More Rumors

Nothing new here, but interesting nonetheless..

http://moto.caradisi...da-VFR-1000-803
http://www.motorevue.com/site/vfr-1000-le-...rces-25049.html

Regards,
Bruckner

[image: View Post]Bruckner, on Feb 8 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

Nothing new here, but interesting nonetheless..

http://moto.caradisi...da-VFR-1000-803
http://www.motorevue.com/site/vfr-1000-le-...rces-25049.html

Regards,
Bruckner

wish I could read it in english, care to provide the summary of what they are saying?

unfortunately I cannot speak or read French.

It doesn't reveal anything substantial really, the photoshop mock-up is the only bit of interest. They stress that the VFR in its current form has won universal appeal in Sport GT comparisons in specialized media although VFR fans aren't convinced, an odd comment considering the Sixth Gen is still a best seller today; they add that Honda may be looking at making the VFR an even sportier bike and a closer sibling to the RC30 and RC45 sports bikes. They hope the upcoming bike will feature inverted forks and radial brakes, along with a 1000cc V4.

Sounds like your typical wishful thinking if you ask me! I'm not sure they're on the right track, the VFR strikes such a beautiful balance between performance and usability, Honda already offers an entire line of dedicated sports bikes, why move the VFR away from a virtually competition free market segment? Frankly I doubt Honda is actually going this route..

Regards,
Bruckner

[image: View Post]Bruckner, on Feb 8 2008, 09:43 PM, said:

It doesn't reveal anything substantial really, the photoshop mock-up is the only bit of interest. They stress that the VFR in its current form has won universal appeal in Sport GT comparisons in specialized media although VFR fans aren't convinced, an odd comment considering the Sixth Gen is still a best seller today; then they add that Honda may be looking at making the VFR an even sportier bike (picture shows that, looks uncomfortable as hell) and make the bike a closer sibling to the RC30 and RC45 sports bikes. They hope the upcoming bike will feature inverted forks and radial brakes, along with a 1000cc V4.

Sounds like your typical wishful thinking if you ask me!

Regards,
Bruckner

thanks for the interpretation, of the Interceptor!

:thumbsup:

Translated




Appearing since a few tens of years in the top of the table of the category of the "Sport WP", it could be that 2008 are the year of the change for everlasting Honda VFR. Indeed, using since 2001 the V-tce and ABS, it did not mark as much as that the unconditional ones even if it still dominates and since always comparative "the Sport WP".

In order to give again a more sporting heart with its VFR, Honda could position its reference towards more sportivity to resemble to these ancestors the RC30 and RC45. Dimensioned design features, one would enjoy oneself in even the arrival of a radial brake and a reversed fork. As regards the motorization, it would take 200 DC moreover (passing from 800 DC with 1000 DC) while preserving famous V4 with a little more couple and of Watt.

Aren't those the same photoshops that have been floating around since 2006 or so?

There are leftover 04s still sitting around in crates I think. I have my doubts that Honda will ever update the V4 line. Of course if they did, maybe people would start buying the damn things, but I won�t count on Honda to think the same way.

[image: View Post]jeremy556, on Feb 8 2008, 08:51 PM, said:

Aren't those the same photoshops that have been floating around since 2006 or so?

There are leftover 04s still sitting around in crates I think. I have my doubts that Honda will ever update the V4 line. Of course if they did, maybe people would start buying the damn things, but I won�t count on Honda to think the same way.

In the USA yes, but elsewhere the VFR is a best-seller, Europeans are big fans. I'm confident the model will stay on the lineup, we may have to wait a little longer but that's fine by me, the current generation VFR is IMO perfectly up to date!

Regards,
Bruckner

My problem is not with my VFR, my problem is with the weather. I haven't ridden it in a couple of months. I love to ride over the passes and tour around Eastern Wa, BC, etc, but the passes have been closed off and on lately due to snow.

My VFR is a 2004, I've got a K&N filter and Remus Titanium pipes and a custom seat cover. It looks and runs great and I have 34,000 miles. I'll be taking it in for the ground wire recall as soon as the weather allows. Until then I'm planning my big summer trek. I usually do two weeks at a time, but am thinking of a month long trip.

So, to sum up, I'm curious if Honda will bring out a higher performance VFR, but I'm not really interested in something that will compete horespower-wise with the big Kaw. 1400 cc st.

I was just reading about the 990 MotoGP bike. Would anybody else like a V5 VFR? That would be an easy liter. I believe it should remain the type of bike it is though. The CBR1000 is fine by itself, Honda doesn't need another sportbike.

[image: View Post]Kanadian Ken, on Feb 8 2008, 09:30 PM, said:

[image: View Post]Bruckner, on Feb 8 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

Nothing new here, but interesting nonetheless..

http://moto.caradisi...da-VFR-1000-803
http://www.motorevue.com/site/vfr-1000-le-...rces-25049.html

Regards,
Bruckner

wish I could read it in english, care to provide the summary of what they are saying?

unfortunately I cannot speak or read French.

Yeah, it's like those French have a different word for everything.

well since this is about 7th gen rumors..

No one has said a thing about the pic in dutchy's MC show thread with the V5 prototype honda engine with after market exhaust,

Supposedly for the next vfr

Quote from Dutch's post..........................................
Laser expects the 7th gen VFR having a V5....
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[image: View Post]marid2apterbilt, on Feb 11 2008, 07:51 AM, said:

well since this is about 7th gen rumors..

No one has said a thing about the pic in dutchy's MC show thread with the V5 prototype honda engine with after market exhaust,

Supposedly for the next vfr

That's no more than a mock-up, a pretty lousy one at that!!

I would be very surprised if Honda put a V5 in the next generation VFR, I think they'd keep that for the Blackbird replacement, something outrageous for an outrageous bike, but I could be wrong.

Regards,
Bruckner

[image: View Post]marid2apterbilt, on Feb 11 2008, 02:51 PM, said:

well since this is about 7th gen rumors..

No one has said a thing about the pic in dutchy's MC show thread with the V5 prototype honda engine with after market exhaust,

Supposedly for the next vfr

Quote from Dutch's post..........................................
Laser expects the 7th gen VFR having a V5....
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Credit due where credit is due, it was V4 Rosso who posted this picture in a thread he started.... I just tagged along and dumped my pictures later........


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[image: View Post]Bruckner, on Feb 8 2008, 09:43 PM, said:

It doesn't reveal anything substantial really, the photoshop mock-up is the only bit of interest. They stress that the VFR in its current form has won universal appeal in Sport GT comparisons in specialized media although VFR fans aren't convinced, an odd comment considering the Sixth Gen is still a best seller today; they add that Honda may be looking at making the VFR an even sportier bike and a closer sibling to the RC30 and RC45 sports bikes. They hope the upcoming bike will feature inverted forks and radial brakes, along with a 1000cc V4.

Sounds like your typical wishful thinking if you ask me! I'm not sure they're on the right track, the VFR strikes such a beautiful balance between performance and usability, [size="2"]Honda already offers an entire line of dedicated sports bikes[/size], why move the VFR away from a virtually competition free market segment? Frankly I doubt Honda is actually going this route..

Regards,
Bruckner


What full line of dedicated sport bikes? Under sport bikes the two CBRs are listed with the VFR (and I believe the discontinued 919) on Honda's web site as the only sport bikes. :goofy: They do however have a very full line of scooters, an impressive array of cruisers and are positively bursting at the seams with off road bikes.

"Throw me a frickin bone here...all I want is a frickin shark with a frickin laser beam attached to his frickin head." And if I can't get that, just one V-4 in RR trim with an adequate suspension and brakes.

Not that these fake pix mean anything...Honda should already know that we want upgraded suspension unless they care so little that they dont even monitor the forums on their products.

[image: View Post]cornercarver, on Feb 11 2008, 09:16 AM, said:

[image: View Post]Bruckner, on Feb 8 2008, 09:43 PM, said:

It doesn't reveal anything substantial really, the photoshop mock-up is the only bit of interest. They stress that the VFR in its current form has won universal appeal in Sport GT comparisons in specialized media although VFR fans aren't convinced, an odd comment considering the Sixth Gen is still a best seller today; they add that Honda may be looking at making the VFR an even sportier bike and a closer sibling to the RC30 and RC45 sports bikes. They hope the upcoming bike will feature inverted forks and radial brakes, along with a 1000cc V4.

Sounds like your typical wishful thinking if you ask me! I'm not sure they're on the right track, the VFR strikes such a beautiful balance between performance and usability, [size="2"]Honda already offers an entire line of dedicated sports bikes[/size], why move the VFR away from a virtually competition free market segment? Frankly I doubt Honda is actually going this route..

Regards,
Bruckner


What full line of dedicated sport bikes? Under sport bikes the two CBRs are listed with the VFR (and I believe the discontinued 919) on Honda's web site as the only sport bikes. :goofy: They do however have a very full line of scooters, an impressive array of cruisers and are positively bursting at the seams with off road bikes.

"Throw me a frickin bone here...all I want is a frickin shark with a frickin laser beam attached to his frickin head." And if I can't get that, just one V-4 in RR trim with an adequate suspension and brakes.

Not that these fake pix mean anything...Honda should already know that we want upgraded suspension unless they care so little that they dont even monitor the forums on their products.


Are you telling me you see any marketing logic in moving the sports touring VFR closer to the CBR1000RR racer? I don't!!

And regarding the monitoring of forums, I'm not sure you could derive even a rough consensus on what people want the next VFR to be. I trust Honda's marketing department is very capable of producing the specs for the most universally appealing VFR their engineering department can produce.

I maintain, there is no rush for this new model to hit the showrooms. Only hardcore sports bikes get redone every second year for sole bragging rights, other bikes get updated as technology and needs change, as I see it the current generation VFR is as appealing today as it was in 2002.

Regards,
Bruckner

ll I want is :DONE LOUSY CYLINDER!

I want a 390 pound, gear driven cam V4-800cc bike with the same riding position we have now.
I want USD forks, ram air, radial brakes, SS Swingarm (carbon fiber would be nice), and fully adjustable suspension.

Is that too much to ask???

[image: View Post]keithroxx, on Feb 11 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

I want a 390 pound, gear driven cam V4-800cc bike with the same riding position we have now.
I want USD forks, ram air, radial brakes, SS Swingarm (carbon fiber would be nice), and fully adjustable suspension.

Is that too much to ask???

O.K. 100lbs. LESS would be a nice feature too!!!

They should make a VFR AND a RC version.

Only, make the RC version available to mortals, like in the cost range of a 1098.






Not holding my breath.