Just Found This Not Sure If You All Have Seen It Yet

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2008/11/...model.html#more

Pffft. Moto-sculpture.


Remember the "NAS concept bike"?

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That thing looked more realistic as a production model than that Guggenheim design sculpture thingy with no tires.



.....and it never made production.

http://www.vfrdiscus...showtopic=46114

[image: View Post]Rice, on Nov 5 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

http://www.vfrdiscus...showtopic=46114

Saw that thread but this article just came out saying that Honda announced when the new V4 is coming out and did you read what was said about the vfr?

I think this forum should be shut down until someone ACTUALLY owns a seventh gen VFR.

The new VFR is like the new Duke Nukem game of the gaming world!

:schla15: Uh huh...

Every time I see one of these threads I just "hear" Charlie Brown's mom talking.

[image: View Post]veefer800canuck, on Nov 5 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

Pffft. Moto-sculpture.


Remember the "NAS concept bike"?

[image: Posted Image]

That thing looked more realistic as a production model than that Guggenheim design sculpture thingy with no tires.



.....and it never made production.
The NAS could have been the proper successor to the Hawk GT 647!
The "Super Chicken" really dissapointed a lot of Hawk fans (including me) that were expecting something much more exciting.
BTW, where's the radiator for the NAS?? I only see what looks to be an oil cooler under it's headstock.

Beck
95 VFR

[image: View Post]Beck, on Nov 5 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

[image: View Post]veefer800canuck, on Nov 5 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

Pffft. Moto-sculpture.


Remember the "NAS concept bike"?

[image: Posted Image]

That thing looked more realistic as a production model than that Guggenheim design sculpture thingy with no tires.



.....and it never made production.
The NAS could have been the proper successor to the Hawk GT 647!
The "Super Chicken" really dissapointed a lot of Hawk fans (including me) that were expecting something much more exciting.
BTW, where's the radiator for the NAS?? I only see what looks to be an oil cooler under it's headstock.

Beck
95 VFR




It don't need no stinkin radiator, man :warranty:

trav72, on Nov 5 2008, 04:17 PM, said: Every time I see one of these threads I just "hear" Charlie Brown's mom talking. Uh.......... you mean Teacher don't you???

[image: View Post]Beck, on Nov 5 2008, 02:25 PM, said:

BTW, where's the radiator for the NAS?? I only see what looks to be an oil cooler under it's headstock.

Beck
95 VFR


Under the seat.

[image: View Post]elevation, on Nov 5 2008, 03:56 PM, said:

I think this forum should be shut down until someone ACTUALLY owns a seventh gen VFR.

The new VFR is like the new Duke Nukem game of the gaming world!

lol You talking about Duke Nukem forever? I had forgotten about that game. Its NEVER coming out! Its just vaporware. lol

This could be true,but no mention of it on the Honda corporate website,which has all press releases for the year.

http://corporate.hon...press/list.aspx

I think I'll go with what Honda says over Hellforleather. :laugh:

With my super superior publicly educated bulletproof brain , I have one thing to say.........It ain't a-gonna happen.

I was in my local Honda shop last week for a filter and a gallon of oil and roamed the showroom for a bit before a guy came over to see if I had any questions. I asked about the one and only silver '08 VFR on the showroom floor. He said it was "ten-ish" on the price. Then he went to look something up for a few minutes and when he returned he proclaimed that these are available in ABS as well! Oh my! Picking up on his uncommon abilities, I asked about hard bags. He disappeared again and returned a short time later with the astounding fact that "Hard bags ARE available too"! I was tempted to ask how much ABS and bags were but I figured the guy had learned enough for the day and probably needed a break. Where do they get some of these people? I know you have to learn sometime, but come on. He did offer up the news that Honda is offering the '09 in black again but couldn't tell me if it was the asphalt, bass boat, or just plain gloss black. - and no BNG for '09 either.

The week that Honda North America announced their official model line-up for 2009, I asked the local salesman what the poop was regarding the rumours about the new VFR (1000cc, V5, etc). His reply was that "according to Honda" there was going to be a V4 in 2010, and that it would displace 1000cc. It's looking more and more like he maybe might be kinda close to the mark...or not :laugh:

You gotta admit though, 1 liter V4 would be sweet, VTEC notwithstanding

DDO-VFR

[image: View Post]trav72, on Nov 5 2008, 04:17 PM, said:

Every time I see one of these threads I just "hear" Charlie Brown's mom talking.


Remember when Lucy would hold the football and Charlie Brown would try to kick it?


That's what waiting for Honda is like.

What ever Honda is cooking up (if anything), it is hard to say what it will be. Personally I wish they do the NR again, or develop a 1000-1200cc V6. I think the V5 is an oddball engine, just like the VW L5 turbodiesel (it sounds just plain WEIRD). I am not impressed with the latest crop of organic/sharp edged looking cookie-cutter bikes out there. I wish they looked like the old RS750/860/1000 bikes of the '80s, smooth and flowing bodywork and functionality. Oh well, time will tell.
Obakemono

More info/ rumours here:

http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2008/11/hon...v4-powered.html

Not sure that this has not popped up before but I found this last night!

http://www.honda-v4.eu/en/en/Home

No news from Honda yet.

[image: View Post]mznyc, on Nov 5 2008, 08:48 PM, said:

This could be true,but no mention of it on the Honda corporate website,which has all press releases for the year.

http://corporate.hon...press/list.aspx

Those are only press releases from Honda North America, not Honda itself. Here's the official release:

Honda Announces V4 Model Production and Further 2009 Motorcycle Models

V4 model production in 2010 announced with updated Hornet 600 and best-selling SH scooter family debuted in Italy

Honda has announced the much anticipated news of its intention to commence production of the first V4 model in the first half of 2010 at this week�s Milan show and, showcased the final new motorcycle models for 2009 to include the stylish and ever-popular SH125i scooter, technical and design revisions to the legendary CB600F Hornet, as well as a next generation transmission system.

V4 Production
The exciting news of the V4 production model is the result of overwhelming response from customers, media and motorcycle dealers across Europe following the debut of the V4 Concept Model at last month�s Intermot show, where the world�s largest motorcycle manufacturer chose �New Beginnings� as its theme to celebrate Honda�s 60th anniversary as a company, 50th anniversary of racing and 30th anniversary of the Honda�s iconic V4 engine configuration.

Building on this theme at this week�s Milan Show, Honda highlighted the next stage of the V4 story and looked forward to the next 60 years of motorcycle production, with V4 technology forming a part of the marque�s future direction in the coming few years, starting in just 18 months time with the introduction of the first V4 mass-production model in the first half of 2010.

SH125i and CB600F Hornet
Honda�s 2009 road-going debutantes at the Milan Show include the revised CB600F Hornet and new SH125i scooter, both of which will be available in the UK next season.

Celebrating 25 years on the road in 2009, the �SH family� has become the best selling scooter range in Europe. The original SH of 1984 became a familiar sight on city streets with its distinctive high wheels, flat footboard and generous carrying space. It further pioneered many features now deemed �normal� for scooters including the use of four-stroke power in the third generation SH from 2001 and fuel-injection in 2005, when the SH series was a whole year ahead of the latest Euro III emissions regulations. The SH range has always boasted frugal fuel economy with style and elegance and the 2009 SH125i has all these attributes with fuel consumption of 96mpg (or 21 miles per litre)*. With the SH125�s 7.5 litre fuel tank, that equates to a superb 157.5 miles of motoring for less than �7.50 at today�s prices**. Also continuing its impressive environmental position, the SH125 further boasts emissions of just 69.522g/km � dramatically lower that the 2008 year to date average new car CO2 emissions of 158.6g/km.

The latest and fifth generation SH125i has many significant updates to keep it ahead of the pack and offers the perfect combination of convenience, practicality, economy, comfort and safety. The overall styling of the SH range has been altered with the front profile of the SH125i now smoother and more graceful, fitting in perfectly with the tapered new rear section of the scooter. The SH logo is now embossed on the flanks of the scooter, heightening the overall style.

Some important dimensions have also changed. The seat height is now 10mm lower than its predecessor�s making the SH125i more manageable for smaller riders, while those longer in the leg will enjoy the 20mm extra leg-room over the �08 machine. Pillions will also enjoy the new fold-away foot-pegs, now finished in the same colour as the lower bodywork. Safety elements are also further enhanced thanks to improved braking performance provided by the new 240mm rear brake disc, although both the new disc brake and current drum brake models will be available in 2009. The SH125i will be available in some eye-catching colours of Quasar Silver Metallic, Pearl Acid Yellow, Pearl Cool White, Velvet Red Metallic, Pearl Montana Blue and Pearl Night Star Black.

Honda�s hard-hitting middleweight naked � the CB600F Hornet � features mild revisions for 2009, including an updated instrument panel layout and aesthetic changes � including black metallic parts and a new and exciting colour range. Colours now include Pearl Nightstar Black, Pearl Siena Red, Pearl Cool White (with stripes) Quasar Silver Metallic (with stripes) and a vibrant new Pearl Acid Yellow colour.

Added to the looks are more adjustability to the suspension front and rear, with compression adjustment offered in addition to the pre-load adjusters on the rear shock and front forks.

Next Generation Transmission
Another important announcement focused on Honda�s development of Next Generation Transmission. Based on dual clutch technology, this revolutionary new system offers the same practical advantages as two manual gearboxes in one, combining the advantages of race and road transmission set-ups, to provide a dynamic and smoother gear shift with less impact on the chassis.

For many years, racing motorcycles have enjoyed the advantages of quick-shifter set-ups, where electronics have aided the rider on up-shifts of the gearbox. Cars have also benefited from similar technology with both paddle gear-shift and tiptronic gear selection systems, many of these systems derived from racing. In the future, Honda believes its Next Generation Transmission will help improve riding experience coupled with better fuel economy and more efficient power transfer than a conventional manual transmission.

With the trend towards customer desire now focusing as much on style as performance and technology, Honda is embracing this challenge to ensure design and engineering now play a more equal part in the development of motorcycles, coupled with Honda�s continuing importance placed on safety and the environment. Future Honda machines will therefore embrace the Japanese modern design principles of �Ma� and �Tsuya�. �Ma� looks at the space between things and represents the context into which a design is placed, while �Tsuya� focuses on the lustre and visual charm of something � how the lines, the curves and angles bring a design to life.

Prices and UK availability dates are yet to be finalised for each of Honda�s 2009 models, but the new motorcycle models can be seen in the UK on Honda�s stand (1D20 � Hall 1) at the International Motorcycle and Scooter Show at the NEC in Birmingham, from 28 November � 7 December 2008.

For further information about Honda�s great range of scooters and motorcycles call 0845 200 8000, visit www.honda.co.uk or visit your local dealer. Honda motorcycle dealers can be located using the �Dealer Search� facility within the motorcycles area of www.honda.co.uk, where you can also find all the latest news and information, offers, genuine parts and accessories and forthcoming events.

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You'll see that we quote from that release in the article: 2010 Honda V4 - Hell For Leather

We also cover the new transmission: Honda Dual Clutch Transmission - Hell for Leather

I understand that you want to apply some critical thinking to things, which is good, but everything on the internet isn't a rumor.

Wes

This morning I was talking to a guy that told me Honda is redesigning every single one of their bikes for the '10 model year. Something to do with it being their anniversary and it being a big deal to them.