Headlight Modulator Idea For 6th Gen

Hi all,
I'm helping out a friend and am looking into headlight modulators and had the idea that we could use the unused high beam filament as the headlight modulator and leave the rest of the system as-is.
I'm thinking of running a new fused power line from the battery to the modulator.
One of these:
https://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?...uct=P115W-H3-HD

Is this is easy as I think it is?
Any issues accessing that lug on the H4 base?

Thanks in advance.

This one..

https://www.kisantech.com/view_product_pop....oduct=P115W-S-D

comes up when the VFR is selected and it's for the high beams. Looks plug and play as well. Thinking of getting one myself maybe.

[image: View Post]jasonsmith, on Jul 16 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

This one..

https://www.kisantech.com/view_product_pop....oduct=P115W-S-D

comes up when the VFR is selected and it's for the high beams. Looks plug and play as well. Thinking of getting one myself maybe.

Thanks, was going down that road then started thinking about the unused high beam filaments. If I used the H4 high beams, I could have Low beams, H7 high beams AND modulated H4 high beams at the same time.

Oh, obviously I would us a relay and power it with a switched power source. Should have mentioned that in my original post.

[image: View Post]jmardy, on Jul 16 2009, 09:27 PM, said:

[image: View Post]jasonsmith, on Jul 16 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

This one..

https://www.kisantech.com/view_product_pop....oduct=P115W-S-D

comes up when the VFR is selected and it's for the high beams. Looks plug and play as well. Thinking of getting one myself maybe.

Thanks, was going down that road then started thinking about the unused high beam filaments. If I used the H4 high beams, I could have Low beams, H7 high beams AND modulated H4 high beams at the same time.

Oh, obviously I would us a relay and power it with a switched power source. Should have mentioned that in my original post.


You'd have all of the filaments on at once! In a system that already barely puts out enough power, I don't think this would be a good idea, unless your charging system was in top-shape or beefed up.

I use an older version of Signal Dynamics headlight modulator. I think it is exactly the same as the one they make now except mine will make my headlights flash when I beep the horn. (Even at night... which is illegal)

I have mine wired into the lower pair of bulbs. I am running FI*X*ER"S (actually my own variation) headlight mod. So my modulator will cause either the low or high filaments of the lower pair to pulse.


I am a huge fan of modulators... I can attest to the fact that they get attention. They are also great for causing traffic to part in front of you.... people must think I am a cop or something.



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[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Jul 17 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

You'd have all of the filaments on at once! In a system that already barely puts out enough power, I don't think this would be a good idea, unless your charging system was in top-shape or beefed up.
I've been running this way for about 20K miles with no ill affects. Granted I may be running on borrowed time, but it has worked for me so far. I also don't run my high beams unless I need them, as in if I'm out in the sticks they will be on. BTW, my charging system is completely stock. :unsure:

[image: View Post]hondalover, on Jul 17 2009, 01:40 AM, said:

[image: View Post]Ryanme17, on Jul 17 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

You'd have all of the filaments on at once! In a system that already barely puts out enough power, I don't think this would be a good idea, unless your charging system was in top-shape or beefed up.
I've been running this way for about 20K miles with no ill affects. Granted I may be running on borrowed time, but it has worked for me so far. I also don't run my high beams unless I need them, as in if I'm out in the sticks they will be on. BTW, my charging system is completely stock. :unsure:


Out of curiosity, do your lights dim when you turn on your turn signals, brake light, or fan? If you had your highs on, all 6 filaments would be running?

Thanks for all the comments guys.
So it sounds like I won't have any issues beyond the normal wimpy wire issues of running 6 concurrent filaments.
Will keep you guys posted once we start the project.

[image: View Post]jmardy, on Jul 16 2009, 08:11 PM, said:

Hi all,
I'm helping out a friend and am looking into headlight modulators and had the idea that we could use the unused high beam filament as the headlight modulator and leave the rest of the system as-is.
I'm thinking of running a new fused power line from the battery to the modulator.
One of these:
https://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?...uct=P115W-H3-HD

Is this is easy as I think it is?
Any issues accessing that lug on the H4 base?

Thanks in advance.

Thats an interesting idea, its always annoyed the low beam bright circuit has no use

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You'd have all of the filaments on at once! In a system that already barely puts out enough power, I don't think this would be a good idea, unless your charging system was in top-shape or beefed up.
How about led conversions? You'll gain extra capacity overall from their minimal consumption.
You also might consider these since most of us (read: ME) know how they love to melt at the slightest sign of a loose/corroded connection..............
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h4 ceramic
Greg :fing02:

[image: View Post]jasonsmith, on 16 July 2009 - 08:24 PM, said:

This one..

https://www.kisantec...oduct=P115W-S-D

comes up when the VFR is selected and it's for the high beams. Looks plug and play as well. Thinking of getting one myself maybe.


**BUMP**

Jason,

Did you ever install the KISAN HM system ?

[image: View Post]Gerrys02800, on 14 March 2010 - 10:34 AM, said:

[image: View Post]jasonsmith, on 16 July 2009 - 08:24 PM, said:

This one..

https://www.kisantec...oduct=P115W-S-D

comes up when the VFR is selected and it's for the high beams. Looks plug and play as well. Thinking of getting one myself maybe.


**BUMP**

Jason,

Did you ever install the KISAN HM system ?


Nope didn't add it. I started to not like the idea of the lows flashing and don't like running with my high beams on as they suck a lot of power. I like the high beam circuit of the H4's though. Lately I've been thinking of adding a separate single light flasher to the front someplace out of way, similar to what some of the bicyclists are using nowadays but obviously not the same. I do find them annoying to look at though, I seem to target fixate on them too when I see them...

oh.. I will be switching to HID's here when my lows go so need to keep that in mind. Maybe that will free up some electrical juice.

[image: View Post]Lee 2002, on 17 July 2009 - 12:16 AM, said:

I use an older version of Signal Dynamics headlight modulator. I think it is exactly the same as the one they make now except mine will make my headlights flash when I beep the horn. (Even at night... which is illegal)
I have mine wired into the lower pair of bulbs. I am running FI*X*ER"S (actually my own variation) headlight mod. So my modulator will cause either the low or high filaments of the lower pair to pulse.
I am a huge fan of modulators... I can attest to the fact that they get attention. They are also great for causing traffic to part in front of you.... people must think I am a cop or something.


:+1:

I installed the SignalDynamics pn-1014 this weekend and can't believe I let these sit around for more than a year before I got around to using them.

The visability that headlight modulation gives you to traffic ahead of you is just unreal! Is it too much attention? The jury is out on that still. More riding, mental notations along with some video examples will follow.

On my normal Coastal S.F. to Monterey loop with stretches of Slab thrown in for meassure, the reaction to the modulation was stunning. People See you and are Aware that you are there.
I'm running oem lights, modulation on the low beams only (with the capability to turn the modulation off by switching the High's on and off again) I won't connect the horn feature unless I install a stebel type horn. If I need too.

Maintaining the normal 2-3 second distance buffer behind cars I noticed this, On two lane roads and slab, drivers either don't like the flashing in their mirror or they interpret the mod as "flash to pass" or they have a revelation "slower traffic keep right". Many moved over!!
Previously, I would just follow with the hope of common courtesy to strike the tunnel visioned gadget txting driver ahead. I'm not one to keep lane hopping unless it's really necessary.

On single PCH lanes more than just a few aware cool drivers moved to favor the far right side of the lane (some well over the fog line) in order for me to move along. I was just remarkable!

Like the product literature states, with more auto's daytime running lights becoming standard equipment, motorcyles are even less noticable. Glad to have this product up and running.. :beer:


An unrelated side note: How anyone can ride a motorcycle "at speed" without a Full Faceshield is just beyond me. I took a direct insect hit in the middle of the mask that I'm sure would have caused some problems at the rate I was traveling.. :ph34r:

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