a nice aftermarket sprocket but is it all about the looks or is it more

i will not be changing the teeth on the sprocket if anyone was thinking, i just wnat an opinion on stock versus aftermarket and anyone have any tales to tell

Thanks


I put a JT sprockets on mine and it still looks like new after 6,000 plus miles. And it was cheaper than the OEM part from the dealer.

http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&...uid=4048&p=
#3
Dino71, Oct 4 2007, 04:50 PM
Shayne100, Oct 4 2007, 07:42 PMi have seen really good looking aftermarket sprockets and chains but i wonder about wear and tear comapred to the factory steel ones.

Mine is factory steel and its it showinf rust although the mechanic tells me the sprocket has lots of life left, i seen an image of a VFR with a nice gold chain and a nice aftermarket sprocket but is it all about the looks or is it more

i will not be changing the teeth on the sprocket if anyone was thinking, i just wnat an opinion on stock versus aftermarket and anyone have any tales to tell

Thanks


I put a JT sprockets on mine and it still looks like new after 6,000 plus miles. And it was cheaper than the OEM part from the dealer.

http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&...uid=4048&p=


thanks, i will look into them
#4
You can get steel aftermarket sprockets also. I use them exclusively.
#5
The stock Honda front sprocket has a bonded rubber cushion that really cuts down on chain noise.

I put on a brand new set of aftermarket sprockets with a new chain, and the noise from the front sprocket when traveling with basically neutral throttle was horrendous. At least in the lower 3 gears. At highway speeds, you couldn't hear it.

Got the OEM front sprocket with the rubber cushion, noise went away.

And yes, the chain was properly adjusted both times.


Only caveat is that the OEM sprocket with the rubber is meant only for chains whose sideplates have an 8 profile.

If the chain sideplates have a 0 profile, it doesn't work. The rubber tends to lift the links away from the teeth.
#6
Rob,
You didn't happen to take a photo of the 2 sprockets side by side did you? I'm intrigued by this rubber-cushion thingy.
Cheers
AB
#7
I just so happen to have both nearby...

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Left is OEM with rubber.
#8
AB-Oz, Oct 4 2007, 06:19 PMRob,
You didn't happen to take a photo of the 2 sprockets side by side did you? I'm intrigued by this rubber-cushion thingy.
Cheers
AB


No I didn't, but Miguel has excellent pictures in his how-to guide here:

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...;showarticle=54


Shows both varieties of sprocket clearly.
#9
Worth noting that an all-aluminium sprocket will achieve perhaps half the mileage/life of a steel one, especially if you ride it hard.
#10
The Phantom, Oct 5 2007, 03:07 AMWorth noting that an all-aluminium sprocket will achieve perhaps half the mileage/life of a steel one, especially if you ride it hard.

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...and that aluminum rear sprockets are typically cheaper. Aluminum rear sprockets result in less rotating and unsprung mass.
There are pros and cons to both, as always. I would go with a steel rear. What's another few grams, eh?

Many folks go to a 520 chain, as opposed to the OEM 530 for the lighter weight. Unfortunately, that also usually means an aluminum rear.
#12
Rob was kind enough to send me his aftermarket front sprocket. I don't hear any drive chain sprocket noise . I also installed a jt steel rear that i'm also happy with.
I know Rob isnt the only one to complain about drive chain noise on the aftermarket fronts but i hear no differnce , but then again i'm old and my hearing isnt what it used to be rolleyes.gif goofy.gif
#13
dude, Oct 5 2007, 04:17 PMRob was kind enough to send me his aftermarket front sprocket. I don't hear any drive chain sprocket noise . I also installed a jt steel rear that i'm also happy with.
I know Rob isnt the only one to complain about drive chain noise on the aftermarket fronts but i hear no differnce , but then again i'm old and my hearing isnt what it used to be rolleyes.gif goofy.gif



I got my aftermarket set for free (won in contest) so I'm deaf too!!
#14
The Phantom, Oct 5 2007, 12:07 AMWorth noting that an all-aluminium sprocket will achieve perhaps half the mileage/life of a steel one, especially if you ride it hard.


Actually a aluminum sprocket will last only 1/3 the distance of steel... that's why I only use a
modified steel sprocket on the street and save the aluminum one for racing Mr.RC45...

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#15
Dutchy, I hope that last sprocket picture was not one of yours.....if so.....tsk, tsk, tsk......shame, shame...you know better.... warranty.gif
#16
I just replaced the Drive train on my 5th Gen. 16 - 43 steel JT's.
Can't say that i noticed a difference on the noise level, may be felt a bit more buzz in the left peg at around 4500 rpm.

I certainly could tell the difference in top gear on the Freeway. Very easy to get through traffic with top gear roll ons as opposed to shifting down. I got about 47 mpg on a road trip last week.
#17
BusyLittleShop, Oct 5 2007, 05:03 PM
The Phantom, Oct 5 2007, 12:07 AMWorth noting that an all-aluminium sprocket will achieve perhaps half the mileage/life of a steel one, especially if you ride it hard.


Actually a aluminum sprocket will last only 1/3 the distance of steel... that's why I only use a
modified steel sprocket on the street and save the aluminum one for racing Mr.RC45...

[image: gallery_3131_51_28717.jpg]

I just saw a new product by Renthal in the latest Cylce World bike magazine that combines an aluminum center carrier and a steel gear ring, similar to what you see with front brake discs. Makes a lot of sense! Durability of steel combined with the weight savings of aluminium. Unfortunately, it seems like it's only available for dirt bikes for now. Also, there's not too much of a center portion to the VFR's rear sprocket, because of the humungo pudding bowl sized drive cush hub. So we might not see one for the VFR.
What about drilling out the drive cush hub to lighten it, just like a dry clutch cover??? idea3.gif

Beck
95 VFR
#18
Supersprox makes a "trimetal" rear sprocket, which employs the aluminum center with a steel gear ring. I know they are available for the 6th Gen, because I have a 45T in my garage waiting to be installed. No cheap though... Also, I can tell you that a Supersprox trimetal rear sprocket weighs significantly less than an aftermarket steel rear, because I've held both in my hand. No numbers to pass on though, except to say that the trimetal weighs somewhere in the middle between a steel and aluminum sprocket. When I get home tonight I will weigh the 45T Supersprox and compare it to the 45T aluminum sprocket I have from Sprocket Specialties.


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Check out the Supersprox Stealth (Trimetal) website for more info: http://www.supersprox.com/usa/static.php?files=stealth

Also, I bought mine at: http://www.drivesystemsusa.com/
#20
skuuter trash, Oct 5 2007, 08:45 PMDutchy, I hope that last sprocket picture was not one of yours.....if so.....tsk, tsk, tsk......shame, shame...you know better.... warranty.gif


Your eyes must be failing you (wonder why...)
The spokes are a dead give away that it ain't my VFR....

It is a F650 where the owner complained to the bike shop that either the engine or gearbox was defective....

#21
Beck, Oct 5 2007, 01:49 PMWhat about drilling out the drive cush hub to lighten it, just like a dry clutch cover??? idea3.gif

Beck
95 VFR


I think the best course of action is to eliminate the silly cush drive... like I did on Jody's VFR Racer...



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#22
jstanwood, Oct 5 2007, 07:46 AMMany folks go to a 520 chain, as opposed to the OEM 530 for the lighter weight. Unfortunately, that also usually means an aluminum rear.


Not true, steel 520 rears are available. fing02.gif
#23
NVR2L8, Oct 5 2007, 04:19 PMSupersprox makes a "trimetal" rear sprocket, which employs the aluminum center with a steel gear ring. I know they are available for the 6th Gen, because I have a 45T in my garage waiting to be installed. No cheap though... Also, I can tell you that a Supersprox trimetal rear sprocket weighs significantly less than an aftermarket steel rear, because I've held both in my hand. No numbers to pass on though, except to say that the trimetal weighs somewhere in the middle between a steel and aluminum sprocket. When I get home tonight I will weigh the 45T Supersprox and compare it to the 45T aluminum sprocket I have from Sprocket Specialties.


[image: 049.jpg]


Check out the Supersprox Stealth (Trimetal) website for more info: http://www.supersprox.com/usa/static.php?files=stealth

Also, I bought mine at: http://www.drivesystemsusa.com/


I have definatly thought about getting one of these with a 17 front.
what do you guys think?
there is another sight with this sproket for little less cash check it. www.sprocketcenter.com
#24
BusyLittleShop, Oct 5 2007, 12:03 PM
The Phantom, Oct 5 2007, 12:07 AMWorth noting that an all-aluminium sprocket will achieve perhaps half the mileage/life of a steel one, especially if you ride it hard.


Actually a aluminum sprocket will last only 1/3 the distance of steel... that's why I only use a
modified steel sprocket on the street and save the aluminum one for racing Mr.RC45...

[image: gallery_3131_51_28717.jpg]


Who makes that steel one shown here? That looks much better than a stock steel one!
#25
ActionStarCBRxx, Oct 12 2007, 10:31 AM
BusyLittleShop, Oct 5 2007, 12:03 PM
The Phantom, Oct 5 2007, 12:07 AMWorth noting that an all-aluminium sprocket will achieve perhaps half the mileage/life of a steel one, especially if you ride it hard.


Actually a aluminum sprocket will last only 1/3 the distance of steel... that's why I only use a
modified steel sprocket on the street and save the aluminum one for racing Mr.RC45...

[image: gallery_3131_51_28717.jpg]


Who makes that steel one shown here? That looks much better than a stock steel one!


That steel sprocket is what remains of a SunStar 525 43T sprocket for a ZX7R Kawasaki after I trimmed it on the Lathe and Mill...
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