GET BENT!!!

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This here is a fixit story, one with a sad beginning and hopefully a happy ending.

For everyone who told me to buy another bike and move on, you were right. :beer:

I should have bought my wreck back for $650, bought another used Viffer, transferred over my mods and farkles over time, then EBAYED anything leftover that had any value or worth. :blush:

Instead, I trusted the "structural engineer" from the insurance company who never said that the frame was bent. In my narcotic-addled mind, fresh out of the horsetable, it looked to me like the forks were bent. And I ASS-umed that if the frame had been bent, it would have been given "non-repairable" status rather than "repairable salvage" that they assigned to it. :mad:

Had I known it was the frame, I would have gone another route. There is a 5th gen on canadatrader.com with ONLY 12,000km at the moment. They want FAR too much money for it, but it's at a dealer, so you know, everything is negotiable, right? :491:

So here I am with a roomful of boxes, boxes full of shiny new (and grimy used) parts, bought and paid for, and I'm so far down the river now that it's too late to turn back.

The only upside is that I'm still spending insurance company money, and not my own. I had figured already (if not for the bent frame) that I'd have about $1500-$1800 surplus from the insurance money, but at this point, as reality is setting in, I'll be right about the break-even point by the time I pay to get a new VIN assigned to the new frame, and pay for a safety inspection. sad.gif

Could be worse, I could be upside-down on the whole deal but I'm not.

Which brings me to my thread title:

GET BENT

(or, how I learned to stop worrying and love my bike!)

Where to begin, aaah, how about here:

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I am now the "official keeper of the sport-touring dot net cane". :biggrin:

Sidestory:

And, well, I probably would have had a better handle on this whole GET BENT! deal had I not inherited a BIG problem from my stunningly beautiful eldest daughter late last year.

Seems that she blew the motor in her car, ran it right out of coolant, probably from a leaky head gasket, and seized the motor solid. SO, Daddy spent all of December and most of January yanking the motor from her car WITH A BROKEN FOOT! and installing a new (used) one.

A: I move slow, B: my friggin foot and shoulder hurt so I could only work on it for short periods, then rest for a couple of days C: I was also back at work full time since Oct 23rd, so that leaves only 15 days per month free to do anything at all, so you can see why it took so damn long. Add in Xmas, New Years, blah blah, blah, good thing I don't charge by the hour. Actually, I did it for free. I must be nuts. :blink:

Good news is that the 1997 Fjord Tortoise lives again with a low-mileage, solid engine, and my daughter's "social life" only suffered a minor setback. :rolleyes:

Thanks Dad!

/Sidestory.

Now where were we? Oh yeah, time to GET BENT!

After stripping off all the plastics (and I still had my original cowl left from before the De-dumbo mod) here is what I have left for serviceable plastics:

No, the CB is not mine. It belongs to my buddy Wes.

I already have a new/used rear cowl, left cowl and VTEC tank, as well as a gauge surround and inner fairing "V" panel. Thenks EBAY.

And that's the best part, those two good body panels. It goes downhill from there. Well, more like a permanent right-hand turn than downhill....... :goofy:

And that is how she sits at the moment. Monday, call the insurance company, enquire about Ubuilt assigned VIN# and how it may/may not affect the insurance coverage/rates, then order new frame from RonAyers.com.

After that, siphon the fuel from the tank and see how the VTEC tank mounts up. You might be able to see a slight dent in the tank, just below the Honda wing:

Once I get the VTEC tank fitted (I even bought a rear tank hinge for a VTEC as well), then it box up all the parts and send them to Andrew Swenson for paint.

Stay tuned for more updates as things happen. :comp13:

As always, best of luck Rob. These things happen. About buying a new frame, are you having no luck at all finding a used one? How long have you been looking?

I'm wondering if you'll be better off by biding your time a bit with trying to find a used one. I'm sure you're anxious to work on it, but is it worth spending an extra thousand bucks for the pleasure of doing it NOW, when you can't even ride it yet anyway? New frames will always be available, but a good deal only comes around once in a while.

In the meantime, there is plenty to keep you busy! Clean, polish, paint, repair, restore, etc... maybe take a page from my book? I've been reassembling my 83 750 for what, 2 years now? :beer:

Good luck Rob, that's going to be a fair amount of wrenching. Does give you that chance for custom paint. Any possibility you can go back to the ins. co. for more money to cover the frame since it was their oversight?

How did the forks come through? They look twisted in the triples but not obviously bent.

SEBSPEED

As always, best of luck Rob. These things happen. About buying a new frame, are you having no luck at all finding a used one? How long have you been looking?

I'm wondering if you'll be better off by biding your time a bit with trying to find a used one. I'm sure you're anxious to work on it, but is it worth spending an extra thousand bucks for the pleasure of doing it NOW, when you can't even ride it yet anyway? New frames will always be available, but a good deal only comes around once in a while.

Well, I've been researching used frames, and all the ones I can find are already listed on CARFAX as having been in a wreck. SO, I takes my chances on a frame that may or may not be straight, has a salvage title, pay ~60% of new for it, pay $180 shipping on top of that, and the RIV doesn't recognize it as being a "vehicle", therefore I cannot "import" it, so I have to get a newly assigned VIN anyhow for $400, THEN after it's all assembled, the reassembled bike will STILL bear a salvage title for the rest of it's life, as the used frame came from a donor vehicle that was in an accident.

At least with a NEW frame, I am guaranteed it'll be straight, and the procedure for getting a VIN is the same, but when I'm done, since the frame is not from a salvage vehicle, I only have to pass a safety inspection, not a salvage inspection, and will have a clean non-salvage title on the bike.

{sigh} As well, it's still insurance money I'm spending, none out of my own pocket.

The only way I could get around this is to find a Canadian frame with no salvage designation, and the only way I can think that might happen is if the owner had an accident like a simple lowside, didn't report the accident, and parted out the bike. Highly unlikely. OR, the motor went and he parted out the bike. Again, highly unlikely to have a blown motor in a 5th gen.

I can call Re-cycle in Stony Plain tomorrow and ask, but I'm not holding my breath.

In the meantime, there is plenty to keep you busy! Clean, polish, paint, repair, restore, etc... maybe take a page from my book? I've been reassembling my 83 750 for what, 2 years now? :beer:

Yeah, I could be like you or Murray, but I don't have anything else to ride, and I really, REALLY want to go the the PNWVFR meet in Oregon in August.

vfrcapn

Good luck Rob, that's going to be a fair amount of wrenching.

Actually, I'm going to take a cue from rufrydrsc2 and leave the majority of the bike intact and just lift the frame off the motor like he did here:

And if I can pop out a 3.0 V-6 with one leg, I should be able to tackle this. Speed records will be not be set however. NASCAR pit crews will not pheer for their jobs just yet. :happy:

Does give you that chance for custom paint. Any possibility you can go back to the ins. co. for more money to cover the frame since it was their oversight?

How did the forks come through? They look twisted in the triples but not obviously bent.

The property damage claim is signed off as complete, and in the fine print of course, it says that there is NO legal recourse for further damage claims whatsoever on into infinity, etc........

The bodily damage is a whole different kettle of fish and entirely separate from the property claim.

The forks I have not measured yet, but will when they are removed. The LH one has the forward fender mount tab snapped off, but I have the tab, and it would be possible to JB weld it into place and repaint the lower portion of the fork.

I DO have another set of RC51 forks in good shape.

I don't have any fancy V-blocks or such for measuring, but I was thinking of gently chucking the fork legs up into the metal lathe at work, on the topmost part of the fork where the upper triple and clipon normally mounts, then starting the lathe VERY slowly, and work it up easy to a reasonable (slow-ish) speed that would show any bend in the fork as an off-center wobble. Clamping say, a popsicle stick in the lathe's tool mount should show any runout as increasing/decreasing clearance, no?

Do you think this would work? :comp13:

And custom paint, yeah, that's still in the pipe. White/black RC51 scheme like I had planned.

She'll be a KEEPER by the time I'm done! :huh:

Veefer800Canuck

Do you think this would work? :comp13:

I don't see why not.

Bummer about the frame being bent, by the time you find a good used one, you'd be better off just buying a used bike. sad.gif So how do you get your VIN onto the new frame and get it registered?

Good luck either way!

Ryanme17

Veefer800Canuck

Do you think this would work? :comp13:

I don't see why not.

Bummer about the frame being bent, by the time you find a good used one, you'd be better off just buying a used bike.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking...... time or money, one or the other.

sad.gif So how do you get your VIN onto the new frame and get it registered?Good luck either way!

A new frame comes without a VIN, and you cannot "transfer" your old VIN over to the new frame as that is akin to forgery or counterfeiting. Highly illegal and frowned upon. :happy:

I have to apply to Alberta Transportation, who works on behalf of the Insurance Bureau of Canada and recieve a brand-new (assigned) VIN as a "custom-built motorcycle", just like you would do if welding a custom frame for a bobber or a chopper and putting an old Harley 45 in it.

I already called Alberta Transportation and asked, the procedure is quite straightforward, only it isn't exactly free. :huh:

Veefer800Canuck

I don't have any fancy V-blocks or such for measuring, but I was thinking of gently chucking the fork legs up into the metal lathe at work, on the topmost part of the fork where the upper triple and clipon normally mounts, then starting the lathe VERY slowly, and work it up easy to a reasonable (slow-ish) speed that would show any bend in the fork as an off-center wobble. Clamping say, a popsicle stick in the lathe's tool mount should show any runout as increasing/decreasing clearance, no?

Do you think this would work? :comp13:

You should be perfectly ok checking the fork legs in a lathe. I would think that if your work has a lathe, there should also be a dial indicator floating around somewhere. A popsicle stick would show you an obvious bend, but the tolerance on the fork tubes is .008". For reference, the hair on your head is on average .010". To know for sure, you need an accurate way of measuring deflection.

Harbor Freight has cheap & decent dial indicators, maybe Princess Auto does too?

SEBSPEED

You should be perfectly ok checking the fork legs in a lathe. I would think that if your work has a lathe, there should also be a dial indicator floating around somewhere. A popsicle stick would show you an obvious bend, but the tolerance on the fork tubes is .008". For reference, the hair on your head is on average .010". To know for sure, you need an accurate way of measuring deflection.

Harbor Freight has cheap & decent dial indicators, maybe Princess Auto does too?

Actually, now that you mention it, they do have a dial indicator with a magnetic base in the millwright's tool room.

I should be able to rig that on the tool rest of the lathe. Thanks Sebby!

I am now downloading the RC51 service manual to double-check your runout measurement. :comp13:

OK, so I checked in the FSM for the RC51 and indeed, Seb is correct, it's 0.008 inches for the tube runout, but that's the INNER tube.

There is no spec for the OUTER tube whatsoever.

At least I saved the RC FSM to my flash drive for future reference. :comp13:

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Veefer800Canuck

OK, so I checked in the FSM for the RC51 and indeed, Seb is correct, it's 0.008 inches for the tube runout, but that's the INNER tube.

There is no spec for the OUTER tube whatsoever.

At least I saved the RC FSM to my flash drive for future reference. :comp13:

I would hazard to guess that the spec for the outer tube(more specifically, the BORE of the outer tube) will be the same, or tighter. Tolerances on mating/interacting parts don't generally vary from part to part. Makes sense, no? Why hold the tube to .008" and the slider to .030"?

Edit: On the other hand, if you find the tube to be in spec, your slider should be fine. It's stiffer, so the tube should bend first. If enough force was applied to the tube to bend it, you'd also see wear marks or scores in the slider bore.

Drained the fuel tank tonight, siphoned it out as far as I could get, then ran the bike for about 20 min to get all the fuel out that the pump could get.

Propped the tank up as it was dying to get the last dregs and kept it sputtering until it finally died right out and would not restart.

Drained the oil and removed the filter, might as well while it's hot eh?

So huge props to VFRD member FROZEN for tipping me off to this mod. I like the shape of the VTEC tank better, and the increased fuel capacity can only help.

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The front of the tank lines up perfectly, the spacing of the bolts is bang on.

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The rear, not so much. The two bolts are much further apart. What I did was to buy half of a 6th gen mount and will use a longer bolt to attach it to my 5th gen lower hinge.

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You can see that it lines up perfectly, I did have to bend the rear tank flange downwards ever so slightly to get the hinge bolt lined up just so:

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Finished product:

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And the 5th gen fuel cap bolts right in as well:

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Now tomorrow, I have to check the fit of the seat, and if that's a go, I'm all set for a new look fuel tank!

It is a tad wider at the front of the tank, and juts out a teensy bit from the framerails, but it's most apparent when the bike is stripped, and should be far less noticeable when the bodywork is on.

Looking good. :wheel: I'm keeping an eye out for a 6th gen tank too. Are you using the 6th gen fuel gauge sender or do they interchange?

Looks great Rob. Of course, you've checked with Dan to be certain that the 5th Gen blower top hat will fit under the 6th Gen tank... smile.gif

vfrcapn

Looking good. :wheel: I'm keeping an eye out for a 6th gen tank too. Are you using the 6th gen fuel gauge sender or do they interchange?

They are interchangeable.

The Phantom

Looks great Rob. Of course, you've checked with Dan to be certain that the 5th Gen blower top hat will fit under the 6th Gen tank... smile.gif

Well, since the 5th gen and 6th gen share the same air filter, I'm thinking that it would fit! :wheel:

:wheel:

Stunningly beautifull eldest daughter.............

this thread is useless without pictures......... tongue.gif

And I guess you put that cane to good use to put the fear of God into boys that come calling eh?

So how did your custom underseat exhaust come out of all this?

Veefer800Canuck

For everyone who told me to buy another bike and move on, you were right. :fing02:

I should have bought my wreck back for $650, bought another used Viffer, transferred over my mods and farkles over time, then EBAYED anything leftover that had any value or worth. :rolleyes:

Instead, I trusted the "structural engineer" from the insurance company who never said that the frame was bent. In my narcotic-addled mind, fresh out of the horsetable, it looked to me like the forks were bent. And I ASS-umed that if the frame had been bent, it would have been given "non-repairable" status rather than "repairable salvage" that they assigned to it. :rolleyes:

So here I am with a roomful of boxes, boxes full of shiny new (and grimy used) parts, bought and paid for, and I'm so far down the river now that it's too late to turn back.

Sounds like their mistake, Rob.

Tell them to make it right.

HispanicSlammer

So how did your custom underseat exhaust come out of all this?

No problems, just the license plate bracket is bent, I'll have to remake that, minor in the grand scheme of things.

SAFE-T

Sounds like their mistake, Rob.

Tell them to make it right.

Well, he never said that the frame WASN'T bent, and he didn't say that it WAS bent either.

Just that the bike was "repairable".

I guess everything is "repairable" if you replace 100% of the parts, one at a time, with new, eh?

I already signed off on the insurance settlement for the 'property damage', and in so doing, released them from all further claim in the matter, of course, 'bodily damage' is separate from that.

Right then.

How about selling the stuff you bought and wouldn't need if you just went and got a bike that works ?

Veefer800Canuck

So huge props to VFRD member FROZEN for tipping me off to this mod. I like the shape of the VTEC tank better, and the increased fuel capacity can only help.

Good luck first of all!

But, you should have read my last post in the tank topic. The new tank with old pump and sensor picks up only 20 liters (before the swap I got to the 20.8 liters refueling..)... I think It's maybe a different tank angle. I raised it's front a little, hope it may help..

Good luck Rob - quite a wrenching project you got ahead of you. The 6th gen tank looks cool.

MD

More good news:

I was thinking about getting a new frame from Ronayers.com, and it would have been $1164 shipped. But that's US pricing, then there's tax and duty, plus they said that Honda USA wanted my frame's headstock sawn off and sent to them, plus a copy of the title, plus a copy of my driver's license, I'm surprised they didn't want a kidney to boot.

But, the person answering the email was quick to reply and frank with me, so good customer service, even though I didn't buy anything.

With much fear and trepidation, I called my local Honda dealer and asked the price of the frame, and SHOCK AND AWE! $1140 Canadian!!!

Good thing I called now, because delivery is slated for late March, early April!!!!!!

Anyhow, I had to give a 50% deposit, and so now I wait.......

Off to the garage to test-fit the used bodywork with the new tank, some minor mods will be required to the fairing uppers, good thing I figured that out BEFORE paint. But really, it's just rounding off a couple of corners, pics to follow!

Frozen

Veefer800Canuck

So huge props to VFRD member FROZEN for tipping me off to this mod. I like the shape of the VTEC tank better, and the increased fuel capacity can only help.

Good luck first of all!

But, you should have read my last post in the tank topic. The new tank with old pump and sensor picks up only 20 liters (before the swap I got to the 20.8 liters refueling..)... I think It's maybe a different tank angle. I raised it's front a little, hope it may help..

Hmmm, I see, well I like the shape of the new tank better, the styling will really change up the look of the bike for the better, I think. So I'll keep it.

Will report back on the fuel range when I can.

Today was a day to test-fit the bodywork and boy am I glad I did.

Removed the 5th gen rear tank hinge and temporarily fitted the 6th gen one:

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I will have to make some spacers later so that the rear part of the tank cannot shift side to side, the spacers will go here:

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It looks like the bolt is hitting the tank flange, but it's not.

The seat junction worked out quite nicely:

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Seems that the wider front portion of the 6th gen tank causes interference with the fairing lowers here:

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So what else could I do but MOD THEM! (one good mod deserves another....)

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Other side, same thing:

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I'll hit them with some hand sandpaper to smooth the edges, as I did that with an angle grinder of all things. Slow and careful.

The gauge surround will need the same treatment on both sides, so I marked it off and will do it tomorrow, as I'm totally beat now.

Went to the doc and got my staples out before lunch, and it was about 7 hours of activity and walking after that, my legs are jello and my ankle is bitchy!

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So here is how it stands at the moment:

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Rainbow bike.

Veefer800Canuck

Rainbow bike.

:comp13:

Not so bad actually, but funny. (a yellow front faring would sute better thro, and black lowers on both sides :biggrin: ) Volkswagen made some rainbow car models in the early 90s, every part on it was diffrent color. was not a sucsess thro.

The 6th gen tank looks cool, and I think +1.gif on a new frame.

Gona be a great looking bike when ready for road again (after the frame and paint) :fing02:

keny

Veefer800Canuck

Rainbow bike.

:comp13:

Not so bad actually, but funny. Volkswagen made some rainbow car models in the early 90s, every part on it was diffrent color. was not a sucsess thro.

The 6th gen tank looks cool, and I think :fing02: on a new frame.

Gona be a great looking bike when ready for road again (after the frame and paint) :biggrin:

Ah yes, the very rare Harelquin Golf! Only 246 made worldwide!

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Keith?? Danny??

If it was me, I'd put centres in the head and tailstocks and rotate the tube by hand, checking with a dial indicator at the middle and quarter positions. Or put a piece of scrap in the chuck and machine a larger taper if you don't have a large enough centre.

Powering something which is overhung and possibly bent sounds like a not-good idea.

Glenn

Veefer800Canuck

I don't have any fancy V-blocks or such for measuring, but I was thinking of gently chucking the fork legs up into the metal lathe at work, on the topmost part of the fork where the upper triple and clipon normally mounts, then starting the lathe VERY slowly, and work it up easy to a reasonable (slow-ish) speed that would show any bend in the fork as an off-center wobble. Clamping say, a popsicle stick in the lathe's tool mount should show any runout as increasing/decreasing clearance, no?

Do you think this would work? :fing02:

I love the cane and the foot shot!

rdguy

If it was me, I'd put centres in the head and tailstocks and rotate the tube by hand, checking with a dial indicator at the middle and quarter positions. Or put a piece of scrap in the chuck and machine a larger taper if you don't have a large enough centre.

Powering something which is overhung and possibly bent sounds like a not-good idea.

I don't have any machining skills, just know enough to turn the damn thing on, and I hear you about the rotating mass thing, which is why I would have the lathe in "first gear" at idle, not "sixth" at redline.

SEBSPEED

Ah yes, the very rare Harelquin Golf! Only 246 made worldwide!

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I wonder why? :comp13:

"Instead, I trusted the "structural engineer" from the insurance company who never said that the frame was bent".

Stevie Wonder???????

Can't wait for paint!! Look'n pretty slick.

Hey Rob, I have a 5th gen Frame you can have, just pay shipping! :goofy:

BaileyRock

Hey Rob, I have a 5th gen Frame you can have, just pay shipping! :goofy:

I already ordered one from my local Honda dealer for $1100.

What is the title status on yours?

Veefer800Canuck

BaileyRock

Hey Rob, I have a 5th gen Frame you can have, just pay shipping! :wheel:

I already ordered one from my local Honda dealer for $1100.

What is the title status on yours?

Non-rebuild-able, but I would be tempted to..........

Can't you get a title easily up there with a Bill of Sale?

Sorry I'm late to the party! :goofy:

BaileyRock

Non-rebuild-able, but I would be tempted to..........

Can't you get a title easily up there with a Bill of Sale?

Sorry I'm late to the party! :goofy:

Nah, they will trace it and find the non-rebuildable status in the USA. I have to fill out a comprehensive form and present it to Alberta Transportation before they will allow the bike to be registered again.

We don't have "titles" per se, you just own the bike outright with a bill of sale, like a reciept for a pack of gum.

Also, your registration (license plate) documents show you as being the registered owner, which is about as close to a title as you get here.

I am required to report the VIN of donor vehicles on the rebuilding worksheet along with photographs of the damage before and after repairs. Anything that has been declared non-rebuildable is strictly off-limits.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/680.htm

I mean, I could use a signal light, that's fine, but wrecked chassis components bearing a VIN are Verboten.

Stripped the bodywork off in anticipation of paint.

Fixed this corner first though:

Rounded it off nicely to match.

Next will be sorting out some minor wiring issues and connectors that got messed in the accident.

Luckily I have a second wiring harness to use as parts.

Wait for the frame to arrive and while that is happening, check both front wheels for runout.

LH brake disc is toast, but the RH one I think is fine and resellable.

I crashed a couple track bikes with conventional forks and bent them pretty easily. I was excited to finally get a more modern track bike with USD forks, so as to (hopefully) not worry about bending the forks in a minor get off. Someone soon told me that the thicker USD uppers would more than likely bend the frame before the forks. Combine that with an older frame designed for conventional forks, and I guess the bent frame was inevitable in your case...

Progress looks good, so far! :fing02:

SEBSPEED

Ah yes, the very rare Harelquin Golf! Only 246 made worldwide!

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Hmmm... I've seen 2 different ones here (unless he got in it, and drove to the other end of town faster than I could). Maybe someone just made one themselves...

Glad to hear of the progress on the bike. I really like the way the 5th gen fairings sorta flow into the flat side portion of the 6th gen tank. I'm also shocked on that canadian frame price. Good find.

How much longer in the healing process?

magicman

Glad to hear of the progress on the bike. I really like the way the 5th gen fairings sorta flow into the flat side portion of the 6th gen tank. I'm also shocked on that canadian frame price. Good find.

Thanks, I took off the gauge surround and "shaped" the edges as shown above so they are more rounded and flow better with the sidepanels.

How much longer in the healing process?

Off topic, but I've abandoned the crutches completely and have gone 100% to the cane. Staples and sutures are out from the last surgery almost 3 weeks ago.

I'm walking better every day, and went to the gym today and worked out on the recumbent bike for ~30 mins.

Then, tried my hand on the elliptical machine, really, really easy going with no resistance, just seeing if it could be done. A little premature perhaps, as there is still a fair bit of pain during extension and flexion of the ankle joint, but the mid-stride feels fine on the elliptical. Maybe another week or two and it'll be better. It's doable, I just have to take it easy and be REAL careful getting on and off the machine. Good hand-holds are essential, and thinking of every move. In my state, you don't just "hop off" of anything!!

Good to hear you are getting around better, man.

Been off the forum for a while (new job is busy), but the bike looks cool with the 6th gen tank.

Bummer about the frame being bent.

I guess you are in it for the long haul now, he he.

Just thinking crazy here, but if your rebuild is the same as dealing with a custom bike, what about having a truss frame welded up for you? How much would that cost? Is your deposit on the frame non-refundable if you happen to find another deal for a frame?

Veefer800Canuck

Off topic, but I've abandoned the crutches completely and have gone 100% to the cane. Staples and sutures are out from the last surgery almost 3 weeks ago.

I'm walking better every day, and went to the gym today and worked out on the recumbent bike for ~30 mins.

Then, tried my hand on the elliptical machine, really, really easy going with no resistance, just seeing if it could be done. A little premature perhaps, as there is still a fair bit of pain during extension and flexion of the ankle joint, but the mid-stride feels fine on the elliptical. Maybe another week or two and it'll be better. It's doable, I just have to take it easy and be REAL careful getting on and off the machine. Good hand-holds are essential, and thinking of every move. In my state, you don't just "hop off" of anything!!

Great stuff Rob!

I'm two weeks support free! Get in the Pool my friend, just walking in the pool made a major improvement for me and I'm doing a bunch more in the pool now improving every day. :rolleyes:

Just do it!

BR

Q-Dawg

Just thinking crazy here, but if your rebuild is the same as dealing with a custom bike, what about having a truss frame welded up for you? How much would that cost? Is your deposit on the frame non-refundable if you happen to find another deal for a frame?

Well, it's a special order item, and judging from the lead time, it's coming from japan, so I cannot really fathom them welcoming a return.

I bought the bike to ride it, not sell it, so I guess I've got a LOT of riding to do! tongue.gif

Wicked to see your progress on all fronts, both mechanical and biomechanical... you and BR are my heroes!!

Can't you appeal the insurance report?? After all they were wrong!!

Auspañol

Wicked to see your progress on all fronts, both mechanical and biomechanical... you and BR are my heroes!!

Can't you appeal the insurance report?? After all they were wrong!!

It would be like fighting city hall as I've already signed a document months ago stating that it's a done deal.

The mechanical engineer from the insurance co. never said the frame WAS bent and he never said it WASN'T bent either.

Just that the "bike" was "repairable".

Really, anything is "repairable" if you replace each and every part, one at a time, with new! :goofy:

I know you are committed to the replacement path, but just for the sake of the discussion and future occasions to VFR riders, did you check into the relative cost of frame straightening? There are quickly Googled several businesses that guarantee exactly straight frames from wrecks, like Dr. John's that quotes $400-500 to straighten Japanese bikes. Adding in the cost of shipping and exchange rates makes it more, but versus cost of parts, re-titling makes it less....maybe. They also say they straighten rotors, fork tubes and sliders for pretty nominal prices. Mayhaps some VFRD'rs have actual info on success in these repairs. A number of the shops spec very precise measurements to their repairs, so I would tend to believe that repair adequacy is not in doubt. Anyone?

On the right frame spar, where the factory puts a hole for a screwdriver to adjust the idle, there are three stress marks radiating out from the hole, north, east and west.

I personally would not feel comfortable riding on a repaired frame that has been straightened, but that's just me.

I've bent enough things made from aluminum, then had them snap when I tried to srtaighten them. Simplistic analogy, yes, and I'm not saying that the frame would snap when bending it back, just that I don't like the thought, and this way, I won't have to think it because the bender frame is going to the recycle bin.

Next time I crack open a cold one, I just might be drinking out of my old frame! :beer:

Bodywork went in for paint today.

He's going to do the pearl white base and the black accents, then put the bodywork up and away safely until I get a rolling chassis together, then I'll bring the bike to him, we'll put the bodywork on temporarily, and he'll project the wing graphics onto the bike and trace them out to get everything aligned properly.

Since the wing graphics go across the fairing and up onto the fuel tank, simply painting them on the loose bodywork would invite serious misalignment and they'd probably look wonky.

This way, everything will line up 100%

Gotta love the ole projector trick! :blink:

Hope it comes out looking and running better than ever, Rob. :blink:

If I ever wreck a bike, I think I'll part it out.

Full coverage insurance is priced way too high, I don't buy that junk.

With the money I save in 5 years I can buy a good used bike. :wheel:

VFR4Lee

Hope it comes out looking and running better than ever, Rob. :blink:

If I ever wreck a bike, I think I'll part it out.

Full coverage insurance is priced way too high, I don't buy that junk.

With the money I save in 5 years I can buy a good used bike. :wheel:

I don't have full coverage either, just $1M in basic liability, plus fire and theft.

I wouldn't even have the fire coverage, but they roll it in together with the theft insurance.

It's her insurance that's footing the bill.

I don't have full coverage either, just $1M in basic liability, plus fire and theft.

I wouldn't even have the fire coverage, but they roll it in together with the theft insurance.

We're only are required to have liability.

Theft fire collision and comprehensive are all bundled together iirc.

Take all or none. I say none.

Then there's uninsured motorist for the idiot that doesn't have the "required" liability ins...

Fak, don't start me up. I'm paying to cover the uninsured jackaxe. :blink:

Fak, don't start me up. I'm paying to cover the uninsured jackaxe. :beer:

And his rent or mortgage, and his medical expenses, and his food, and his...

VFR4Lee

I don't have full coverage either, just $1M in basic liability, plus fire and theft.

I wouldn't even have the fire coverage, but they roll it in together with the theft insurance.

We're only are required to have liability.

Theft fire collision and comprehensive are all bundled together iirc.

Take all or none. I say none.

Then there's uninsured motorist for the idiot that doesn't have the "required" liability ins...

Fak, don't start me up. I'm paying to cover the uninsured jackaxe. :beer:

In NY, I can get 3 separate levels of coverage - liability only, liability + comprehensive, or liability + comp + collision. Comp covers acts of nature like falling tree branches, flood, DEER, etc, :fing02: Comp is cheap here and good to have, IMO.

Acts of Deer aren't much of an issue around here, there's not all that many. :3:

And I have doubts any vehicle insurance would cover a bike falling over due to an earthquake. :fing02:

I think it was when I got the CBR and they wanted around $2k a year to cover a $7k bike that I decided to drop full coverage. :goofy: Between the bikes I've had during the last 5 years, I bet I've saved $10k by going liability only. :goofy:

Of course, I haven't wrecked one either.

Scrubbed the swingarm, cleaned and flushed the bearings, will repack bearings tomorrow and reinstall swingarm except for torquing the pivot bolt.

The replacement LH footpeg holders and shift lever are at the powdercoating shop currently, should get them back Tuesday, then I can install both peg hangers and torque the swingarm pivot.

Guess what I got today???? :beer: :lurk:

WOW, I wasn't even expecting it at all. Got a phonecall from Greyhound, parcel to pickup, what the heck could that be?

I wasn't expecting it for another month!

True to form, no VIN on the frame, it's totally blank on the steering head, and no stickers of any kind on the frame.

Notice the different finish on the frame? The cast portions are really grey whereas the original frame is silver-ish. ???

The color diff is odd? I wander if the cast sections are protected in any way?

You're going to be rolling again in no time. :wheel:

Hypothetically speaking, what's to stop someone from transferring the VIN plate, punching the vin #'s in the head tube and presenting it for a salvage/repaired/recovered title? "Here's my bike, I fixed it.."

Glad to see it.

Hopefully, you'll have this on the road for the two-three really nice weeks of weather you'll get this summer. :wheel:

vfrcapn

You're going to be rolling again in no time. :wheel:

Hypothetically speaking, what's to stop someone from transferring the VIN plate, punching the vin #'s in the head tube and presenting it for a salvage/repaired/recovered title? "Here's my bike, I fixed it.."

Hypothetically, nothing. But then I would still have a "repaired salvage" status as that is attached to my original VIN # at the moment.

BUT, if they ever caught wind of that, it's a total fraud case and you're in Doo-Doo with the Dep't of Transporation.

I don't wanna find out.

Veefer800Canuck

vfrcapn

You're going to be rolling again in no time. :wheel:

Hypothetically speaking, what's to stop someone from transferring the VIN plate, punching the vin #'s in the head tube and presenting it for a salvage/repaired/recovered title? "Here's my bike, I fixed it.."

Hypothetically, nothing. But then I would still have a "repaired salvage" status as that is attached to my original VIN # at the moment.

BUT, if they ever caught wind of that, it's a total fraud case and you're in Doo-Doo with the Dep't of Transporation.

I don't wanna find out.

That's why I said it was only a hypothetical... wink.gif

Good point, a clean title in the end will be worth it.

Not only has Rob made the beast with two backs, he's put a photo of it on a public forum :wheel:

Good work. I like that dark cast bit, looks purposeful.

Getting the rear end sorted, slowly working towards the front.

Replacement Fleabay swingarm all cleaned and greased:

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New chain and sprockets fitted as well as a fresh Harris Hugger in CF.

Replacement footpeg hangar and shift lever fitted:

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Dang OE sprocket bolts are now too long with my (thinner) aftermarket sprocket.

Went to jet downtown and get some shorter ones, no dice, it was 9:02PM sad.gif

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Dubious Chinese Wavy rotor refitted on new/used axle.

First thread on the other side of the axle was dinged in one small spot, had to break out the jeweler's file and file it down so the 46mm nut would thread freely. OK now.

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Have to fit new shorter bolts for sprocket, will use grade 12.9 for peace of mind.

Also clean rear rotor, bolt up rear caliper, then onto removing the subframe and cleaning everything, straighten one subframe rail, reinstall exhaust, repair bent license plate bracket.

After that, remove front end and swap frame.

Stay tooned!

Go Robbie! :cheerleader:

:lurk:

ps - not sure if you want to lengthen your work list, but Redmarque adapted a single piston RR rear caliper to his bike - it would work perfectly with your F4i rear master. :cheerleader:

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ps - not sure if you want to lengthen your work list, but Redmarque adapted a single piston RR rear caliper to his bike - it would work perfectly with your F4i rear master. :beatdeadhorse:

Well, I have a spare brake caliper bracket, so maybe next winter........

Interesting thread and story.

Great job, and so far a great looking rebuild.

Sounds like the advice to just buy a second bike is well-founded. In my situation I'd just swap parts and not worry about numbers -moving a VIN plate from bike to bike doesn't bother me at all but I'm a cowboy. I've never heard of any cop ever checking the stamped VIN numbers on the frame. That sounds like more work than buying a dozen donuts and sitting out behind the tasty-freeze with the feet up on the dash with the radar gun running.

And since I only carry liability this whole "salvage vehicle" thing becomes moot. My current bike was thrashed but since there was no insurance involved I just picked it up from the towing company and brought it home. Lucky I didn't need to replace the frame but I wouldn't have made a deal of it if I had. No paperwork other than transferring the title to my name and buying plates. Nobody ever had any records of it being crashed and it never ended up in a salvage yard with a besmirched title.

We've got High School kids here beating each other to death with scrap lumber -they really don't pay much attention or have time to look at what numbers you have stamped on your headstock behind all those cable bundles... I doubt even if someone did notice that they'd send anyone to jail here for putting together a bike that the numbers don't all match here in the USA unless the parts had been reported stolen at one point. That's the whole point of the VIN anyhow -to discourage theft. I guess things are different up there.

It does look like you are getting to really know the bike with this rebuild and it will be time well spent IMHO whenever it comes time to work on it in the future as you'll know the bike like the back of your hand. Basic maintenance will be a snap for you after all this. The fact that you are going to have a completely unique bike with cross-generational parts will make it something special and "yours" more than anything you could ever buy in a catalog! I look forward to seeing the final product and the paint color/scheme you settle on to finish off all your hard work. I went cheap with my bike and just rattle-canned it with tractor paint after I found all the replacement bodywork on fleabay/VFR forums. Took me 4 years after I got it all together before I finally painted all to match -but I'm a procrastinator. I'm pretty happy with the way it works.

Rob,

Have you started the Frame yet?

It's not too bad a job! Pull the forks, actually looking at the pics we just left everything semi attached and worked the frame off. If I remember correctly the brake lines can remain intact front to rear as you guide the frame off the engine swingarm assm. An extra Body makes this a much easier job!

Got pics somewhere! :laughing6-hehe:

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BaileyRock

Rob,

Have you started the Frame yet?

It's not too bad a job! Pull the forks, actually looking at the pics we just left everything semi attached and worked the frame off. If I remember correctly the brake lines can remain intact front to rear as you guide the frame off the engine swingarm assm. An extra Body makes this a much easier job!

Got pics somewhere! :unsure:

Those are some NEAT pics of the rare yellow spineless Jellyfish VFR!

You just slid the frame off and left everything more or less connected by cables, wires, and the engine???

These photos made my day. I think it's the most amazing thing I've seen this whole winter. Being able to roll up one's sleeves and wade into a job like this is the kind of thing that impresses me more than most other things. I'm glad you got some pics of that. I need to start taking more pics of my projects. Pics or it didn't happen...

It HAPPENED! :laughing6-hehe:

Making progress. :lobby:

Veefer800Canuck

Dang OE sprocket bolts are now too long with my (thinner) aftermarket sprocket.

Went to jet downtown and get some shorter ones, no dice, it was 9:02PM sad.gif

Mo bettah:

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They are grade 12.9 so should be plenty strong enough. And no, the axle nut is not torqued nor staked yet. It's on the list.

I've been working 4 nightshifts, so progress is almost at a standstill save for the sprocket bolts. Yeah, I know, Big Whoop. :lobby:

BaileyRock

Rob,

Have you started the Frame yet?

It's not too bad a job! Pull the forks, actually looking at the pics we just left everything semi attached and worked the frame off.

Not yet, on nightshifts. Soon.

If I remember correctly the brake lines can remain intact front to rear as you guide the frame off the engine swingarm assm.

What you don't remember correctly is that I have no LBS. Heck, you rode the bike last year in CO, dincha? :lobby:

Srsly, yes, I do plan on lifting the frame just as you pictured. I got the clue from the fella that painted his Vtec frame this past winter.

Thanks for the pix, it shouldn't be too bad. I just wanna finish up the swingarm and rear subframe first and then work the frame. That way, I don't have too much disassembled at the same time. :goofy:

I need to remove the subframe, take it to work and put it in the big press and straighten the LH lower rail which is slightly tweaked. While that's off, I'll clean everything in sight as it's philthy. :blush:

Veefer800Canuck

Mo bettah:

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What make is that rear sprocket? Black looks cool :cheerleader:

keny

What make is that rear sprocket? Black looks cool +1.gif

Got it from Sprocket Center:

http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/16175/1/vfr-800f1-98-01.html

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Veefer800Canuck

keny

What make is that rear sprocket? Black looks cool +1.gif

Got it from Sprocket Center:

http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/16175/1/vfr-800f1-98-01.html

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From the pic looks like the logo on the sprocket is Drive Systems

I have a couple of questions: Doesn't running a fuel injected bike damage the injectors and the pump as it does with cars? I didn't quite catch the thing about fuel pumps and capacity/angle of the tank; what is the new fuel capacity with this mod, can you get it all out of the tank? Keep up the posts I'm watching this one with great interest.

Total capacity is 5.8 gal, up from 5.3 (as per Honda specs)

Dunno if I'll be able to get all of it out, member FROZEN says no on his.

I never run it right down anyhow, I always like to stop early for fuel when I'm on tour.

Mainly I like the look/angles of the tank as compared to the original one.

It'll make the bike more unique.

I will report back when I figure out the actual fuel range/capacity/refill amount.

Not much to report.

Did up the rear caliper, installed the rear wheel, torqued the 46mm Hay-soos nut on the rear axle. 150 ft/lbs!!! :excl:

Removed the back half of the exhaust system and the rear subframe. Need to straighten the RH lower subframe rail as it's pushed in about 6mm.

Doesn't sound like much, but it's making the passenger peg sit way off-kilter. I'll take it to work and use the big shop press.

Tried bending it back while ON THE BIKE, using the old, wrecked passenger peg hanger as leverage, but just cracked the hanger. Oh well, worth a try.

Frame swap is next on the agenda.

Straightened out the slight inward bend in the subframe. It isn't perfect, but it's really, really close. It's about 2mm further out than standard. Close enuf!

I put it in the press at work and it popped right back into shape with no probs. It was actually harder finding some scrap steel material and a couple of big sockets to use as props to direct the force where I wanted it to go.

A small alteration to the footpeg hanger bracket inner mounting surfaces should restore the last bit of alignment so the passenger peg will sit level and proper.

Better by far than getting another subframe and re-doing the aluminum undertray!

The photoshopped red line on the left was where the slight bend was. All the undertray rivets on that side popped out when I pressed it back, so I'll have to run about a half dozen new rivets in, then clean it up B4 install.

Still have to straighten the license plate bracket and clean up the exhaust system, swapping the frame should be on Monday/Tuesday.

Do work Rob! :woohoo:

Keep at it. You're almost there...

Sorry for your bad break with no humor intended at all. Yeah you're right, it could be worse. Right now you are making plans to rebuild your bike and in my book you've won the biggest lottery of all - LIFE! Okay, pep talk is over and here is to your speedy recovery! JD

Hey Rob, looks like its all starting to come together. looking fwd to seeing it person in troutdale..Right??. see you have a CB750custom had a black one until i crashed it, brings back fond memories.

Rob, I see you sourced a replacement swingarm. I don't recall you saying the original had been damaged, was it bent??

On the gas tank are you using the 6G fuel pump and/or sender? Or just your original 5G parts? I'd like the fit a 6G tank for the extra capacity but if I can't suck it out it isn't much worth it.

Looking good, best of luck the frame swap goes easily. :fing02:

jfviffer

Hey Rob, looks like its all starting to come together. looking fwd to seeing it person in troutdale..Right??. see you have a CB750custom had a black one until i crashed it, brings back fond memories.

Not my CB750, it belongs to my co-worker Wes.

He also has a VTX1800 and a Harley bagger, you can maybe see some of those bikes in the other pix.

He had a KLR650 too, but sold it semi-recently. He's single in case you couldn't figure that out. :laughing6-hehe:

vfrcapn

Rob, I see you sourced a replacement swingarm. I don't recall you saying the original had been damaged, was it bent??

On the gas tank are you using the 6G fuel pump and/or sender? Or just your original 5G parts? I'd like the fit a 6G tank for the extra capacity but if I can't suck it out it isn't much worth it.

Looking good, best of luck the frame swap goes easily. :laughing6-hehe:

Swingarm: the end of the axle and the 46mm nut took a hit. I removed the chain and put a 3 foot metal straightedge against the rear sprocket, right tight. It didn't line up with the front sprocket no-how. Was right in the MIDDLE of the front sprocket teeth. Made no matter if I shifted the front sprocket left to right in it's (limited) freeplay, it was still out of whack.

So, for the sake of being safe, I replaced the swingarm with a used unit. Sprockets now line up.

Gas tank: using 5th gen pump. My old tank had a (slight) dent in it from my right knee upon impact.

I like the styling of the 6th gen tank better, and I've already sold the original tank to a VFRd member who really really needed a decent tank.

Really, the dent was more of a slight depression, and it was only visible if you looked alongside the tank at certain angles.

It wound up to be quite a low-cost mod, once I deduct what I recouped from the original tank. Like about 40 bucks net. I'll buy that for the improved styling alone.

As for the range, I'll report back once I'm able to get the tank filled and emptied on the road.

Sorry to disappoint, but got called into work on my only day off this week, so no-fixie on the bikey. :unsure:

On the plus side, it's double-time, so whining about it isn't really an option! tongue.gif

Saturday, I promise!

Hi veefer800Canuck.

I'm new to these boards but since I live in your general area I thought I'd say hello and show you some pics of my bike before and after my get-off in Montana...

The new color is by Porsche - it's called 'Deep Olive Metallic'.

Good luck with your project and I hope my pictures give you a bit of added inspiration!

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Same bike - new parts and a new paint job...

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Back on the road again...

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Wow, you just joined today! Welcome CAFAN. :goofy:

Your bike sure looked messed up. So it was Pearl Conifer Green before?

Hopefully we can get together sometime and ride. :tour:

Veefer800Canuck

Wow, you just joined today! Welcome CAFAN. :goofy:

Your bike sure looked messed up. So it was Pearl Conifer Green before?

Hopefully we can get together sometime and ride. :tour:

It was Pearl Conifer Green (Teal Green) before. I guess my saving grace was that the stock forks were designed to bend much easier than the frame, so the frame was ok. Lots of other parts didn't fare so well, so from a purely monetary perspective it still cost me too much to fix (most parts were purchased new from the states). In the end it was worth it because the bike looks, runs and handles like new again - and we had a long history together, so I wasn't going to give up on it without a fight smile.gif

Hopefully your bike turns out just as well and we will get a chance to ride/tour together sometime. I'll try to keep up on your progress...

All the King's Horses and all the King's men......

The new VFR Interceptor Invertebrate!

Veefer800Canuck

All the King's Horses and all the King's men......

Oh dear!

Now is not the time to lose motivation! Keep at it!

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Silver wheel with tire is the crashed bent rim.

Black wheel with no tire is the replacement EBAY rim (not bent).

Any movement of the black rim is likely due to my shoddy camera work, cuz I didn't see any movement in person.

Damn steering head bearings. :laughing6-hehe:

Bottom race was brinelled, top race had some corrosion on it. :biggrin:

Called the giant industrial bearing supply place in Edmonton, they can get the bottom bearing, but it's in Toronto, and I'd have to pay shipping.

Top bearing they cannot get, the 26mm I.D. makes it "special".

There are a Zillion kits on EBAY, but the sellers are all located in the UK or Australia.

So, I just ordered another kit from All Balls. Hopefully they have switched suppliers and I don't get the KML brand bearings this time out.

I was HOPING to have the bearings on hand sooner so I could install them before putting the frame on the bike, but I guess I'll have to do it the hard way. :laughing6-hehe:

Oh, and on another note, I could see where the upper bearing was riding on the stem from the grease mark when I removed it. It's nowhere near hitting the step in the stem, so I'm going to forego the spacer in the frame and just use the one on the lower triple!

Thanks for the insight into the bearings Rob!

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I like your bike!!

What was your address again??

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Nice one Elwood. Isn't the address @ Wrigley Field 1060?

Nice one Elwood. Isn't the address @ Wrigley Field 1060?

Dayum, it was early. Shoot. :owned:

Dayum, it was early. Shoot. :owned:

What do I win? :D

The double prong looks interesting. Lemme know if you run into any trouble getting it welded, I could handle that for you if needed.

And finally, my attempt at making a "double pronged" shifter to work with my (non) ankle. I just need to finalize the position, remove the rubbers, clamp it together and have it welded solidly, then paint same.

I hope it works well enough that I don't need the electric shifter, because I would rather shift myself, if at all possible.

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Oh yeah, 2 weeks ago it was scorching hot and sunny. Today, it's right at the freezing mark and snowing.

Canadian weather, if you don't like it, wait 5 mins and it'll change!

(DON'T MENTION THE WAR!)

Inquiring minds want to know.

Looks and sounds great, excellent job on the rebuild.
Not being a fan of mirror extenders myself, have you considered getting a pair of BMW R1100S mirrors? They are a straight swap and a bit wider than stock 3rd-5th gen VFR mirrors.
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Okay you got me now, will those BMW mirrors really fit on the 5th gens?
I need a mirror thanks to going down Saturday and I'm tired of looking at my elbows and bags.

Okay you got me now, will those BMW mirrors really fit on the 5th gens? I need a mirror thanks to going down Saturday and I'm tired of looking at my elbows and bags.

They are very expensive, even used.

Uh-uh, it's not FLAT black!

Phantom approval granted.

Well it IS satin, which is close, right?

What made you decide against running the lines through the swing arm?

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Now, may I suggest that you immediately get that bike re-appraised to make sure that, god forbid, something else might happen to it, you are covered for your immense re-investment into that VFR.

Also. That is looking absolutely FANTASTIC! :fing02:

Thats too funny! But hat's off to you , looks like the hard work is paying off! BTW, how's the rest of your injuries doing? Soon be time to ride the colourful beast! I'm thinking an Evil Kenevil racing suit might be in order....!

Bike is great, done some riding in the last month. Over 12,000 km since the rebuild.

As for me, finally getting my shoulder fixed, and having two screws taken out of my heel on Jun 15th. They rub in my footwear and give me trouble after a long day.

Why the doc didn't countersink them so they sit flush with the bone I'll never know.

Wow! A great build and like no other.

You Sir are an inspiration.

It never ends. Went to the DMV today to re-register the bike for the season, and they balked, because their records show it as a 1999, but the IBC has deemed it a 2010.

My insurance is correct, the VIN matches, but the year is wrong, and it's the DMV's fault because they did not update their records 3 years ago when I provided them with the proper documentation at that time.

So, I couldn't find the paperwork, had to call the IBC, they sent me the records via e-mail, and by the time I got back to the DMV, they were closed.

Arrgh.

Government bureaucrats everywhere suck I guess. :comp13:

I'd say join AAA, but not sure if there's a Canadian analog, eh.

I went there to renew my license tag after I was reminded by Officer Friendly that it had expired. :sleep:

Oddly enough, they had no problems registering it for 2010 and 2011 and 2012..............

Oh, and ever since I got the bike in January of 2000, the DMV insists on calling it a VFR750.

Even though I explained it's a VFR800, they don't care. It has always said that on my registration.

WHAT-ev-errrrrrrrrrrrrr

WOW, what an incredible looking bike! :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHv5JTcXNc8

:goofy:

Love that!!! Little Britain!!

Compu'er sez nawwwww.

My fav is this one, sorry no embed, on iPhone:

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEMQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0n_Ty_72Qds&ei=ajNwUaq9K8euiQLfqIGQCg&usg=AFQjCNHHkweZcX-thK9Xc-XEBQlzCIrJ5Q&sig2=DXFgdsd6_FJAcyUEVbAzvg

Veefer800Canuck

Went for a ride today, about 60 miles. Beautiful afternoon. Stopped at the lake and snapped a few pics to show the past winter's mods.

Iphone, so it is what it is. Oh well.

Also the only place with anything resembling scenery anywhere near this town.

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Part of the winter mods must have been the gyros from a Segue to hold the bike upright when parked! :ph34r:

Wicked !!!!!

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'Veefer800Canuck

I don't have any fancy V-blocks or such for measuring, but I was thinking of gently chucking the fork legs up into the metal lathe at work, on the topmost part of the fork where the upper triple and clipon normally mounts, then starting the lathe VERY slowly, and work it up easy to a reasonable (slow-ish) speed that would show any bend in the fork as an off-center wobble. Clamping say, a popsicle stick in the lathe's tool mount should show any runout as increasing/decreasing clearance, no?

Do you think this would work? :comp13:

You should be perfectly ok checking the fork legs in a lathe. I would think that if your work has a lathe, there should also be a dial indicator floating around somewhere. A popsicle stick would show you an obvious bend, but the tolerance on the fork tubes is .008". For reference, the hair on your head is on average .010". To know for sure, you need an accurate way of measuring deflection.

Harbor Freight has cheap & decent dial indicators, maybe Princess Auto does too?

This post is quite old so it's likely that you have resolved your farm issue. Here in BC ICBC writes off motorcycles for fun. I bought a salvage 2000 viffer that had fairing damage and one slightly bent fork. I have been told by long time viffer owners that the stops are where to look to indicate frame damage. Bottom line is I have a good 2000 VFR frame in salvage status with the reggie if interested.

I wound up buying a brand new frame from Honda and the bike has been registered and on the road since June 2010.

Thank you for the thoughts.

Finally found this bike!!!!!!!!! This is the absolute best looking VFR IMO. LOVE IT! Now do you mind if I copy the paint scheme?

It is a beautiful example of a man and his VFR...

I believe you may even find it written up in a magazine somewhere...

Tews19

Finally found this bike!!!!!!!!! This is the absolute best looking VFR IMO. LOVE IT! Now do you mind if I copy the paint scheme?

Well they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so why not?

Post pics when you have some!