Best Handlebar Option? Lsl, Heli, Converti

Tried risers, but want a little more up/back to take a little more weight off the wrists (I'm a tourer-type, but like this bike).

More importantly, I also want a more conventional/neutral angle from the forearm through the wrist. Stock bar position forces hands outward at wrists and that causes wrist/forearm discomfort. I love the superbike bars on my other bikes, as they give a more ergonomically neutral position than do clip-ons.

LSL Spieger - Like the concept, but have a '98 and understand you "have" to remove the inner fairing cover behind the mirrors to use these (apparently regardless of bar bend/rise. Anybody with a '98-'01 know for certain whether that's true or not?

Helibars - Like the idea and execution, and no fairing mod required, but they tout the fact the bar angle is same as stock, which I'm trying to avoid. Anybody know for sure if the Helibars can be angled outward some to achieve the neutral wrist angle I'm after?

Convertibars - Like the idea, though not the expense. They recommend the longer lines, but I would hope I could go high enough with the stock lines. Again, for me it's more about the angle than the height.

I'm leaning toward the LSLs, but don't want to modify the fairing or w/s or remove pieces, etc. to make it work.

For those who have experience with these bar options, which option do you think would best meet my needs?

(to save space/time, let's assume I'm an athlete with a strong back who has ridden in the stock position for years, trained muscles to cope, etc. I'm just looking for recommendations on the change, not for living with the stock setup.)

Thanks for any help.

The Heli Bars are very nice and will give you full adjustability of the bar angle as they can be rotated around the top of the fork tube by simply loosening the pinch bolt. Just have to make sure they don't hit the fairings or fuel tank when the steering head is turned to full left / right. With the Heli Bars, the only modification needed is to cut the little tab off of the front brake master cylinder. Easy to do with a Dremel tool and a cutting wheel. It is also a good opportunity to install some new grips.

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[image: View Post]johnmark101, on Apr 13 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

The Heli Bars are very nice and will give you full adjustability of the bar angle as they can be rotated around the top of the fork tube by simply loosening the pinch bolt. Just have to make sure they don't kit the fairings or fuel tank when the steering head is turned to full left / right. With the Heli Bars, the only modification needed is to cut the little tab off of the front brake master cylinder. Easy to do with a Dremel tool and a cutting wheel. It is also a good opportunity to install some new grips.

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Thanks for the info and great pic. Pls confirm that you could have shortened the bars (not dropped them) by simply cutting some off of the ends and sliding the bar add-ons upstream a bit.

Also, I like to rotate the brake lever down a bit, something I can't do with the stock clip-ons. Looking at your great pic, it appears the same is true (possibly to a lesser extent than with the stock setup) with the helibars - true? And if "true," do you find the brake lever is able to rotate enough with the helibars such that you find don't need the wider adjustability of a typical handlebar?

Thx for your help with this.

i have these and they can be adjusted fine:

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...23&hl=wrist

[image: View Post]turtlecreek, on Apr 13 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

i have these and they can be adjusted fine:

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...23&hl=wrist

I thought I'd found every thread discussing any of these bars - that one I missed. Thx for the helpful lead - looks like the helibars can be rotated "out" and the brake lever rotated "down" - next question (probably for a 5th gen person, given the dimensional diffs of the cockpit/screen), can I get them far enough "out" (to achieve the neutral wrist issue that you described in your initial post to that thread) without running into the fairing upper? Touching's OK, but I want to avoid having to keep the heli's cocked to the stock angle just to avoid major fairing fouling.

Thx for any help. If these things were cheaper, I could afford a mistake or two, but I want to get it right the first time. :biggrin:

There is some room to rotate them forward and still have fairing clearance. Remember however, that when you do this, you increase the reach to the bars a bit which defeats the purpose of having the Heli Bars just a little.

[image: View Post]johnmark101, on Apr 13 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

There is some room to rotate them forward and still have fairing clearance. Remember however, that when you do this, you increase the reach to the bars a bit which defeats the purpose of having the Heli Bars just a little.

True. That's the only thing holding me back on the helis. I think I would prefer the greater options with the LSL, so long as I don't have fairing clearance issues. I'm hoping to hear from a 5th gen LSL user on this issue. I could probably live with the added reach on the helis, however. Thx

[image: View Post]Misspent Youth, on 13 April 2008 - 05:29 PM, said:

LSL Spieger - Like the concept, but have a '98 and understand you "have" to remove the inner fairing cover behind the mirrors to use these (apparently regardless of bar bend/rise. Anybody with a '98-'01 know for certain whether that's true or not?





What turned out to be the answer to this question? I'm interested in the Spieglers for a 5th gen as well.

thanks!

Has anybody ever compared to the different bar options to see which one will give the MOST raised bars? I don't care so much about adjustability as I do with overall height. Are the GenMars the cheapest option?